Sherry Cask: Reb Moshe’s Teshuvah

The topic of the last several weeks in has been the of and the raid. We've gone through many of the interesting historical and contemporary Shilas and controversies that surrounded this general topic as it relates to today's raid. And this is going to be more than just one part. I think it's good to talk about maybe the subcategory with the headia in this genre and that is cherry cask whisies. So by way of background there are certain whisies specifically scotches that are aged and matured in cherry casks. Now what exactly is a sherry cask? A sherry cask is a cask where previously sherry wine had been aged. What exactly is sherry wine? Sherry wine is a certain type of wine that is unique to Spain. Specifically, it comes from wine country in Spain which is known as deaf fonta. So cherry wine by definition comes from that region in the country of Spain. Now, the history of why the Scotch makers would use cherry casks in order to age their wine is because once upon a time the English and the Scottish, who obviously were the big Scotch producers, used to import their wine from this sherry region in Spain. And the way the Spanish would export their wine, the way they would ship it was in casks. So, they wouldn't bottle it and ship it in bottles, but rather they would ship it in the cask. So the English and the Scotch would receive these huge oak casks and they didn't have anything to do with it. Now they were scotch makers. So they said you know something 1 plus 1 equals two. Let's take these casks and let's start using them to age and to mature our scotches. The kakav. So really it was just by happen stance just punct worked out that they had a need and suddenly the supply came in their direction and they would begin aging and maturing their scotches in these casks that previously had the cherry wine inside of it. Now as time went on the logistics of how exactly the English and the Scots would import their wine changed. The logistics of how the Spanish would export their wine changed. Most wine was being imported from different places. Wine that was being exported was usually being exported like it is today in bottles, not anymore in casks and in barrels. And as a result, the Scotch makers no longer had these empty cherry casks to use. And they did what they traditionally would have done, and that is they started using good old-fashioned oak casks, and that's the way they stored and aged their whiskey. But it seems that a lot of their customers weren't happy, and they felt that something was missing a little bit. there was something a little bit more taim a little bit more gishmach with the oldfashioned way of the way that these scotches were matured and it was for that reason some of the scotch makers not all but some of the scotch makers said that we're going to be they went back to the way things were done once upon a time and they came up with clever ways to recreate the sher cask and that's where they would store their scotches and really up until today in 2025 there's yeseshv yesesh there are some scotch makers ers that yeah once upon a time was storing their scotches in cherry cass but that was only because it was very practical now that it's not practical in fact it's very impractical also a lot more expensive so why do that there were other scotch makers that wanted to keep the old tradition they want to satisfy their niche customers and till today they're still storing they're aging they're maturing their scotches in these cherry casks the most notable perhaps of all the certainly high-end scotch makers that stores their scotch in cherry casks is Macallen's but it's not uniquely Macallen in fact it's a little bit more popular than you might think now what does it have to do with the sugis that we're learning it's because really right out of the gate you would think that this would pose an incredible hak issue the reason is because to the extent that the scotches are sitting for years by the way inside these sherry casks which have in them blas of sherry wine which is stamenum. You would think that now the scotch that you're drinking is going to have blas of stamenum inside of it. And as a result we have to sit down and take out our yoa calculators, roll our sleeves up and figure out whether or not this is a problem or not a problem. But it's fair to assume that there's an ingredient inside this scotch that is 100% forbidden to eat. that's forbidden to drink and based on that to just go to your local uh wine seller # yontiff and buy a mall I don't know if he sells it or doesn't sell it but either way to go ahead and to buy it is not going to be posh at all and the reason is because there's going to be some ingredients inside of it that's potentially a very very big problem and this is really the background of the sharic cask tuml now if you know one thing as it relates to the mice of shar cast this probably what you know that Feinstein wrote a truth about it and in his tru he came out that it's muted to drink sherry cask whiskey stating that his classic caveat and that is benef one of the great misnomers of all time because number one didn't write one chuva on this topic he actually wrote three chuas on this topic but more importantly ly Ramosa never wrote a chuva about sherry cask whiskey wrote a chuva about something that is fundamentally similar to sherry cask whiskey but at the same time it's also very very different now when you learn the suga of shar cask whiskey you have to start with the chuva fora there's no question because again it's on some level very very similar but at the same time you can't learn moisha see [snorts] what his maso was which Again, we already gave it away. It's say, "Oh, so now should I drink Mall?" Well, it's because Ramosa never wrote a chuva about Sherry cask whiskey. So, what exactly was the chuva that Ramosa wrote if it wasn't sherry? I mean, it