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Why Knowing Torah Isn't Enough to Teach It | Reb Shlomo Carlebach on Bereshit

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La I Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Yeah. Heat. Yeah. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Yeah. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. I been thinking a lot uh a lot a lot lately. I think because of sukus probably >> it's about the artist actually >> I think because of sukot I've been thinking a lot lately about uh about Tom I mean Tom's always in the air but and then you asked me about that niggan so I want to sing one of the niggan of Tom's niggan one of his nigay I My own I am alone. My y I'm alive. You're my mama. My god. La. My I am a Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Mama my okay keep on playing all morning none of you would have a problem with that then I want to get to learn okay good morning everyone Ah um want to dedicate the learning today of my father-in-law Ben Miam and feel stronger and better immediately. Also want to welcome my dear Matt Caner who's with us for the bar mitzvah of his great nephew this coming Shabitz and of course his brother the Sabbah of the barit boy as well of course >> the whole family to be a beautiful shabas and we should bask in the light of of another boy coming to is a very very special thing that never ever gets old ever. So today uh we're going to do a piece of piece I've wanted to do for many years on the para. What page is it? Oh 38. This is from Evan Schlommo. This is a piece that I saw this year inside where it's sourced from. I'll give a little bit of a background. Beautiful, beautiful piece. The beginning of everything. It's a very very beautiful and a very deep thing. very deep concept. So the world always goes to cynicism. Not always but quite often quite often gets cynical whenever we talk about marriage. I'm not cynical. I'm married. you know, all these statements and the I mean the roots of it the roots of it all are are definitely found in Apok that could be very confusing because when Hashem turns to Adam Marishan and he says what' you just do. So his response is right. It's her fault. What you you know what happened. You gave me you know you gave me this wife and of course I'm going to listen to her and I and it's her fault and she she she's the blame. So what what what this piece does today does something so um it does something so beautiful in terms of redefining what that whole pisha was all about. And it get gives us an insight into what I believe could be a a very a very big opening for us to reinterpret how we understand anything that Hashem tells us. Anything that Hashem tells us. And the is talking to us all the time. Whenever we're learning, Hashem is talking to us. When we're davening, you could hear already speaking back to us. So this piece is based on a tyra from the buff of pedbush. This we we learned from him once before. Let me see a picture of him. He was a big one of the giants in Brussel from two generations ago. They put out now they have two two volumes of his safer shime and he I was debating whether to learn it just inside from here from his from this from his parish on the Tyra or to just see it how it was how interpreted it because here it just it extracts it out of here. Maybe one day we'll we'll if we have more time we could we could see this also inside but we'll reference it in in a second. He has a safer that's called on Shabas. And in on Shabas he basically it's a perish on on extra like all the all the incredible kayak that one can take out from every word of the para to give us more on for shabas. So the puk that we're going to be learning today is you know you know all this are there enough copies for everyone everyone has. Yeah I got to look inside today I mean every day but definitely today got to look inside. So, Hashem took Adam, he placed him in. And what did God command man? Right. So, from all the trees that are in the Gan, you shouldn't eat it. you should eat. But from the tree of knowledge, you shouldn't eat. Why? Because the day that you will eat from the tree of knowledge, you will die. Okay, that's the of the over here. He asked let's you know this is like an ishitz question what was really the sin so we've said it before many years like how do we understand it is said what was the sin of it wasn't that he ate the wrong tree >> it was that he thought that after you make an aa god's done with you and that is the real a vera which is mind-blowingly deep that that whole way of thinking is false and it's here. He's going to answer it differently. What was the sin? What was it? His answer is amazing. So, it's brought down in the in the when it says we should serve God with all our hearts. We all know this. What's a what's to to work in this world? What's that? That means service of the heart. Working of the heart is dvening. Whenever there's any mention in regarding a of it's always referencing to can you can someone if you don't mind I'm sorry to bother can someone bring I don't know four or five chairs it's it's here from the mish okay okay let's try to focus back inside again I mean you've heard this concept I mean this is noish to anybody thank you aod everyone's heard of before, right? That's not a I don't think it's aish for anybody, right? I always say and I I believe in this very strongly. Thank God that ding is not