Shavuos: The Brilliant Reconciliation of Rav Chaim Brisker For the Unknown Teshuvas Harambam

this store class is brought to you by torahanytime.com today here in Cuban Hills New York so this is our second to last year before shibuous so we want to speak about the asserts and the various customs of reading the asserts there's a mishna tamid if you remember back in the good old days we actually learned together one summer um the the fifth parrot the first mishna said and the base the appointed one would say to them early in the morning they read the essers they would then bless three blessings very interestingly the mission is telling us in middle of the Krishna they would recite not only the Shema and the brochos they would add the asares had the voice now obviously this is not something that we do but in fact obviously it was not a hepsic it was considered a part of the Halal who's mandated in fact the gemara is comments on this mishnah and number two the Karina is cane they even wanted to do this big vulen they even wanted to do this outside of the base of so why did they stop Allah but they abolished the practice and we'll see ramosa writes in achuva the language of bitlam implies that they actually did do it big blue and they actually did do it outside of the base of mcdosh and they had a stop because of the complaints of the Abbey Carson wanted to enact this in Surah so apparently there was a lot of reason and there was there were tamim they were were Logics to try to Institute saying and they pointed out that they were movatolists because of the complaints of the amenium what are these complaints the very interesting Rashi it says so that they don't say to the amios now typically who are minim um typically medium are Jewish apostates Jewish happy Carson a guy is not a men a guy is a guy not easy to be a guy you have to be you know your father your mother has to be a guy you can't just be a guy But A Min a minion is much easier to be so what okay Rashi here touches men akum which is usually not what men means you're looking to know to be who don't know who the of his uh points out that this is different than all other meaning here meaning refer to goyam and we're afraid they're going to say to the amejara Torah Ms the rest of the Torah is not true the tedu the proof is the Sinai the proof is in the pudding the proof is you only read yes you're not reading anything else so it must be the goyama we're afraid the Goliath are going to tell the amirs come on the only real Torah are the asrasada rice by the way the you xiaomi says it straight out the xiaomi and broccoli is says really we should be reading laning ourselves Deliver us every day so why not okay very interesting so the question arises you know as part of chakras besides the zimra there are many other things that we read from the Torah many people have a custom they say the Arcada the parishes what about are you allowed to say that the voice but sibor so there's a tube in the Raj says the rajba Asura soy skin you may not recite the assador you know not even without a safety you cannot say it but silver why the same way the mission doesn't tell me they would say that says and they wanted to do a big villain and they were moving so too you cannot you know between uh right right before a Bismillah stay together it falls under the umbrella gazera of and it's codified in the middle the Macabre says all the way in the beginning okay so even if you just got that far Simon alive it's a good thing to say these things I would add it's a good thing to come to show in the morning it's also you know good thing to dive in bismanoi and on top of that it's also good to say the Arcada and the man and that says who says comments why United States especially our days we are we are uh those are the the meaning the rampant they're everywhere there's you know they're swarms of them they're they they're all over the place therefore okay let me just check one thing first is it where oh yeah therefore um you know how to write it on a plaque which is designated for the t-bar despite the fact that almost every Shoal does it but you're not allowed to says here we'll have to see you know yeah I mean what is that it's not the Declaration of Independence that's the sister Deborah's what's the now why not the mission of Brewer seems to be extending the gazera of the garage says lest anybody said let somebody say this is the only Torah so you can't have it publicly um um displayed why so that people don't say this is the only part of the time after all why aren't you displaying also that and because we're we're afraid that people are going to say a little levada by the way this comes from the mug in Abram especially in our days maybe it could be in Cuban Hills or no minim so you don't have to worry but that's the mission Bureau says uh we'll we'll come back to this topic again I don't mean to you know every every show follows them or the Astra but uh this is what the mission seems to be saying and then the mission River sounds like this it's only user to say it that sibur bike but before because you know how to save the zebra at all even not by the way regarding this issue of publicly displaying the Sarasota Shai versus on the inside on the outside well says that you are shy in my opinion it's awesome why because if they were movato reading that says the difference because in the meaning who are afraid are going to say