sounds like it's what was it and why did say mutes? That is going to be the topic is of today's rabbi. That's in the next raid by we're going to do part two which is going to be the real sharcast. So as much as the chuva that we're going to talk about right now is not a chuva related to sharcast. Again you can't start the suga without going through this chuva. Besides it's from the most famous chuvas in mocha that no one ever learned. So I think it's to sit down and learn really three chuvas from and these are infam which is just a little bit of background to this chuva. Number one it was written in tough it was written in 1948. So just a little bit of context in terms of when exactly it was written. It was written to the guy of Elizabeth, New Jersey. Hagen Hagodites Rapinhas Tites writes to Raosha that there are certain wines where or I should say there are certain scotches certain whisies where the whiskey maker takes a little bit of wine and he mixes it together with the whiskey and people are buying this whiskey maybe not even realizing that there's a little bit of wine inside of it. So he writes to Mosha that he figured out a way to get the whiskey makers to replace the wine with ingredients that are kosher ingredients. And he's writing to this that he did writes back to that what you did is incredible. But your premise that you're making in what it is you did, your huskos and your mikv that you're writing to me that the whiskey that has in it a little bit of tar is going to be a problem is not something that's part at all and I think it's to sit down. Let's write a truig on this. Let's figure out if this is in fact going to be the case. So Ramosa sits down and he writes true and he says as follows. From the information that he was given it seems like the amount of wine that was put into these whisies was up to not to exceed but up to 2 and 1.5%. So up to 2 and a half% meaning 140th of the overall scotch could have stam inside of it. So this 40 times of yen of scotch of whiskey can egg the wine. Now at first glance you would say that that's a problem. The reason that's a problem is because we know that anytime there's a tar of is of how much hat do you have to have connect in order for this to be mut you would need 60 you would need and being that you have 40 so the ratios don't add up and as a result it would seem at first glance to be dead on arrival stating that this is really not posh at all the and this is in the sug as follows If somebody has and he wants to go ahead now and dilute it with water so it should lose its time says the how much water would there have to be so that now the water would have the ability to be the says the if you never heard this before this may come as a shocker you would have to have six times of water the wine is you have six times water this wine right now is going to be so that if you're being wine, which by the way, but the point is if we're discussing now a how much water would there have to be in order to be it's not 60, which is what it traditionally is, but rather it's now the to is a it's a it's coming up in a few dolphin that gumar is a cryptic is actually a big how to learn the gam some learn the g that we're not even mentioning the way the brings it meaning it's this and that is that the sheer of is not but rather it's the behind it is that once you have six times water connected yen it's not y anymore yen is a very very unique beverage so that if you're able to maintain the right proportions, it's going to be considered wine. The minute there's too much water, the minute it's too diluted, it doesn't have anymore. And as a result, is not going to apply. But the bottom line is it's so it's interesting the over here in doesn't say anything. However, earlier in this is 11 earlier, it's in so says as follows as it relates to diluted wine as long as it tastes like wine, it's going to be stating that says that those are if you have six times water the says that even though the seem be a little bit unsure, right? He's vucking a little bit. He brings two says like over there nobody is. But the bottom line is what emerges is that clearly says And even though the brings but the already spoke out that the didn't say anything about what said. So the bottom line is says really the starting point of this is not do I have the starting point is do I have shisha and if I have shisha then that in of itself would be okay. So as it relates to this blended yayen saraf where the whiskey makers were taking a little bit of wine and they were pouring it into the scotch even though there's only 40 times of scotch ka the wine and ordinarily you need shishim so you would think it's on arrival it's actually just the opposite 40 is really a lot more than you need because the magic number is not 60 the magic number is six like un like the as well and if that's the case there's no question in the world you would have a stating that it's really not so and the reason it's not so posh it is because there's another is several earlier 21 earlier this is in the over there says as follows and he was talking about different juices that somebody might buy from vinegar that a person might buy from buy it if it's being sold for the price of wine. And the reason is because we're concerned that maybe there's a little bit of wine. Meaning juice is not supposed to cost what wine costs, right? That's uh pretty obvious. And if somebody goes to buy uh apple juice and he's paying um you know $80 and he's told that it's a 2010 apple juice, well something's a little bit off here, right? Something's a little suspicious. You have to be concerned that there might be a little wine there AND SAYS DON'T BUY IT BECAUSE IT COULD BE WHAT YOU'RE buying now has a says unless there's 60 times of whatever this drink is to be whatever wine there might be in there. If there's going to be to be it's going to be okay of an artish said