Text-Based Tanya—Week #75

all right text-based Tanya in the middle of chapter 42. we're speaking about how to cultivate the feeling of oh and how do we cultivate the feeling of Art and for that matter how do we cultivate any feeling meditation and what we were speaking about at the end of last week actually was two weeks ago because then we had a break last week we were speaking about thinking about hashem's omniscience the eye that sees the ear that hears and although those are anthropomorphic metaphors and Hashem has no bodily likeness nevertheless to the contrary the fact that he has nobody likeness does not make the metaphor less powerful it makes it more powerful because he's not limited like a physical eye or a physical ear and we're meditating on hashem's omniscience in order again to instill a feeling of awe within us okay yeah every single Jew no matter who he is or who she is if I'll think about this for a good amount of time every day so you see right here this is not a one-time thing you see also that it's not a reactive thing that you do because all of a sudden you feel like oh I need some gyro I need some awe no it's a regimen it's a discipline it becomes part of your life so if you think about this for a good amount of time every day you're thinking about just to summarize how Hashem fills the higher and lower worlds he is omnipresent versus he fills the heavens and the Earth are literally full of his glory and nevertheless simultaneously as he's filling everything he's staring and scrutinizing your innards your insides meaning your emotional state he's reading your mind and he's monitoring your actions and your speech the whole and all of your steps are enumerated or he's counting meaning he's keeping track he knows when you've been sleeping he knows when you're awake why is everyone laughing just it's what it's what yeah okay all right azai so then if you will think about this if you will think about hashem's omniscience and how although he's everywhere an omniscient he knows everything and he is everywhere and nevertheless he's focusing on you as I then that will set up in your heart awe for the whole day for the whole day so you do a little yira meditation and you set yourself up for the whole day because she asks if he is when you go back and do even a light meditation because he's been Scala kala with a koof not kala like a bride kala meaning light like a a light little meditation you understand what he's describing so you do the more focused intense meditation at the beginning of the day that's how you start yourself off before you go out into the world and then later in the day when you need to summon it up again you need to freshen it up so then you can even do it he's been with Scala his collar means just be conscious of it and you'll reinstate that feeling that came from the more intense focused version that you did earlier in the day at any time in thought speech and action s so that you should not Rebel before Hashem who fills all the Earth told his students as we mentioned earlier the story where he said to them yeah I wish that you should be as afraid of Hashem as you are of people and they're like what shouldn't you be more afraid of Hashem than people and he says apparently not because you see Hashem is always watching and people sin but people have inhibition they have social inhibition when they think other human beings are watching so I wish you would have as much self-awareness in front of Hashem as you would as generally people do have in front of in front of people at any rate the point is let me just ask you a question reality check what's the point of this year how how is it meant to be expressed Mitzvahs very good just want to make sure um the bottom line like what's it for what are you going to do with your year once you have your Euro well you're going to use it to guide your behaviors so just want to make sure everyone understands this is not spirituality for the sake of spirituality we're not here to get high on the spiritual ideas this is to bolster our Mitzvah observance why do we care about Mitchell observance Hashem told us yeah and why do we care what Hashem told us we've now that's circular logic because we love inferioration so we love and fear Hashem so therefore we do what he told us and why do we care what he told us because we love and fear Him that's that's why we're here I mean that's our mission like we said in chapter 30. 3 yeah yeah so that's our purpose yeah of course well that's what it comes down to so I'm gonna that's fine but I'm going to tell you in the world view of Tanya especially in the manner in which we have inherited it meaning the altareba's descendant was not only responsible for proliferating the outfit I was teachings in the world but also for interpreting them so when we speak about Tanya in this day and age the Messiah that we have is the way that Eva presented it to us and there's no question that the main emphasis on Tanya's worldview when you get to the philosophical question of what's it all about why why does it matter the answer is Mission that's it it's not personal fulfillment it's not reward not even meaning it's it's mission I'm not sure that you do I'm not sure that you do in fact I would like to steer you away from what you think might