Shimru - Keep It! Melabno - Laundering, International Shabbos Project Learning Program

this tour class is brought to you by torahanytime.com okay good afternoon welcome back everyone nice to see everybody back again we're continuing in uh the malachas of Shabbos uh thank you for joining us hope everybody had a nice yum diff and uh we're continuing on in our journey of Shabbos so uh Brooklyn we're up to the malacha of malavnoy laundering which is the 13th Malacca winnowing plowing harvesting bundling threshing winnowing selecting grinding sifting kneading baking I believe we still have to do shearing but this week we're doing the 13th Malacca laundry so you're looking at me laundry who wants to do laundry well now you'll have to know why you don't do it on Chavez and uh but the the excuse will only work for you for Shabbos the rest of the week you're gonna have to come up with something else um where was laundry done in the mishkan they had laundromats in the mishkan they had uh washing machines and the Mish gun so they shared the wool of the sheep now the wool of the sheep was uh knotted it was dirty it was clumped and the preparing the wool you needed to bleach it so that the wool would be clean and white okay so that is where the Melaka was done in the mishkan so in the mishkan they also they did laundry in the mishkan so now let's get down what is the what is the talda and what are the Israel okay this is just uh in a general sense one who does laundry on wool linen red string or anything which is generally laundered one is how much laundry would obligate one and it would incur one in a violation of Shabbos in other words let's say somebody just washes one sock is that considered uh doing laundry on Shabbos so the rambam says if you take um launder even enough thread that you could spin the length of foreign in other words there you're not going to find the Garment that is small is too small for the sheer so basically even if you wander one thread that's foreign you're going to be high if that is laundry but even if you're not doing laundry let's say you know you're not using your your washing machine or you're just washing something in the sink the rambam says one who washed his clothing in a sink it's a Toda of malabin and your hive likewise if you squeeze out a wet garment until the water comes out that is for laundry so you say who does laundry on Shabbos well right now in New York it's pouring and if you wear let's say um a raincoat on Shabbos and you come home and before you uh enter your your the door you stand on your front porch and you take the rain coat and you wring it out you just did laundry on Chavez laundry I didn't use uh uh detergent no no the same way the rambam says stirring is a need of cooking squeezing is part of the laundry process so squeezing out wringing out wet clothing is a malacha of is now what about hair we're going to talk about somebody goes to the Mikvah on Shabbos you know they want to squeeze out their hair there's no shrita in here or in leather but as we're going to see there's no srita de irisa but there is on on here okay so these are the tall dice what about the Israel so says the rambam you can take cloth or Fabric and stuff up your bottle let's say you have a bottle of wine and you say isn't it a shame I open my bottle of wine if I leave it uncovered overnight it's not going to taste the same the next day and you don't have a cork you don't have a bottle stopper you want to take a wet rag so not only that you're not allowed to put a dry rag into the flask you know how to put a dry rag or some kind of cloth into the flask because you might come to wring it out another thing you can use a sponge on Shabbos unless the sponge has a handle lest you come to squeeze it you also can cover a barrel with a garment lest you come to squeeze it out so these are all is of laundry furthermore if let's say you have mud on your clothing the rambam says if you have mud on your clothing this is very important Allah we're going to see it in the gemara coming up you got um someone dropped some chillant on your on your suit you are participating in the highlight of Shabbos the Kiddush and yes the guy passed me the cholant and the guy dumps half the plate of chilland on your nice new suit and it's gonna be embarrassing you know it's uh you're making a simcha and you don't want to have a piece of kishka permanently stuck to your suit pants so that the gemara says like this and the ramam quotes it you are allowed to scrape it off from the inside not from the outside the inside means if let's say you get your the stain on the outside of the suit you cannot scrape it off you can't rub it from the outside but from the inside you could stick your hand in and somehow rub it from the inside and we're gonna see not so fast whether you're even allowed to do that but that's the simple reading of the gamara and the the rambam says you're allowed to scrape it with your fingernail again this is from the outside and you don't have to worry that you might launder however says a rambam if you're gonna rub a scarf that's forbidden because it widens it however a shirt your ladder rub because you just have a mind to soften it okay these are all general principles and we're gonna get uh some of the uh details of what to do La Mesa um let's see another important issue somebody washed himself with water are you allowed to dry your hands with the towel say uh maybe not because I can't get the towel