Shlichus For Mishloach Manos - The Chasam Sofer's Lomdus Contrary to Rebbi Akiva Eiger

this Torah class is brought to you by Torah anytime.com okay good morning everyone uh uh we're already in so I want to share with you let's see if you could this okay there's a saer hak and the saer hak not from the Bal he brings from one of the Who quotes many are familiar that the Mish brings a cha of the B Who's the bov etlinger who regarding the MIT that since the says do you need to give it through we've spoke out in the past that if you read the Mish it sounds like the B has a legitimate suff whether you're required to give Shas through an agent so in other words let's say I go I get like uh these fancy Shas $500 shus now if your fancy shus has stuff in it that I can't eat so then you know save your money F fancy they're two things Shak is something that somebody's going to eat for a meal you know if it's fancy because it has like towels in it and cork screws and other things shoe shiners um other items cell phone chargers it's very these are all good items these are not Shas but the question is let's say you spend $500 for chus and I let's say I want to bring it over to my neighbor so I go over to Gordon or I go over to ra and I bring them a $50,000 shus and I hand it to them directly it sounds like from the miss the is whether you're or not actually if you look up the he's not he says you're you do not have to do it through but maybe maybe maybe the of implies you should send it through an agent but in his opinion it's more MRA the reason why the PK says is to teach that if let's say I send Gordon and he says I don't want your no thanks I'm still because I sent it he doesn't have to accept it that's how the ban concludes but somewhere in the discussion he has a possibility that maybe you have to send it and because of that that's how the Mish codifies it okay so according to the that you need to give and says you don't have to was to give one in deference to this of the okay but let's take the you have to give says I'm not sure could I send my kid he's 12 years old he's not a bar MIT Boy Can't Be Right could I ask my kid you know what that lady over there I I I I think I want to marry her give her money on my behalf and say har could a 12-year-old be no could could a um that's the question could you send shice through a Katon or could you send a gentile you know Uber has a great feature Uber deliver right it's it's very inexpensive it's almost like mailing sometimes if I have to send somebody a safer to go to the post office I have to they make me buy the envelope they make me buy the tape and I could do Media Mail which is very inexpensive but then Media Mail is guaranteed to come within the decade if you wanted to come in a day or two you have to pay like5 s it's already 10 bucks for Uber deliver for 12 bucks he has it in 10 minutes can I Uber deliver Shak Manus it's a gentile Ro vakum sometimes one time I had a guy who came with a yamaka but royak could you get a gentile reaber is mic whether you could use a cuton or an and brings that greater people than him made a very big mistake about this issue there it would be no reason in the world why a or an cannot be your could you think about think why by let's say like he has to have the ability to to do that in other words like if he went outside to prach Theus and then he marries the he what he married the woman yeah could he do that he could do that right he could do that but by by here the MIT the result of someone benefit if you put the M on the floor and then you tell the person to pick it up doesn't have to be it's the result it's the result the result is that receives your M's yeah but I have to do it so if I have to do it I don't do it because I gave it to somebody to do it for me and that somebody can't be me but it got there it got there so my my ring got to the lady yeah but but that's that's that's that's that's okay it's like s see it's like Saka because we only care about the result we don't care how it got there as opposed to Kadin it's not a din in the result It's A din in the okay so you ready for this okay you're saying good I want to be masar greater people than me seem to have made a mistake about this he's referring to his reer he says like this you could even send a monkey any you have anyone have a monkey in there yeah in Panama yeah to yeah when I went to Panama they I saw monkeys like this says RAR when you send a k or a or or an AK or a k are they a messenger of course they're a messenger the of is that messenger is me but a monkey can't be me and a cuton can't be me and a um an akum can't be me but they could still be a messenger so if the Tyra says send monise I sent it I sent it if the Tyra would say you give it so then I and I ask you to do it for me if you're a monkey or if you're a gentile or your your cut on then it wouldn't work because I have to do it and if I'm sending you you need to be able to become me and if you are not a you can't become me but by the nvi doesn't say I have to give it thei says I have to send it so I sent it by K I have to be the one marrying the woman so if I'm going to do it through an agent that has to be an agent that Al has the ability to become me what kind of agent has the ability to become me a Jew who's male over 13 years old but a akam or a Katan or a k cannot become me so therefore I just sent it you can't send kadan a man has to give a woman kadu so how can I give it to this guy the guy through the principle of becomes me but by if there's a on sending the Torah just says send it doesn't say give it if it would say give it it then I would have to give it to a God because he would have to become me but he doesn't have to become me because AK is specifically on a uh sending it so I sent it however there would be a very big if I send it through a Katon or I send it through a regular uh adult if I send it through a regular adult let's say I send Jonathan what's m m I said mik I say I want you to come all the way from Panama immediately to give shakas to Gordon do I have to send you a message hey did you do what I asked you to do no I don't have to check in with you why but if you send it with a kid anybody knows if you ask a kid to do something right what's the betting line what's the betting line on whether he's going to do it or not what's the over under on that not not that good yeah you know nineo spread whether the kid is GNA actually do it so you would not say so this is quoting who he does not agree with have a great day you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by Torah anytime.com