called. You know why? Because if I came to sh and I'm not feeling it in my heart, I'd be what is it called? If I come to show and I'm not feeling it, the wants me to think in the name of authenticity. I shouldn't be really working so hard on dabing right now because the harasha is not in the heart. Thank God ding is not called. It's called what's it's the buildup. It's the workout, right? It's a so we're working on our hearts because we don't naturally come into shul especially in normal weekdays where you're dropping after dropping off kids or a bad night's sleep and be like ah give b I'm feeling it it's not normally it's not usually how it is that's why it's called so look what he does with this this is a brilliant if there are more pages to give out to the in the back are there any Okay, this is what is saying. So when man heard the commandment not to eat from the tree of knowledge knowledge, he just thought this is a description of like what goes on there. He didn't think for a second that when God told me something, when God tells him that he should dive in over it to understand it better. He just looked at it as a proclamation from God. Visel now that may work for the individual that hears it directly from God. If God speaks directly to you, perhaps you don't have to dive in over it to understand so much in order to keep it. >> How do you give it over to someone else if they didn't hear it directly from God? Who heard the commandment not to eat from the tree of knowledge? >> Only. >> Only Adam, right? Where does Kava hear the commandment to not eat from the tree of knowledge? >> From Adam. And well that's that's that's separate over here. But he wouldn't have added thera had he actually not had he had he had ded over here over understanding. What's what what do you really mean over here? Now this has ramifications for our lives all the time. All the time. We'll see it in a second. So again, when Adam gave it over to Eve, what was he what did it sound like to Eve? It sounded so dry. >> It didn't sound like there was any because you can only give over Torah. This was a moment of him transmitting Torah, >> but you can only give over Torah to someone >> through. You can't give over Torah to someone just and and and expect them to be connected and understand it. If you're just saying this is it's never turned on anyone before from the moment of creation. But that's the greatness of that Abraham and heard from Abra >> which means that very good which must mean that when gave it over and we know this he was dabbling that those that walk up speaks about this he was stuck in such a contradiction on the one hand on the other hand and it seems It's like a contradiction between the two. So the the is saying really is saying was davening his heart out. What do you mean? What do you mean? What does it really mean? And what you pointed out is isa that he must have been ding the whole time because he gave it over to and it was and then what is it? What is the called a? No, it's called ak to show us the transmission of Torah that it went through because he davened over it. So for us quite what does that have to do with us? Quite often a lot of things that we that we are told to do or not to do weren't kvetched out. They weren't davened out. So they appear to us in our lives as proclamations as and at a certain point it's not going to I won't care too much about it because I need something much more than that in order for me to stay intact. Is it coming across yet a little bit? >> Is this on the level of proud like of of each particular mitzvah needs its own like corrects or >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. God can make many proclamations and I still won't I won't listen. There's only one way for me to really listen to Hashem. This is so deep. There's only one way for me to mish listen to Hashem and that is I have to dive in over what I learned. If I dive in over what I learn, then I will continue to listen and be connected. Now who came who was very big on making sure that you dive in over what you learn >> meaninges because obviously he he understood that if you're if you're going to walk away from Maran even without dvening over it. So you'll walk around knowing what says but at a certain point you'll stop caring. So what does he have him do put together in order to davin over what you learn. So I always thought like this is proclamations. It's Torah. But I need to to become what? When I write a when I dive in over the das that I have, that's what gets it into the heart. And I think that's what he's that's what he's building up over here. Yes. I'm just thinking if you apply this now to NASA NASA being a it takes what >> it's exactly that >> I'm saying >> so you have to the doing in this if we apply it this way is the shabilas now it makes sense the order the only way to listen >> the only way to listen >> theod >> the only way he says that I could actually stay there with in the relationship is if I dive in over what I'm told Why? Cuz I may know what God said and I may know what to tell someone, but the link of God's word is going to be broken at a certain point. By Adam and Kava, when did it break? Instantly, right away. He heard it directly from Hashem. He wasn't confused about it. The second he gave over a proclamation in the name of God to Kava, it wasn't strong enough. Obviously what you're going to see in a second how how this how this makes sense