02-12-2020 Current Kosher Issues

usually he'll the last Wednesday of the month right but this has been a tough month so this is a lot feels like the lace this is the post-primary okay yeah we wanted to save it until after the primary so it's not in the middle of the month we have to work it around the schedules everybody involved we want to thank you for joining us my guest today is Rob our buyer familiar to many of you and I'm rabbi speak kohlberg your host and we are we are live in Baltimore Maryland in our head offices we'd love if you could chat with us on the screen I see that Alba is joining us from from Spain right welcome Alba I'll be emailed us why wasn't there webinar last month so she's looking out for it okay if you want to call us if you're sound oh there we go stark a tech put it up if you want to call us you're following number two one eight eight nine five one two zero three and enter conference 2020 now and then pound and if you want to chat with us you can see on the bottom right of your screen there is a chat button so please join with us and let us know is anything you want to discuss we do have topics that probably could last us the entire time but we want to hear from you if there's something you want to talk about it's an open show we're happy to this line open we have an open line open line Wednesday okay so we're gonna start right in here let me just change something here this is a little too big okay with some news from people who like to fly especially to air to throw that United Airlines is starting to serve Starkey meals on their flights Terry to throw so for us it's a big deal start camest I think I'll eat something rather by this is RK is finally got on there the Merlin the meals they had were fine and certified reliably and but I think what United was trying to do was in terms of the quality of it they wanted they they looked up their game right yeah exactly right so I'll tell you I have some some pictures of the meals Oh started to put it put up our press release Thank You rabbi Chapman you can see the press release and actually I do have some with teachers oh yeah there are pictures already there people there are people who are red they're people who already have been on the fly have eaten them they're really being served so we have people we have pictures of people eating them no pictures of the meals Oh what they look like so I'm going to show you the pictures so one second where is that let me give you some okay so this is the this is the press release of the way it's supposed to Wow look at that but that's some business class are you flying in the middle of the Ring what is that thing this yeah I don't know I don't know either but it looks interesting okay and but I actually I looked around on the web to find to see what I could find about this issue and I found that Dan's deals that's a site for like okay so he actually got some pictures of somebody who actually was on the flights see over here now this is again I'm so happy that you get all that extra plastic that's so nice this is a business class meal and you can see over here on the bottom this is I guess breakfast for homemade cheese homemade cheese please always tell the kosher consumer on the plane because he's the guy who's surrounded by tons it fly away plastic and what have you so there you can see there's a star K also it has this list extra here is the tartakov basically the shellac shirt for those people that want that you can see on the bottom it says all cooked items are visually well of course because without visually swell with it wouldn't be a problem your problem but all baked goods are posses wrong they're all Posse so for those who wanna let me ask you the potentially embarrassing question which is is there Amazonas role included in the stark a meal I do not know I'm gonna see one but because you know that we have certain feelings about that right um as far as your chin which is very important to some people all the meals are yes I'm sure and they are not at all yo shin it's not correct I meant an in the in the figurative sense what do you mean that they're all home when you gotta explain the joke's on the show then you know suddenly here you want the coffee no they are the whole idea of these Frisco meals as you can see that's a stock you know is it's actually its abbreviation for fresh kosher I think so they're they're they're they're supposed to be fresher and tastier that yeah and as far as your chin goes but I mean the hollow concussion it's not necessarily awesome the reason for that is is that it's difficult you see they have have some sort of cake in here and other things it depends where they get it from that all of their sources are going to be yo shown and and it depends and if it is the ocean it will be marked ocean okay and this is only on United it's not only on United business-class know there's only on United from Newark right now and it's on on United even regular economy the P on class sardine class in the sardine class yeah I still get you can get this with this you don't have to say no it'll order of course you have the special rascal neon orange it's a kosher meal and you guys might be coming from Newark right are you gonna get at fresco mean we got the fresco meal this is you won't get this cut this exact no cuz this is all my cheese blintzes this is in the front if you're in the economy regular frozen cheese what's the catch so let's take a look at some of the other pictures here's this is supper I just want to point out you know the dark