Shabbat: The Kiddush Laws - Part 2 - Rabbi Reuven Lauffer

[Music] oh so last last thing we learned right with the middle of Kish over the last thing that we learned was that you uh the person who makes Kish has to be over by mitf does that sound familiar yeah I ask you was if someone passes you the wine oh that's the last thing hasn't passed you the wine then if the person's drunk from the wine who made kidish then you can pass it on and if not then you need to drink it without passing it up good okay what do we do what what kind of cup can you use to make kidish with has to hold a certain amount of liquid right oh that's for sure is no that's that's down the road you're in you're in the wrong Seminary right now um the uh so the cup first of all it needs to be something which is complete it shouldn't be chipped it shouldn't be cracked and it should be completely clean so some people have the custom to rinse out the cup right before kides just to make sure that it's got nothing inside of it the uh wine should be poured straight into the Becka right before you make kides so it you should not pour out the wine and then wait and wait and wait and wait right so if you if you know that it's going to take a little while for everybody to get themselves ready and to get themselves into place so you should wait and let everybody get themselves at the table before you start pouring the wine into the Bea and the wine should be filled up to the top sorry the cup should be filled up to the top um what does up to the top really mean do everybody always that's an interesting question because up up to the top could According to some opinions it means that up to the top so that when you pick it up it spills over a little bit can't that's that's what's called one second we'll get to it we'll get to it that's that's what that's what's called a he's English what did he say say it's too messy for him SP English a very very clean very orderly people go watch a football game you'll see really I when I when I got engaged so we went to we went back to London to make a you know make meet my parents and family and make an engagement party and my wife had never been to England before so everyone told her before we left so you're going to love it you know it's very London is very sophisticated it's very cultured um so we get on the Underground the first day what you people call the uh Subway the subway in Boston um well everything's comes back to the tea in Boston doesn't it um the uh the so we get we get onto we get onto this train on the subway on the Underground and uh we're sitting there trying to trying to get down into town so that we can do some sing and some there was there was an international football game that was going on so a whole bunch of English supporters get onto this train and they are you know with what how whatever you can imagine in your mind you know plus worse than that they they were uh you know with there with their boots and beer and cursing and swearing and their skin heads and they had beer before the game in after oh no they're not they're really not particular the British before during after gone after no you get more oh really oh well it wasn't then anyway so you know and you know there was I don't know there was about 10 or 12 of them there was quite a sizable bunch and I I thought we were going to die actually I really did you know they come on there they're swearing and they're pushing and they're shoving and they're like they're they're looking you can see they're looking for a for a fight and I thought I thought we were going to die and uh anyway that bar they had to get off the train to get onto another line so they get off the train and we sort of like you know we start breathing again and then my wife wife looks at me she says uh cultured H sophisticated so that's English cultured and sophisticated more to it than there's more to it than that no he's right it's true there's also throwing rolls of toilet paper onto the football pitch what else do they do life in England beyond the football hooliganism actually it is true in the summer they have Cricket hooliganism when people people pour too much lemonade into the pins or something it's like completely out of control sure but it's completely out of control anyway um according what the idea is like this when you fill up your cup to make kidish you're filling up something called a c sh which means a a cup of blessing right you it should be now cups of blessing should be your you know there's a there's a phrase I don't know if they have it in English but in Hebrew that your cup of blessing should overflow they probably have that in English as well I would have thought don't they right your blessings should overflow um it's a sign of it's a sign of of goodness it's a sign of affluence um and that's why that's that's where the custom comes from um now some people are of the opinion that you can't do it deliberately because there is a which says b you're not allowed to waste things you're not allowed to waste food not on a waste drink um so what some people do is that they'll fill the cup up to the top with with the knowledge you know that Mo most people their hands shake a little bit right so when they pick it up they know that it's going to spill over a little bit but it's not you haven't deliberately spilled over the top right you know the one about the fellow goes to the doctor he says this says doctor he says look at my hands so the doctor says my goodness he says do you drink a lot he says no he says hardly anything at all careful careful did you bring a bib with you um if you use a like a plate or saucer or something catch spills you can then use that wine yeah yeah anyway so some people don't like to have the wine spill over the top because it gets their fingers dirty and sticky and you know that's an uncomfortable feeling and the truth of the matter is it's fine because normally you're going to make Kish and then you're going to wash your hands anyway for hamotzi afterwards so it's not the end of the world