according to the puzz last eight because gave us the first two right >> he was up on the whole >> well if you and I are still yidden today he must have >> and we're living proof that he must have because if he didn't there's no way we would be sitting here there wouldn't beh wouldn't be a Torah in the world. >> And is that also like with the like >> 100% 100% and he's it's the it's the highest form of over there. Okay. Okay. So again, like we've learned, we learned a lot of things. But you know when you start crying over what you learn when your kid stops keeping Shabas and then you're sitting there crying. So then and then you're wondering what in the world did I do wrong? So, you know, I this is not a cloud for anyone, but it seems it's like saying, did I did I dive in over the way that I gave over shabas to my kid or did I just expect them to take my word the way I heard it from God and that would have been enough, right? It's like this in see this in many different areas >> says in kabala but you the children can't learn from their parents the exactly what it is it enough that I know there's a concept called shabas where shabas Shabas you all I just put you right now in John Goodman's mind I know but listen shabas right so listen like this it's like this did I ever dive in in order to understand and taste chabas no why why usually don't I >> because I'm under the assumption that I know what chabas is because I'm orthodox nothing could be further from the truth I know what the laws Right. But to taste to taste up at all doesn't necessarily mean that it's that's a given at all. At all at all at all. That's what he's saying over here. I could know there's a concept called chabas. I could know there's when was the last time someone cried over titsus. When was the last time we even thought about putting on situs? meaning you put out every morning. But with everything in our lives, there's which is what Hashem told Admirishan going into what's ding over what I'm telling you and then you and then you it's amazing and then you keep it. It's actually the flip. It's it's almost like a flip. There's five hands up now. I can't right now because we're have to go v there's it's almost like this amazing incredible reversal of things. He's saying means when you hear God's word, you have to instantly both dive in over it and also keep it right away if you want it to if you want it to last, if you want it to remain. It's almost like the same thing, not laavil, but I feel it because this is the matzah we're in is that there was a re there's an establishment of this modern state of Israel which is as we've been learning in this room for a long long time already is in dire need for tikun as taught us for for years already about right but for some people it's just taken listen there's a state it's a country there's whatever this interesting form of sovereignty is looks like right there's some kind of interesting sovereign thing going on but the dvening over Hashem what does this what is this gift that you gave us gave it back to us like what maz what is this thing I want to dive into understand it deeper we we'd be with so much so much less problems if we dive into over the things that hash we feel Hashem is mish telling us giving us and when you dive in over it it lasts and it doesn't remain a proclamation Right? Doesn't remain a proclamation. Let's go. He says that doesn't mean become a gardener, which is no dis at all. Gardeners are some of my favorite people, right? That's not what it meant. He means he wanted us to dive into him that we should d that we shouldn't be capable of eating the wrong fruit the equivalent of that in the world that's what it means when you hear an isser it's not just a okay now I know this is wrong it's that he wanted us to daven over that we shouldn't be capable apable of doing a veras we shouldn't be cable. uh in here. I had to look at it inside in the source. I didn't seen it in many years. And he says like this says that's how he says it. It must mean when hem says it must mean because the word says he got him. He took him. How did he convince him to come in with nice words and he seduced him to come inside the garden. What were the nice words that he used in order to get to go into Ghana? What does that mean? He gave him over the secret of his saying you really do you know how deep it's going to get with us if you come in here if you shamra if you keep on dinging over my words you're going to feel it only gets better it only gets deeper it you're only going to feel closer and that was the according to Rashi the way that he understands it the seduction the way that Hashem got admiration to come inside because he told him listen it's not a proclamation game that's not why I created the world so that I'm a judge I say what it is or I'm a governor I say what it is, how I govern, and then that's it. So again, that we just we just won't be capable. Like you ever dive into Hashem and the words weren't Hashem I'm sorry but the words were like please please that when I learn about your please may it be that I'm mish end up having noises and I know you created me with it's part of the game but part of me really wants wishes that I had no that there's not a there's not a mitzie and there's no there's no chance that I could ever end up dis you know disobeying him. >> Sorry. Isn't there we say well the Mishna in says but you know yeah I mean they put it into different feel