has been in the air you know a little bit of salt to we made such a big deal about this good Lamesa king nut which happens to be my account yeah has been serving providing proudly present dreadfuls and peanuts right for it died rice on airlines so I just wanted to make sure everyone knows that we have been up there right that's true but you know that that Southwest doesn't serve peanuts anymore I understand they still have those little pretzels they do I want to do this project with your ugly buyer always everytime I go all is the amount of pretzels and that one bag they give you is that amount to make a bracelet room it's very hard to tell I'm always masked me to ask for a second okay and you could be on say talking about you wanna know that's a shear of the this year right so actually here I think those things would actually be getting smaller and smaller as we go along but I want I want you have fewer pretzels we're actually doing studies in the office now door behind him I was here a few times already trying to refigure out how much how much a shear of mosses and you can see this is our in our in our conference room you see we have a really some some hand masses that we are that we are we are we are testing them to see how how big is the amount that you need to eat for say the night never behind them and did this 20 25 years ago they came out with a certain measurement which is in our book but now you know maybe the mass has changed sizes and so we want to redo it so we could do the same thing with the pretzels but yeah it has the pretzels to see how much you need to eat okay this is another example okay so DW is asking are those meals officially yourself are them too that is a very good question I don't know it's not a star s right could be not in other words if you go into a random restaurant that's kosher certified user star K or any other hash or in any other Ashkenazi have sure you cannot assume that is visually self aspiring which is a higher level you have Azmaria so I could I would not assume that over here either we do have we do have like you mentioned right I know that star yes I don't leave any star as restaurants though right list let's just take a look this is it this is the food open good it looks it looks it looks fairly good this this food looks pretty good then we have you can actually identify what it is that's also being able to identify one I mentioned to you if you look at this actually this is different than the previous meals these blintzes this is what United wanted United wanted them in plastic so you could actually see what's inside of it that's considered to them to be more as opposed to what's now comes in you can't see it uh oh I see there you can actually see through and see that there's actually food in there right that was it's like more appetizing it's more higher grit hundreds somehow it looks more and services like trying to open it and see what's in there and then do I want to eat it you can see just by looking from the outside so these are double seal because you need to have two seals when they put it into the oven right now when you put in the oven DW is saying I'm not sure who who that is but they're saying caramels which is a restaurant which is a restaurant a pizza store in Baltimore is probably okay for spire them and the Royal restaurant also okay I'm not I'm not I'm not familiar with that so we have to just live here well the starcade be expanding to other airlines as well okay so how do you answer if we can yeah if you're offering please call us offline and we'll be happy to sign up it's a good question III don't think that there are plans right now and and the way they people don't usually unnecessarily understand we don't go out and give the Heckscher to anything we don't we don't we don't solicit the companies they come to us they want to have sure they're working with fresco United United when out right alfresco went to them I don't know but it didn't really have to do it wasn't coming from us it was coming from I think the answer is probably this is unique I'm sure we would love to do other airlines if they want to get these beautiful meals it would be great another thing is that fresco already had a relationship with with airline meals at least passengers in in Newark oh because they had that the concession right they have that concession in running in the airport right where you can buy sandwiches ready-made same but not only Newark they have north of JFK LaGuardia right and you go to some of the SIBO see IBO stands and you can see you see meals actually look a lot like this package with that logo and the star K and those year let's kind of gave them an in I think so it another thing that I saw is that in in the in the lounge in Newark in the business lounge again so when you fly you would build to get this yes yes of course the head that they're having fresh hot meals I merely have now is just old tray fresh hot coach free meal fresh shot kosher meals yes what they have now is just rave now you pull it how do you pull that off how do they do that and probably with the same so when you heat up your own meal I don't know I don't know how it works I didn't hear anything about it but that's I'm sure they said you saw it I saw what in the lounge in the business lounge no I read about it that was only the impression that you were having waffles and you know so these are the the when they heat this up stomach this one if they ask this yeah or do they have a choice to do they break this you know they should not break it no