Why did Zionists created Zionism

why did the zionists create Zionism well tell me the zionists created Zionism because they weren't happy with the the way the Jews were uhhuh yes the Jews were persecuted but as the Zionist themselves stated the early zionists in all of their writings that anti-Semitism really isn't the reason for creating Zionism if anti-Semitism the facts that fact that the Jews were persecuted was a reason uh for them to look into themselves and see what's wrong with the Jews if they're hated so much and they came to the conclusion that the problem with the Jews were the Jews yeah that they're not like the Gentiles and if they would be like the Gentiles so they wouldn't be persecuted more than they w't be persecuted more than they would wouldn't be hated they wouldn't hate themselves because they really did hate themselves the the the early zionists they they looked at the Jewish people and they looked at themselves and said we so jewy like why can't we be normal like I tell you something about the Jewish people right the Jewish people believe what is a Jew let's start with that what is a Jew it used to be that the Jews Define themselves one way yeah okay on the top of the true I no sorry sorry on the top of the mountain m mhm around the mountain actually um Mount Si uh there was a a few million refugees from Egyptian slavery escaped Egypt uh rag tag bunch of uh refugees in in middle of no man's land in those days of Sinai desert was not owned by any particular country it was just you know ownerless and and and God came to them and said if anybody wants the job of fulfilling the Torah fulfilling fulfilling the Torah involves obligations involves obligations it involves responsibilities and and the reason for these obligations and responsibilities is because God created the world for a purpose where did the Torah come from God from God God yeah and and and created the world for a purpose and uh the purpose is to connect to God and just like god is perfect uh go it's kind of like uh God said I'd like to share this Perfection and I'd like to let other people also enjoy this Perfection uh because it's it's it's to their benefit it's their pleasure um God said story creation story so so God said you know what I'm going to uh create a way for people to connect to me because God is perfect and nothing else can be perfect as as God is and so if you want to be part of that Perfection if you want to enjoy that Perfection I would imagine Perfection is perfectly enjoyable as well you know um which is something the scientists haven't figured out a way to to accomplish yet but um you got to be connected to God so God created the Torah which is a means to connect to him and he said to everybody in the world not only to the Jews he said if anybody would like to accept this Torah I'm not forcing anybody to do it it involves responsibilities involves obligations but the reason for these particular obligations and responsibilities is because by doing so by fulfilling these particular responsibilities and obligations after you leave this world your soul connects to me mhm and then you have all this pleasure yeah and and those who said were willing to accept these responsibilities became the Jews mhm okay there were unborn Jews there there there were Souls that of unborn people cuz God wanted to be fair he he offered it to even unborn people and there many unborn people yet to be born correct they accepted it God made sure that those people when it's time for them to be born they will be born to Jewish Mothers uhh um the people who were around Mount s they accepted it other people didn't accept it but it's not too late anybody can accept the Torah they're called converts at any time they want Judaism is not a race Judaism is not an ethnicity what ethnic what common ethnicity do I have let's say with a yemenite Jew have around the corner from me my family's in Poland for 500 700 years around the corner from me there's a a nice yemenite Jew who's a good friend of mine we have nothing in common in terms of ethnicity okay right um we have it's not a race you can convert to Judaism you can't convert to a race Jews Jews looked at themselves with this Supernatural um uh characteristic of those who accepted the Torah I'm not asking you to accept this this story that's your choice but that's the story the Jews always identified themselves as uh being the recipients of the Torah nothing else nothing else M nothing mhm until the Emancipation came and French Revolution and and and there were there were those Jews who figured you know what life would be much better for us we wouldn't be persecuted anymore we would be much much more happier with ourselves if we would be like the Gentiles if we be more secular and so they first tried assimilation and and and stuff like that but guess what happened yeah particularly in the early 1880s in Russia the pams yeah the Gentiles didn't accept their theory that if they become like the Gentiles the Gentiles will accept them they know what to do if they become like the Gentiles the Gentiles will accept them BEC they're coming secular and away from Torah TR yes and sometimes not not only secular Christian many of them converted to Christianity because they said you know what the Christians will accept us they didn't mhm so plan B they had to come up with Plan B yeah and