Should i Repeat The Bracha? A Practical Guide - Rav Yakov Zev Smith

i' like to welcome everyone to today from should I repeat a practical guide great sponsoring she 718 851 8651 email.com Smith two and a half weeks ago someone told he was ding in and the said by I woke everybody up it wasn't a and they weren't sure what to do it was ready he couldn't correct it I remembered a number of years ago we had the sh once on it was before and which is also common especially and this started me on a journey of many different shilas that come up in different form is a little much more common than these two when someone makes a mistake in it's very common he left out shabas in the whole so he just said it at the end is that good enough he left it out in the just put it in the end I had a shil Once by the say night someone said and left out and as we'll see daily sh a whole host of sh including daving and MIT so we always try to find like one that hopefully will give us the enough information the question I think is very simple we know the Milla has to have every word if you miss even a word of the Milla you're not y does the same CL apply to a that if made this the so you can't miss a word or maybe it's a little more liberal if you don't if long you said the main part of it is good enough so said we have to learn today a mish the mishna says that if you set on any food this is if you make a instead of the question is if you made a Shak on bread are you ra says no you're not said yes you made a on bread then the has an interesting suggestion maybe this is about saying a shakon bread is now listen to this even though it's not this particular sh but it's a site of today let's say someone was creative and on bread he made with your original so said no you can't make such a can't make your own maybe if you can be with you could be with but we see a CL it's not necessarily true but listen this is the isite of today maybe if you said that's better than saying shal bread why at least you mentioned the word pass you didn't mention pass so it's to off track is not bad or maybe if you said although you mentioned pass but that's your original you can't make your own but if you said and that's a fully legitimate when it comes to a sh maybe it's good enough so we see the following there is a cloud called but we see two possibilities if it's close enough he said the word pass maybe if you said a that's acceptable in other places you made a sh on it's good enough how do we so listen to the ra please the ra first he tells us what a is don't play around with the number one is don't play around with the brra and his said that do the same so first we see he passin like this Cloud you can't change the but look at the look at the a very mild you're making a mistake so the r is quoting this you can't change it but in a very diluted form so like every word in the r a lot was written but what's for us there but I'm going to I'm going to read which is based on Mish but I think it's the side that we need he says don't touch the say it like it says in the if you said as long as it's close enough he says the only the real problem is well soon you can't say a bur preat on a potato that's she but if you have it close enough you're okay but she is not accept and number two if there supposed to be and you left that one of the two it's also not but if it's close enough so the the the is explaining that we we pasin on aak on bread is good enough like you made your original but it has the same idea it's good enough enough we pass can but it's usually good enough what's the problem if you said now before we apply this more specifically there's one more prerequisite in a and that's the you have to have what's called without that and that's so you need the basic with now again I want to be clear you look at the per he speaks about what a is what is he said there was never a group of like we have when they 120 amongst them the my point is let's not be original and change br keep it as it is but the end of the day if a person left out a few words or changed a few words as long as he kept the the standard with now I should mention quotes that that says since every word is so important even if he miss one word you're not y I hope you don't P him like that don't P like that but the point is we're going to talk a lot about changing but the right way to do it is follow the but if you have the and now let us apply this and see you see how much we get from a simple if someone said an eight on a had on a melon so that's a mishna he's not why it's a vegetable doesn't grow on a tree if he said by mistake on an Apple same M same he was but it's not a terrible mistake it's true it's a in other words we do but it's not like mill Milla the wrong word you're not y missing a word you're not y here you can make a dum on an Apple why it's not a bad enough mistake to make it a she this sha is GRA much more gay in our times many people today are glutenfree or Celiac and I'm told that the the wheat free rolls are look exactly like the regular rolls so the question is when someone made a he thought it he made a shahak on a real bread he didn't know he thought it was a gluten flea roll in his house he has a child that's gluten-free he saw this Ro thought made a shackle on it was bread when you made a on regular bread that's in let's say it was a glutenfree gluten-free product and he made he's not why cuz that's it's not so this is in you'll see it that even if you made it now here's a because you should have made the biggest