be better motivators and encourage you the mission is going to ultimately be the best motivator I was yesterday I was in Baltimore and you saw a coffee shop it was a makeup for two weeks ago when my plane got diverted to Pittsburgh which we discussed in this very class and by the way the reason was because they're short on air traffic controllers yes that's what I heard yes okay we're on a mission to stay focused yes so at any rate last night what did I speak about I spoke about the fact that the the original lecture was supposed to be in honor of gimmel Thomas it was two weeks ago that I was your side but then it ended up being pushed off into the three weeks so then I said well actually it must be that this is even better and it's all part of the plan and then I explained you know three weeks is destruction but really destruction is part of the plan it's not the structure for the sake of Destruction there's a there's a process you got to go through the process and I said sometimes you get diverted and you're plane lands in Pittsburgh instead of in Baltimore but that's all part of the plan and here we are it's two weeks later and you know this is this is the way it's meant to be so anyways but that's not what I want to tell you before I went on I was discussing with a few people who had taken my parenting course uh uh I forget how it came up even but the question of like the parenting course being basically working on yourself which is the bait and switch I don't reveal it here in the Tanya ship but basically if you take my parenting course the first class you learned that it's really bait and switch it's not about getting your kids to eat their broccoli it's about doing the work that you need to do and parenting is the motivation so anyways I was speaking about this with someone in Baltimore last night I said you know we all know that we need to become better we need to improve but sometimes we need motivation it's interesting for ourselves who won't do it but for our kids we'll do it so that's the same thing I'm telling you is that mission is the ultimate motivator for personal fulfillment trust me I'm not going to do any of this even if you'll tell me it'll make me so awesome all right you know what I I have a little bit of a lazy streak and a even maybe a penchant for self-punishment I might even purposely choose not to improve myself just for some perverted reasons but if you tell me that it's required for the mission it's kind of hard to talk myself out of it and I kind of have to do it so the end of the day like what's all this about why am I trying to have enough awe to get me to observe hashem's Mitzvahs like why should I care you know why you should care because it's you're you're drafted so at this point it's not really about if you see any value in it apparently someone else sees value in it you know that I don't want to get like off the topic too much but you know the the famous story about there was a fabrang in 770 the rebel was speaking about how somebody hasid was on a radio show and you know today would be a podcast so he said he was honored he was a guest on a podcast and the host asked him how come in Torah they could put somebody to death for doing things that don't really disrupt Society like a person's a murderer I understand but like the president worships Idols or Violet Shabbos like whose business is that but your own so the Reba said that this guest this closet who was a guest on this podcast I'm going to call it a podcast it was really a radio show but he said well you know it was very rare it was very rare and talmud says it was only once in seven years the capital punishment was actually muted out some say it was only once in 70 years and you need to have Adam and hasra that means you have to have witnesses and you have to warn the person so it was so rare there's so many different uh preconditions that have to be met it rarely ever happened so the Deva said he answered okay you know it's it's an okay answer but really he could have had such a stronger answer and he could his answer could have been based on current events that haven't mentioned that that week there was a manned space flight so that I was said imagine a guy is trained by his government to go on a space flight and uh they put all this money and time into training him and he gets up there and he has a couple minutes break and he decides he wants to light up a cigarette now this is back in the days when everybody smoked on planes right so remember those days yeah this was in the 60s yeah so I'm smoking restaurants yeah the smoked everywhere yeah so the hospitals yeah yes yes absolutely let's really get off the topic let's name all the places where people used to smoke and they used this okay so at any rate so that episode imagine a guy in the space mission he all of a sudden wants to whip out a cigarette and he wants to start smoking now it's not safe he can't do that up there you can't do that up there so uh and he's going to say to you what do you care I'm on my break that's like my personal no you're not on a break you're on a manned space mission and you are constantly on duty even when you're not on duty and all the money and time that was invested into this mission is riding on you so that ever said instead of the guy answering