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Shabbat "Kel Na Refa Na Lah" Previewed with Rabbi David Fine of Israel's Barkai Center
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Nachum Segal interviewed Rabbi David Fine, Head of the Barkai Center for Rabbinical Training and Community Development, about the observance of Shabbat "Kel Na Refa Na Lah," this week to raise/maintain awareness of the over 20,000 injured IDF soldiers from the current war. Rabbanim in the Diaspora are being asked to designate this coming Shabbat as a day of prayer for our soldiers in remembrance of the prayer said by Moshe for his sister Miriam in this week’s parsha, "אל נא רפא נא לה."
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Uh Sabbi David Fine uh contacted me
earlier in the week.
He lives in Modí and he's been in Israel
I think for the last 18 years or so
and uh he runs a rabbitic training
organization for Israeli Hebrew rabbis
and they have a project
that is happening this Shabas and once
we once we heard about it
we said uh hey we've got to get this on
the air. Uh the Shabbat is entitled
Kelar Allah from this week's parabal.
They're asking rabbis and synagogues all
over the world to raise awareness of and
davin for injured soldiers.
It has the support of many rabbis and
groups all over the world. I'm glad to
hear that
and is very important for the future
well-being of the injured.
Yeah, I would imagine that that's true.
Rabbi David Fine from the Holy Land. A
pleasure to welcome you to JM in the AM.
>> Thank you so much, Nalcolm. It's a
pleasure to be here.
>> We We don't even understand. I'm not
even talking about people here on this
side of the world because we really
don't get it. But even those in Israel
who, you know, for whatever reason are
lucky enough not to be in that space, we
don't realize just how many injured
soldiers there are and how many of them
became
um victims
of the most recent war, obviously
starting back um on October 7th of 203.
For for those like yourself who are
familiar with that arena, is it an
overwhelming situation? Are there just
so many and we don't realize the impact
that it's having on so many families in
the holy land?
>> Right. So uh I happen to be very aware
of the numbers and the issues because
the rabbitic training program which is
called Barai which you mentioned at the
beginning we have trained over a 100
rabbis all over Israel and many of them
have in their communities uh soldiers
who have been uh injured. So there are
probably there at least over 20,000
injured and there are probably many more
that for whatever reason especially
people who who are you know mentally
injured let's put it that way who don't
want uh people to know and don't get
reported but it's very overwhelming and
you're right even in Israel uh sometimes
it uh it it the awareness is is not
enough and it's interesting I was I've
been listening for the last few minutes
so I heard the gal sahan lmberg
who was just buried So the people who
are the the soldiers who are killed
Shalam or unfortunately you know they're
on the radio and and and and as they
should be and people hear about them but
a lot of the the hundreds of people who
soldiers who have been injured over the
past few weeks, months, whatever it may
be, you know, no one really knows about
them and they have to go on for weeks,
months and years really uh trying to get
better and it's really under the radar
screen. And so what we're trying to do
is raise awareness about this and to
dive in
>> the um and that's the point of the
entire Shabbat, right? The point of the
entire Shabbat is to let people like us
around the world, especially again
outside of Israel, there's less
awareness um understand the situation
and uh and try and sympathize somewhat
for what our brothers and sisters are
going through over there. And um I I I
would hope that I don't know the
soldiers and their families, I would
hope if they knew that this was
happening, and I assume a lot of them do
know that it's happening, that they'd
get some type of relief, some type of uh
of um comfort from the fact that, you
know, Jews around the world actually are
concerned and are dedicating time uh
during services this Shabbat to keep
them in mind and to pray for them.
When I tell some of the soldiers and
their parents uh that Jews all over the
world are praying for them, it literally
brings tears to their eyes and it uh it
is of enormous help uh in in a in a
medical way. I mean even so it's you
know very very important and there are
studies by the way I've been a rabbi for
many years so I know some of these
things there there are studies that show
that people get better even when they
don't know that people are domining for
them it still has some kind of uh
effect. So it's extremely important uh
that it happen all the time. Uh we're
we're hoping we're hoping that at least
this shabas it will be emphasized in in
shs around the world. Um there are I
mean look shabas is late you know in
this in this area it starts in about 13
hours. There's still time rabbis and
community leaders who would like to
participate and really gain from all the
uh material that you've released and
made available to rabbis. I mean, I
assume they could still do that before
Shabas. These days, everything's online.