it should not pray so I get them your back and the seal is broken does that present me with the question it does present you with a question the best thing to do is to have them because sometimes I'd like to do that I think because they're paid a thing is gonna blow up in the microwave it's a it's a it's a service that they might ask you do you want it open before this you don't know just serve it like this serve it to me with the plastic wrapped sealed and and that will be the way to do it let me see if I have any other pictures here I think that is basically okay so okay is there anything else to talk about about the about the United did we cover that pretty pretty well now it's only from from Newark that they're gonna get these meals if you go from is a new flight from dollarsdirect not stopping you now you these Eric says you still three days a week oh yes Sunday Wednesday and Friday Friday Friday night right but that's when they fine so anyway on those and those on those flights you will not get this neither from Sanford you she's gonna be on the Freddy much like any of those flights Sunday night Wednesday night you're not getting this but they say they're going to be upgrading their meals which I'm not sure with that you know what they're doing but that's what they say that's nice yeah so really it's really I think a good good move for it okay let's move on to the next topic which is you promised to talk about the quinoa bug update as we discussed last time with Rabbi Tendler that there is an issue with quinoa we're finding it infested with bugs little teeny bugs sorry what Kleist yeah look like that's what I meant so the kind of stuff you would find in a book right little tiny little creatures and it's it's it's a problem and we're the star K is really not true but we're doing a lot of research on it yeah we have it we have a team of people researching it and and we're you know checking quinoa from all over the country and trying to figure out you know where the sources we have quinoa companies we certify so even in what comes out of South America yes via Peru we talked to the companies there and we're not sure exactly why this is is is happening but it is happening someone when my friends asked me recently a colleague of the rabbi out somewhere and he said he heard this a problem with this star ke hold it I said star K is like pushing but this is a problem it is a real issue and I want to show a video what what we what you might see if you check it the way to check it is you take the quinoa put it through a sieve and and let so it's something that's that's small enough the holes are small off to hold back the kinwa but large enough to let the bugs go through so you shake it over a plate I think we had a we had a link to so I have a video I think we had a link to them to the appropriate official tagging George we might have done well you can get off there I just want to now show how it how they actually look so I'm going to show us here it's on the only way I can show this through YouTube and I know some of our some of our listeners I'm listen is have YouTube block so I'm sorry if you if you email us we will get you a link to it if you would like to but here goes oh I'm in there a little bit anymore than that I don't think so but it's a little tiny ones the the the idea is the big ones are the quinoa that went through a little bit of quinoa went through and there are dozens so that was that so yeah that's not part of the United the new United meals no just rest assured so those are those are those are the bugs and and and it's a real issue that we have simcoe's asking is this all companies the answer is all nine star K companies I wish we could say that it's it's all companies with a half year without a half-shirt we haven't really figured out welcome you know right it's the red quinoa the light came on a blue quinoa but mostly we're checking the white king we because others are not that popular I don't know if that's alright Emily if they check the other types but um well it's it's all companies and part of the issue with any of these dried dried vegetables dried grains grains is that you know even when if they pack it sits on the Shelf it doesn't have any bugs it could very well have microscopic eggs that you cannot see and would not be only the flower has as well to write it if you leave flour out long enough in them and moist then it could grow bugs and same thing with the kinwa no matter you know it could be 100% kosher when they packed it but it has a shelf life of a year or two years so we're recommending to get kidding well that has you know it's close to as packing as possible on the words that the the the best by date is far or is far off from the future that means it was packed recently and then but he sought to check it you still have to check it we do have one brand that we checked it at the packing and then we at the when they packed they brought it in from Bolivia we checked it when they packed it into big sacks and then we checked it again in New York when they packed it into the little into the little packet their own brain our own brains called natural earth it's certified for pacer and also it's at the time of the packing it was bug free so when you if you when you buy it you'd want to put it in the freezer right away because in the freezer has been in the grow but and then but you know we just took a delivery here this is where I the closer to pay stuff quinoa mm-hmm so we should put that right away and if we right away in the freezer right right