Life is Like a Grape (Parshas Shlach)

there was uh a german a frenchman and a jew uh were uh cap captured by the uh bad guys cannibals uh whatever just just a joke no no don't worry they weren't really captured it's just a joke and so they were brought before the firing squad and they were given the request for their last meal you know last meal so they asked the german what's what's your last meal and he said i would like some uh bratwurst and beer so they got him brought worse than beer and they shot him and then they asked the french what's your last meal he says i would like a baguette and uh red wine they got him a baguette and red wine and they shot him and they asked the jew what's your last meal he says strawberries they said strawberry strawberries aren't in season right now the jew says no i'll wait okay okay an interesting thing impartial regarding the setting of the story we know where it takes place takes place in the wilderness and uh the jews are going into the land or at least representatives of the jews the spies are going into the land to check it out and then they come back to the wilderness and they report that's where it takes place when does it take place well takes place when the jews are in the wilderness right but uh more specifically if you can pinpoint it to a time and by the way timewise we do know they came back on tisha buff right okay um and it was a 40 day trip so we can work out through different clues approximately what time of year it was but that's not how the toyota describes it toyota tells us when it wants to set the scene you know every story has to have a setting but it wants to set the scene what does it tell us it tells us in those days those days were the days of the ripening of the grapes in other words those were the days when the grapes are in season okay why is it important for us to know that this story takes place when the grapes are in season first of all first of all when maisha rabbenu sent them he told them take from the fruit of the land meaning any kind a few different kinds so it wasn't specifically grapes that they had to bring back and in fact you see they brought back various different species and and and and this is the second of all the second of all is apparently from the fact that they brought back various different species those pieces were in season as well so it wasn't just the ripening of the grapes apparently other fruits were ripe at the same time so why does the toyota emphasize that the setting of the story is in the specifically the days of the ripening of the grapes okay fine so uh i i don't know what's your patience level you want to hear the answer at the end or you want to hear right away i'm going to come back to it or you want to hear it right now what no you don't want to forget the question so you just want to hear right away okay fine no problems a democracy here we'll do whatever whatever the people want so i'll give you the answer right up front a a grape is an interesting fruit it has a very thin skin very thin skin translucent skin you can see through the grape skin and that's different than many other fruits i mean picture uh well think of some of the other fruits that the the spies brought back like a pomegranate you can't see through a pomegranate it's a very opaque and thick uh shell of course very uh not able to see through it or uh or a fig can't see through a fig but not really yeah i mean we should have brought a light board you know like the cautious people with the romaine lettuce with the bugs on the light board should have brought a light board but a grape if you hold the grape up to the light you can see the seed inside you know i did this once actually for a group of kids and i went out i was such a good teacher i went out and i bought grapes at the store you know what's gonna happen you know what you see you see what's coming i went out and i bought grapes uh they were seedless grapes so i couldn't illustrate the point but the point would have been if they would have had seeds like normal grapes is that if you hold a grape up to the light you can see the seed inside what's the point the point is that you know there's something in kabbalah called clipa clipa is a byword for negativity and kalipa literally means shall or peel so why is negativity called a shell or appeal because essentially everything is godly and everything is good because everything was created by hashem for a purpose it's just a matter of revelation and concealment some things they're very obvious how they are giving glory to hashem and those things have no covering no peel so to speak we call that kedusha we call that holiness then there are other things where you look at it like why does this even exist in god's world where the covering meaning the form in which it exists in this world is very opaque so you can't even see that it's god's creation maybe it even looks like something that's rebelling against god's plan which is really impossible because if god made it it's part of his plan but the point is that we call that a clipper and um sometimes we in kabbalah we talk about the chalice clippers at tomas the three utterly impure clippers uh which are by the way correspond to the different if you've ever seen a walnut growing from a tree i don't know if you've ever seen them but they look like uh tennis balls they're green yeah yeah i don't know if you ever saw walnut from a tree but the shell that we're used to seeing is already uh second shell well the the outer shell that we identify as the shell that's like the that's really the second shell not the first