wet I can't uh wet the towel how long it is if you want if you want yourself with water you could dry yourself with a towel you could carry it in your hand and we're not worried you're going to wring it out the rambam says a person who his clothing became soaked are you allowed to continue walking with them or are we worried you're gonna squeeze out your shirt squeeze out your pants you're allowed to continue walking with them however this is important you got stuck in a rainstorm and you come home and you're drenched are you allowed to hang up your clothing to dry on the laundry line outside or in your laundry room on the clothesline you're not allowed to hang it up to dry why because it gives the appearance that you did laundry this is very important now there are those who give a leniency if it's a suit that you don't put in a washing machine you just send it to a dry cleaner then you might be allowed to hang it up on the laundry line because nobody would suspect you did laundry because nobody puts their suit into the washing machine now if you're the guy who saves money on on uh the cleaners and you're a little bit of a cheapskate and you don't like sending your suit to the cleaners and you put it in the washing machine then if your suit gets wet you cannot hang it up to dry on Chavez where you would normally hang up laundry what do you do with it I don't know uh leave it around the chair hang it up in your closet but you can hang up in other words wet clothing you cannot hang to dry on Shabbos where you would normally hang laundry because it gives the appearance that you did laundry on Shabbos okay so with that introduction let's see some of the gemaras the Rashi says that washing clothing is and that is the malacha of laundry in other words according to Rashi there's no difference between laundering or washing clothing they're both the AV malacha of malabin the rambam says no the avmalacha is kibos is excuse me is malabane is uh laundering and macabre's washing is a talda but this is more semantics in other words what's the oven what's the Toda but either way they are both the irisa okay now let us see the mishnah the Mishra staff members Ahmad base says as follows the mission says like this if let's say you were walking under the train tracks back to Brooklyn if you walk onto the train tracks you're in danger of emerging full of bird dropping that's just the way it is in New York probably in London it's the same thing and I don't know where everyone here is from but let's say a bird uh drops an offering on your nice suit on Shabbos what do you do so the uh the mission that says with a rag however if it's made out of leather leather you could even pour water on it which by the way implies that leather is not subject to laundry in other words it says you're allowed to pour water on the leather now there's a question that's what the mission says in Shabbos the mishna seems to imply laundering is not applicable to leather however there's a mission of says that uh regarding washing leather of which blood of a carbonghata spilled I think about it says well wait a second that implies that there is laundry by leather and the gemara then quotes Apostle in this week's Parsha I forgot to bring a hummus to this uh to this year let me see if I could get one very quickly here we go the gemara cites a posse from this week's parisha that proves that leather clothing is subject to laundry peric yield gimmel foreign garment that you wander oh so we see from here that laundry is possible by leather I the mission on Shabbos says you're allowed to pour water on a dirty leather clothing item of clothing because laundry is not applicable to Leather So question but the plastic says laundry is applicable to rub to leather says the gemara the following principle call kibos De lesliebus anytime you just use water and you don't rub it that's not laundry and therefore you're allowed to put really leather is subject to laundering so why allow to pour water on dirty leather because you're not rubbing it and if you don't rub it that's not that does not constitute laundry I saw a baguette also if you have a wet if you have a dirty garment you should be allowed to pour water on it says the gamar no clothing is different non-leather is different SRI also isai this is a major rule in Hillcrest laundry getting a garment wet is laundering it wetting a garment is laundry wait a second then it comes out I shouldn't be allowed to wipe my hands and dry my hands on a towel according to this rule soaking a garment soaking an item is laundering so we're going to focus on this rule of soaking an item is laundering let's learn the gomoran Yuma I insign them in base gemara says someone who's walking to greet his father or his rebbe or someone greater than him is he allowed to walk through water on Shabbos to greet his revi to greet his father Yes says the gemara one is the latter walk through a river on Shabbos to greet your Rabbi to greet your father out of respect Rashi says what's the problem what could possibly be usher in walking through the river says Rashi dotigamara means is don't be concerned for the the isser of bathing however says toys Swiss forget about bathing what about getting your clothing wet doesn't the gemara say in Yuma that excuse me doesn't the gemara say in Shabbos that uh andaf uh Sadi dalid that sriasa is getting clothing wet is laundry in other words how are you allowed to walk through a river to greet your