they thought they had the answer because of staring them in the staring uh them in the face in those days in those days nationalism was sweeping Europe well that was coming yeah com sweeping Europe nationalism and they figured this nationalism doing so well for the other people everyone's becoming a nation all these people becoming a nation we'll also become we'll also become a nation we won't be a religion anymore we'll be a nation in other words they wanted to join the The Gangs the Gentiles the Gentiles said no you're not playing in our Parks you're you're talking about the early Zion yes you're not playing in our Park you're not joining our gang so the Zionist said guess what so we'll make our own gang we're not we're going to change history we're going to look at the Jewish people not the way the Jewish people always looked at them eles we're going to make up we're going to invent a new nation that never existed the Jewish Nation Jewish Nation now there's a problem a Jewish Nation do it was it was a it was a fantasy it was a figment of their imagination there was no such thing as a Jewish Nation they were the Jewish people that were United by this Supernatural narrative this Torah that they believed in but there's no such thing as as as a nationality but they had a history that back to David and Solomon and everything no not back to David and Solomon back to the Exodus from Egypt okay okay I seem to remember a story where the Jews ex left Egypt right you see the zionists actually that's part of what that's that's part of what what they do it's part of their their propaganda in Israel they they emphasize even the archaeologist they emphasize the David and Solomon and in the schools they start learning the Bible not from um Adam and Noah and even Abraham but from Joshua when he went cross over the Jordan River into uh the Holy Land because that's where Jewish history starts for them but that's not true they kind of like uh rebuilt Jewish history we have a thing where he he Frank Pope was corrected n yes I'm going to get to that what they did was they they invented a language because especially in those day Ben Yuda right especially in those days uh part of being a nation was you had to have a common language that was a big ele nationalism right so so but the Jews didn't have a Common Language they didn't have Hebrew they didn't have Hebrew the Jews did not speak Hebrew they have Yiddish the European Jews spoke Yiddish the Oriental Jews did not speak Yiddish and and Yiddish the zionists hated Yiddish it's a great because it because it was so jewy how could we live without Yiddish I mean You' have no comedy clubs you'd have nothing going you know I mean yish is really rich comedy clubs yeah they can't do comedy clubs in English no well they you sh and they got such many they got such good words already in yish you know stick you got stick that's from J well you're a Shas guy that's absolutely yeah but I mean you got you know well anyway Mel Brooks that lives right yeah um in any case they invented a language so that the Jews can have a language and they kind of convinced themselves yeah that the Jews always spoke this language or or Once Upon a Time spoke this ancient language of Hebrew that was resurrected but but it's not true I I showed you the the clip the it was so embarrassing just to give you an idea of how fictitious this whole Jewish Nation quote unquote is that that yeah when the pope recently came to Israel he had a meeting with nanyu and nanyu was like bragging about Israel for whatever reason he considers this bragging he said you know Jesus lived here and he spoke Hebrew right and so the pope corrects him he says Aramaic yeah right you can find this on on the internet of course it was Aramaic so Nat says yeah but he understood Hebrew maybe he did but you understand how embarrassing it is for like the head of stat nationalism that's nationalism yes but there's nationalism where a person knows he's being nationalistic nobody really believes Uncle Sam exists right yeah but but but theanu thought he didn't even think all right I'm going to trick the pope I'm going to pull this over on him he really believed it's likeed in their now if that Jesus Hebrew that the Jew Hebrew they did not but but that's what they're now now he knows they didn't cuz if the pope corrected him he understood perfectly but it's like what you got to say we got to say the people invent their own thing in order to serve their interest yeah exactly what they did now what about the situation now so so hold on so they they invented Hebrew then but they needed a land so they went and they got a land that's Israel but the reason they they made Zionism they got Israel and and created a language and created a new history that didn't exist they took our our villains and made them into Heroes Jews are very non-militant people I notic we is true violence in fact the Jews to the point where you know what we would consider it insane to have even a a military hero we never had military hero right right even that an athlete an athlete should be a role model for people athlete should be a role model for for for people we never had role models that were athletes or military guys the RO the righteous people the righteous the pious people the ones that that that live life in a proper moral uh ethical religious say Torah true