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I'm going to be careful how I say this
because I don't want to say identifying
details. I can think right now of three
situations I saw firsthand in the past
year where you had an entrepreneur who
had
really unnecessary employees and
couldn't cut them.
And it was not, you know, you could say,
"Oh, he has a heart of gold. He's just,
you know, cuz sometimes that's, you
know, you know, Bill's been with the
company for so long, even though he does
nothing, he doesn't know how to use a
computer, we just keep paying him. Okay,
that's kind of sweet. But in a lot of
situations I've seen, there's a
codependent relationship. I'll use that
word and I'll define it in a moment.
Like a codependent relationship between
employer, employee.
Codependent relationship is where a
person becomes addicted to the
relationship where they're they're
addicted to the approval uh that they're
getting from the other person.
A lot of
entrepreneurs actually end up being in
these weird situations
where they're using
payroll
as a way of having a relationship
and they have this deep need to have the
relationship so they can't get rid of
it.
>> Might be cheaper than therapy.
[laughter]
So if you put it on paper and it
actually ends up cheaper than the
therapy, okay, fine. So continue, right?
But no, but I'm just thinking the
therapy will get you eventually you'll
be able to stop. So in the long run, the
therapy will be cheaper. And I've seen
that a lot where people have a
codependent relationship with an
employee or a codep codependent
relationship with a business partner
where it's not really practically
serving any purpose. It's
sort of a a a
very twisted sort of emotional payoff
where there's like this this need for
validation.
Which is why, by the way,
if your way of making money forces you
to deal with a lot of people,
you have to have a very clear sense of
who you are.
Because
people will,
and especially unscrupulous people who
are good at this, they will zero in on
that vulnerability, that insecurity,
and they will flatter you and make you
feel good. And that's it's very
addicting. And I've seen it. I've seen
it where people are paying crazy money.
They justify it. They they it looks like
a normal business expense, but it's not
a normal business expense. They're
literally paying for validation.
>> It's crazy. Seen it so many times.
>> Also, people who have a lot of money and
attract a certain friend group, similar
transactional relationship in that
they're exchanging money for that
validation.
>> Right. So then that's when they're
getting hit at work and in their social
life.
>> Yeah. And it's very expensive to
maintain all those toxic relationships.
>> What goes through their head when it the
head hits the pillow. [clears throat]
>> Like like I was saying before, I'm
lonely. I don't have any real friends.
Everyone's just using me. It's a very
lonely existence.
>> Sounds miserable.
>> Yeah. Yeah. But if a person doesn't know
how to get real connection, they'll do
it. They'll just keep doing it over and
over again. The healthiest
people who I know who are very wealthy
are people who don't have that
codependent need.
They
>> is that self-confidence or is it more
than that or different?
>> It's related to self-confidence.
It's very close to self-confidence.
Self-confidence is like the ability to
believe in yourself and go and
accomplish something and go do it.
I would refer to this more as
>> self-esteem.
>> Yeah, self-esteem. Meaning, I know my
value and therefore I don't need you to
tell me I'm a good guy.
Now,
the people that I know who have that
in the strongest sense are all people of
faith.
Mostly I'm thinking of Jewish people
because majority of people I interact
with are in the Jewish community. But I
can certainly think of several examples
of people who are not Jewish but they're
also people of faith like very strong
faith and from their faith they get
their sense of worth meaning to say they
believe in God. They believe they were
created by God and then they believe
believe in themselves as a creation of
God. And that identity of I am God's
creation gives them that sense of
inherent selfworth.
And then they're not vulnerable to
trying to get a false sense of worth
from from human beings. And those are
the people who can have a very healthy
relationship, business or social,
where they don't end up paying through
the nose for fair weather friends.
And so much of American, at least
American culture is trying to give you
an identity, right? Have this phone,
wear this coat,
go to this place,
right?
>> Say these things.
that is the result of
an absence
of an essential
identity.
Meaning all of these things are
conditional. If my identity comes from
the fact that I have a certain
possession, I could lose the possession.
My identity comes from the fact that I
live in a certain neighborhood. I I
could move. I could be forced to move.
Essential identity means something that
cannot change. It's unconditional.
So if my value is based on the fact I'm
God's creation, well I I'll always be
God's creation. That doesn't change.
That's essential identity. And the
people who are impervious to all the
vicissitudes of life and don't get roped
into all the toxic relationships, those
are the people whose identity is based
on that which does not change. I am the
Lord. I have not changed.
Their their identity is based on God.
And so th those are the people who are
the most emotionally healthy,
emotionally