and you made a shackle you took a a a you had a regular bread and you made a shackle the ter is it's not it was a real sh but it wasn't and question that happens in different forms on aalis he made on AAL he was in other words he made the wrong on a b of so this although it was a but it's still not and says either mistake in either end you would be but let me tell you let's not be too quick to say it's good enough listen to a child that could come up a person when he got to the of he was used to saying on the on that he ended off so this will say maybe it's not so bad because there is such a before and the says once such a however I didn't find an earlier but in he says that it's a mistake it's a because really before is going on the is on the on the upcoming and the whole is so not only that you didn't say the intended but your BR is inconsistent please he did it so this would be atile of a an inconsistency so again this is what I saw if you found differently please tell me but here we see that it's not everything not so quick to say it's good enough is not true story someone was D now even those that were busy smoing woke up for this one so here we've attempted to say it's not you know it's a very bad mistake but the end of the day we have the because the is a accepted that's what we would say who has a question didn't discuss this has a question why why so said that it's two different concepts is going on the world and if you said the wrong it's or it's not what we wanted you're supposed to speak about and he quotes a second or he quotes the that every person tell us there's a time when the when when the comes the comes and the time when the goes goes away but have the that can make it even before the time so based on both says if you said not it's not good enough on the bottom he says a story that once approached by a go and says you Jews are very selfish you D it only for yourself so on the spot said I'll tell you the you don't realize we're not selfish the tells us why is the of the it corresponds to the meal that's in the eth day so we have a special for those that underw so the guy was happy and when he went out he says that's not the only the right is there's a special for but be that as it may we would have thought he's y but it's a big enough of mistake that you're not y okay I'll tell you a someone was given and he concluded so if you're not experienced it sounds good right it sounds good but it's not good the last two whatever it is but is about the and what's the correct what's the correct Sema [Music] says you mixed up two it's like wasn't he tells a story he said he was daving with whatever the reason it doesn't say why but he he had to so he was paying attention to what the sh said and the sh said the following he said he combined the two BR and he said there were 150 people and no one even realized so he said he didn't know what to do he so he finished but the finished and it was an a because he wasn't because he only said one and he skipped one and missed one not so he completed and he had to start it again now what I was wondering is let's say he said afterwards was so this didn't discuss that but it's not so far off but really he should have said so that I didn't find the but it could be that that mistake had he said the the next again maybe it was okay it's but it's not really the exact I heard the in my own ears by the someone said and they left out the words so so when I heard that first I said the says it doesn't sound right besides that he left it sound like a you're making a special on eight and unting mat maybe you like the taste of it you you're giving direction so I looked into what I couldn't find until I found the P he says so he does his homework well he didn't find that I can also either find it but he does say an interesting point he says says why require making so he shouldn't jump into theah and do it without I'm not eating a piece of bread I'm doing the the r of so he says that's the integral part of the could be if you didn't say now the EM is I would like to add to that if you say you it's very off theow pass the highest but at least you you mention some for this food here you didn't mention any point of so although you said the word mat but you left out that that you didn't compensate for and plus like we said could even sound like so I can just say it seems to us that even you're not if someone finds an earli SCE that you are I'd love to hear it please tell me challenging question beautiful question I should say someone had a potato he didn't say he didn't say he said so at first glance it sounds like a m but then again wait a minute not is good but he made up his own so I found he says that the word does not mean ground means land is like the he quotes many the PR he says it's two different words not it's like the the the pre of the land it's the country is supposed to be ground that's what he wants to say that's right the good word country B it's a bir from the country which is not true and therefore he says you're not y now he doesn't in this but there's a big on his we do say from the country so the embes I saw is based so maybe he say so maybe that's has to be that but it's not likely had the word mean meant land country how can you make it's based on and he says based on our as long as it's not and and is not because we make he's convinced you that you are that certainly it can't be it can't be wrong but let me tell you something more beautiful he has a question obvious question you learn a why did