I thought when it comes to being you don't need what you need is and even though the raises in but the already said we know the day is like the and that's the so why would the over here say unless there's I thought the magic number when it comes to be why is he being so why is he saying you have to say have so the T has a beautiful the says that if you know the of this it's a the to this is a the said this caveat regarding this now the happens to be of the opinion that if you're being shish is not enough you need and the reason is because the learns that we learn yet differently than the way some of the learn there's no when it comes to that there's something called and is not something you're going to need the is on the list of that hold that when it comes to even of you would have to have so says the it's a little bit but I think you have to say that the rama who was quoting the quoted the he quoted the exactly the way the said it and being that the That's why he said but the ra was a little bit like duck meaning he knew that we so then really you don't need a shishim all you need is a bit of so why would he have said the reason is because he's quoting the hold you need but that's all the what we would hold being that we hold that is that you would only need six so either say shishim before you need a shish because he just called in the mai and in the mai's world you would need shishim and that's why the ram says shishim but alapam says the even though at first glance it sounds like from this that is really absolutely not take a look at take a look at from those places we know already that the is not it's why did say because he's quoting a why would say if the rather told that the is we like the so we don't pass in like the we wouldn't pass in here too [laughter] but rather what we would pass in is this is the stating that the which are his on the says this is so to learn that says that it means and he's simply quoting the even though It's inaccurate. I find that very very hard to believe. What's going on over here? I thought that the when it comes to it's not says the inf and that is you have to say there's a between someone who dilutes his wine with water versus someone who dilutes his wine with mashkin. The inflam was very clear. And dear the answer is and the truth is if you take a look at the which is the over there is talking specifically about when it comes to cutting your wine with water there there's six times water is already it's not considered but when it comes to like the apple juice that was talking about over here in kofal over there already is going to be And says the is going to be you would need your good oldfashioned which is what you need anytime that you want to go ahead and you want to be in other words we have a major between the and the as it relates to this or this of which states that is that true only by or is it true for mashkim as well according to the ts it's true for mashkim according to the shak It's true only for May. It's not going to be true for Mashkim. And by the way, the simple reading of the Ram in certainly screams the had a good alibi. He had a good way to get out of it. And that is the Ram was quoting the you have to have even though we're dealing over here with the is still going to be that all you need is said that as it relates to our blended whisies, even though solution, you're going to tell me that it's 2 and a half%. Which means you have 40 times this definitely not going to be an issue stating that it's not so if you hold that is true not only for it's true for as well then scotch would have the requisite chair to go ahead and be but if you like if you hold that really when it comes to you need 60 wellkim so you're not going to have this year stating that Yes, that as it relates to this it's like the he says number one in a related discussion says that is like the number two like the number three like the makes a beautiful which is beyond the scope of this rabbite that even though the waskim but he believes that the would have been when it comes to because scashes is a very very sharp type of beverage and there's no question in the world that it has the ability to to the extent that has the ability to so says that although it's true at first glance it's a who has the places to get involved in such a he says but if you look at the pkim it's that the way we would have to come out is that of the pkim the pkim come out other than the shak held that the is that we say mashkim and was very confident that the sh himself even though but mashkim doesn't have to include and he believes the is separate and based on that he said is that we're going to say we're going to say when it comes to being mixed into these whisies and if that's the case said this is m what's the problem what's the Are you worried because there's a little bit of wine? So there's 40 times of whiskey. 40 is never the don't you always need 60? No. Not when it comes to wine. That's a argument. When it comes to wine, all you need isn't a that's already not an argument. That's a pretty good argument, right? Isn't it a is between the and whether or not it works? Yeah. is like AND BY THE WAY WHEN IT COMES to and based on that said that there's no question in the world this is the one thing says you have to address which he very easily and simply addresses but you have to mention it and that is what about so we know that even though this is a but go ahead and be not only are you not but if somebody is for you you're not let go ahead now and eat this tarufus. So in this case, even though the yid that's the consumer, he's the end user that's buying this whiskey is not the one that was the wine into the whiskey, but it was done for him, right? It was done for whoever the end user is. And to the extent it was done for him, this should pose a problem of again beyond the scope of what we need to do right now [gasps] where