shell there are really three shells that are inedible and then there's a thin little membrane which is edible that's like the clipas noiga clipas noiga means the translucent or the shiny clipper um you know the planet venus is called noiga because it shines yeah so uh neighbor means to shine uh so there are chalice clips of tomase three utterly irredeemable clippers uh which you can see when you look at a a walnut you know has three levels that are inedible irredeemable you can't use them uh and then there's the thin membrane which is it's not the it's not the the the not itself but it's an edible membrane that's like clipped clipper snug is the neutral category uh and it's called klupasniga because you can sort of i mean metaphorically see the spark of godliness in it the spark of godliness is an open and uh like like in in something that's kedusha something that's holy you look at it you look at a seifer toyota and you don't have to you have a lot of imagination to see how this is useful for the service of hashem something that an object that is kuddish that is holy you look at it you say in the form that it's in right now it is very obvious how this is in service of hashem then there are things that you look at and they're so covered over with the form in which they exist in this world you say how could that ever be for the service of hashem and though by the way those things how do we use them to serve hashem because if everything is created for hashem's glory then has to also have a role yeah what's what's the role of something like that avoiding it avoiding it leaving it alone right so uh and then there's the the the the vast majority of the physical world is clippers the neutral stuff so you know you look at the cup of coffee it's not holy meaning it's not overtly like oh this is a holy object like you know we have to treat it with reverence like there's nothing holy about it on the other hand it's not prohibited no no one put anything in my coffee right okay so then it's not prohibited okay which would mean the only relationship i could have with it would be to avoid it stay away from it it's just sort of neutral it's cleopas nega which means that if you have vision if you're creative you can sort of look at it and you can think oh i see i can take this ordinary mundane thing that's not holy or profane it's just sort of spiritually neutral and i can drink it and i can use the energy or the caffeine there that's making my brain work faster and i can teach some torah and elevate the energy there so that's called clipas noiga now if you remember the whole story of the miragum was really on a spiritual level a story of coming of age for our people where we had to make the transition from a purely theoretical judaism to a practical judaism and uh that was a difficult transition because many of uh the the elite many of the most spiritually evolved people wanted judaism to remain theoretical and they were happy to remain in the midbar not only they're happy to the preferred they prefer to remain in the midbrain because their they had the torah already torah had already been given at sinai so they can just study torah they can contemplate on its truths and uh what are they going to gain by entering the land what mitzvos myceas practical implementation of mitzvos what do we need that for you know what kind of headache that brings and all the type all the types of you know city building and infrastructure and agriculture and what do we need it for right now we're in yeshiva you know where we're fed by mon the rains upon us we have the water from the very shell miriam so why should we enter the land and get caught up in all types of mundane stuff which is going to distract us from from spirituality and that's why they feared it that's why they feared it they didn't fear military defeat because they already knew that from experience that they could have a miraculous victory they feared the greatest enemy that they feared at this point was not a military foe it was the very nature of the physical world to consume us in fact that's what they described it as they said that the land and it devours its inhabitants they didn't mean the land so much as the earthliness the worldliness devours its inhabitants so um they didn't want any of that they didn't they didn't want to become pulled away from the spiritual truths and so that's why they came back and they said it's not a good idea skip it and uh maishrobeno basically told him you guys missed the whole point of judaism because the whole point is to practice tayag mitzvah 613 commandments souls in bodies in this world making use of physical objects thereby refining the physical world elevating the clipas noiga into kedusha every time we use resources around us whether it's the money that we spend on procuring the objects for a mitzvah or it's the objects themselves it's the lulu of an esser that we shake or it's the cowhide that we use for a mezuzah or it's the bricks you use to build a yeshiva all these physical objects when they're enlisted in the performance of a mitzvah so they get upgraded they get elevated from their default setting which is the mundane klipas noiga to kedusha and then they become overtly see the interesting thing is they remain physical and yet they reveal that they are part of hashem's plan if the only way things became holy was to ship them up to heaven you know what's the point they're beaming up scotty right you have to get rid of the the physical stuff in order for it to be holy no the whole point is that in the physical world remaining physical these things