father and rebion Shabbos but you're going to be wetting your clothing you're now to cause clothing to get wet that's con that constitutes laundry that is the Kasha of toysus and Shabbos kofior aleph Ahmad base again the question is since we have a principal shriyasa isai soaking a garment is laundering it so in that case how you'll add a walk through River on Shabbos to greet someone greater than you to create your rebbe to greet your father but you're laundering the clothing so tysus gives two answers answer number one the only time we say the rule that wetting a garment is laundering it as if the Garment is dirty but if the Garment is clean getting your clothing wet is does not constitute laundry so Texas in the first answer says yes there's a rule laundering a garment is considered so I'm wetting a garment is considered laundry but that's only the garment's dirty if the Garment is clean then wetting it is not considered laundering it and therefore if I were to ask you if you wash natal sidiaman Shabbos and you want to wipe your hands in a towel are you allowed to do it and the answer is from a medical standpoint that's the worst thing you could do to ever wipe your hand in a towel why think about it you just cleaned your hands and then you're taking a towel that everybody in your family deposited their billions of bacteria and now you are collecting it for yourself so it is always recommended to use a paper towel and not a towel towels were used in America 25 years ago most people don't use towels anymore when I leave America towels are still in Vogue that's because they didn't discover germs yet in many countries but it's highly unrecommended by the way this message it does not necessarily reflect the view of shimru this is just my own personal uh um recommendation but anyway all kidding aside if let's say you use a towel and um are you allowed to wipe your hands on a towel on Shabbos so according to the first answer of Texas um you would be allowed to wipe your hands on a towel you're only not allowed to wet a garment if the Garment is dirty if the Garment is clean then you're allowed to wet it according to the simple reading of the garage you would not be allowed to wipe your hands on a Talon Chavez but according to tices is uh innovated that the prohibition of wedding a garment is only if the Garment is dirty not if the Garment is clean and then Tyson says another point entices quotes the re who found the corrected safer hayasha ravenotam that the rule of shriyasa isai is only if you do it in a way which resembles laundering but if you do it in a way where it looks more like you're dirtying the Garment then cleaning the Garment that is permitted so for example when you wash natil siodium and you're wiping your hands dry on the towel it doesn't look like you're cleaning the towel it looks like you're dirtying the towel which by the way is another reason I remember when I was in Yeshiva 20 years ago they had one towel on a roll and that towel remained wet from September until Purim and basically from that towel anything that anyone in the Yeshiva had everyone in the Yeshiva had so it was always a recommended my practice was never to dry my hands I would sit there like this for like 10 minutes after until okay but towels are a big No-No unless you want to have towels for every single person yeah back to that topic again but the second is like this that wedding or garment is not considered laundry unless you do it kibos but if you do it Derek where it looks like you're dirtying the Garment it's permitted so the bottom line is like this if you have a spill somebody spills water all over the floor are you allowed to throw a towel on it to soak it up or do we say wedding a garment is the laundering it so according to the first answer of tysus is only if the towel is dirty if the towel is clean then you're allowed to according to the second answer of toxicity you're also allowed to because it doesn't look like you're laundering the towel looks if anything it was like you're dirtying the towel okay La Mesa the uranium says the third answer the uranium says you can never wet a garment on Shabbos even if the Garment is clean and even if it looks like you're dirty in the Garment ah so what would the uranium say you should do if your hands are wet after until Shabbos he would say you should resemble a uh a what is it called a hummingbird and you should uh draw your hands that way but you may not dry your hands on a towel on Shabbos I the gemara says that you're allowed to walk through water on Shabbos to greet your rebbe I but it says Iran was talking about a guy who's wearing a leather jacket and leather pants so leather there's no issue of wedding but if you're wearing a regular suit you can't do it so you say uh oh do we poskin like the safety or him I never heard of people who are a mockbit not to wipe their hand on a towel and I have to say I don't have a great mnemonic for you how to remember that Sim and shinbase are the laws of laundry I thought maybe the word sub Summit has something to do with bubbles but I don't think so so maybe I'll leave it up to you maybe someone uh one of the sadikim in this khaburra could come up with a good mnemonic to help remember that laundry are in 302 ways to clean your clothing yeah I don't think that's gonna work okay so the sugar not passes like this someone who white watches his hands you should dry them against these you rub them together or to get off the water