is it true to say Torah true right people you have it on your side Tor Tor is a description it's not a it's not a a a label it's a description means true to the Torah opposed toting the Torah and the Jews never even I it's unimaginable even for the Jews to have let's say uh a historic site like the Alamo for example no such thing so what happens now is a very very interesting part of the world is very dangerous we only got about 10 minutes left uh what do you see is the attitude of the world ought take toward the question of Mr Netanyahu or Israel and the ideas about Iran and so forth what do you think is the situation there and what would be the policy suggestions you would make to uh decision makers in terms of the situation with Mr nety at the helm in Israel now well the entire idea of Zionism not being Judaism means that Zionism lifted the name Jew jewishness judism MH and they they gave it false meaning Zionism is identity theft against the Jewish people there's no such thing as a Jewish State because Judaism is a religion and Jews are those United by by this Supernatural characterist Supernatural Factor there's no such thing as a Jewish state but they form the state fine and they unilaterally declared it the Jewish state but it's not I could say this room is the the Jewish state that doesn't make it so they only declare something a Jewish States because they Chang the definition of Jewish my definition of Jewish the Torah true definition the traditional definition it's not a question of whether the Jewish state is good or the Jewish state is bad it's not a Jewish state to me it's like China there are Jews living there but it has nothing to do with me where are the where are the Jews living best in terms of the Jewish State as you understand the Jewish people who are the people that represent that better than any other people the the people who always represent our role models the righteous religious people who represents the people that believe the Jews got the Torah on Mount Si and it's their life's mission to fulfill it those people represent the Jews and among the Jews you got the like in the United States you got the conservative and reform and all that and then you got Orthodox the Orthodox Jews are the ones who are really the most close to what is the right way for a person to be Jewish it's very simple the conserv the conservative and reform and the zionists came later Christianity was based on Judaism at the beginning right but it Formed another religion reformed Judaism can call itself Judaism but it's another religion so is conservative Judaism like Jews for Jesus why wouldn't you consider Jews for Jesus a denomination of Judaism they just listen between is Christianity and offshoot of Judaism well you know Jesus was a Jew he spoke Aramaic and then right is true 100% you know the last supper was a PES Sader and you look in the New Testament he was basically an orthodox Jew he not reform he was not conservative he just you know believed that uh he's went around you know kindie he was the Messiah but but what should be the lessons taken by people of the Jewish faith that are viewing this program in terms of their decision on which way they want to go to lead their lives in the time ahead relating to Judaism and Zionism Zionism is a different religion than Judaism to ask me what I think should happen between Jew Israel and Iran is like asking me what should happen between Canada and Iran or or Pakistan and Iran it's not a Jewish question it's an Israeli question it's a Zionist question what you think should be happening between the G Tor to Jewish community and the world I don't understand the question well I don't either really I just said so so that's where you mentioned before I I'm not an anti Zionist Jew Zionism is anti me it's like saying I'm anti-lock Clan oh you're an anti-lock Clan Zionism was created to change the Jews from what I am to what Benjamin nanyu is to eradicate to eradicate the the jewi the Torin is the the what they call the ghetto Jew which is what I am I'm a proud ghetto Jew look at me I I think you look great man we all great we all walked great right from intellectual Community right and but they tried to to eliminate our identity to eliminate us they want they thought that we would not exist anymore more and everybody would be like them just like you like secular smarty ass Christian whatever you exactly yeah so so it's like it's like saying well Rabbi Shapiro as a Jew what do you think the pope should do in this situation well what do you mean Hey listen the pope believes in God Mists don't the pope um believes in the Bible MOS that really happens Mists don't right sure they believe it's a mythology the pope believes it's real correct the Pope in a messiah a different one we do Mist don't and the pope wears a y and Mist don't so who's closer to me to My Religion the pope or an atheist Zionist well that's interesting to take it that way we we have I we have nothing that you mentioned the T K before they they insert themselves in the Palestinian Israeli conflict anybody to true just means they're they're outright uh uh against Zionism and they have demonstrations and they make it got along with the that's all that's he wanted them on their committee that's all true that has nothing to do with me I consider that a Zionist uh Zionist Behavior anti-zionist