it's that anytime you want something was done was it done for me? Right? It's very nice to think, but let's be honest, right? The whole world doesn't necessarily revolve around you, right? So, was this done for me? Was it done for you? Really, the way we view these things is it was done for Ruba. So, he says for sure when these scotches are being produced, they're being produced for the majority of the world. The majority of the consumers, the majority of consumers of these scotches are in Yehudim. As a result, it's considered that was done for the you to drink it now is not a PROBLEM OF YOU HAVE THE YOU only have 40. You don't have shisha but all you need is shisha and oh by the way the shock would be in this case and it's for that reason said this is the first part of the as it relates to these blended there's no question in the world based on you would be allowed to drink this sounds a little uncomfortable but there's no question when you learn the this is something that you would be allowed to do stating that continued and Ramosa said I think a baf should be and he said I'm going to tell you four reasons why should be and we're going to go through all four [snorts] said number one we know that is not only but is as well that's and even though the right in the beginning of that we spoke about so many times says based on the rean and the rash based on the truth [snorts] that that says that no longer do the flick of the wrist, right? They're no longer being. So, it's for that reason, but number one says it the didn't say it. And number two, as we mentioned in the fifth that the and the also in an art says that the only time you're supposed to rely on this is you're not supposed to go ahead and work with this. So then [laughter] but only but the point is it's really a little bit of a meaning we still view as being says to the extent that could be could be we have to say and that is that as much as it's true [snorts] that said that could be that just means that the time of the yan is no longer a proper time and as a result if you're going to drink it you didn't drink meaning as it relates to all the sug at that point we're not going to view this anymore as being but it's still and it's still even if there's no maybe you have to I think it's explained this a little bit better [snorts] what does it mean that is ble If you take a 6 oz glass of wine and you pour water and you pour 1 oz of wine in it, you think for one second you're not going to taste the wine. Trust me, right? Don't drink too much of it. And right, it believe me, you're going to taste it. Of course, you're going to taste it. So, what does it mean that yisha says it's posh, man? It's really based on again [snorts] beyond the scope of how much we need to go into it right now. But the vart in short the magic word that's used in the vernacular is is that that case is what's known as what does k mean? It translates as acid meaning we don't view the term as being real. It's a derivative thereof. It's could be if you're not a connoisseur you might not even know how to be 100%. But said that that which is no one's going to debate that it's there. But we look at it as it's not a we know when it comes to if somebody has something that's and you burn the it's brought up in different places in that's why you HAVE TO BURY IT. IT'S because if you're going to burn it you can't even benefit from the apher. So says if when it comes to there's no question that of the has to be as well there's something called that's means it's long as it has something that is that's enough to make it even in this form still be there's No question in the world that the tamua which tastes like wine which has a very good taste by the way is not going to be treated as wine. So said there'd be a to argue that when it comes to which is when it comes to which is maybe even though you have the so that there's no problem of drinking it but maybe you do have to with regards to the is now says this is for sure not a problem. How do you know that? Um it's very simple. It's not even a trick question. It's because of the if you're going to tell me it's about how could it be forget that you're going to get when you drink it. So it's we're not worried about this. Why says it's totally in lumbus of but says at the end of the day if you want to be a nephesh and you want to be and you want to say that even though there's a concept of but being that all it does is make it a there you can't deny that. So maybe you still should have to with the no says but you want to know obviously this is not a problem because it's but if you want to beyond what the is and again says it's really and maybe when you go through the there's even more of a to be then for sure but as it relates to the this is not a problem because when the we know that it's going to So says the first reason why is maybe and again it's only based on the fact that when the said you don't we hold that and according to we always say so it could be would be a problem. The second reason says that is because at the end of the day this as much as it's but really it's a big we said how to learn that some say that what the is saying is that there's a when it comes to other have a whole different way of learning the so depending on how you learn that that's going to determine this outcome but if you learn like the other we mentioned before, right? If you learn like the other that there's no when it comes to well then you need and here you only have 40. You don't have by the way just to bolster the point a little bit better. We said that the is very very clear in that all you need is but in really brings two days. Now the says but at the end of the day the brought this one day. SO SAYS LIKE that one day in again it's not the said it's not said it's not you see from the that's not but it is a day in and who like these days should be for the first day in and