that's nice because mine is sitting right now in my living room so we're out there last night when it came out right so you want to put that in the freezer when I get home okay right so basically you want to check hole they can wear to make sure you haven't got that now if you look at our website check for insects comm could you read that on the check for insects comm you'll see they're the guidelines that's our website that's we have that domain name for in seconds yes it's just a link that pushes you to the starcade that's why we purchased them that yes how many millions do have to pay for that it's not very popular no it was not a competition no it's just it's just a it's a guidepost it pushes you to those place on the star care website where we have our our list of our list of how to check and there we have the Cynwyd instructions we have the barley instructions we have the brown rice instructions and these are all issues that you should you should be aware of makes they want to go you know paleo or something kind of stay away from all this green stuff low-carb that's where it's that mm-hmm okay if you check one bag in the 30 pound case is the rest okay you mean you have one bag out of 30 you're gonna check I have thirty one out of I guess that's what they have I would want to check on that suits a lot it is I'm not sure it's one bag also the other bags could be different I my I would lean to say that's not not okay do your guidelines relate to book checking their to sell if not can you recommend another source no our guidelines only apply to the United States because that's what we're most familiar with and in Eretz Israel is usually worse so the bugs are more prevalent the the climate and other things affect that as we as we're discussing and it's worse can I recommend another source you would find this one of the Aegean Israeli probably use really you would go to the Israeli agencies to get their guidelines on that okay that's the quinoa let's move on if there any other questions about any other topic so feel free please to bring them up we are gonna move on to the cold remedies it is called me hold and all the flu season whose season and I buyer when was you officially may have mail I know this is the first this is about as close as rabbi Goldberg has gotten to me two weeks virtually we're like feet apart and he's got this like you know mask and because you're sure our listeners I cannot catch him yes I can't I can't ensure that my help okay yeah I just getting over one of these cold include businesses so Yaakov is asking is the what's up going around today that cut onions absorb bacteria the benefit is I can supposedly heal people from the flu fever or elder ailments the downside is that one should not leave a cut onion for pou long amount of time even a ziplock bag you mean illogically well uh okay now luckily you're not supposed to leave cut onions overnight that's only if you want to eat it whether you do this okay let me I'll try to do you know about this yes actually it's funny to crazy things that we've tried when your entire family has come down with one of these things then you try anything I'm not sure what this is talking about exactly but there is something going around about if you leave a cut onion alt yeah then it has some kind of power to absorb all the you know cooties or whatever it is in here and the bacteria so that it clears the air but you're not supposed to eat the onion afterwards Chuck the onion right now it's full of who knows what right so other words a lot of gas spective l know about the medical is that we don't leave cut onions out right overnight we don't eat them after you eat this wouldn't be a problem for that I don't believe so doesn't work yeah okay alright that anywhere garlic around your neck and you know vampires I'll sure ask there was a recent alert regarding bugs and Rice's that's still in effect yes yes it's still in effect and all that information is on that site that you appointed you to it's it's it's frustrating because we don't know why all of a sudden these these issues are coming up there was some discussion that in about the kick going back to the canoe again we found some information that there was one I told you I think it's global warming you think so yeah I think so okay it's not a political show no we ready to sow the channel so the quinoa there was a crop that was grown a large crop a few years ago 2016 right that was grown and it was not it was it was it with too many pesticides that they used and therefore it didn't pass the organic inspection okay so it was sent back whenever they tried to sell it they couldn't sell it because it wasn't passing so the rumor is that didn't have enough bugs no I forgot and I'm nothing to do with the bugs it had it had too many pesticides okay so the rumor was a day we're trying to sell it like little by little to mix it in with other kinwa and because it's really old at this point it's a few years old that's why the bugs were more prevalent it's fear see theory that there were no there is a fact that there was a large amount that couldn't be sold and it got mixed in there is that it seems to be true but whether or not that's the source of the modes or not we don't know because it's sitting around and the bugs grew in it we can't verify anything Jonathan is asking do the do the onions affect anything else that is an in in sealed package of chicken I'm not sure what that means if you could clarify what you mean I'm not sure with your question it unsealed an unsealed pack of