well yeah Toyota does intrude on people's personal lives but very rarely that I've said the guy should have said that there is no personal life what are you talking about we're on a mission and everything has to be done in accordance with the accomplishing of that of that mission so that's what we come back to everybody in order to keep us unified because if I do what I want and somebody else does what they want what we're doing is yeah yeah that's another way to put it yeah the other thing say is the mission should be like you say every day in um please Hashem keep me from Allah for futility we here not to have a futile life but again the question is why are we not here to have a futile life it's a famous question of like namad of Shame right like Hashem doesn't want us to have bread of Shame so he makes us work okay so why does he make us work oh because we'd be ashamed if we would get a free handout okay so he made our psychology he could make us not have that nature okay did I've asked that question and he said that of course Hashem could have given us a nature that we wouldn't be ashamed of getting a handout but then we wouldn't be productive and wouldn't partner with him and ultimately our purpose is to be one with him to be like him and to be like him means to be creative like him so the purpose of life is to be productive and to be a creator [Music] correct and that attitude as we spoke about I think last time has been did we no actually we didn't I spoke about this in LA uh I was thinking of I was in Pico Roberts in the Shabbos before last and we were talking about how um we're talking about spiritual materialism that basically people took selfishness and they imported it into even into Jewish mysticism how they make they make they turn say this itself into us to a self-help program that's what it's ultimately all about my perfection and the question is well why like it's your favorite question it's my favorite question too why why is okay self-improvement no problem that's the what but tell me the why why are you engaged in self-improvement why is it valuable and you can't just tell me because it's meaningful to you so ultimately the answer is because I'm on a mission and for the sake of the mission I have to be my my best self and it's not my mission is enough because that's just mission mission is cerebral and it's Behavior so why are we talking about emotions like love okay asking a fantastic question let me just repeat it for those people online who can't hear it you said if it's all about Mission then banani is enough meaning behavioral Perfection is enough why are we focusing now on emotions and I'm going to throw it back at you and I'm going to say we just read this he just said and what are you going to do with that all once you cultivate it you're going to turn it into the motivation to do the behaviors so we're not talking about emotional refinement for its own sake ultimately it's got to get cashed in specifically as the motivation for behaviors in theory if somebody could do the behaviors without the emotions yeah maybe that's acceptable however what we're saying is that's not really tenable yeah that's part of it Shaquille O'Neal said that I started winning rings when I stopped looking at my stats when he stopped looking at his own performance then the team started winning yeah okay let's continue here you know we need to do we did this a long time ago we haven't done it in a long time we had like a um like a trollent day where we could talk about anything you wanted we need to do that again sometime you'll bring the oh actual trouble okay now we're gonna answer the question that we started with in chapter in the beginning of chapter 42 I mean we answered it already but it's going to re-answer it and this is what the verse means what does Hashem ask for you from you remember the beginning of the verse what is I mean with the beginning of the chapter what is you I'm asking for you except to fear Him and to walk in his ways now he reads the rest of the verse we didn't read the rest at the beginning of the chapter we mentioned only the part of the verse that the gamada examines where it says what does Hashem want from you nothing just to fear him it's okay not no biggie and then the gamada asks what do you mean no biggie it is a biggie and then it says well for my should be no it's no biggie and my sharabane is the one Speaking here remember that from the beginning of the chapter we're like okay fine motion is the one speaking but who's he speaking to he's speaking to the regular people so uh how is that even an answer so the altitude is not just the one who's speaking he's the one being spoken to what are you talking about are you speaking to the Jewish people yeah but he's speaking to them I should obey no that's in each one of us and that if you'll access your informational opinion remember what your information about us in the beginning of chapter 42 your Das your ability to focus toiling what toil yeah well you need the toil in order to access the dust very good okay the point is they're not good enough to sit in a class and listen to somebody talking you have to sweat you have to work hard to understand these ideas and to integrate them to apply them to personalize them that's Das and how do you do it