can be um converted into holiness by being put to use in in the proper way and that's really that's what yiddish kite is about it's about entering the land leaving the the the comfy mid bar and going into the land and getting involved in all types of day-to-day mundane stuff now i'll mention um that this is one of the difference between men and women that men tend to think of religious life as purely spiritual almost like an escape from day-to-day life you know run to the shul and go be spiritual and of course i'm over generalizing because that's what a generalization is but women uh tend to have a certain innate sensitivity to the fact that real uh religious life is everywhere all times whatever you're doing you don't have to go to a special place you don't have to be in a special mode you just everything you do even if it's like cooking and cleaning and taking care of kids even mundane stuff that you know it's not thrilling and not glorious stuff you know it's a lot more glorious to go to school and be the cousin or to you know to get nalia these things are you know very glorious and they feel very spiritual but that's not the limit of what religious life is for a jew religious life is in all manners of of being everything that we do and uh and so at any rate one of the differences between men and women is that men tend to be the cabal explains it as the difference between za and malchus that men tend to seek spiritual escapism and women tend to see how godliness can be integrated into day-to-day life the srina is an embodiment of divine femininity and the shrine has that same property of shrines from shaykh indwelling it comes down into the world it doesn't fly off into heaven and escape it wants to be in the world in a nurturing capacity taking care of the creation so those are two very different you know like one's going up one's going down now the truth is when they get married they both have to take u-turns in order to meet each other in the middle uh that's why accosson is malaysian let's go down a drop and kalos expiration going up so they have to like sort of turn the turn from their normal directions and meet each other but um femininity has an anchoring effect on masculinity at any rate i'm saying all this as a as a preface to something very interesting um that the the the toyota tells us regard it lists the names of all of these uh spies it lists them all elish macehan these are the names of the men that um hashem sent or had maisha sent and uh yeah so in possible it says they were all men heads of the jewish people they were heads of tribes what does it mean you were all men so rashford says that kulamanashim is allah kulaman should be lost it says that they were men means they were men you know they were mentioned you know that means prominent people respectable people because at that point before they chickened out they were shadym they were kasha they were proper people but the altaraba in lakutitera says something uh when i saw it the first time it just blew me away uh kulamanashim they were such men there were such men when they had an opportunity to integrate judaism into day-to-day mundane life they were like i'll pass they were such men they didn't get that if you can't integrate judaism into mundane day-to-day life you're missing the boat they thought that they could have a purely spiritual judaism learning ideas philosophy and that they didn't have to deal with you know the nitty-gritty the boring stuff the very non-glamorous stuff kulamanashim they were such men so uh what does it have to do with grapes what has to do with grapes is that the fear of the spies and and ultimately what they succumbed to and why they failed their mission was that it was not possible to live as loyal jews while also dealing with the physical world that was there i mean they were dead wrong but and it was a debacle and it was a tragedy of behela diodes it caused a a whaling for the ages but what was the message to them before they left the message was before they even left maisha is setting it up and he's letting them know listen you're going to go on you're going to scout the land that's your mission scouting the land doesn't just mean in that immediate context of spy scout and when scotland is speaking to each one of us you know this is this is toyota's directive to every individual at all times you look around you scout out the land you look at the physical world and you're trying to decide you know is there is there place in this world for a for a loyal jew you know and some people come to the conclusion well no and therefore i'm gonna sequester myself and i'm gonna avoid the world and i don't i don't care what happens around me i'll just build my uh my own ghetto walls higher and thicker and you know let the world be damned because it's it's irredeemable that's one attitude another attitude is the exact opposite extreme also unhealthy if you can't beat them join them okay fine so let me go into the world and let me forget about my my my duties as an ashama and let me just live it up try to succeed have a nice life you know become a materialist and those are both dead wrong the spiritualist and the materialists are both wrong the jewish mission is the integration of both that's uh i mean that's really what matero was the revelation at harsinai was what the madish calls bitter exeter that there had been a decree since the time of creation that the spiritual and the material could not integrate with each other they could not blend and when toyota was given it gave us the ability to blend it to how through mitzvos myself