chicken what do you mean I think you might be asking you if you leave out these onions yeah if you have an unsealed package of chicken out you mean in the same room same fridge something like that I guess and will that affect his chicken no it's only a problem to eat to eat these directly deities on you and not everybody holds of that issue of not leaving the onions and the garlic and the eggs overnight star K does but there are those who have never heard of it and because it's not potential color right on the other post-game so if you're not heard of it you know and that's your a minute we're not trying to push you to it but that these are our policy and that's illegal unseal the same fridge no problem okay so let's talk about the cold the cold remedies you have something you want to mention no I just wanted to to bring up the recommendations that the star K has for um for throat lozenger okay in particular I know that a lot of people like to use the Ricola brand and we did at one point do a lot of research into that and and when people call the office we do recommend certain flavors of Ricola unless you want me to know and then there's a call or email is right and there's there's another brand that we've looked into that usually have a hodgepodge Fisherman's Friend is another brand that good and Luden's also it doesn't know you know you want to actually glutens it hasn't go UD o UD and the D was always known just to be dairy equipment right even though I didn't say it on the label but it was not really know flicks you could eat it after meat but not with me because you probably well you wouldn't do it anyway right but now I believe I read that they're losing the D it's going to be totally parked that's okay well there's a cause for rejoicing your your Lubin's with your meat and then if you're really sick and nothing else is working so then we say there's no when you do the onion then you could do the onion yes and you can also take halls okay all right sorry labors of walls and super cold certainly was a super cold that's the ones that definitely numb your throat so those don't actually have arch gossip I drop my heavier in the office right on through the ingredients and even though normally we don't need things without the Heckscher for persons doesn't feel well you see right then we're more lenient for that right and I guess the the worry with with with throat lozenger it's would be that you actually eating it yeah it tastes like something right right bill says it CVS brand hasn't know you on there cough drops that's nice that's good to know that's a good way to save a little money josh says something that i want to comment on you can cover onions garlic or soak them in oil actually covering them is not is not sufficient from the point of view of Allah if you soaked in an oil that would be if you made some sort of mixture out of it like you say see the ads into it yeah it's something to ideas also salt water or you make it part of a salad that would be okay but just covering them doesn't doesn't work illogically Barbara says going back to the quinoa so we're got to keep up okay because organic farms use less pesticides now there are more bugs okay but not that's that's certainly a possibility in general that's in general true also used to be a custom to mix contaminated rice sweet kidding with non contaminated products of the farmer doesn't lose the whole crop and maybe that was the problem with this crop from 2016 is still sitting around and became became very buggy is there a list of acceptable cough drops on the website no we don't have that you would need to call me because or email us all right I didn't say our phone number yet oh 104 eight four four one one oh and always ask about my buyer that's my job yeah or you can email us at info at Starrcade org I'm happy to answer your questions the busy Passover season basic is coming up and that's really really good only February for the rest of the world it's only February right well corn is in a few weeks and the forum is basically for us basis already on the onions if part of the peel is on that's yes that's considered it's considered to be that's a that's acceptable it doesn't have the problem of leaving the onions overnight this part of the peel is on that's what you who did is asking now one thing I want to mention is cough medicine cough medicine often has glycerin in it and glycerin is something that came from drops for that matter what do not really some of them I didn't know that I haven't seen that okay but the cough medicine has liquid as far as I know has glycerin in it and that could potentially be non kosher so the way that we that we advise if it has glycerin is to nullify the glycerin in there and normally you're not allowed to nullify something that's potentially traif but for this because of a logic reasons we allow it that information is on our website and you can look at the reasoning behind it but we say that if you have a tea for liquid liquid coffee with medicine cold medicines right that mmm that have glycerin so take a teaspoon which is 5 milliliters and put that into two fluid ounces which is 60 milliliters so it's 1 in 12 and that is enough to nullify the glycerine that's in there and how is that enough because our studies show that the maximum amount of glycerin in the Coffman is one in five twenty percent so if that's one in five and you add one in 12 of water so that comes out to be 1 in 60 that's how you get to the one in 60 which is the amount that you need to nullify because we have two people