your innermost should obey them you have to take the information it can't just be you're listening to somebody else talk it can't be read it in a book that might be the beginning of the process but you need to take the ideas and work with them and make it real personal experiential knowledge okay so that's the Das and that's the intermation of anal that verse that we began the chapter with continues what does Hashem ask from you nothing no big deal except to fear Hashem and to go in all of his ways so basically the verse is spelling out what are you going to do with that yira with that all once you have it you're going to go in all of his ways the point of the euro is to serve as the motivation for practical Mitzvah observance sorry to bore you practical Mitzvah observance this is the yira that brings to the Fulfillment of his Mitzvahs whether in going away from evil or doing good this is the lower level of yida that we spoke about before in other words we're not even talking about high levels of of yira yeah we will talk about those and and it's a nice aspiration to have but right now we're speaking about the lower level of Judah which means enough yira to get you to do what you're supposed to do and to not do what you're not supposed to do it yes yeah okay you know yeah if you parented what way first of all it doesn't say just to have you know right now we're speaking about you at other times we'll speak about Alpha and you know from the previous chapter from pedigmamala from chapter 41 you already explained you can't serve Hashem with just love but you can't serve Hashem with just oh so that's first of all secondly is not a toxic um it's it's not this uh it's all all does not mean that somebody is afraid that somebody else is going to abuse their power over them and hurt them that's not what all means it means respect it means reverence it means you know that our people that you would not swear in front of I don't know you you ladies are so able you probably don't swear but there are people you don't swear in front of why because you think they're going to slap you if you do right now you know they're not going to be upset they're not here so that's all it means I mean it means more than that as well but I'm saying it's not this toxic thing what do you guys discussing which swears you say when you don't respect people yeah you wouldn't say it in front of me so funny you're watching your language in front of me I'm watching my language in front of you and really the YouTube people are benefiting because of the YouTube audience Yeah well yeah tours are in a very like harsh you know punishment yeah you want to have that discussion okay fine I don't want to have a long discussion about this but you're talking about the the punishments in Toyota right yes yes so I said do you want to have this discussion fine okay so I don't want to have it because it's derailing it but I can do it in 30 seconds and let's do it in 30 seconds okay yes God willing yeah no it's not parenting marriage okay let's let's do this quickly I don't want to have this stump the rabbi conversation there's a classic High School stump the rabbi question about okay I'll do this in 30 seconds okay let's do it in 30 seconds okay all right all right how to reconcile that's the question if you have a doctor who tells you dude you cannot continue the way that you're continuing you're going to have a heart attack so would you say this guy is a fear monger I'm I'm just asking this question but I want to do the 30 second version so I need you to be docile and go along with me okay listen all right the doctor tells you I looked at your Labs it's not cool you cannot continue doing this you are a candidate for a heart attack so this guy he's a fear Monger he's a he's he's toxic he's manipulative okay so here's my okay so you agree that that's okay for him to speak that way I mean hopefully he has some bedside Manner and before he pops that on you he's shakes your hand how are you doing how's the wife and kids okay hopeful okay so then I just have one question for you and I'm not even gonna answer it I'm going to allow you to answer it yourself do you believe that in theory it is possible to flout God's law and that that would in theory lead to a healthy life accept the fact that Hashem artificially imposes a system of reward and Punishment or do you believe you follow what I'm saying or do you believe that that which is moral and right and good also is conducive to practical benefits that's my question to you or the negative or the negative yeah or the negative yeah you don't lose weight you're going to have a heart attack yeah right all consequences you're not going to listen and the rain's not going to fall and your crops aren't going to grow and your children are going to starve yeah but I'm asking now when I was taking 60 seconds so I'm asking you a question do you believe that in theory life could be just fine if we do whatever we want is just Hashem decided that he's going to zap us for not doing what he wants or do you believe that when you do that which is spiritually healthy it's also practically going to work out and I don't like to speak negative but that's what what we're discussing right now if you flout those rules and you don't do it spiritually healthy it's