physical performance of mitzvos not meditations not ideas not spiritual truths but physical actions which embody these spiritual truths and that's why turtle was given in this world not in heaven that's why torah was given to souls and bodies not to angels the angels wanted the torah hashem said it's not going to work so the the the jews at that time as well as the jews today we're looking around we're scouting out the land we're we're trying to uh we're coming trying to come to a decision whether it is viable to be jewish in this world and you know it's very easy to make one of two extreme mistakes you know one is just to renounce the world and avoid the world and try to hide from the world the other is just throw yourself into the world become part of the world become influenced by the world and in fact you know when jews join the world you always you see what always happens any time when jews become like everybody else they're never just like everybody else when the jews try to show that they're like everybody else they become the most extreme most intense version of that so when a jew throws himself into the material world oh he does it with a extra oomph right so we're looking around the world and we're trying to assess what are the what's the viability here you know how how uh how realistic is it to be jewish in the world and we say stop before you even leave before you even begin to gather uh the data we want to just cue you in on something the grapes are in season what the grapes are in season yeah these are the days of the ripening of the grapes what does it mean these are the days of the ripening of the grapes look around the world the whole world is a grape the grape with the thin translucent skin where if you hold it up to the light you can see the seed inside that's a metaphor for this entire world that if you look at the world yeah it's covered over with a clipper it's got a skin over it so you look at the world you don't overtly immediately see kedusha holiness but you should know it's not gamma clip it's a timaeus it's not opaque clipper it's not irredeemable clipper it's a thin little grape skin clipper that's translucent so that if you have imagination and you look for more than a second and you try to see through the facade you try to see through the veneer you will perceive there's a spark of godliness in everything and that's the spark that allows it to be used for the service of hashem so it's just like the grape where you can see the seed inside when you hold it up to the light so too when you hold up this world to the light of torah you can see the seed meaning the spark inside the godly the the hashem is what we call it the the spark of of divine speech which is mahava which enlivens and and gives existence to that thing and you can perceive how this thing you know the the computer that we're using right now to to talk to people uh who aren't physically here and the chairs that you're sitting on and and the bricks of the walls around us and and the aforementioned coffee all this is mundane stuff that we're enlisting that we're bringing into serving hashem so these are all grapes these are all grapes because a person who doesn't look deeply would just look at it and say well it's not holy it's not holy let me run away from it but a person who has a deeper view looks at it and says that's a great that's a grape that's a grape that's you know look hold it up to the light the light of torah and perceive you can see the core you can see that there's a spark inside that that is that is useful and can be and can be enlisted in the service of hashem so this is what we have to know that when we go out to scout out the land each one of us our own personal mission in this world we have to we have to know that uh your soul entered the world at what time at the time when the grapes are in season the grapes are always in season the proverbial grapes what do you say always in season that's a good title we'll call it that always in season yeah so uh take advantage when when when hashem through hashtag pratis leads you to a certain opportunity in this physical world to make use of certain resources or to have a a certain possession or a certain wealth or whatever it is um it's not like we have to justify these things and say well i'm i'm entitled to a little comfort i'm i'm entitled to a little you know uh they call it creature comfort now that that's that's we're not entitled to anything we're not entitled to anything rather look at it in a different way that when i have physical resources i can serve hashem with these resources i can use them as caleb lelocus i can turn them into vessels for godliness because after all innately they already are sort of primed for that purpose they're like grapes you just have to look deeper and see how there's already a godly spark you just have to be slightly creative to see how to how to use it i'll tell you one quick thing there was a hassett in sh glove named the pinchus and uh rampinhus was a big uh hosset of the altareb the balatanya and he had the biggest house in shklov and he hated it he hated because he was a husset he didn't want a big house he didn't care about a big house and by the way i don't know what a big house in shklov meant 200 years ago i'm sure we wouldn't be that impressed but for that time in that place it was considered a mansion so he once he told the altar he said i can't stand this big house i got to get rid of this house and the altar ever told him pinchas you have to have a big house he says why do i have to have a big house he says because um your house