are sitting there like okay now first you rebel yeah so it's just basically another time hey take a teaspoon of cough medicine in two fluid ounces of water and that's the way you would nullify it and it would be it would be considered okay to take okay we had a inquiry that came email someone wanted to know about the coffee and a couple of the hot drinks in quick check well when so this is nothing to do with the this is a new topic you topic okay fine perfectly fine house to do with the winter because it's like hi hot stuff in the winter okay that's why I thought it might be a phrase fair enough and quick check happens to be well-known in New Jersey you find a lot of those quick check is similar to 7-eleven you don't really have it here in Maryland what's the question well can you drink the coffee in quick Chek way or the cappuccino or okay it has an in in any of these kind of chain stores we have like the convenience stores they'll have like a row of various cappuccinos or hot cocoa or whatever and the question was can you can you drink those so I did a little research into that and it turns out that they the quick check it's all of franchises corporation they do use certified products for those three mmm now can't guarantee that that's what you'll have when you get the cappuccino but that is what you're getting but if you could you know prevail on the on the owner to allow you to show you the box to see the box then you could confirm it it should have an HK a symbol on it which is reliable have sure and you can you can then even you could use that okay fair enough okay um Josh wants to know can you address this stark change is buck checking it seems people are much stricter today than when I was growing up is that due to a change in the mid seus meaning that there are more bugs or is it just better education that is a very good question I think a lot of it has to do with what was mentioned before that they were using less pesticides now so the pest is only that's the main main reason right yeah right the pesticides really kept away the bugs and now you're not using them because of health reasons it's it's right it's a problem they're going back let's say 500 years you know in time you know they were shown him many vegetables in Europe yeah right they probably didn't maybe they ate a lot of cabbage that's really about it okay so I'm sure that they knew how to check and they had their own okay I didn't have the white boxes but I checked it for a book as a matter of fact the cost my saw them right Danzig who lived in something some 1700 so he says it you should look at everything before you eat it even if it's something that doesn't really need to be checked you should take a glance at it right so you know they were always they were always checking for for bugs okay on the Suzy s on the subject of glycerin please discuss toothpaste can any toothpaste be used okay because that that's the question has glycerin toothpaste often has glycerin okay I use the toothpaste without glycerin I use aim aim doesn't have any glycerin so why using that's why I using cheap receivers oh you're a holy day alright it's also cheap it's cheapest I use ultra-bright does it have much relevance oh okay well I have to check I use it because it's cheaper so remaining the means opinion is that it's not a food toothpaste out of food and I trying to eat it you spit it out it's it's that if it has glycerin and it is okay but he holds it's better to get something either with a sure which is not that comment or I guess ad we or to use something without glycerin and also there's another type ml Luca has also under under our house oh really I look at has some toothpaste I look there's a is a with the multi-level and if the battle on their website or from your local Melaleuca dealer that there are many from ones in New Jersey especially okay you know you employ in New York yeah might as well and they that's a star K approved okay mister if you want to avoid the glycerin you go with the Melaleuca or well they have legitimate it's cultured Liz right with you with the ad we or or you can get one without listener in like mentioning the aim or other other types and we can use Colgate and rest assure that you don't it's long can you'll eat it and then you should be it's okay Oaxaca CLE there are other things also in toothpaste you might want to look out for polysorbate polysorbate can you write that polysorbate would also be a problem sometimes and you wanted you would want to avoid those because it also could be non kosher tom's of Maine is under - gossip do you say that also would be would be fine they also we also you often get the question about the the the white strips the whitening strips yeah we get that it's the same thing as it to the breath strips oh there's like Listerine and used to have a hot chocolate those are not the same the the breath strips that you're actually you're eating them they need how much in the whitening strips what happens with them okay never use them yeah so the breath strips you're trying to get that flavor into your mouth and you swallow you're supposed to swallow it it's part of the part of the way of eating it that needs a stroke on it they have a huff cake right mmm the Listerine breast strips so needed to have a chef kostow still has that it's still frozen oh yeah the the whitening strips they are like a toothpaste you're not trying to eat them you know interested in anyone's you spit it out if you could that's how it works I've never use them you know you put on your teeth