Antonio Brown says therefore you cannot write it on a plaque for the seabor in my opinion it's a because to Lane it or to say it but fine so it takes you know one minute and then the rest of the day nobody's paying attention but to publicly display that Sarah said it stands openly 24 hours a day seven days a week of course it's awesome and therefore plaque what's a conscious yeah so certainly if you can't ride in on that settle and put it on the wall to have it on a stone and it permanently displayed you know it would seem to be the same thing I there's a shul I I heard that they write it on the closely based on my uh madrich in a certain location they did it the balabatham did it says the true shy don't follow them it could be they Taco wrote it because they're happy Carson and that's what they wanted to show vain we don't follow what people do we follow the I you'll see on this show they do that initial you don't know that they ever ask permission it could be they just put it up and now once it's up you know you have to rip it off the wall but the fact that you see it up on the wall is not indicative that it's correct somebody paid a lot of money he won his name on it so he put it up on the wall now well we're gonna rip down the wall because he violated so the fact that it's done does not mean it's correct says it's Russia okay that's what it seems that we're saying right now yeah yeah that's the yeah good for them right but uh you know but right now it seems like you can't lean it right you can't you can't say it but sabora you can't put antibody and you can't display it yeah you're not giving you're not necessarily giving it more kashivos you Lane boracious I'll Stand you know that's a good that's an interesting subject standing so it seems that it would come out that based on what we're saying if you're not allowed to read it during breakfast and you know how to say it but sibor and you can't display it so are you allowed to stand so it would seem of course you can't and therefore says it's not correct and if a few people do it it's not a big deal if only a few people are doing the wrong thing but if the for the Seaboard to stand it is incorrect is to stand however if you want to know my opinion about it it is not correct to stand for well then where does it come from to stand there and assess the rest it is brought down in many very credible swarm on on one of the most prominent swarama frame and he writes that let's talk in general is one required to stand for Chris Atara no you're not obligated to stand for Chris atarra it is not a halach obligation although the marami rotenberg would stand it's Midas casidos to stand but it's not required and you're allowed to sit so then the ShopRite brings us down you don't have to stand there are those who are masks however during a Ceres the menu is to stand and if the miniguna shows to stand one may not sit and be different than the rest of the table so again very nice Amino gets to stand but it would seem to be incorrect to stand based on the fact that you know how to say it but seabor United and you're now to display it by the way in the sitter of Rubik he also brings down the Minogue is to stand here I think there is I don't if you can get okay like Allah brings down in the khavadas from the xiaomi sibor who brings down from the hamdas yamim that even though according to that Rizal you don't stand during Satora nevertheless onshibous you should stand okay so very interesting we mentioned before that Ms brings down that it's not correct to stand for the boys however we we've mentioned many times wrote many many sorrow and in the safer toys again discusses the custom of standing for The Voice he brings down there many mokoimo it's the minigas to stand thank you during Israel and and there are those who challenge this Minogue based on what the gemara says in many places that they were movatel the recitation of debris during davening because of taruma foreign in his opinion tarumai samin should not apply to standing further verse why in the second paragraph on the seventh line he says let's let's you know let's get a grip over here first of all last week this week you're learning yes right next week you're laning mishpatam so what are you afraid people are going to say the only tar that was given me Sinai Israel so then why did you waste your time coming to show last week why are you wasting your time coming to show the next week it's not like you're only laning yes or you're laning the whole Torah can say there LMI you're standing up but to say that we're afraid people are gonna say the only Taira are the debris when they see that you're laning the Shabbos before the Shabbos after and even in Paris just useful you're not just leaning us here so they're leaning the first part of the power show you're leaning after the libraries and therefore says there's no problem of taruma is and this Minogue has already gotten traction and momentum for many many years and therefore the following since the minnow gets to follow this and to stand everyone is obligated to stand and nobody could remain sitting by doing so um you're sort of challenging he says like this he says there were since Dominicans for everyone to stand it would seem that everyone's obligated no one should remain sitting even though it's not man I didn't to stand up at the Chicago Cubs and now that everyone is to otherwise if you're sitting you