but it's more than just that like make your will my will but it's it's more than that like but make it in such a way unless this is your kavana when you say this every day that you just quoted >> I I I I didn't think so. Right. So should mean like make it be your make your will be my will but to such an extent that I can't not listen to you that I I understand you in the deepest way and I can't not listen to you. Why? Because even if I still keep your word I can't transmit your word to someone else on the level that it will last by them. And what's the greatest proof and example of it right here? The first para in the Torah. The first two human beings. The first level of misora. This is the first level of misora of transmission of God's word. And right over here, it gets messed up right there when you think that it's just about a proclamation. Now he ends off this paragraph and saying, "But when God and when when Adam gave over to the commandment, it simply sounded like a proclamation." He ends off here. This is like to allim in the world and to allim that should not beim I I pray this this reach be there's there's a devastating epidemic of meim in yeshivas of people that should not be meim at all true >> it's a horrible epidemic that has horrific ramifications slaughtered families mamish that they these this these words that he say right now when I try to teach someone something else that I didn't dav in over he's being nice here he says it has no hashah I want to say oh it has a hashbah >> it has a horrific hashah horrific influence sometimes I hear people they saying they're talking about yiddish leaves only cold like ice. Not only cold like ice, I want to actually throw up. Why? Because if this is Yiddish, who needs this? Who needs this? And sometimes sometimes you you you hear from someone who is so poor in his knowledge that barely knows anything, but he knows one word of Torah on the level of it goes so deep into you. Why? That's the reason. How could it be someone such a and he leaves me cold like ice and then one guy barely knows anything. He says one word to me. You know when I was living in LA I met like this all the time. The that mish the one word the one word of Torah the one word Torah remember all the I would bring home sometimes like you know these people you ever learn uh rash that's like the chauffeur like guys nothing right but then you they they they learned one word on the level of and you're blown away and you're we meet these people all the I mean right now init is filled with like this in the Israeli scene not in the other scene. In the Israeli scene it's filled with like this he says over here how could it be that one person could say one word and it it puts me on such a fire because they must have davened over it. They must have heard something and they had a conversation with God and they did what he said over here. They add a little less and say what does this really mean? So I want you to know however this teaching is infinitely deeper than the way that we're trying to give it over right now. But I know that if there was one teaching that we would want to master for the sake of the homes that we're raising, it's this one. It's this teaching. One time a mother called me and said, "I don't understand. My sons in the she she raised her children in the states." So she started telling me how much money she she paid every year for the tuition. I don't understand. I must have been like, you know, a few children. It must have been like I probably my husband and I probably put like $350,000 into our into the elementary school. And the kid comes out of elementary school ready to go to high school. The second he got he he he he like realized he's a badass the keepa came off and the sisters came off and we don't understand we we sent them to all the school my husband worked so hard so that he could have Jewish education right and we see how the whole thing is bankrupt in it it's all bankrupt it's a bankrupt system because they're sending them to institutions that half the time mish half the time the people that are giving over God's word never davened God's word ami they were told you have a good cup you should be in that's what they were told when they were younger so they're thinking about parasa so they're thinking about parnasa so they'll they have a jab and it can even be holy because it's Torah Torah they're shakers sorry just experienced it with the certain misa recently there's shears they're slaughterers and it's a it's a it's such a bushpa that that schools would hire people that do such an adas transmission of of of of our whole thing is to have teachers of but remember the teachers may not necessarily know as much das Torah as the but I take them over them any day of the year and this is all coming from this in of how we understand this And in is the world of us being back and forth in a harmony and in oneness transmission of the son of Hashem in its purest form. But there's two words. It's based on and only then I guard the gili that I have from I guard it with me and then I dare open my mouth to give overem to someone else. Only then I have the to actually tell someone else what God said or what God means. Can you imagine if the prerequisite for hiring staffs in schools and institutions was this? It it'd be it'd be gone. Literally, it would be Ghana. Like literally speaking, be from and we should be back in the garden through fiery fiery.