and it sort of dissolves but you're not trying to eat it and there are behind them in holes that there was also the same like toothpaste it's better to get something without the glycerin and polysorbate which is not so easy not to find but they do exist but if you wanted use the ones with the glycerin it would be acceptable okay so I think we're coming to the end of our showroom I bought it because I don't know how many material no I don't know how much people can listen to it we get tired okay so we have a few more questions here let's try to take some of these some of these let's go back over here let's see if we don't get to your question now you more than welcome to email us and in floyd star - k dot org will give us a ring for 104 eight four four one one Oh yokka wants to know why check is different from Starbucks or 7-eleven that's your forte yeah because they paid us a lot of money to say that no just kidding right just kidding we don't think you are because god forbid no um it's different because the Starbucks issue is more complicated because the drinks that are that that we at one time recommended at Starbucks are come from four sources that we don't know whether they're kosher or not quick check happens to have provided us with information so we happen to know that these things are kosher alright are you worried about the coffee container is it the same problem with being washed with yes I'm not commenting really on all the coffee per se the coffee by itself it could theoretically be the same problem if you're if they're under no eating habit and they're cleaning the coffee equipment together with the non kosher equipment that's used in the quick check that would be the same problem that you have in Starbucks or any number of convenience store isn't we which one say you should only drink their coffee on the road correct I was just mentioning because someone has this local quick check and they asked about it so this I mean I don't that machinery gets washed with anything I think it stays in place if it did so then he right it would be the same it would be the same as here so if it stays in place and it doesn't have the problem correct so we have to believe in if you're on the room which is by the way what how we found it in 7-eleven here locally in Baltimore that their coffee equipment is cleaned in place it doesn't get put together with anything else that's used in the store memory says don't eat any leafy greens wow what do you do on Pesach ok tom's of Maine is it ok for pacer I don't know but I have not seen that on a list of acceptable for basis we'd have to check though you guide can you please comment on the status of organic ocean nori which usually has a star K when found at Whole Foods and the longest that carries with it the star K they have the star K it is a temporary is it a temporary loss of kashrut status or more permanent loss of kashrut cells I can't comment on that particular brand but I can tell you that we changed our policy and we were only doing nori with a messiah present at the time and checking the the the nori to make sure that doesn't have any sea creatures so that is likely the reason why they doesn't have a star K anymore and there are brands out there that do have a star K those brands are the ones that we have we've been there we're checking so we had a mass get there at the time of the Dory a little factoring right or we checked out the process and they send the samples we're doing more much more than we used to allow let's see craft food products users uses gelatin from bones on the webpage they say it is refined to the point that he cannot be distinguished from gelatin produced in a laboratory I'm not so convinced Alba is asking so that's own chart he's talking about no it's not it's not charge its gelatin it's just refined so usually that would come from pigs and so unless they charge less they I think you're talking about the you know char thing tonight using the sugar and that's not what she's doing when she's talking about about gelatin that you would actually literally like in jello or something yeah our yogurt something like that no so that since the source is since the source is non-kosher as a source of pigs animal bones aren't kosher we can't accept it we only gelatin would be kosher would be from kosher animals so the fact that they refined it does not help us I'll crush your animals that have in processed entourage Gaza right push I'm with my man chested right and so on okay is it okay to drink coffee brewed on an airplane so we would say it is because you're on your traveling and you don't need to be concerned about the washing of the correct of the behind a man has told us many times mm-hmm I'll be saying that gelatin is in cream cheese right so we would not agree with not accept that that cream cheese with the gelatin okay that's the end of our our comments I want to thank you everyone for joining us and thank Robert Chapman and miss Rosa seam for helping us here get all the technical details working Thank You of your buyer hey Liz comments I want to wish you a flame oh thank you everyone I want to be healthy you know main I mean healthy wealthy and wise oh thank you and join us next time which would be the last Wednesday have a smut which is in fact in two short weeks you know a lotta meat right before porn yeah the poor magician and we have the Passover edition that's usually very well look forward to we have we bring all the products we tell you what's new for 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