gonna hurt everybody hold on hold on hold on hold on don't go don't complicate it you take me to expert ones you take me to expert level I don't need extra hold on let's just let's just resolve let's just resolve this that's just resolved don't don't complicate I didn't even want to talk about this okay so that's let's clarify this why why are there punishments because why are there punishments and why is Hashem transparent about those punishments and why does he say it in a very blunt way especially in Terrace um because okay and you don't say get back in then now we're going to go into the discussion if we should punch them the point is bottom line it is not possible we learned this back in chapter seven remember chapter seven remember we talked about Asana very good but I don't know what it means you just remember the metaphor you didn't use your internal money should have been integrate it I bet you do remember I'm gonna prompt you to remember it it's in your notes in chapters it's in the notes okay in chat remember in chapter seven we spoke about it's not good for us like the Pig and the ham sandwich oh so you do remember it okay okay yeah that's right okay so the question that we discussed back then are things things that the word USA means tied down it means it can't be elevated so you go to a cheap hotel and they tie everything down the lamp is bolted to the table because they're afraid you're going to steal the lamp so the question is is it tied down because it's forbidden or is it forbidden because it's tied down real question and you weren't here for chapter seven so you get to actually think about this is it tied down because it's forbidden or is it forbidden because it's tied down in other words is the designation of permissible and forbidden a Divine Convention of sorts it's arbitrary and then once it is deemed to be off limits then to prevent you from transgressing Hashem ties those things down or is it intrinsically tied down meaning it does not have energy which is compatible with you there's no elevation that can come to it through you and therefore as a favor to you Hashem says that's off limits imagine if I said that to myself or my people like it's just not good for you it's not good for you it's useless and you spoke about a life of futility okay there's utility and futility so if it's Mission driven everything has to be utility so why would you waste your time with something that can't benefit from your interaction with it so to answer the question because feel like we're benefiting instantly okay okay so now you've pinpointed precisely what makes it difficult there is such a thing people get very uptight when I say this as the benefit of a sin I didn't make it up because I'll speak about it they say scar Mitzvah mitzvah Aveda there is such a thing as a scar Aveda um what we feel well spiritually avedas aren't very beneficial right but there is a scar of ADA and what's the scar of ADA yeah I don't have to sit here and give you a class about how avedas feel good right I wish that we needed a class I wish that we didn't know why avedas are are gishmach but we all know they're gishmach and that's what makes it difficult because there is a perceived benefit okay fine now you're asking the right question because many people now you're asking the right questions because many people what they do is they say how do we make the pleasure of the sin pale in comparison to the pleasure of the Mitzvah that's the wrong question and that's what most people do they say how do we make gun Aiden more attractive Than Physical pleasure that's not the that's not the way the way is how do we make the mission more real to you than the pleasure of doing what you want to do yes yes okay so now you're getting it but anyways I want to close the thread about why does the Toyota speak in harsh ways and speak about negative things repercussions that are going to ensue from from doing things that Hashem told you not to do it's not that you would have had a fine life if God had just left us alone and he just decided to come in and be a Martin act and a tyrant and make a bunch of rules and then punish us for not following those rules that's not what it is there is a system in the world and it's going to hurt if you don't follow that system so is it shocking sometimes when the doctor says you're a candidate for a heart attack yeah it is it is shocking is it shocking sometimes when it says in Toyota if you're not going to listen to me what do you expect to happen you think this is going to work in the long term you don't think this is going to be a drought and you're going to starve you can't flout the rules and expect things to work it just that's not how it's set up so that's to answer the question Hashem is not trying to find disincentives that are scary and painful enough to make us do what he wants us to do that's not what's happening Hashem is telling us clearly this is the system here's how it works it's not going to go well for you not because I'm vengeful and I'm cruel it feels vengeful yes and sometimes we describe hashem's motives in ways that we subjectively understand like you asked is Hashem really angry well it feels like Anger from our perspective okay that's our subjective experience of it but the reality of it is this is