look like you're you don't treat it with respect okay so it's a very interesting True Value regarding whether it's permitted to stand during the Assassin and the shoyel of the question was none other than his son Feinstein shlita and ravdavid asked his father foreign and Cesar Maisha he says there are those who are my fact big of outstanding based on the gemara that says and therefore it would seem that people may say that if we stand for ourselves at the voice the same supplies well some want to answer and this is the answer given by the likute is a three-volume work of halacha that we have a very good reason to stand for this what's the reason the reason is because they stood there's a good reason to stand they didn't have cheers party rental companies had not been they didn't reach the mid bar and then over to to sit and the Sands was very hot on that day so what are they gonna do they had a stand well says ramosa it's a bad reason why I'm sure hazal when they wanted to Institute to say that Sarah said diverse every day in uh Krishna they also had a good reason to do so but they said it's not kadai lest the meaning say this is the only Tyra so says on Maisha we see from here that good reasons are irrelevant that reason reason but ultimately what weighs out is the fact that we're worried that people are going to say this is the only Torah so very nice you have a nice reason to stand on shibuous but we should be worried that people are going to say the answer that you my dear son are giving is a good answer what answer did give David said that maybe in the olden days when people would stand for there was it looked problematic but nowadays there's so many things we stand for we stand for the Shira and bashalach we stand for the Shira on SRI I would add we stand for the so the fact that we stand for many many intervals indicates that that when I were in other words nobody we're not worried people are going to say this is the only Tire because it's not the only thing we stand for if it would be the only thing we stood for then maybe we should be concerned but nowadays that there are many many things to stand for it's not a problem however says omosha your answer of David is a good answer but I'm gonna say better I'm gonna say it's not even a question to begin with meaning you're giving an answer but I'm gonna say it's not even a question why so much explains first of all I'm in number 15. 15 I'm in paragraph debris deity beginning like the sixth line but Moshe says why did they say the assertsa de bruis in the base what was the purpose of it so ramesha quotes the rambam and the parishama shanayas on tamid in the beginning of the fifth parag raphs are the fundamentals of emuna why were they not afraid in the basement that people would say this is the only timeout well because she had Hashem you had levium you had yesem you had the Sanhedrin there yeah the lishkasagasas there and if we would hear a word that the goyam are taunting oh this is the only Torah we would very quickly put it to rest with the authority of the Tami and the sagosis and the sanheden that were situated there however once you get beyond the confines of the base when you have without enough to defend therefore you also can't stand during during the recitation no there's a cloud in ladamusa linosa you can't say well said a certain decree on certain circumstances will extrapolate and apply to other cases we don't know exactly why the decided to be Geiser in that case and we have no right to extend it to other situations therefore you can say it publicly in shul during the birkasma but we never found that they said you cannot stand for the asserts and therefore lafizes however there's a big problem over here because this question was raised well before by the way and according to based on what emotion is saying that would be a very strong Heather to write that Sarasota Boys on a plaque that's displayed for the tea board because again the gemara says that they only disallowed the recitation of the cersa de Royce and Alberta's Chris does not say that they said you cannot display that Sarasota if you can't lean in the middle certainly you can't just lay on the wall you can't make from from enactments that we don't necessarily know the bottom line reason for we applied the rule around says it's precisely the same gazera perhaps you could make the case that the same way ramosha says you could stand for that Sarasota because that is not precisely ruled out by the same token you could say that you'd be allowed to display the assess you know on the new Hebrew one where they actually display the Jewish celebrities which are square you could do that you could even do it on the English one I wouldn't recommend doing it rounded on the top like some people do because that has nothing to do with the the dimensions of the Lucas which is we're square but nevertheless it should come out that just because Krishna it should be permitted to display it publicly on a countries here's the mill here's the big problem the problem is that ramosha was not the first to deal with the Shayla that this Shiloh is as old as the Hills in fact the very first time that this Shiloh appears you know who has asked the question the round on himself it's the rambam I I didn't get to that round Mom it's okay yeah but if you look at number 31 we're going to skip to number 31 for a little bit was asked about this exact question