before you wipe them why because you don't want to put too much water on the towel cesarama don't worry Aviation some say you have to be concerned because in such a situation first of all the towel is clean and second of all it's Derek um says the mission of the narak is like the safety uranium and the Ramos says no it's not a problem there are more quartz ptosis is two answers by the way in Sif tests and the Mr Bruce says don't get a garment wet on Shabbos unless you do so in a way that dirty zit in other words if you want to just somehow pour water on a sewn shirt like this you want to have a you want to get someone wet so you take a cup by the way this Zoom is so real that if I Spritz throw this water at you you're gonna get wet no just joking okay just wanted to see if you're paying attention but if let's say on Shabbos you want to surprise your future son-in-law let's say your future song is coming for Shabbos and you want to test him so you take out a water gun and you start shooting his shirt which by the way is highly unrecommended especially the first time you meet your future son-in-law it's not recommended to shoot him with a water gun but you should not do so for besides the obvious reasons for shabba's reasons namely you're now to get her shirt wet because you're not SRI unless you do it in a manner which you're dirtying it like where you're wiping your hands in other words what you'd be allowed to do is go over to your future uh son-in-law shirt and wipe your hands on it afternoon also by the way highly unrecommended but that would not be a Shabbos issue that would just be a fat a familial issue which uh is beyond the scope of this year so bottom line is we possible like this one should avoid wet wedding clothing on Shabbos unless you do so but if it even gives the appearance that you're not doing it in a way that's dirtying the the item one should avoid doing so okay now let's talk about hair on Shabbos are you allowed to squeeze out here on Shabbos so the camera base talks about the following case you have a mother she's giving birth and she needs oil what they needed oil for beats me you know I don't know back in the day they needed oil to give birth so how are you going to get oil through those just harabum so the midwife um has an issue so she should bring it in her hair the gemara says in her hair how she's going to give it to the woman giving birth she's gonna squeeze it out so cigar says what do you mean uh that but there's and it says well you're allowed to do that because there's no squeezing out when it comes to hair and then nigamara says even if there is means to say is you put you put it in a cup in the hair of the lady and you position it in the hair that's what it means but not literally to pour uh oil into the hair of the Midwife because there's a question whether or not Rashi explains what um so the answer is you're right is it's only the drop button because uh that's not a typical way to carry it's talking about there's no choice the woman needs the oil so you you carry it by she has a very stiff hairdo and you could stick a a cup into her hair and you're right it's carrying but it's not carrying the direction as much as possible we try to avoid carrying in a usual way we prefer to do it in an unusual way but the bottom line is the gamar says the rambam says the same thing would apply uh to to leather there's no srita in leather however a midrabanon there still would be srita and therefore the missionboro recommends if you go to the mikvan Chavez or if he gets stuck in a in a rainstorm and you want to squeeze out your hair you can't do it you know you just sort of let it dry on its own so here's the question you've all been waiting for the most practical halacha on Shabbos the guy who spills chillant on your suit and what do you do about it the guy next to you he is notorious he's a very uh Messy eater you don't want to get within uh you this guy most people practice social distancing from him well regardless of whether you're vaccinated even if you had Pfizer moderna J and J you want to be six feet away from this guy because he's slinging his children all over the place and sure enough the six foot uh social distancing didn't help this guy was successful in slinging his trolling 10 feet across the table and it got on your brand new laundered uh dry clean suit and tie and shirt what do you do now is there any way to remove it so we're going to more than getting the Practical a few points of lambdas in when it comes to laundry on Shabbos first let's get the gemara and Zion the gemara says like this if you have a Talus you have a article of clothing and it gets dusty and you want to know if you give it a nice hard shake so that the dust shakes off yes says the gemara only if it's new but if it's old it's not a problem says the gamara only if it's black but if it's white it's not a problem because if it's white nobody saw the dust in the first place and only if you're macbid however it comes out like this toyra and you know you were dancing up a storm and you have dust all over the bottom of your suit and it's a nice suit and you want to look good for minha so you want to take that that suit pant and stick it out the window and give it one of those whew hard shakes that you hear the the snap in the Wind you're not gonna do that on Shabbos now if you wear a white suit if you're uh told us Aaron has it or a Brussels you're wearing white you allowed to shake it out because