is the nicest house in sh glove and then when they need to make meetings like when they get together and they're going to hire a new mulamid or they're going to hire a new sheikh they always make the meeting in your house you know the parlor meeting they always they always make it at your house because you have the nicest house and since it's in your house then they end up taking a shaykhit who has your shema allamah we're taking the right guys so the fact that all the meetings are in your house it ends up it's affecting the community in such a positive way so who are you to say you don't want to have a nice house when it has so much benefit to so many other people so you're going to have to live with it you know you're gonna have to plug your nose and just deal with having a big house that's it we should all have lots of nice material things and use them for the proper things and have the vision and the creativity to see past the very thin translucent skin that's covering these things and see to the core to the seed the godly spark and know how to use it in the right way i had a whole other thing i want to tell you but i i realize i don't have time for that you don't have time i'll do it i'll tell you one other thing i'll tell you one other thing there's an interesting thing here about when did cauliff start arguing with the spies um it sort of seems out of place um yeah possible ahmed yas of silenced the nation regarding we will surely go up esau and we will inherit the land because we can do it they hadn't yet said they can't do it at this at this point um so why was he protesting why was he objecting they only say in the next passage we can't do it because the people that are stronger than us or stronger than hashem depends how you read it so he's arguing with them before they started arguing and yet he was right so how did he know like he's sort of like preemptively arguing like how did he know they were going in that that direction so i'll tell you something very interesting i saw you know and the previous thing about the grape is also in the circle but it's a different city um how did he know what direction they were already heading if you look at maesha's request malaysia's request when masha tells the spies what to go look for masha says mahi go see the land what it is there's allah and the people who are sitting there who are dwelling there if they're if they're strong or weak if they are few or they are many so he's talking about go find out what kind of people live there and then maisha says um then find out what the nature of the land is if it's good or if it's bad um what kind of uh what kind of cities do they dwell in are they in like open cities or walled cities fortresses so meisha first says go find out the people then the land now i know the first thing he says audits go find the land but rashi explains audits here means the effect that the audit has on the people there are lands that make people stronger and lands that make people weaker so the first thing is the first passage is saying find out what kind of people live there then the next plus a good test right she says find out what kind of land it is okay so take note first moisture says find out what kind of people live there then measure says find out what kind of land it is now when they report when they come back and they report they came back and they said we sent we went to the land we've come we're coming from the land that you sent us to the games of this holiday it is flowing with milk and honey then they start describing the people but you should know the people there are very strong and uh they have big cities and we saw giants there so you see they flipped it malaysia says find out the people and then find out the land they report i want to tell you about the land it's flowing with milk and honey but the people are very tough you're not going to be able to beat them as soon as that happened vyas khalid call of silence the nation and he said hey guys we can do it how did he know they didn't say yet we can't do it they didn't say we can't do it until the next passage because here's the lesson here's the lesson such an important lesson khalif already knew these guys were going to chicken out the minute that they mentioned the land before the people the land is talking about the bounty what it is that you have to gain it's flowing with milk and honey it's such a nice land the people is the obstacle you have to go through to get to that bounty these are the people you're going to have to go through so it means the challenge or the difficulties when they put the goal meaning the ultimate reward first and then the challenges that you need to go through in order to get to the goal second he knew they were corrupted already maisha asked go find out two things for me the exact opposite order he said find out what kind of people are there meaning who we're going to be dealing with who do we have to fight and then find out the nature of the land is it bountiful you know what kind of a kind of a land it is so he said first the challenges you have to go through and then the end goal or and uh reward let me explain something to you um there's something called extrinsic motivation there's something called intrinsic motivation it's been studied somebody who does a job because he's being compensated for it is relatively unmotivated and doesn't matter how sweet you make the reward or how painful you make the punishment it's an extrinsic motivation extrinsic ex the latin root means outside of like exit or exodus so it means that the the the the reason he's doing