they asked the rambam idas is Commander that we do this and there are those who refrain from this the heavy Raya from the fact that there was because of the meaning than the rest of the Torah and they said that anyone who stands during that sarasada we should scream at them because this is the ways of the minim who believe that that says that this is more important than the rest of the Torah and says the rambam the rambam quotes this opinion that we know throughout Shas whenever people whenever there's a practice which is contrary to the practice of the we go out of our way to shame it and to go the other direction for example the minute was that the koyan who burned the para we would make that who would say that the Cayenne has to be tahar and says the ram the the questioner says to the ramam others wanted to say that no you should stand because Cloud you saw at the time of the giving of the Torah were standing you know and the others said back no that is that they came out to greet her colorful but not that we have to stand and the questioner said I in bubble they stand no they're not standing for assisted living they're standing because the rub or the Russia gets the Aliyah and therefore they stood in honor for the rub going up to the safer Torah but from there it developed the bad practice of standing at the time in Korea so all of this information was presented to maimonides the Ramba and the rambam responded this mentioned that you should sit during the kriya is true and all of Israelis and we don't have to add and this this is what should be done in every Seaboard that The Minnow gets to stand you need to stop them from standing why because it's going to cause people to err in the fundamentals of emuna people are going to begin to think that the only Tarzan debris I everyone's doing it poof since there says a rambam really since when is everyone doing something a reason to do it says if you pass by a hospital and you see 506 people should you then check yourself in into the um into the in the cardiac unit and maybe you should ask the doctor to get you sick and inject you with a lethal illness because everyone in the hospital is sick says around them you'd be a sheita no just the opposite whatever you could do to get the guys out of the hospital you should try to do that says around the same thing with Judaism we don't care what people do we care what the right thing is if they're right then you follow them and if they're wrong get them out of the hospital you don't follow what the Elam is doing says around um the same way you don't check yourself into a hospital where people are sick because that's what everyone that's where everyone seems to be and therefore the random says it is absolutely wrong to stand for this so here's the thing was a place to khadar but what about the rambam but Moshe was a reshine kind of emotion argue on the rambam well come to a value Yosef in the south of Chicago and ravavadya says with all due respect to many of the Great poiske doreno it seems that they did not have the bikias and they did not see the chuvas haramba says um look at number 33. he passkins and he defends the practice of standing and his father of also says they both forgot to mention the chupasarambam and even though the Escalade mentions he still disagrees says we do not follow akronim who ignore the rambam says if you're in a show where they stand you have to throw tomatoes at them you have to be moja they're violating and certainly sitting and this every man wants to stand because he thinks he's the best romant doesn't he know you're now to be mahmir in front of him well that's just speaks quite kindly here and he says it even stronger where he says what do you mean they didn't see it it was a manuscript form in the times defended negative harambam smile right but since the rift and the rush don't comment and all you have is the rambam Avada we follow the Rama nobody argues with the ramam no reason to argue with the rambam if the rambam says we follow the rambams and therefore says anyone who says otherwise in this subject nothing this does not say one word about whether you had a stand or whether you're not allowed to stand during that race wasn't imprint of course he didn't see it and therefore Caesar of avadia this is not one of those things that if you're in a shul you say uh Live and Let Live this is America you follow Europe I follow my rub you follow your Minogue I found my no there's no Minogue if they're in the hospital and you need to remove them and extricate people who stand from the base and you should be mocha so the question is what about rev Maisha did emotions see the chuba sarama so there are two things there are two ways to go over here number one it's well known the shita ramesha is you don't have to look in all this Farm and uh achuva of the rambam which is not one of the main swarm that were nimsar midar ladar after all it was a manuscript form may say that we're not bound by yachuba the ramam the Raman would have wrote in the anakazaka then we're Bound by it but the fact that the ramam wrote this and certainly but most you would not say he's as great as a rambam but it was not given over from generation to generation and we're not bound by the chuas around them although it would be difficult why ramoshu did not quote the chuva saramam after all this very question there of David Feinstein answer mosha was already addressed