say that there's no when it comes to the third reason that says that this is easy if you're holding That is the because we said that whether we say or we say as well. Now the truth is when you're buying these apple juices, cerses from and you feel like there might be a little bit of wine over there. So now you have to worry sounded a little bit like you have to have. Now the T said that was only quoting the and really just like when it comes to the shisha here too it's going to be but not that way and the also not that way cuz let's be honest what the is saying is a little bit so says and he says even though is not like the based on THE AND OH BY THE WAY I SAID AND I'M THAT THE HIMSELF NEVER MEANT WHEN IT COMES TO the but at the end of the day there's still the steam of and the steam so not like even THOUGH I KNOW I'M RIGHT BUT STILL and that's a third reason that you shouldn't be you should think that maybe when it comes to it's not enough that you have six you need 60 or you have 40 and based on that this should be a problem has a fourth reason that should be which we're going to just mention fleetingly and this is based on aesh from ibushit and and say for where said that if somebody would mix wine together with mashkin and the purpose of mixing it is to be your is just to make it taste better if that's what your tlas is then you would already need and asks many many kashes on this mat he says he doesn't understand it cup is feast and none of the other place can bring it so he says no question the is not like this matan but at the same time there is such a from and that would be a fourth reason that should be but either way what [clears throat] we just went through now is an a bridge version of actually a little more than a bridge version of blended which was written at the time but we mentioned there's not one here in mo on this topic there are three chuvas and really the next two chu sim giml and sim talid are's responses to and then raosha's counter responses toites and the truth is if you go through those two it's fascinating it's an absolutely epic discussion in with two tremendous who had incredible And really throughout these trou it's very very evident that was a butt was I just want to mention two of the questions the tites asked because they're a very relevant to this raid and it's going to springboard us into some of the raid that's going to come and [snorts] that is as follows. The first theites asked was that everyone knows in this is 101 and that is that if you put a spice of into a dish so told I think the way you have to you view the wine that's being mixed into this blended y is as a tapa because that's really what it is. You're not drinking wine. You're drinking whiskey. But this whiskey has in it an ingredient which is wine. So I think you have to view this wine the way you would view pepper, black pepper that you're shaking into your ch. I think it's a tin. It's a spice. It's an ingredient more than it is an essence. And being that we know that so I think this is a little bit different at all. So Mosha gives this question a lot of air time and again if time allows we'll get into it a little bit more in the coming rate but the short answer that gave toites is he said that I hear what you're saying but you know why cuz the iss wine and you dilute it with water or with mashkin you always taste the wine THE TASTE IS THERE NVAS KAZAL that is what do you mean you taste it? It's like we said earlier that time is considered and being that it's considered. So it's for that reason even though you taste it, it's not a taste that you have to worry about. So what are YOU GONNA TELL ME NOW? I came up with a patent. It's a tavlin. IT'S A BUT THERE'S six times which means that taste of the is and that's not a problem. That's the of the explain it a little bit better. What does it mean that what what is the t of that the is because a is nice and t right there's nothing unique about a tablin is not some that it can't be but it's so that seriously black peppers more of than a piece of meat makes no sense IN THE WORLD. THE TER is because when you put something in as a tablin so as long as your the which you're going to be so it's for that reason the regular is no longer going to be applicable but the point is the reason I feel we're not learning now the reason is because you taste it if you didn't taste it there'd be no bottle says this wine call it a call it whatever you want to CALL IT YOU DON'T TASTE IT HOW YOU TASTE IT IT'S WHEN THERE'S YOU ALSO taste it. So once we say it's and that's when it comes to that same issue is the issue for white tablet is not going to be a problem. So it's a VERY COMPELLING QUESTION BUT AT THE same time says the longest is once and this to us it's based on days that is that means once it's diluted at a 6:1 ratio any time that you have is not considered wine it's considered and if it's considered it doesn't matter what you call it how you label it on your wrapper what you put in the nutrition facts at the end of the day it is not yan That's also and if that's the case call it a tablin this is not going to be a problem because that time of this tablin is only kam the second kasha that I think is kad mentioned there of tights assa and this is a bomb kasha this is a bomb kasha this is the kasha that we're going to go through now cuz we're going to wrap up that really requires the most air time I think when you go through the some of these related and that is based on The says as follows where the der is to be wine inside these. [snorts] Hear this one more time. All of the wine or vinegar are going to be assur means that we don't even do the ratios. We don't do the proportions. We don't take out our calculators, but rather they're considered unequivocally. There's no when it comes to Now sounds like a very big right to this is a it's a raju where the rajba was asked a question about