it is outside of the thing itself then there's intrinsic motivation intrinsic i n in it means in intrinsic motivation means that you value the the task itself so uh you know actually i was interviewed about this in ami magazine a couple weeks ago for the schwarz edition i stopped writing my column over there but from time to time they come to me and they asked me a different q a so they asked me about telling kids about gehenna and i and i knew i knew what the conversation was going to turn into should we talk about more oh inish or more scar and i realized that they're stuck in a loop it's not like more initial more scar how about neither you understand gahannam is the is the inish is the punishment right and then there's grenadine which is the scar but they're both two sides of the same coin you keep emphasizing scar and oins what we call carrot and the stick right so you're leading a mule and and you use the carrot you know he wants the sweet carrot and you use that that's the positive and then you have the stick you hit them you know that's the negative right so you have gonaden is the is the carrot and gahannam is the is the stick but all of this is extrinsic motivation he's not valuing the job itself he's doing the job because of he loves the reward or or he hates the punishment so i said to them instead of asking you know should we talk more about gehenna less about gahannam what's your alternative to oh let's let's let's stress the the the positive about the reward how about let's de-emphasize all reward and punishment not that it's not true of course it's true but the mishna says don't be like the servants to serve their their master in order to receive a reward doesn't say there isn't the reward house which allah just says they shouldn't be the motivation don't have that be on your mind the al trebba by the way says pros means like a piece of bread when you cut off a little piece from the loaf so he says you should know that even the biggest ganaden is just a prusa it's just a piece it's not the real reward the real reward is for mitzvah the effect that the mitzvah has on making the world adidas that we transform this world into a into a place that's holier than any heaven right but your reward in the afterlife okay it's nice but it pales in comparison to the the intrinsic value of the project itself so anyways i was talking about this in the the q a and i told them you got to give kids an intrinsic motivation you have to tell them that their mitzvahs have an effect instead of saying well how much will i get paid if i do it or how much am i going to get can asked you know find if i don't do it how about explain to me the importance of of the job itself no they don't do that okay so it has to be done and and if it's not done i want to tell you something the limits of extrinsic motivation always will will will they will always surface at some point because at some point the job's just not worth the reward or at some point the punishment is worth the pleasure of doing the sin so it's never going to really ensure any type of consistent performance but when you teach somebody no the mitzvah has intrinsic value the mitzvah is valuable unto itself the fact that you're also rewarded for it that's a bonus that's beautiful but that's not the reason why we do it so cull of knew they were corrupted already because they roll in they're like oh first of all you should know it's a gorgeous land it's flowing with milk and honey oh but the people there are very strong they're very hard to defeat color was like uh oh these guys were corrupted already they're talking about the reward first and then what you have to go through in order to get to the reward there are they already lost the he i don't even have to wait for them to say let's forget it let's let's abort the mission let's not do it because i already know where they're headed because once you put the reward first then sooner or later inevitably you will come to a point where you will say what i have to go through in order to get it is not worth the hassle now i happen to be they came to that point much sooner than later right away but call of duty it's only a matter of time now because once they're putting the reward first i know it's inevitable they will come to a point where they will will make an evaluation and they'll say it's just too much hassle it's not worth it melisha sent them he did the exact opposite he said tell me about the people we're gonna have to go through to get there then tell me about the land that we're gonna gain after we've gotten there in other words the process and the result are an equal footing you know there's an expression it's not just the destination it's also the journey right so when the value the intrinsic value of the work itself um presents itself as something that's like not just oh this is a necessary evil i have to go through it in order to get the thing that i really want but rather the task itself has value the struggle itself has value then it that then it's a whole different level of commitment it's a whole different level because then i i appreciate not what am i going to get out of it and then i'm making an evaluation well is it really worth it no no this itself is what i'm getting out of it so if i'm doing a mitzvah and i have to ask myself well how good is the skyrim ghanaian really going to be you know what i already lost but if i'm if i'm doing a mitzvah and i say wow this is beautiful i'm doing a mitzvah and even though it's hard and even though there are challenges but this this is what it's all about this oh and i'm also getting