and that she was around if ramosha once maybe he could say that even though the two surrounded answer is this but this is a chuva that was not given over from generation to generation therefore we're not bound by it so therefore we're going to take a different approach today we're going to take the approach of brisker to try to defend the practice of I would say the vast majority of Ashkenazi duri from the churama raise your hand if you dive in an ashkenaz Shula and they sit for that Sarasota device I didn't think so I'm not aware of any ashkenazic Jewel that they sit for that Sarasota device this fired him by the way they absolutely sit for that sir so their voice and they're required to sit around them says you gotta Sidra value says you have to sit and do Spiderman stand for us at ferlining expire them do they stand they don't they said for laning fire them sit for laning nobody stands so not even one guy not even what you heard that you heard it here first not even one guy in this project show stands except for the valkyrie stands for ourselves at the price and therefore they certainly don't stand for that service they don't stand for landing on San Francisco so they're both so the question is how do we Jews of ashkenazic descent defend our custom from an open Shiva sarambam who says you're now allowed to stand and if you stand we throw tomatoes at you and not fresh tomatoes either we throw old Tomatoes at you how do we defend our practice let's spend a few moments talking about the SRS at the voice because you know this whole Shyla is surrounded about the fact that people are going to say that ass are more important than Russell Terra well are they or are they not they're not so then why do they say it in the basement is it is more important than that more important well let's take a look let us take a look marvelousai let us we mentioned the rambam says that they used to Lane it in the base because the fundamentals of faith half love a fella the medrish and babida number 16 says on the words that if you take the word qatares and you add bash the kuff and you transform the koof into a dalid so then you get what number dalid Tess rage tough 613 why because do you know how many letters are in the aceres had debris 613 until you get to the letters so you have 613 plus another seven says the Madras there's 613 letters in the assess and you have another seven Canal get the seven days of creation by the way the balaturim in Paris yesterday number 17 points out that there are two um 620 letters in that sarsa debris can I get the 613 mitsuice and the seven minutes the seven mid-sized by the way the Prima goddam in the last also brings down based on the tradition of stuff there's 613 this is a well-known statement without any Mac like us and the balaturum brings down 620 letters 613 Connecticut to 613 midsize and seven mid-sliced drabana by the way others have it a little differently instead of excuse me instead of the six uh the balaturum says 613 midst and seven Mitzvah is some say instead the seven the seven mid slice so for example look at number 19. the example in the Taurus moisture in parashas Israel brings down their 613 midsize in the 613 letters in the asserts connected the 613 midsize plus who are your friends the rabbis the rabbis are your friends so the seven letters in Australia correspond to the Sheva mitsoists aleph stands for Avalos which is one of the shamists basically you have various ways to go you have 620 letters can I get the 613 mid slice Zion connected either of the Shiva Mrs so that's pretty interesting that somehow the assassadores correspond to the whole Torah bosai when moisturbanos saw that you saw were worshiping the egal what did he do with the lucris he broke them why did he break them you should return them and got his money back why did he break them the answer is they cannot get the Torah so you should have ripped up the Tyra why did he break the Lucas apparently the luchais are somehow the whole Tyra I'll give you another maramaka look at number 27. Isam says Rashi KO sheish all 613 mid slaves are included in the sarsa debris in fact you're going Road appeared we are each Deborah corresponds each deeper contains you know 61.3 mid spice let me ask you a question it says that the King has to sit on his throne and he has to write and it should be with him his whole life cestosis you're telling me he wrote a safe return that fit in his hands how you can write a safe return that fit in the hands of the melach says and since they're 613 letters in our services it's called the safer Tyra so can I ask you a simple question is more important than the rest of Tyra or not more important than wrestler we landed in the base obviously because it's more important we don't lean it as it is because it's not more important you can't have it on a plaque because we don't want people to say that's the only Tyra And yet when moisha broke the luchaist Maisha said I'm just breaking the Lucas because this is the whole Tyra so is it the whole Tyra or is it not the whole Tyra is it more important is it not more important is it is what is the meaning of that Israel does it have kashibos does it not have hashivas the ramam said don't you dare Lane up at seabor so then let me ask you a question the rambam didn't say don't stand because it's not more important the ramam said don't stand because we don't want people to say this is the only Torah