nobody knew that your suit was dirty but if you're wearing a nice black suit you're an American you're European you wear a black suit on Chavez and you want to shake it out you can't do it Rashi this is I just told you the gamara coin tarashi Rashi learns that the gemara is saying that if you shake dust off a suit on Shabbos that is laundry you hear this that's laundry no washing machine no detergent no water just you your suit and your backyard you want to give it one shake the halacha is that is an Israel according to Rashi comes tices what are you talking about you're not using water you're not using detergent that's not laundry says toys is what we're talking about here is your suit got wet and you want to shake it out from the water that's laundry but shaking out from dust is not laundry that is let's discuss rashi rashi holds if you shake off a black suit from dust that is laundry midorisa apparently Rashi holds you don't need detergent and you don't need a washing machine laundry could be done just you and your garment but we have the following question the gemara says in Shabbos amarav Kahana mud that got on your suit you're allowed to scrape it from the inside remember we started with this you're allowed to stick your hand on the inside and wipe it out but uh to to rub it from the outside or scrape it from the outside you can't do why not um says Rashi why you let us scrape it from the inside it doesn't look like laundry when you do it from the inside I forget what it looks or doesn't look like but you're cleaning it and it is laundry says Rashi it's not laundry because you're not using detergent and if you don't use a liquid it's not laundry so we have a styro and rashi rashi on dafkuff mem Zion says you're now to shake off your suit from dust because that's laundry apparently you don't need to use water and Rashi says that you're allowed to scrape your suit from the inside because it's not laundry because you're not using water make up your mind if you if you know if um cleaning without water is not an issue then why are you not allowed to uh shake out a Dusty garment this is the question of none other than the mishnaburra in Sim and shin base and the Charlotte says the following this is not similar to shaking off a Talus from dust because when you shake off a black garment you cause the Garment to shine to get clean and that's how you fix it however says the mission abura to clean chilland from the inside where at the end of the day you're still going to have a residue on the outside that's not laundry because you're not using water in other words Sesame when you're shaking your garment out of from dust where you're really getting the garments clean and new and it will have a a fresh look that is laundry even though you don't use Liquid but when you're cleaning from the inside that is permitted because there's still a rosham of the in other words you're now to remove the dust because there's going to be no Remnant that's when it's a a problem even though you don't use water and olives talking about using cleaning mud where usually you'll use a liquid otherwise there's going to be a stain and since there's going to be a stain it is permitted however there's still another issue meme was traveling to of saffron he asked him about rubbing and softening a linen shirt the used to be after you did laundry your the clothing was very stiff so they would rub it afterwards to soften it and the gemara says it depends if you're rubbing it to generate whiteness that is prohibited this implies it is also to do laundry even without any detergent or liquid and the children of poskins based on this and Simon Shin base of hay a robe or a shirt after laundering is very hard and they would uh generally rub it with their hands to soften it uh that's permitted but a sudar a scarf you cannot rub it because your intention is to whiten it to give it a fresh look and that is prohibited so from here we see that anytime you're cavana is to whiten a garment you're not allowed to do it so then why is the halacha which means again the gemara is saying if you rub a hard garment but you want to whiten it that is laundry so then why are you only not allowed to shake off a Dusty garment if it's black if you're macbid if it's a special material any action that is done to clean clothing should be prohibited even though you're not doing laundry and the beer halacha says in fact any time you do an action that is intended to clean and produce whiteness and clothing that is prohibited and by the way says when you're shaking off garment you're not doing an action of laundering you're just removing a stain you're shaking off dust you're not doing an action of whitening if you're just shaking something off then it depends if it's a black clothing and if you're a macbid but if you rub the Garment one with it to remove a stain to improve to improve the appearance according to everyone that is considered laundering and like the gemara says if you rub a scarf that it to bring whiteness that is uh ulcer and therefore the mission bura argues on the Taz and we'll end with this the Taz writes that if somebody poured cholant on your suit and you're just scraping from the inside there's no real dirt it's just removing the remnant of a image of a stain it's just a little bit of a maybe discoloration the Todd says you're allowed to do it says the mission of my opinion you can't do it because anytime you do an action to clean whiten improve