you'll only be sticky for a few moments uh however if you really you you know do feel that it's uh bothering bothering your uh your appreciation and enjoyment of the Sabbath by having Sticky Fingers then uh so fill it up as far to the top as you can get without uh without it you know going to be spill over the top um so can I ask then in terms of the cup should it be um does it matter if it's got a stem or if it doesn't have a stem cuz some people have just a regular cup yeah some people have a it doesn't it doesn't make any it doesn't make any halakic difference what you use what does matter is how you hold the cup now it's interesting when you have you seen cups that have a they've got like a leg a stem yeah right a stem a wine glass St like a wine glass yeah um so you know According to some people what's the idea when you when you hold the cup you're supposed to hold the cup like this right now if you've got a cup without a stem that's easy you just hold hold it on the bottom right if you've got a cut with a stem the question is where to hold it according to some people you hold it down at the bottom you know you've got the stem and then you've got like a little a little base at the bottom so that it can stand so according to some people holding it on the bottom means holding it over there according to other people though the stem is only there for decorative purposes and therefore you should hold the you should hold the cup you know put the stem in between your fingers like that and hold the cup like that with a stem sticking out from underneath they they not very cultured whatever what that's for sure what or or they're so cultured that uh that they just you know streets ahead of everybody else however having again does it does it make any difference it doesn't make any difference whatever you do is going to be correct right just that you should know you might see it being done like this in somebody's house and being done in a different way in somebody else's house holding it like that is not okay holding it like that is not the correct way to hold it it should be held at the bottom is uh the overflowing and the way you hold it are these uh mins are well again over you know overflowing is a Min the way that you hold it is really it should be held at the bottom that really is the fact that the wine should be foled up to the top of the cup is also a locker but there there is room for negotiation right what's the top whether visually it just needs to be at the top whether it needs to be over the top now it's interesting you you asked is is it okay to make Kish on a plastic cup so in theory it is again if the plastic Cup's not cracked and it's not chipped and uh I you can ship plastic cups can you but whatever I mean uh so long as so long it's okay even even plastic disposable cups in theory are okay to make kiddish over however there is a concept which has got not just to do with kidish but it goes across the board of there Kaye V Anu that this is my God and I will beautify him gamar talks about what is K what does that mean this my God and I will beautify him by taking the requirements and turning them into something more beautiful than the simple requirement right so for example if you ever wondered where Juda comes from the concept of Judea you know all these kind of silver things that we've got silver Kish cups and silver candelabra and silver minoras and Silver estr Box holders and all that kind of you know first of all it's an enormous uh it's an enormous industry nowadays right but where where does it come from it comes from the idea of z k is it's true that I can make Kish over a plastic cup I could make Kish over a wooden Cup right I could make Kish over a pottery cup that I made myself however the concept of Z van is that I'm going to take this MIT I'm going to beautified I'm going to embellish the Mitzvah right and that means that I can take silver instead of plastic for example or instead of instead of ceramic yeah and uh and I can I can that way I'm beautifying the Mitzvah now again you have to understand can can I fulfill the Mitzvah by using a ceramic cup yes of course you can right like I said before you can even you can even fulfill your obligation by using a disposable plastic cup am I beautifying the Mitzvah by using something that's more expensive than that yes I am which means I'm I'm I'm embellishing the mitzah the mitz itself is going to be done in whatever cup you decide to use it's going to be done that's Kish has taken care of right however in order to turn it into something more beautiful than it would have been otherwise that's where the silver Kish cup comes from um I never thought this if you haven't listed all these different materials but could you just cup your hands no it's got to be inside of something it's got to be inside of a a CLE some some kind of a vessel um but again I mean aside from that it could really it could really be anything right um what about a plastic cup today you know they beautify it to look like a regular yeah yeah it's interesting you know you got you go to kushin right so people don't like to bring silver cups to kushin because very often these things tend to get lost so what what I've noticed over the last couple of years is that they've started introducing silver looking plastic kidish cups right now is that is that is that embellish yeah I guess that's it's certainly better than just a regular disposable plastic cup um so you know if you can't afford a silver cup you can afford a a silver PL you know plastic silver light cup then I guess it would be correct to buy something like that silver plate which of course is a lot less expensive about glass if it's like being decorated glass as well yeah I know I know somebody who likes to use glass a glass kidish cup on a crystal glass Kish crop on on sanite to be able to see the you know the the color of the wine the redness of the wine um some the truth is that some uh some crystal glasses are more expensive than most silver cups are going to be uh if you want