certain medications that were popular in his time where one of the ingredients in the medication was and the raj was asked is it mut to take this medication now if we're dealing with so then it would be even though there's a reash that says that Maybe is a problem even for we don't ask him like that. So then there's no question in the world. But this was being used for even and the question was being that one of the ingredients is that a problem or maybe it's not a problem that in this medication the majority of the ingredients is not you would think that this would be okay. Stating that says it's a problem and the reason it's a problem is twofold. >> [snorts] >> He says number one number one this which is and we have a from the that said that anytime you have where the are because the like the we're learning right now you don't say the being that it's this being that the derek is to go ahead and to put this wine inside of it. So then already you can't say is a tip that fell into pun happened or even if it was but it was punked on right where it's the over there it's and over there it's going to be says the talking that I saw that truth and I'm bringing this truth right here in my code of laws because I think it belongs said he says I think we have a very big problem over here. >> [laughter] >> He said because these scotches these are and the pass based on this that they are going to be and if that's the case it would seem to be often and he says I understand the whole I understand we were able to work it out but at the end of the DAY THIS IS THE AND the [laughter] for that I think we have a little bit of an issue. Now truth is like this. When Rafites asked his kasha to Raosha, Rafites preempted a little bit what Ramosa might say and I think it's to speak out that uh preemptive strike from because that's going to go into the this year and that is as follows says like this we mentioned that the said two reasons why number one he said it's based on where the said that anytime you have of you don't say number two being that it's It's not a this was not like a punct even but this is mish the ingredient right the recipe calls for this and in a situation like that you don't say where is this rife so this is going to take us down memory lane a little bit we're going to have to go back a month or so to some of the earlier sugis that we learned here we know that is you think we know that is we know that is stating that when you learn the ginos and it's not the same thing. They're all right. They're all but they're really not the same. It's three completely different [snorts] because we're concerned there might be a little bit of inside of it. The Gumar gives a bunch of reasons but the reason that comes out is that in order to be and turn it into they would put it in the of that's how they used to do it and because it has of inside of it that's why we're concerned. Now you're going to tell me isn't venus made from. So if is a then by definition should be also the answer is that you can't make vina from that you can't make from so if you have you know that there's no of [laughter] inside of it. So what would be the problem? The problem is all the right sometimes there's cashes that sometimes it's cashes that every [snorts] worried there might be a little bit of Na that little bit of Na that you're worried might be inside of it is for sure bottled to all the that's there. It's [laughter] so if it's then why don't we say the asks this we talk about all the master even the ra who doesn't save throughout his but over here even the rama asks kasha and the ra says I'm going to tell you why there's no it's because being that the is so its impact its effect is noticeable which is a This is where it comes from. It comes from the but the rabbit had a different reason. The rabbit said that the reason that is awesome is available. Don't say it's because what's the reason that Venus is or this is all and when it comes to says derive it we don't say when it comes to laws of there's no and SAYS DERIVE IT THAT'S WHY there is not going to be this is the is the quoted in his tru so when the raj was asked the question about the medications that I'll be giving And there's a little bit of wine. Could you say B said the but two reasons? Number one, there's arriv. But number one, there's a rivet with the rivet said that when it comes to you don't say here, we're dealing with. So as a result, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE number two because it's and whenever it's dark, you don't say. WHAT WAS THAT riv that [laughter] was referring to? It was derived that all the bring in the who was that the reason we don't say on because he did and whenever you're dealing with you're not going to say so this is where it gets a little bit interesting we mentioned that there's a there's a and there's a of let's pivot for a minute to the is butter what's So if you look it up in it's a little bit of a surprising the says as follows. The says as it relates to the butter of you can't be against people that are if most of the people are then don't worry about it. If there's no mic in if you cooked it until the pockets of milk went away is going to be the bottom line is as it relates to it sounds like it's totally right you eat you don't eat you you eat you don't eat what's going on over here I I don't understand how could it be totally I mean and this is something that boils down to what's so the as follows. Just like when it comes to we said there's no problem of why because the [snorts] of can't become when it comes to there's also no problem and the reason is because the can't become either now the which was true by wasn't true by so based on that shouldn't be a problem because you have the mil of the you have the mil that you know it's But you don't have because there's no problem of so what's the issue? The issue is that there was always a concern