divine cause and effect this is how it works in the spiritual world and it devolves into the material world there is no such thing as something that could work in the material world but it doesn't work in the spiritual world there's no such thing if it doesn't work in the spiritual World it won't work in the material world it may give you a short-term benefit but it will not it will not be sustainable so ultimately all of the Mitzvahs are not just for our spiritual benefit oh you'll have a nice guy Aiden no the mitzers are for our material benefit as well because it's all one reality the spiritual the material it's all one thing does that answer the question that took a lot longer than 30 seconds I wanted but did we resolve did we resolve the the issue so how would a doctor make the labs more palatable yeah that's why I gave the muscle of the Doctor Who says you're going to get a heart attack because it's like whoa why are you speaking to me that way what are you trying to do give me a heart attack yes yes because because homish is the doctor comes in and says do it I looked at your Labs you are candidate for a heart attack that's Commish say this is later on you see your doctor in shul and he's how you doing how's how's the wife and kids and now he's being all friend well hold on a second I was in your office six hours ago and you're scaring me while you're frosting on all the kids yeah then you stop pressing on the kitchen because see your doctor like you know what you see you see I took cantaloupe you're not cursing in front of him it's a yeah yeah it's true it is a different way of speaking that's over here it's a different way of speaking it's one Hashem and it's one message it's the same God it's the same message the same reality but there are different contexts different I wouldn't tell somebody that if you really want to understand your personal relationship with Hashem you should learn how much all day I would say you should learn Hamish every year you should do ritas every day you'll finish the whole hummus every year but if you want to really understand Hashem as far as your personal relationship but say you should learn see this doesn't mean that one is true and one God forbid and the other one's not true or even that one was true and now God forbid it's outmoded they're all true question is context okay can we can we continue a little bit more okay let's continue a very important question what was our very important question a mission more attractive than the pleasure of this thing I don't think it's a complicated answer I think it's a very simple answer it's just basically talking about it I I don't think people generally even have that as an option I don't even think it's offered I think generally in the total observant world it's not even part of the of of the discourse in other words they acknowledge that there are the pleasures of this world then they tell you they're the pleasures of the world to come and they try to convince you to forego the pleasures of this world in order to have greater Pleasures in the next world see this is going to come and say to you it's really and not that that's untrue not the you know the missiles you shot him stuff is untrue it is all true it's just not our motivation it's not our motivation so our motivation is to make the world a better place for everybody not just for me you know since we're so derailed yeah it even more you can derail it even more okay [Music] we'll see people who are upstanding people but you wouldn't even know that they were Jewish in this environment because they're on vacation the section everything if I'm already gonna not do one thing then I'm just going to not do everything so because it isn't so much about valuing the process and obviously valuing our connection and the misfun I think they know that's like what rabbits have said The more we talk about it the more we discuss it the more we learn to this the more we're conscious when we walk outside of the beauty that Hashem created and every single thing is being created and we think about our love or our all of Hashem it definitely changed I mean it changed me since coming to these classes I've learned something this my whole life it changes the way we operate even if it's not all the time right but when we say the mission is to make us tone and then whatever else how do we make that something that we want to do how do you make yourself care about it you talk about it learn about it there's so many things that you are doing to make a deal of the tough Dynamic I'm really thinking more of someone who's struggling or maybe like teens or children or like or women who are really struggling with Yiddish kite and and the pleasures or the sins of this world so here's the thing you're describing somebody who and this is not uncommon in our day and age who's dealing with an emotional burden and in such a context the added I won't call it burden concert but the added energy that it takes to be Torah observant is taxing just to be frank somebody who's dealing already with an emotional burden they may feel perhaps accurately that they don't have a lot of extra emotional reserves and so therefore they're barely functioning as a person or maybe not even functioning as a person now you want them to function as a