to buy yourself a you know like a laik uh Crystal uh Crystal wine glass it will set you back who knows how much you know hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pounds if not more did sorry you you really look like you're going to say something you're waving your pen around desperately no okay now fine you can't do that you get me excited like that that's not that's not fair I really thought you were going to say something there next time IM next time but anyway that that's where the that concept of Kelly van that this is my God and I will beautify and embellishing Mitzvah is not just something which is particular to kidish it runs across everything right um yeah I give you another example you know Fillin when you buy Fillin there are so many different levels of Fillin but the best quality Fillin that a person can afford to buy that's the equivalent of their K vianne beautifying the mitah right even though the Fillin may not look you know substantially different from the Fillin that cost a lot less than that but anybody who understands some these things will be able to see what the differences are and uh that way the more the more you put into the Mitzvah the more you know the more money you put into the Mitzvah the greater its beauty is going to be so the greater is the worth of that mitzah up in the shamim right so anyway something something that's worth doing um so a silver Kish cup that's where it comes from I interesting my my parents I don't know where it came from uh but my parents had some a rather a rather beautiful and rather ornate wooden kidy cup which they didn't they didn't use it every shabas um it was you know very very finely sanded down and it was covered with glaze and uh it was actually you know very beautiful you could see the grain of the wood all the way through it and everything uh was quite a quite a Darkwood um you know each to their own I've seen somebody use a silver K cup with a plastic inlay oh why why is that because silver and wine don't get on with each other if you pour wine into silver the the I know something to do with the with I don't know what I don't know exactly what the what the correct uh metallic what the correct metallic uh phrases are but there's something about silver and wine it sets off a reaction and that's why you'll see many people uh have they they gild the inside of their kidish Cup gold gold doesn't do that to Wine silver does something to do with the o oxidization I think did I say that right is that yeah now in that instance does the uh silver surround or if you're just using like a plastic cup inside a silver cup does the silver buffer need to be as like clean unbroken everything or does it the plastic cup that a reir good question the EM is like this does does it need to be not really because you're not using it as the cup but it does because everyone sitting around there at the Kish table has that they're watching you make kidish out of this you know this decrepit you know cracked cup that that's tarnished and dented and yeah you know that that's uh I get yeah that that would that would I think it would detract from the beauty of the mitzah even though you're not really right you're not really using the uh the that silver Kish cup at tool yeah then why are you using that cup it's a family aom Rob what about abdulla can you make abdull in a small plastic cup or a regular I have to have a yeah I've had I've had an argument about the amount you dollar before you need you need to drink you need to drink less you need to drink less wine at half dollar than you do at Kish but um it still needs to be enough if you're talking about one of those little plastic shop classes yes then that's not enough M we could you know we'll learn we'll learn the figures and we'll work it out and we'll try to see maybe you should bring in like a coup or two and see what the differences are with the what if you only have a regular candle for it's not so you could what you can do is you can add a match to itll hav Dollar candle requires two weeks oh okay a minimum of two weeks right so if you've only got a one regular candle is all you've got but you've got some matches so when you make the BR you could just add the match to the fire to the wick and then you've got two sources of uh if you only have birthday candles you can use like two birthday candles yeah sure just not the ones that you can't blow out though you you'll be there a week or even worse the ones that sing when you like them happy birthday to you you you um M okay we could be on something here we could we could make a business over here right anyway you people of course are jumping ahead far far ahead we're not up to have dollar we're only on Kish on Friday night right now so what what do we do like with everything inside of Judaism uh theas are detailed right every nothing nothing is left up to um chance everything has to be done in the correct way how are you supposed to lift up you've poured the wine into your cup how are you supposed to lift it up now so the way that originally that the best way initially is to lift up the cup with both hands right again it's it's showing our love of the Mitzvah that we want to utilize both our hands in order to lift it up with all of our strength and then you take the left hand away from the cup and you're left reciting holding the cup in the right hand right is anybody here I just ask if anybody here is left-handed but um I see I can see that nobody is if I were left-handed though if you were left-handed yes um because it's stressy there's so much every time I'm in the sedor and I'm reading do this and your right hand this your left hand i'm I have no idea what hand I'm supposed to be using I need I need to I need to like speak you need a left-handed to do it I need to speak to someone I genuinely need to speak to someone about which hand I using cuz at the in the Shamar in the morning when I'm wearing about to fill in it says that I need to hold my ti my left hand but that means I can't kiss my toing cuz I wear my