and it's based on that there might be there might be little pockets of that was really mixed into the original which by the way we're always concerned about that's what is also because you worry there might be and it could be that little pocket never turned into but when you're going to go ahead and you're going to eat the you're eating but you're also eating a little bit of and that little bit of is going to be a concern says the stating at if you would go ahead and you would cook the then for sure it's going to be why because once you cook it then even if there was it's going to be bottled to the which we know is kosher and as a result this is going to be this is going to be you're not going to have a problem. So again when it comes to you have the of you have the why because you know there's no because of can't become just like it can't become and you don't have because then the only reason it's a problem is because of [laughter] do you have TO BE THAT'S TOTALLY a minute but if you go ahead and you cook it then anyways it's bottle because the bishop was of it and then it's going to be bottle and once it's bottled like this already there's not going to be an issue. says and this is that if you take a look at the right here invas that this is a little nuance but it's if you want to get the that is if you cook It's going to be is the rajb it's not like the which raja the rajbu who said that is like the we don't say when it comes to because if you're going to tell me that there's no when it comes to and that's why but there's no and that's why when it comes to those medicines we're not going to rely on then who cares you went ahead AND YOU COOKED NOW I'M FEARFUL YOU'RE CONCERNED that there might be [laughter] well if you're concerned there MIGHT BE THAT YOU CAN'T BE is not something that's subject to bishop. says the says this right here this right here is going to be this right here is going to be that we don't go like that raj and we say that this even when it comes to now the reason said it in his cha which is something that we're going to get to is because trying to figure out if tal is like that raja that First glance quotes and you say what do you mean is like quotes it said what exactly is the negotiation it says like only that being that himself said that what he brought down is that it's not push that like because as much AS he didn't ask and if that's the case says my is not like the with the steering. So the didn't really explain it in but the bottom line is comes out in this with a tremendous based on his observation and that is that as much as the influen what he tells he tells I understand everything that you're telling me you're telling me that when they blend these they put a little bit of wine inside of it you don't have to worry about why not is I you don't have you only have 40. It's because when it comes to this even is that all you're going to said rough tides but there's another problem you know the problem is the and this is their case because the isites [laughter] went and he preempted what he thought was going to tell him and he was right cuz was going to tell him this. He preempted where was we'll see in a second how we know but t preempt where was going to tell him he says I know what you're going to tell me you're going to tell me where the READ SAID THAT IT'S NOT so like this in the goes and he says that says the light is not like but he says left us hanging a little bit never fully EXPLAIN TO US HOW YOU RECONCILE. YOU CAN'T JUST WALK AWAY from a steering with a steering but so I think I know what is you know what is he says of fellow he says talking about is talking about maybe IS no right we know is more so could be there like the but when it comes to not he says I don't have any other way to reconcile it must be like I think that makes a lot of sense. So if it's and says so that would mean that when it comes to yeah you have you have that but when it comes to THAT'S so these BLENDED but you HAVE A PROBLEM HOW YOU GOING TO GET AWAY from this brought back to rough tites you ready mask him to the way you meas says it's the [laughter and snorts] but this is where you have to be it's to me that this [laughter] that was when it comes to but he was it's only the even nowadays AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE IS THAT IT'S more but we go and ask like the and already told us that you could be make when it comes to if that's the case I think today it's posit in the world of the there's no way on earth that is going to be more than and if that's the case that by the was it's you can be as well. stating that told your is a very good and nephesh I believe should be says it's a fifth reason I believe that should be upon him came with aesh and he said I agree with everything that you're saying right now but at the same time at the same time I think it's posit it's posit that according to the ram it's going to be different and by the just to bring one brought to his because it's such a big I feel like it needs a right just to bring one and this is in says be very careful when you buy be very careful when you buy their beverages make sure there's no wine ready is to put you can't buy from them unless there's 60. What's the problem of buying the inside of it says that if there's no 60 and the is to put don't buy says what do you see from here? If the der is to put but there is 60 then you're gonna have a what do you mean it's the what's going on over here the say that's the but there are that when you're dealing with that so then you're going to be and hold that more is it's It was a long but it was worth it. I'm telling you it's everything that you said every twist and turn but at the end of the day that follow for sure we're going to be and just because it's the that in of itself is not going to be a problem. So let's just uh make the code. Again the question was asked around there