Jew so that becomes very hard to do what I'm supposed to do and at the same time there are things that are going to grant me short-term pleasure which is distraction from my pain so why wouldn't I do that right so you're talking about somebody who's in that kind of a situation which I I believe most of us in this generation to some extent I like that some some more some less and and within our lives also we fluctuate you know to various varying degrees right so here's the thing to tell such a person who's in pain and who's trying to get Escape through through easy pleasure to tell them what are you doing you you fool you don't you know that you're going to pay for this in Gahanna don't you know that if you can hold yourself back you're going to get pleasure in gun Aiden it's like you know what I'm in survival mode and when you're in survival mode it's here and now that's it when I'm in survival mode it's like I cannot think forget about thinking after 120. if I'm in survival mode I can't think about tomorrow right I'm thinking about now I'm in pain now okay so that's why I keep coming back to this concept of mission because what can you tell a person who's in pain what can you tell them that can motivate them that you're gonna they're already motivated by pain and pleasure and then you're going to use pain and pleasure as a motivator except a weakened version of it where you have to actually think cerebrally and and to extend the stakes for for after for after 120. so no it's not going to work so what's the message the message is Mission that even though you are in pain you are an indispensable part of the mission and and it's not about you right now it's about what you're needed for I don't know that you have to make it attractive I think you just have to make it unambiguous so that even somebody who's going through hell knows that even though I don't want to get out of bed today there are people counting on me it's a responsibility yes it can be pressuring and at the end of the day you know we're all works in progress and you can't punish yourself when you fail okay and when you don't show up for other people you're not a loser you're not a failure but what's your motivation for showing up it's not for me it's for others it's for others let everyone's there you're right not everybody's there but here's the here's the deal there are people like to argue well that's too lofty and they'll even say well you know that I'm Hal even acknowledges there is such a madrega but he calls it the level of khasid and he says it's beyond most people and most people aren't going to do it and that's why he that's why he tells you to be motivated by Scar and Alum Haba because that is something everyone can relate to and I'm going to tell you something this is only anecdotal but I see for myself it is not motivating okay so if Once Upon a Time it motivated people maybe when a person's greatest pleasure in this world was an apple like no I'm not even joking a hundred years ago there are people that for their birthday then we get a piece of fresh fruit their greatest Indulgence in life was a piece of fresh fruit okay so maybe these people you could give them reward and Punishment pleasure pain as a motivator today it doesn't work so you're saying it's a high level it's very lofty level to motivate people with the idea of mission I don't know of any other motivation so yeah it's a high level but it's our only level today but I I also do think that the fact that they know and I've dealt with people that are in pain the fact that you know it's not all or nothing the fact that you know even if you messed up today in the day and look at a Mitzvah by smiling at the crossing guard that is motivating that is a connection that is a stream that all of a sudden said you know how we say you have to find them in that moment that they're doing something good and compliment it catch them catch them you talk about the parenting class very good I think and that moment is when they're doing a Mitzvah if they're spiritually defunk if that's where they're lacking even ourselves you know what some days you might really not get slapped off and not done everything that you had thought the night before you're going to do but all of a sudden a friend called you and you helped her pat yourself on the back and say look I just did something that connected me to Hashem I just did something to boost my nephecial kiss my connection my muta or whatever we want to call it my spiritual wealth I just put some more cash into my spiritual bank and do it to yourself so even instead of focusing on all the things that you did not do and all the things that you might have done that were not a connection focus on the one or two or three or four that are connecting and you'll start to see your whole demeanor change but there's an unspoken question here which is how do you value connection exactly because you're saying don't beat yourself up when you don't do it celebrate when you do do it but what's what are you celebrating right but why is that valuable you fill up your yeah but why is it valuable why is there must seriousness valuable what did they accomplish the mission and that's what it all comes down to that the Mercedes never show past Generations enemies that we have today which is a