toing on my right hand yes so if I hold them on the right hand that means I can't place my right hand in front of my eyes to say Shar so I think Judaism is right for you let's find another place that's right paralyzed within decision I I like don't know what to do like which hand I need I'm on M ex and like but I still go to my myone my left see I right with my left hand so I was I wear yeah so the basic h rule of thumb about whether your left handed or right handed is which hand you use to write with yeah uh so Moi here is an interesting fellow but he he uh he writes with his right hand even though his his left side is his strongest side um so that that already is so fine if you write with your right hand that then you're consider to be right-handed and you should put your to fill in on your left hand you on the other hand are degenerate and debed and uh Sinister there's no hope and and English and you uh you write with your left hand therefore you are left-handed and uh that means that under normal circumstances whatever it says just swap it around so when the the the C Is Telling You for you know for normative natural people it doesn't work of course it does neither do I CU it says hold your it says hold your Titus in your left hand yes hold in your right hand okay so I'm holding in my right hand but then I need to kiss my to Fillin so which hand do I used to touch point you are supposed to you listen David you're a big boy yeah now I think you can do both of these at the same time I think you can I really do will do is two feet he you can still have your sits on your yeah but he only moves one at a [Laughter] time do I cover my hand for Shar you should cover your hand with your with your left hand really yes because your right hand is you you should cover your hand with your stronger hand technically my no no don't don't it's got nothing nothing it's got nothing to do with technicality it's do with but I read for to fill in it's different for other things like I'm stronger my the right side of my body is stronger so if I was kicking a ball I'd use my right foot Etc so yeah but you with your again but again listen listen watch my lips yeah halachically the basic definition of whether you are left or right-handed is to do with what you're right with not with not what not which foot you use to kick a ball with so if you write why you trying to write with your right hand let's let's watch this if you if you write with your left hand then you should you should be putting your fill in on your right hand which is what you do isn't it no good finished fine C you should cover your hand with a hand that doesn't have to fill in on it really one more question is it can you shake hand because I mean like if I want oh should shake hand with your right hand i'm to it's still okay to shake hands that's just a social Norm it's not no I know but is it okay to like shake a hand if your hand is holding yeah okay F so does that change his like ra rahum and Di side like should he put on his first no I read I should still put on my right shoes you should still put on your right shoe tie the left one first and tie the left one first which is what everybody does oh I know they said you should tie the one first where you tie your to fill in which means right which is where that's that's where that's where the custom comes from so what what is a what is a a left-handed a left-handed person where bare a left-handed you you read that you should put your you should put your right shoe on first regardless yes because it's your stronger foot my stronger foot but you should tie the shoe which of which hand you wear oh that's I don't know that's interesting weird I think you're weird actually back and forwards inim as well I need should be using different feet or something I think so these ones are no use a book available for left-handed people on like is it backwards you can write you can write you can you can write it the complete art scroll guide to left-handed people I think we're on to a we're we're I'm telling you we're we're onto a this is going to be like the biggest seller of Our Generation I'm telling you the art scroll left-handed version be really useful it's in it's great it's a great idea it really is somebody somebody needs to do it you're right somebody needs to bring out a booklet just explaining to left-handed people what because the truth is that there are times when you're supposed to change there are times when you're not supposed to change so I'll give you an example you know uh when when a left-handed person is the Kazan and today right today there was Kat Tor they took out the seor and they LED right so the custom is that you put the safe for Torah on your right shoulder now that's done even if you're left-handed you should put it on your right shoulder because that's the way that the whole Community does it you're a part of the community right so it's true I think I think I think it's a great idea somebody needs to write a booklet just defining the what what a what a left-handed person is supposed to do when he's supposed to do it and what the difference is you know that doesn't exist already not that I know of how the left can make so if for Kish back to Kish then you said if there's a left hand back to Kish you should be holding the cup in your left hand really because that's your stronger hand wow right again halachically natural holding in my left hand well that's cuz you're left-handed there's nothing natural about left-handed people I'm picking my mug up in my right hand Y what is wrong with you I'm SL this is the thing like I write with my left hand but this is more comfortable than this K man's not supposed to laugh so you know what I if I were you be being serious actually if I were you I would I maybe go and speak to R samit Who's down in the main office in the afternoons normally like from 5 o' onwards um because again like I said before the you know the the simple halakic definition of right handed or left hand is what you write with what you're saying is that