so why were they standing in the first place however I both say there are two traps with which you could Lane there's something called the time Elgin and there's something called The Tam taftan for instance what's the time sin of lie yeah and the Consciousness they don't have the Trap right so let's go to parashas vaskhanan which is a very important parashah because I didn't say Patrick is kind of not coming up okay you ready listen carefully in the Tom Elion in the time Elgin 10 million it says like this you know Tom Thompson it says like this is and then the Temptation is a Villa Village it's a very simply what does it depend on so it depends on the following there are certain letters in the Hebrew alphabet that are called beget Cafe means a base agimal a dalid a cuff a pay and a tough can have a doggation and should have a doggish in it so the letter tough should normally have a dogish in it so it should be Loy tierza but there's a rule that whenever a baguette Cafe's letter a letter with a dogish is preceded by a vowel for example an olive it drops the next letter that has a dogish drops the vowel and therefore it should be Loy sirtzac like in the Tom taktine so why in the tamilian is it Lloyd tier saw the answer is there's another rule because stop and if you don't according to Mr Romance don't realize that when you Lane and there's a typical you must pause and if you don't pause then you're not doing a good job you have to know to pause there um if you don't pause then you're you're running over a trap which is a mela so so just listen carefully so in the time because since there's no s um there's no tip after the word Loy so the word Loy and certain go together the olive causes the tough to drop the dog age and it's Leicester but in the time there's a tip crap to the word Loy so even though the aleph proceeds the tough but there's a pause after the lie and therefore the lion connected and therefore it's fine what is the fundamental difference between the time Eliana very simple the time is how you read all right so in the first two debris you have many many episodes we break it up into it is breaking them up into the chameleon says we're not looking at sukum now we're looking at debris so while there are many in the tamelion it's all one long pasok is breaking them up into debris but as a Deborah it stands by itself so the difference between the time Toxin and Tom elyin is a tampacto in Arab so Kim and the tamilian are aceres had the rice more important than the rest of the Tyra and the answer is it depends they are not more important than any other has no more kadusha as a possible than the possible every word of Torah has equal kadusha every possible has equal kadusha and therefore as a town it is no more important than the rest of the Tiger but as a Deborah as aceres hadib rice in what way in the following way that it has hashivas that it's representative of Kala tarakula as apostle has no more as a Deborah Cesar upside you're going each one of the aceres represents 70 60 minutes as Tom talkstone it's not any more khushive as tamelio and it is wow so come to stay for Harry kadam and he quotes the Joshua salavechik ra is saying this over from brisker and I heard from reliable sources that this is already me based Med Russia of the graph I heard this from and said the following does not talk and mention anything about tamilian you know why because the shita of the rambam was La was was you always lay in the tomtastine you always Lean sukim Like sukim whether it's yes so if you always lay in the assets suck him Mela it is also to stand for that Sarasota de bruise because to give more hashibos topsuki is more than any other episode you know how to do that and taco if you're in a show that they lay in and people stand you throw old rotten tomatoes at them and we're masking to the rambam and ashkenazim are agreed to the randomness that you're not allowed to stand for us if it's being laned with Tom talkstone foreign by the way it's good to know that when you're being Maverick sedra you always learn the time however ones Dominos because two Dimensions to it every Korea satira is Lima datira however the chrisatara of schwizz has another dimension and what is it it's and the best way to memorialize harcinai is to read the Torah the way the Torah was given on harcina and that is it was given as a sarsadibrise and therefore to Lane it the tamilian and therefore the round down would be muskim that if you lame the Torah of the Town Elion of course you'll at a stand because you're not giving more hashiba to these sukim over other you're giving to them as debris and as debris they have a representative quality that gives them a advantage over the rest of the Torah now the birha brings down foreign and therefore for those who Lane batam you're not violating the tuba sarambam by standing because I'm not sure which trapped Elaine look how are they laying the time in Illinois and they feel the rambam the ram mom would say it doesn't matter light plug you're not allowed to stand for the assessor debris but to say that we ask inazim are violating or encounter this distinction to the Chivas haramba by standing we have you know alumnush a way out of it and that is we could say the Rahman was referring specifically to the Tom we are entitled to stand and follow the custom of amida for the assault device you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com