very different Mercedes navigation what makes any of it valuable well even though they don't feel it okay okay so that's exactly her question what do you say to someone who's detached zero judgment left to love is a prerequisite what's the message why does it matter why does it matter I don't even know what the mission is to connect to Hashem [Music] with those same values what makes it you know you're bringing up a very good point and I'm it's something that I'm going to think about all week and it's going to be you know if you're not automatically motivated by a concept that there is a mission what can we do to package it so that you are and that is what we're in marketing all day all of us like we're marketing to ourselves or marketing to our family so that for sure is into marketing to get people motivated my husband needed he felt like he wanted to lose you to lose a little bit of weight and he said to himself like I tell people to switch their entire lives over to go from non-kosher to kosher and I can't control this little one thing that so and that's it that was his whole motivation and he for years has been on that same diet and it's I don't need to put into my mouth what is not permissible for me what's not permissible for others might be a very different thing so think about the packaging think about what it is that you're attracted to in a different Mission and the opposite of attaching to Hashem Mission and use that same thought process to try and build a little bit of connection s yeah [Music] is not connection you I said I'm not sure that connection is even the mission right connection may be one thing that happens as a result of the mission but I don't know that that's the mission what do you say connection is one of the tools that accomplishes the mission yes yeah yeah but when I say the mission I mean the the matara itself the actual Target the actual the mission is to give Hashem what he wants why who cares it does but here's the thing there's a minor of the rabbit that says he has no practical need right but he has a tither he has anything no it's not for our benefit it's for his benefit I didn't say he needs anything or wants and he of course he desires [Music] no desire does not mean I think we need what is the mission the mission is to give Hashem what he wants what does Hashem want he wants to be here in this physical world and he wants it not just to happen he wants it to happen in a very specific way he wants it to happen through us and that's what yeah that's what it's all about it well you're asking it's asking it as if we've done a great job making the world aware of it and they've rejected it and that's not the case people are not even aware if you will ask the average Torah observant Jew why they do what they do it is so well it it will be some version of reward and Punishment and the mishna tells us clear reward and punishment is not to be our motivation reward and Punishment certainly exists but that's not a motivation so then what is the motivation reward and punishment is an extrinsic motivator the mission valuing the mission meaning valuing what your Mitzvahs accomplish is an intrinsic motivator that's what it's all about bottom line it's about realizing that you are accomplishing something now if you say that it's really only for us then the whole thing's a joke the whole thing is an elaborate ruse to give us a system to earn stickers that we can cash in for some type of uh reward at the end and it does it doesn't have intrinsic value but if you say that the project is hashem's project and the project is therefore as intrinsically valuable as Hashem himself and I'm part of accomplishing something that has intrinsic value well that's a whole different story if you can so at the end of that sentence is if Hashem wants to somebody who's in pain is not going to be motivated by pain and pleasure but what are they going to be motivated by a person who's in pain will get out of bed for other people not for themselves every mother knows this okay well it's 12 30 now but I wanted to get to a good stopping point we didn't even get to a normal stopping point could I like do could I do no I'm not going to do a Dover let's let's just get I hear your question of course you hear your question but here's the thing I can't say this when we're recording I've said it as clearly as I can say in a way that I'm comfortable being disseminated to the world yeah come to the after party okay let me just finish off here okay we're just with one more line okay all right so this Consciousness this awareness of hashem's presence and he's scrutinizing and watching and therefore your Deeds matter and it motivates you to be careful in your behaviors we call that yiratata the lower Europe and for Maisha meaning the internal Maisha meaning your Das that is a very manageable feat in other words there is a part of you you keep saying why will I care how do you get somebody to care what do you mean you have a my should have been within you which is capable of focusing on spiritual ideas and appreciating spiritual ideas so your maishirobeno is certainly capable of appreciating this concept of valuing this concept and being motivated at least to the extent where it will guarantee certain behavioral outcomes exactly thank you okay