you write with your left hand but you do everything else with your right side um which I don't I don't know may maybe that will change maybe that does change the somewhere along the line I'm not sure a left-handed person I've got a son-in-laws left-handed right a left-handed person in general if there you know that's the their left side is their stronger side so he makes Kish he picks up the Kish cup with his left hand um whatever I mean that's that's for that's for I I whatever you know what and if you find out let let us let us know what you're told yeah anyway in all events right ah why we spend so much time on these non-normative degenerate left-handed people I don't know but first time what what what's the problem what's the problem I'm a unique man I'm not sure how you can be a unique minority if if there's only you then you're unique if there's more like you then you're a minority but a unique minority I'm not quite sure how that works so you can write in both hands com it is can ride with my right that's all I that's what my power is wait if somebody's illiterate then they amb be exist as well because they can't write with either hand there you go we've taken care of the problem anyway wa when you come to make kidish for the rest for the rest of us for the rest of us normals when you come to make kidish so you should lift the Kish cup up with your right hand um and if you are left-handed you should lift it up with your left hand um now what you'll notice is that people that are making kid they hold the cup up they normally hold it up a little bit higher from the uh from the table it needs to be about you know a te between four and 6 in above the height of the table and when you're not using the bencher to read the kidish from you should be looking at the wine right which you shouldn't be looking around the table so you should again some people like to use a bencher some people know the benching off by heart in all events when you come to make the blessing over the wine which hopefully at some point you'll be familiar with enough to be able to say it without looking into the sidter so then you should look at the wine right and uh that's that's the way to to do it um when you come to make Kish there's an interesting Al which I'm sure you've all seen and you're all familiar with although you may not know the reasons behind it and that is that the kalas should be covered when kidish is made now the reason for that is because under normal circumstances you make hamo first we normally eat bread right if it wasn't Shabbat or yam and you were you were having a meal and in your meal you were going to have wine How would you do it you would first wash your hands and make H and then during the meal you would make a blessing over the wine right but because for kiddish we have this special uh this special idea from the rabbis from the sages that we should make Kish over wine so we cover the colors in order to respect them respect them right they shouldn't become embarrassed there's a little lesson over here of of course right because if anybody here has ever seen an embarrassed kala or you ever seen a blushing bagel for example then I think you probably need professional help that's just my personal opinion um I often say to everybody you know if we truly loved our kalas if we were truly concerned about their feelings then we probably wouldn't chop them up into little pieces and eat them right we would cherish them and we would look after them and we would take them out from time to time and dance with them maybe pick up the yeah sure sure you're supposed to pick them up you're actually supposed to pick them up from the bottom so that all 10 of your fingers are touching the kalas that you're that whilst you're making the Brock over them but we're jumping the gun over here right we're kiddish theas are covered in order to that they shouldn't become embarrassed that we're going out of order right the correct order is Hamot and then during the meal to make B but because we are making kidish over here so we make the Bro in order not to embarrass the kalas we cover them so the kalas don't realize I guess the kalas don't hear so great right maybe what because they're covered right if they then they don't hear so great and they can't hear the broa so they're not going to get embarrassed now that's of course there's the most incredible little lesson over here um I think I've told the story in the past but it's such a it's such a great story it's worth telling again there was a uh a very great Rabbi in America going back into the 60s and 70s called RMA Feld who was considered to be I mean he was really the the founding the Founding Father of the balua movement in America he was he was most astonishing most astonishing personality he he spoke brilliantly he was charismatic and he was Dynamic and he used to go around all over America to lots of little communities all over the place is trying to give them you know strengthen them a little bit and try to get them to be a little bit more aware of their Jewish identity and wherever he went he was in great demand because he was the most brilliant speaker and uh people used to you know fight over having him come by to be their host to be their guest on chabas so ra frel told this story he said that he was once in a little a little city in America somewhere with a very small Jewish community and after ding on Friday night he got Tak taken back by his host back to his host's home in order to eat the Friday night suda and uh the husband knocks on the door and walks in and it's clear that what has happened is after the wife lit candles she thought she was going to have a little five minute sit down catch a breath after the a of shabas Mayhem and uh you know that little five minute sitdown as obviously turned into a 2hour snooze and as she hears her husband coming into the house she you know wakes up she's completely discombobulated and uh you know the house is a mess the kids have been you know playing and the toys are everywhere and here is