it say so he says maybe it's if you made this mistake and you made in other words from the Mish we see and is interchangeable so that would answer your question even more so and the Z says this as well so I think we could e at least say this is you made thank you very much or very good in both would be listen to fascinating someone asked he learned that if you makes under the do you make many but there's you don't need so he why is it the minut to make what about you should leave out the and not take a chance of making so this is beautiful vintage he says I don't get you and the way if you leave out you're any better because we said in the gamar that's means if you're supposed to make a and you don't make you're not so if you don't make a it's also it's also not so then he writes with his beautiful says I know what you're coming from because you you have a problem if you if you make and you're not supposed to so you made a you're not supposed to so you have two shame the and the because if you made if you only make it with a without it's only risking one sh so you see I try to figure out this fellow but at the end of the day he says that and make now I know this particular not that's but you see how is all over it affects the the standard of question this week we started I think this week we starting tackle with the AR and it's interesting some say whenever it's possible in the some never say it some only say it byit on what's the story about theit is called so the end of the day it's a big SU but this is because the some say it during and other say the did not say it because he held you being it's a form of however the minut in many places to say it as I found as early as that justifies the he basically says the same that I read you earlier from the that is not literal any slight change the is you can't change a or a significant change but if you add or subtract a few words it doesn't change the and makes it a it's good enough and he has two R listen to this one R is you're allowed to add to the if a person he to add must be if that you allow to add as long as doesn't change it and the second R he brings and I qu we do and there's no problem of so the of saying or not is should we change the or maybe leave it as it is if you want to see a beautiful discussion the discusses them and he does give explain something I never knew that even though in most there's you never say but I think in all the so that was the meaning of why PM is different he says because so although we don't say typically throughout the year but by by that's that's considered and it is said someone said that was but because he added to doesn't need was he is that so the EM is he did change the but what's wrong with adding he proves this as long as it's not a significant enough change in other words is not literal it's not like Milla that if you add a word or subtract a word you're not y as long as it doesn't make a big impact on the on the structure of the would be and his source is our the next group of questions is when a person left out a word and this is very when a person is listening to a MIT the most common M I'm in a camp in Yesa they're making ab and someone's listening to the m but he's busy getting the the H to be able to see the H and he misses the word b of the or you missed the word either you did say a word but more commonly when you're being he missed the word someone Snee and he missed so one thing is clear in the end of if you want to be it has to have to every word as if you're saying the so there's no if you have to say the word you have to hear the word now the question is which words are and which are not so is very clear in the end of if you missed the word he's not even though he heard the rest of the is an integral part of the even so if someone didn't hear the word and heard the rest of he wasn't and that's why it's when when we trying to get the trying to get the a when the M continues the stop instantly that's the most important the is the is the next is if he missed the word so says is the is a and I think it's a beautiful you ever wonder when a person with even a little bit talks to a you don't say you the why 100 times a day first person so it's not so the that you don't say says we do say why based on the Su it what's the hez I think it's p the B says I don't need formalities I don't need the the I want you to realize a 100 times a day you're talking to me you know if I would ask you last you spoke to the you'll say me I'm one second you right you said 100 time said of the word the I know what it means you you so the I rather you rather you have that feeling so the word at is not even so P You're supposed to say it so you can't say it ra says it's a good idea but it's we can't say it's so that's why I think the word is is not the next is shame that's a the says if you don't say is not not the question is do you have to have both Shamus some the person missed or missed but he heard so gimm he says if you miss the shans you're not but if you heard any says even if he heard a different Asar someone said probably he learned however the he says you're right if you only heard said one shame or heard one shame but has to be adness that's if you heard Al without OD he's not the interesting the end does not quote does not quot and he also say the same like a you have to have one sh but has to be ad quotes them but he says any if you didn't say is also good so here you have a pretty tough shot to call M says any is good like may you have to have so probably