the appearance of a garment that is considered laundry like the case of the scarf where you rub it together to whiten it to clean it that is prohibited by the way the kusai agrees with the Tas and the toy says that if you have a stain on the Garment you could rub it from the inside just to remove the remnant of the stain I what about the fact that you're now to rub a scarf here says the choice is talking about after washing it where they would normally rub it so that it whitens and it brightens and that's the Final Act of washing but in the case of mud where you usually use Liquid if you just rub it from the inside it is permitted bottom line is we go like the is of the opinion that one should not um sort of remove a stain from their suit not from the outside and not from the inside but you'll say it's not covered abrios well your badge of honor on Shabbos will be according to the mission bura where somebody will see you have a little stain on your on your uh suit and people will see that more important than wearing a perfectly Immaculate suit is perfectly observing the laws of kibos on Shabbos so that is an important regarding shaking off a Dusty garment so that is like um tysvis that the isser of shaking off a garment is only shaking a wet garment from the water that's observed absorbed in it and the sugar now says because shaking is like is good like laundry in my opinion not only is it us or to shake off a wet garment it is also to shake off a Dusty garment so the Macabre is lenient I I'm sorry I don't know if spider them are lenient like the mahaber but ashkenazim are certainly mahmir that we do not shake off Dusty garment on Shabbos I would assume star de marmeko like the shita of the mahaber that for them it would be more lenient to shake off a Dusty garment for ashkenazim we go like drama that one cannot shake off a Dusty garment on Shabbos however the mission Brewer says that in deference to the mahadur who holds your a ladder Shake of a Dusty garment on Shabbos if your garment is Dusty on Shabbos you could call a guy and ask the guy to shake off your dusty garments so in other words if you have a new suit and maybe you're making a simcha and you're not really into telling your mahuten ah by the way you like my badge of honor my fully dusted suit oh you think it's nice to have a clean suit I think it's nice to have a dirty suit and observe the mishnaburra also that might not be the most recommended course of action in your first encounter with your new mercutanum and therefore you could rely on the mission of bura the mission of Brewer says you can ask a guy to shake out the suit and this way you know maybe you'll break it here that your badge of honor is um a dirty suit by the the grandchildren's afroof but not by the not by the children's offer anyway for ashkenazim certainly we do not shake off a Dusty garment you could ask a guy to do it for you relying on the shitan if you have a stain the opinion of the Tas and the opinion of is that you would be able to rub it out from the inside but the mission Brewer is and that's what we follow the opinion of the mission bura and this all um so again if you have a spill in your house and you want to throw a towel on it so that would be permitted because we say that's Derek look as long as it's not a tremendous amount of water one uh is not allowed to wet a garment even with a tremendous amount of water then there's a shot she might squeeze it out so in such a case you might have to sort of bring a number of towels and not wet each one in a tremendous way okay rabbosai that's why it's better to eat cholant on your own table and uh maybe wear a bib or maybe uh we're a Tish Becca sha and this way you'll keep yourself clean Rabbi Sai have a great job it's good to see everybody back we'll pick it up as a sham next week same time thanks so much says in the notes a dirty shoe you can clean it uh a rabbit clean with water isn't that surely washing um so where does it say in the notes which page four and you get to the third paragraph in English it says it is the mitted to rub it clean with water surely that's washing so again that's so that's the words of the rambam but based on uh the way the mission bura comes out based on the mahabarama you won't be allowed to do that how could the rambam say that are you on the top of page four oh I I think it's because it's leather and so since it's leather um the the gemara says leather without rubbing water on leather is not kibas in other words uh with water I don't know the gemara says you're allowed to use water on leather what exactly you're allowed to rub it with not sure but but then the ramen says but you can't wash it before you're using your hand if you've got nothing there your hand is also technically leather so maybe you're using another people right I I can't tell you clearly what the difference in parameters of your ladder rub it but you know how to wash it but in other words it would come out according to the rambam if your shoe is dirty if you got mud on your shoe you could pour water on it maybe even you could brush it off the wet or the water with your hand but to then clean it to to continuously remove the dirt that would be prohibited but yeah it sounds like from the rambam if you have mud on your shoe you could pour water on it but whatever a level is considered cleaning that you would not be able to do okay everyone have a great day you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com