the husband coming in with one of the most influential important rabbis in America at the time and the place is a mess so what does he do like every kind considerate thoughtful husband he starts shouting at his wife and uh but of course he can't he can't you know shout at her and tell her off for having gone to sleep because you know ER shabas she' worked terribly hard so what does he do he finds a bit of Hal that he's shouting at her telling her how could you have the kalas on the table they're not covered and we're coming in now how could you do such a thing and Rael said to himself this is ridiculous the reason why we cover the kalas is so that the kalas won't become embarrassed when we make Kish over the wine and here's this man right embarrassing his wife right in front of me about the Kal not being covered he says that's ridiculous and then he explained what what is what is this that you're supposed to cover the what's the idea of it it's very strange so he says the idea is that if we can learn to have a little bit of sensitivity for inanimate objects then who knows right maybe we'll actually get to learn a little bit of sensitivity for animate objects like other people right and it's an interesting idea really is because the EMS is that sometimes it's a lot easier to you know you see people are very kind and considerate to to animals for example you know but they're a lot less kind and a lot less considerate to human beings and there's something wrong right so the idea is that the more the more we work on that you more you know the Kinder the more considerate we are to everything around us the greater hopefully will be our ability to be able to be kind and considerate to other people and maybe not left-handed people but you know obviously you know there's got to be there is there is a limit to how kind and considerate a person can be uh r hutner one of the great one of the great Jewish thinkers and philosophers and rabbis from the previous generation when he was a a b he was a student learning in Yeshiva and he ended up what he he was in I think he was in Berlin and he saw a um he saw somebody walking their dog in the streets of bully this is before the war before the second World War and he saw somebody walking their dog in the streets of Berlin and all of a sudden he picked up his dog and he gave his dog a kiss and R hutner said that a nation that can kiss their dogs can kill other human beings they can murder other human beings wow they' got their their priorities are skewed a little bit so somebody once pointed out to me something very fascinating there is a society in England called the nspcc which is a National Society Prevention of Cruelty to Children we should try try not to be cruel to our children certainly not in a way that other people can see for sure right the nspcc The National Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Children there is another society called the rspca which is the Royal Society for the prevention of cruelty to animals so somebody once pointed out to me isn't it fascinating in England the children it's just a National Society but for Prevention of Cruelty to animals it's a Royal Society right it's an interestes I don't know it's a perspective how how do you look at things it's an interesting idea just a little bit of food for thought I don't know right Rob my hood never say that by the way that's I never because I think I think the you know the idea again that a person has a connection a person who has connection with their uh with their pets it's fine right but when when that connection transcends and it becomes like a human connection so he say at that point they their their priorities are so skewed that they'll go out of their way to save their animals but they won't they you know the humans is there not room for both like I I had a connection with an animal but I'm equally so connected how long have you been feeling like this have you not had a pet dog before I have actually um yeah no not yeah here you didn't hear what I just said out here it's not it's not he's not R hutner is not suggesting that having a you know having a relationship with a pet of some kind or an animal of some kind is anything wrong with that treating their God's creatures we should be treating them with for sure but I mean the Torah itself says that you have to treat animals properly right that which is which is not not that's that's the uh the real rspca right is the the the the Royal Society God right of prevention cruelty to animals which is it's a commandment that's what we're supposed to do that's for sure what R hutner was commenting on was the way that this person's relationship are transcended from being that of a person to an animal to he was treating his pet dog as as if it was another person and that means that the priorities have become skewed to the point where it's not you know things don't here another example I don't want to get involved in a a debate over here but um there are people who are against animals being used for research now if you ask me I think that animals should not be used for any kind of research other than medical research which is going to help make people healthy I think it's ridiculous and I think it's terrible that animals are used for research for example in shampoo or makeup that they have to suffer terribly sometimes right in order for what in order that we should have the right smelling shampoo that's ridiculous right but um if anybody here if you anyone here has diabetes or if you know anyone that has diabetes you'll know that insulin was tested on dogs before it was given to human beings because you can't you know you can't test this stuff on human beings and you got to test it on something to make sure that it works which I I think that medical research is very different from other kinds of research I really do but there are some people who are very radical in their belief that animal in animal rights and they are prepared to blow up Research Laboratories that are using animals right putting human