like everything else when you have a legitimate you could say someone had what he thought was a so he says I'm not going to make a new but you know what I'll do just to be safe I'll say it like I say it now and he said the without but he said those words then the the says you have no suff you have to make youn with the first so now we had a maybe the fact that he said afterwards and the maybe with that but he's wrong you're not is not a not shame it's not even one of the Sham so here we have you look at he says if he didn't say any shame the fact he said is not enough a person said but left that so this is that if he said could be and he says half a line you know what he means to say I think the ultimate is and where's the where's the me so he hold El was good enough but no other place can quote this and I think it's not unom at all because Mal has to be mentioned so if he said he would not be a tricky question is if he said so the Evan OA now EV OA was was nft five years before the G was born that goes back a few hundred years ago so he has a pretty long stickle in s and he proves very very convincingly that the word is he he brings from countless that true many many RI that is so he says he believes if you said without now the big problem which he himself alludes to you have to have says if you left out the word you're not because you have to say and quotes the of ver so here you have a tricky suff is clear he has a good that you are that you can't be you can't argue he says I this if you say with a witha that might be good enough without but you cannot go with a if the says differently so let's one of the two is enough is needed unless you said now if so oh yeah but but again not yeah but yeah but you're not sub right you're Notting the word now if you someone someone either someone was listening to and he missed the word or he missed hasem so he's it's not yet lost what he could do is quickly add it you add it supplement to someone else's Hava Like We Do by Milla but don't miss the next word you're going to you Miss so do it in a way that you didn't you don't end up missing a question that comes up an irreligious person that wants to D in bench and he cannot reades so the say you to say in English or any that he understands the problem is what do he do with so you can't be by saying Hashem he like I said and you can't be by saying Lord Lord is not the Shem it's a description So He suggests you could say in English but at least say then you could say king of the world now it's interesting the OD scroll Tes hasem in English Hashem but in the beginning they have a disclaim that when if you want to be by saying the in English you have you can't use the word Hashem because hasem is is just a way of avoiding say shash and even Lord is also no good Lord is this deson like so you would have to say either or G which is the interesting question a person Tak that had a a long BR let's say Bening or another example might be or some and he said the and perfectly but he left that a few words in the middle so this this is the that we saw from the as long as he didn't tamper with the thrust of the there's he would be in fact the says if someone does not know the so he tries the best he could he knows there and in the middle he said whatever he remembered he could do that even if you leave out a word of two or a concept of two as long as he has the main part of it he would be has a very painful sh in a cha where someone has a certain he skips words where he talks he skips words can he be allowed to say a because he might end up skipping integral words so he says first of all if he skips the middle of the of the of the we have a tbit that I mentioned earlier as long as he didn't change the thrust of the BR and he said also even though it's very little of the original and maybe with the hearer and he ends off what you see his motivation the whole CH it's a to find another words let him say the and hope for the best but you see how much we're using this simple that is not literally as long as you get the part of the you're okay the next group of questions is when someone said the wrong which is and he changed it so this we know is a he picked up a piece of potato and said he said why because you got it straight at the end now the question is let's look at his which is wrong which is so you added the right but you said why is a so the simple TS will say that's the mechanics of you replaced the wrong so as if you were able to erase it but that's a if I say hello is that good did theama erase hello y not so how did why is it a so the simple ter is I was trying to say the right so it's but hell is right but I'll tell you about there who said it's a let's he's talking about he said and then real it's only soda so what's wrong with saying it's true the creates and creates Shak I didn't say this is G I said the bur creates G and Shak so he's learning the whole thing is not a problem because it's it's is so we have two why changing works here we come to the next question let's say he said a on a grape drink okay and then he said Shak and he thought that it's Grape Wine so he quickly corrected it and he tasted it it was so now he has the right and heed what he do with that was he aate he shouldn't have been does the good kind and says you know keep your mistakes I'll take your so says I can't understand this that this should work because it's a but say it works the same same gar he says what's wrong you didn't say this is G and he says you're trying to praise hem even though