yes but they're anti-zionists like the left wings are anti-zionist they look at Israel they look at the Israeli Palestinian conflict as their conflict they should weigh in and as Jews have a position as far as I'm that's a Zionist idea because why relate to them do you relate to them you don't get together and stuff and everything are there others of the Jewish Warfare that go along with your view of Harold yes of course there are I want to correct a misconception you're limiting uh Jews that don't believe in Zionism to the the 10 or 20 people that you see on television all the time the the T this one or that one no no no no mainstream traditional Judaism doesn't believe in Zionism now who do you call Mainstream ask a Christian yeah so ask a Christian whether they believe in purgatory well it depends if it's a Catholic or Protestant right so on and so forth same thing over here everybody can call anybody can call themselves authentic Jews I could get into I can get into it with you and discuss what authentic Judaism is but we don't have enough time for that we're get three minutes but you're asking me you're asking me about my religion not the reformed religion not the conservative Jewish religion not the Jews for Jesus religion and not the Zionist religion so so we should not say okay why do you think of these 10 Jews who I always see on television who are anti-zionist as well it has nothing to do they don't see much on T on the internet mosty okay I understand but but I have no connection with Israel it is not a Jewish State have a son who's there now in school and and there's not Jew can live there they could live here they could live there it's not a problem we're talking about the state of Israel the Romans once owned the holy land and just as holy yeah right okay uh when the Jews spoke Aramaic they were even more holy than the Hebrews speaking uh Godless Jews atheists zionists that are there now yeah so so the the an short answer to your question is that if somebody really wants to be a a judaic Jew a traditional Jew a Torah Jew he should um relates to he should accept the Jewish religion as opposed to some political version of Judaism MH which is what Zionism is there much of that going on do you think among your fellow Jews yeah there it is growing yeah are there other people across the country you relate with do you have do you have Association meetings we don't need Association you know what it's like asking me okay you're a Christian you believe Jesus is the Messiah you have other people who associated with we we we don't need meeting this is just our religion we don't need meetings it's not like a club or two three guys this is uh mainstream Orthodox Judaism yeah does it have much why say mainstream it's not modern Orthodoxy but mainstream Ultra Orthodoxy that's it we don't need clubs let me ask something I'm against the Klux Clan would would you ask me do you have anti- Klux Clan meetings with your peers no no it's the same thing it's just not Judaism that's all right it's just not there and and what about just one we only a minute left or so how much about political clout does this take on things Juda from your perspective have in terms of the geopolitical realities of the world or ought they had our power we've only got a minute or two left yeah our power yeah the real power yeah the real power is God oh okay that's it uhhuh that's our geopolitical um that's what we relate to that's our power that's who we beseech all the time to help us out and listen 2,000 years nobody understands how the Jews survived 2,000 years we didn't have any political you know why yeah why God yeah okay he's still around we don't need anything else that's our power okay so Judaism is not a political thing it's a religious thing it's a religious and uh well that's really interesting as the way that's a take I I just don't know I was interested you're talking with galed and everything like that on the same take and there to be more expressive because it does have political ramifications in terms of the world if this could be uh come part of a a truly identity that would BR some sort of difference to the way in which the were are you optimistic for the human Prospect or not the human Prospect I need you to tell me what that means well do you think we're going to blow it up you think we're going to destroy the whole species or do you think we made this this possibility we can liberate from Material all of that or annihilate the species you think we're going to make it I don't think we're annihilating the species but that's just speculation I have no scientific proof of that all right in my community we need to have intellectual uh proof to something before make an assertion listen your my pleasure for crying out loud my pleas Rabbi Yakov Shapiro Rabbi how do you say B M of Bater say of baywater okay well listen thank you a lot for coming it's so great we got to get talking more I got a lot of people I could introduce you to to help set you straight sure and you could do the same with me I think right no problem all right we tried here okay thanks for viewing we're coming back again tomorrow this is the rabbi and it's great pleasure talking with Rabbi Shapiro thank you very much and we'll be coming back um again tomorrow so thank you for viewing okay great Hat Man who does your hat I'm buying the store