life at danger in order to save animal life now again I and not not to get involved in a debate over here but somewhere along the line to me it seems that a perspective has been lost something like there's a BAL there's an imbalance over here I'm keeping my mouth shut good that's great because I have a lot of thoughts about this I was a vegetarian for 13 years good again I've got I again I I I have nothing against vegetarian no I no I just think it's like the whole skewed I think I think a lot of things are skewed I really do I think a lot of things are skewed inside inside of our inside of our food chain I think a lot of things are skewed as well but I don't think it's quite like that but I still see a difference between you know again medical research on to you know on as opposed to any other kind of research that's using animals which is causing terrible terrible pain and suffering to the animals for really for no reason whatsoever um you know a fellow was driving a horse and wagon and a car came careening around the corner and smacked into him and he's now uh suing the car driver in court and uh the lawyer of the car drive says I don't understand what what are you suing why are you suing my client over you say that you spent six months having to wear a neck brace afterwards right but isn't it true that when the police came and they asked you how you how you feeling straight after the accident you said you were feeling fine so how come all of a sudden now you're claiming hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of Damages it's obviously obviously the whole thing is just a a scam so the wagon driver says I'll tell you what happened he says the police the police arrived a policeman gets out of the car and he walks over to my dog which had been in the car crash and had broken his back and it's whimpering on the side of the road so he takes out his revolver and he killed it blew its brains out then he comes over to my horse which has got a broken leg takes one look and he Blows Its brains out and then he came over to me he said and how do you feel I said just fine just fine anyway uh um I've also heard a practical reason for why we cover yeah which is that we shouldn't be accustomed to uh making Kish first when we can see kala on the table good yeah very good we we need to know that what we're doing is out of the ordinary right right for sure which means that you shouldn't come to imagine that every time when you have a meal during the week and no kidish is being recited but you want to have a glass of wine that you shouldn't imagine that you should make the you should make the B with the wine and then make h good right another reason that's broad is because the Mana that you know the two kalas represent the Mana that was delivered on AR of Shabbat and it came covered underneath and on top it says covered with DW right it had DW on the bottom and DW on the top and the duw on the bottom was to keep it clean and the duw on the top was to keep it fresh and that's why the kalas are normally brought on a Kala board which is a bit on the bottom and covered by a Kala cloth on the top just to give you some kind of a visual representation I don't know if you've ever seen this but there are some people that have the custom to put a Kala cloth underneath the kalas and a Kala cloth on top of the kalas as well right again to represent the due not just relying on the kala board itself but to put something else over there as well whatever could it just be so that it's a you know they're not just any old loaves of bread these are the for sh so it's kind of beautifying yeah definitely I mean again for sure once once you've got the custom that you're supposed to cover theas what are you going to cover it with that's why you'll find in many homes very ornate kala covers you know again everyone according to their own taste so some people like you know um Whatchamacallit velvet ones with lots of silver silver um thread right and some people like them made out of leather and some people made them like out of this and out of that and out of all kinds of things right did we finish Kish and if we did we get sidetracked on no no we're just no we're still in Kish just one one last I mean again because it's part of the a Kish that the have to be covered that's why it's over here just one last for today which is definitely connected to the concept of what we've just spoken about According to some opinions not just the kalas need to be covered before kides but any kind of m not needs to be covered as well so that's less of a problem on Friday night because there normally isn't any mut on the table anyway right it's just theas m is okay the broer that you make over cake or cookies or crackers right that that kind anything made with five grains with one of one of the five grains yeah um you know pasta cuscus all that kind of stuff now when you go to a kiddish after Shore for example uh on shabas morning very often everything is out on the table already and there are cakes and cookies and crackers and it's all out over there according to some opinions the same way that you're supposed to cover theas before you make the B PR geen so too you should cover them m not as well because in the order of the blessings you should normally make them as not first and then only then make the BR over the wine now this may come as a little bit of a surprise to some of you because if you go to kushim you know regularly after sh you'll find that most places don't do that most places don't cover the M they don't cover the r and the and the and the biscuits and the cakes and everything they're normally uncovered so that you should know that if you do go somewhere and you see that people are busy covering them up that's where it comes from um good I think I think we're going to stop over here in mitem and MIT tomorrow we'll come back to the idea of of Kish itself right and the the drinking of the wine how much wine needs to be drunk all of the Practical Dimensions that are going together with [Music] it [Music]