you added the wrong thing afterwards but it doesn't make the whole BR a pule and his is like you try to make it better but if you think about it it's very simil to the ra what's wrong with saying now today I'm having the grape soda tomorrow I'm going to make K I'm Mak what's wrong if I said it here so we have two that when it's Mak sense it's not even though it's m he would be now when you added hell that has no and that's no good now I'm going ask you a tricky question someone washed for bread made and and he's so used to making he made a second which happens but he quickly changed it and he looks you now what how would you answer so someone told me well it's no good because he said four words and then seven words and he replaced it only with but that's that's wrong what's wrong with that it's not like you have to have word for word the the mechanics of is you could replace this for that so if this has seven words this has four words that's nothing wrong but the problem is the it's a and it doesn't flow it's like like so I saw the he says but if you understand that gives you the right of to replace it so what's wrong what you said earlier in other words this is a little worse than the previous case but it's still a replacement so he saysa it's page 119 that you could be as long as you corrected it and as far it really is we don't find anybody saying this differently and if you learn that it's a replacement so what's wrong okay question will soon be it's he said the SPH the bra and SPH of the fifth day it really was the fourth day so he found realized and changed it to from fifth to Fourth was he is the so this is not like G Shak that you could say it's all true it's it's the fourth not the fifth day fifth is wrong maybe that would the and require a new but it can't be says if he changed he's okay must be like we said replacing Works unconditionally and other words but if you said the wrong BR and replace you have two SP why it's good number one it's not and number two replacing but even without that it's at least a that you change the the is the in t his is he puts in parentheses I must tell you that even even if you change it it's okay because he's he's being in the mitvah now that's a that M does not quote in fact the himself puts it in parentheses so that's a on that but no doubt about it if he changed he would be another important I see this quite often I'll give you standard example someone's making abdah and as a mistake he made the before so what is an that knows he wants to do the right thing goes oh it's the wrong s that so he corrected it so he made that's a mistake he did the wrong thing why so this is a su for itself I can't even get into it now but in ra brings a r the r which is a big the r holds the when you said if you said to say and at the end he said eight by mistake he's as long as you said the shame with the right more says the ra if he said the wrong and corrected it it wouldn't help if he said the shameem thinking of the wrong then it remains wrong the BR isik by the sh the other argue the brings both sheas we do we are and we not the ra but says the M when the BR doesn't need correction it just you want to make it more of an orderly fashion don't change it cuz you're messing up the says you're only with and you not going to help because the was by the beginning so what's my point when you said the wrong BR you made a Bates on a potato so you have no choice you have to change it or else then change it and rely on other sheas but when you said the that's right just you want to change it because you want to keep the order don't mess with success so don't change if he said don't change it and the third if you made a shahak on a a drink and you I didn't make a Maus first don't quickly change it to Ma so you have the order of BR because according to the ram you're doing a dis surface so all these three case Mr B ra test he got involved says if you don't need to change it don't change it interesting question someone said the wrong BR he corrected it with another wrong but the third the third try he got it right so he has wrong second wrong and third was right one was the other how would you how would you deal with that so it sounds intimidating but it's not I saw say he says very correctly what's the problem the the the second one was the first one right now the second one's the problem so the third the real was the second one so what's wrong you don't have to with the third one all the mistakes as long as you're one ahead head you're okay how much is so in I found three different places who says the is three words not four words when do you start counting let's say you said do you start counting when you finish the word or when you said the last correct word is p the the problem is you have to change it before it's when is it three words after you said the mistake so why should it be tally when you said the last right word you said the wrong it's true so within three words you could correct it so it's totally from the last when you said the last wrong word if you're going to say it's toally when the last right word see never change because always is not than three words so the three words the is when you finished the last wrong word someone someone said the wrong wasn't sure what to do so it was he was thinking what to do is that enough to say that he could change it because it's still because it's he says nothing doing the point is if the was you can't change it so who cares if you you did in another big I want to mention just to