certain whisies where the derek was that they would blend it with wine. They would put a little bit of wine inside of it up to 2 and a half%. And be a problemites went with grace [snorts] to make this not be an issue anymore. Wrote it's murdering what you're doing. But at the same time is not a problem. The reason this is not a problem is because when it comes to require and even though it's maybe is different but is like and when it comes to that is that the is going to be no that's the only problem either I do it or it's done for me here I didn't do it and it wasn't done for me it was done which are and based on that that's not going to be an issue stating that said four reasons that should be says number one maybe even though you don't have to be worried about the time of the as it relates to the because that's maybe also be an issue I mean it's not a problem but should be additionally says that maybe is that when it comes to is not hold that way and it's one day and so if that's the case again it's not it's not if you say it's you're not being honest but at the same time is one day that's brought down in additionally we have the when it comes to you can't be and says even though again the is not like the and I think the that's what the shak says and remember the shak was coming from the So you have the steam that has value. There's a that says that if you're putting the wine to be then you go to the regular. So it says even though is not like this mat and I don't understand it to be honest with you but at the same time four reasons that wrote many truths back to we spoke out two of his grace that he asked. One of them is why do you view it as a said at the end of the day it's and if it's that in of itself is not going to be a problem and then finally said isn't it most of the terror himself but really what emerged from was that as much as but it's the not that way and you have to One is talking about which is and the other one is talking about which is and said but that follow who holds that it's not going to be an issue and by the way take a look at himself in with seems to be saying and it's based on that it's NOT A PROBLEM BUT it is a fifth The reason if you would like to go ahead and be m so just as a postcript to this two things number one this chuva is eerily similar to the very very famous where writes a chuva he says that it's but at the same time but just two observations as it relates to distinctions between these two chuas number one if you go back to the chuva So comes out like this. Comes out as follows. And there's no there's no to say that I'm going to be and other people are being says I myself am but if somebody wants to be he's doing the right thing and you have no right to be call him someone that's malur as it relates to what said regarding the blended scotches writes like this blended I don't drink these blended whisies stating that if I'm sitting amongst a group of people so that it shouldn't look like I would drink a little to bench the people around me. It's the right thing to do. But in as much as he said in the tru that he himself was and there's no of to be when it came to the blended from says that I myself EVEN THOUGH BUT NOT WHEN it intersects with a case of we've mentioned many times over the years this is a textbook example of how even in the world is you have the nuance how with regards to theamu said there's a problem I mean there's no problem don't worry about but when it came to the blended here already said there is a problem and that's why as much as I'm but not when it's going to be I'm going to be the only one THAT'S NOT DRINKING THAT'S already himself wrote with his own pen that this is something that he was make in when he found himself in this kind of situation this is the first and the very obvious observation but there's another obvious observation and I just think it's worth mentioning because we made such a big deal about this when we learned the truth and that is wrote his famous truth about and at the end he said and if you remember we talked a little bit about it's not clear from the truth why said and I had discussed to actually asked this question to Feinstein [snorts] who told me that he had discussed it many times with his brother he said used to say it's not clear to him why said to He has a mahalak but said one thing is clar it wasn't because he wasn't sure if the is like what he wrote in the truth felt very strongly that this is and the family was knowing that way but the bottom line is it was very unclear why said think of the contrast here writes five good truas five reasons why the bal should be m it's so interesting by doesn't tell you why a ba should be m but yet when it comes to the actual He's like ara right he says there's no I'm very m as far as we know never drank stories that he almost drank right but there's different mices but the bottom line is is that didn't tell us he left us hanging what's the here by the cast told us he could not he wrote us to explain maybe is like the maybe like the mat you Maybe fire and lus in terms of again it's so interesting these tourists get lumped together very very often. Obviously, that's completely different troubles, but just a few interesting nuances. But here's the bottom line. This is Merik. This is the foundation of understanding the discussion of the next time you pick up an 18-year-old Macallen stating that, right? Stating that this has nothing to do with the Sherry cask Shilop Edson. And the reason is because the Sherry casks, nobody's taking wine and pouring or no one's taking anything and pouring it into the scotch. What you're doing is you're aging and you're maturing the scotch in barrels that previously had wine stored inside of it. There the ratios and the proportions are going to be different. There's a lot of different nuances that would have to be factored in. What exactly that all is hashem?