scar okay that's nice but you don't even have to talk to me about that right now it's going to happen anyway but the fact that i value the job i value the work i mean you could go a lot deeper than this you can compare it to an interpersonal relationship you know talk about like like spouses where like uh you know it's very uh i don't know it's almost crass to say it but you know they think about like a husband and wife like well you know if i if i'm nice to you if i if i take you out for dinner if i buy you a present you know what am i going to get out of it oh that's all yeah it's not worth it you can't like like come on like whatever happened to just bonding for the sake of bonding no no no what am i going to get out of it or conversely you know and and if i don't take out the garbage what's my wife going to do divorce me yeah so i won't take out the garbage and and by the way i had somebody say this to me i'm not making this metaphor up because a guy actually said this to me he said and i'm not going to describe who it was but somebody who should have known better a religious person somebody i considered to be learned at least in certain areas and uh and and he said to me well if you don't emphasize scar varnish why would anybody do anything why would you do any mitzvahs if you're not going to get punished for it for doing invaders why would you do any mitzvahs and i said and if your wife wouldn't divorce you even if you're mean to her would you be mean to her and he's like well yeah that's why you're not mean to your wife because she would divorce you if you're not like that hit me like a ton of bricks i'm like oh my goodness so this guy's basically saying you know don't do evades because of gun aiden and don't be mean to your wife because you know she'll leave you like it's it's hard to wrap your head around that this is the way but i i at the end of the day i can't really fault this person because this is how he was trained this is how he was taught he was trained with extrinsic motivation it's all extrinsic motivation so at any rate let me put together these two concepts i was telling you about because actually they're one chapter of tanya i told you they're two different circus from from the rabbit but they're really one chapter of tanya chapter 10 of tanya it talks about the benealia yeah um like even like let's say you're watching the kids right you think you're doing good for your wife like she says please watch the kids right and you then you if you watch the kids you could go out with your friends tomorrow right it's just not it doesn't even have to be so clear as that it could be like you're going to get by you watching the kids you're cleaning like you're giving you know i don't know well even that's an extrinsic motivation because that's like tit-for-tat like i i do you a favor you do me a favor so even even that's an extrinsic motivation how about you watch the kids because first of all men always say i'm babysitting your babysitting your kids right right how much you get paid for babysitting at any rate yeah yeah you just do it because it needs to be done because it's the right thing to do and you value doing the right thing it's not what am i going to get out of it it's not about barter emotional barter anyways uh the the first thing i was talking about was that the the world is a grape and the second thing i was talking about is extrinsic motivation how it fails us or the value of intrinsic motivation so if you look in chapter 10 of tanya talks about both these concepts the same at the same time it says there are people called benealia very lofty people why they're called benealia for two reasons one is because they do what they do for the sake of the most high let's say like the shallow calls it so they serve hashem for altruistic motives like desire says who is a closeted one who is kind to his maker be kind to hashem like be a mensch hashem wants you to do this do it for him just what am i going to get out of it come on don't be so crass who cares what you're going to get out of it hashem asked for it do it for him oh but i'll get some ghanaian from it stop it already just do it for hashem hamis khasid be nice to hashem all right so they're called benealia for that reason because they do things for the sake of the the most high they're also called benealia because everything they do is for the sake of it's called in kabbalah hallows man the raising up of the of the main nukeven of the the feminine waters which means the refinement of the physical world that everything they do is to cause a uh hisabha of khasheikal in to transform dark to light which means taking mundane things and turning them into spiritual things through using neutral physical objects and enlisting them in the service of hashem so these are both uh reasons why they're called benealia and the alta there in chapter 10 says that both of these explanations are the same they're one of the same they're synonymous because at the end of the day what does it mean to do something for hashem's sake it means for the sake of dirt so they're one of the same if you realize the world is a grape the world can be refined the world is redeemable and its redemption is in your hands through the practical mixes that you perform in this physical world and at the same time you realize that the purpose of of yiddish kite is to serve hashem it's not to serve you it's not a self-help program it's not for your payoff it's for him it's really one in the same concept what does it mean to serve hashem that means to give him this world in its ultimate refined form