make the point is tricky because has to have but shabas throughout it's very common people forgot to mention shabas [Music] until is that good enough he supposed to say shabas beginning to the end he only mentioned by so this is a huge and don't make mistakes it's not but says this I saw says at the end at the end of the day we talk about a so someh as long as there was a good and there was no in the that's good so very very B if you left out shabas or whatever the case is and only said in the OR in say you left out until the very end you would be listen to a beautiful we began with this someone on a random happened Tuesday gra almost three weeks ago some people know what to do during the year so if it's he has to repeat the whole if he finished and he said it's he have to say the whole again so came my mind I remember like yesterday's house there a shabas in between so we have if he said during the rest of the year so in in first at first glance we would say suches is good for 10 days a year is good for 10 days a year and also it's not so different so maybe Tak it's okay it's like a Shak on bread it makes sense it's close enough what bothered me is if you left out two pretty important words so I look into this so regarding the I found all say if he said during the year that happened two and a half weeks ago he's and quotes this so I'm quite comfortable to say that you would be now I did see quotes that says you're not because you you change the but enough is good okay fine I'm sorry good good good fine now what's interesting is is no one speaks about the doesn't mention it in fact some P can put the two together if you said I was wondering why so I looked into this and he says if you say could be because the m is only like the says in sitting but not the rest of the year so he says because then the sitting not the rest of the year then in he has more of a suff he says maybe is good it's not then I saw a fascinating story in the SA page himself said and he decided to finish but he was he has to find this he would not make even though he was in his last years he was elderly and he was fasting until he finds beish and he could not find it in M any place that is y and he was very very upset I wrote a save for K and I failed this and it didn't say I didn't write it any place so the family were beside himself he's not going to eat so someone found a reference a rem that so he decided he's going to make a and eat but he was very upset he didn't write it fish now if I would have been there I would have said he did write it fish CU that he left out two key words he writes so how could it be worse I don't believe it could be worse I think it's even better now the only sh is why why did he when that was that but this you'll enjoy the end of he writes matter of factly that he quote he saw Rutenberg had a minut on he said like do on he says if the rest of the year listen to this you say because if you could say it on a it's not really must be it's not why is it not cuz 10 days year we do say it and he throws in for good measure the burn out a the rest of the year so what do we have we have in the back is not wrote it's whatever it's worth said because the word is based on the and that's considered a significant now is quoted saying is not right it's not but but is BAS on a POS you can't tamper with now the person that quoted says who said that BR is based on the so what do we have regarding to us is a but most with is good you left out that's fine yeah you're right you're right you're right you're right you're right absolutely I think the Godless of [Music] the [Music] spe [Music] that the she has to be repeated through the SE so just what we learned today each word of ding are extremely important that's that's the CL 12 it's not like mill that every word is basically you need a and when applicable and it can't be is not literally any change like by Milla it's limited and so is okay on a glutenfree roll is a on pass is good enough the onal both are okay instead of would not be he's not not he left out not someone knows differently please tell me instead of instead mentioned should also be most hold that PRI is okaya is is definitely needed by that's the because otherwise it's without is also no good the meaning of Y each follow their own meaning but definitely there's no problem of he the if a person did not add Mal when it's not supposed to be there it's hard to say he's not not it's not a it's not a to a person missed or didn't hear any of the important words or he could add it on his own if he didn't hear it add it but to make sure you don't miss any other words is isn't either one is enough the word is unless he said the irreligious person that has to make a br he could say it in English or Russian whatever it may be but make sure to have a valid shameem IFA a person wants to correct himself three words he could correct any wrong even he said he said the wrong anything as long as it's not just correcting it's replacing we had or as we said it's true both are true but basically we spere also you could correct even though it's wrong but only change if you have to to change it for to have the right order is wrong cuz later R you can't change if you made two mistakes as long as one was the other one he could correct it and as we said you count when you finish the wrong words if he pours to think what to do he lost the time span if a a person made left out the whole shabas until the very end they threw him by and during the rest of the year the ever he would be