What do you What will you say now to
those who are tuned in who want to have
a role in this very special Shabbat?
>> I will just say that unfortunately it's
not all online because this was supposed
to be a guide for rabbis. And so I sent
it in rabbitic channels in WhatsApp
groups and on, you know, the RCA list
serve and all that. But so many people
found out about it and sort of that ship
has sailed. So, while it's not online,
uh I would be very happy to send anyone
a copy of the 26-page booklet that we
made with materials including activities
uh for families and for children and for
youth. Uh all you need to do is write to
me, you know, email me at Rabbi Fine,
Rabb I Fe, at Israel Rabbis, that's one
word, I s a lra rabbis.org,
and I'd be very happy to send. But even
if you don't have our material, there's
enough uh there's enough material in the
in our in our misora to dive in for uh
people who need it. And even if people
at the mishab for the which I assume
most say they people if people could
just make and especially this shabish
just uh make it a little bit more
pronounced that we're doing for our
brothers and sisters in Israel. uh
because like you said unfortunately even
in Israel it's sometimes uh forgotten
about and uh one I'll just end with uh
with one of our one of our rabbis uh in
Barai uh from Ofim his name is Harab
Shakar Bkak he actually uh fought with
terrorists on the morning of October 7th
uh and he was very badly injured in his
leg actually the terrorist that uh was
was shooting him or that shot him was
wearing an IDF uniform so even though
Harab Shakar knew that it was a
terrorist. This he hesitated for a split
second cuz he he couldn't shoot somebody
who was wearing an IDF uniform and uh
that was on October 7th and he is still
while he's while he's doing well and
speaking and rabbing and all that he
still is suffering uh and is an enormous
amount of pain uh almost all the time.
So he's just one example but there like
I said over 20,000 and uh and they're
they're they're ill from they're injured
soldiers from previous wars. Uh so we
ask everyone to just really uh you know
be no and to to just think about every
everything that's going on and to and to
pause and to to remember and to daven.
>> Wow. You know I fine you just uh gave us
a in what you just said. You gave us a
piece of practical advice. I know that
this is mundane compared to the bigger
picture, but there are synagogues that,
you know, know of lists and lists that
continue to be published of soldiers who
are injured who need our prayers. Um for
some schulsa that might be impractical
to actually recite each name as they're
conducting the mishaber for those who
are ill. But as you just said even a
general statement about those who've
been injured uh you know in the most
recent war those who have been injured
in you know terrorist attacks and
serving in the Israeli army would be
extremely beneficial because it would it
would remind everybody in the shul that
this is a significant group that we're
praying for. So I think it's a good
piece of practical advice. I I'll just
say uh based on what you just said that
uh I send out a a list of uh seriously
injured soldiers every week to a lot of
my rabbitic colleagues in America. Thank
God Barak Hashem Bai and Har. It's it's
only around 20 to 30 uh people soldiers
every week meaning obviously that's
tragic but you know it could be a lot
more than that but if anyone is so 20
names could be said so every chabas so
obviously those are only the seriously
injured and recently seriously injured
but if anyone wants to get on my list uh
they're more than welcome to contact me
again rabbi fine at Israel rabbis.org RG
>> uh Rabbi Ka Cavode, what can I say? It's
really an overwhelming conversation
because we don't realize what's going on
over there and just how uh how devoted
the soldiers are and the price that
they're willing to pay to support and to
defend the people of Israel, the state
of Israel, and the land of Israel. And
uh this is a very very important
reminder about that. So Colin,
>> thank you. Thank you. And just a
personal note, uh people could dive in
for my son uh who's in uh Gaza as we
speak. So I'd appreciate that as well.
>> Wow.
By fine. Have a shabbat shalom and I
hope it's a very
>> Thank you. It's a really a pleasure.
Have a great shab and everyone should
dive in hard.
Thank you.
>> Yeah, Kela is right.
Um, yeah, maybe we should do the
mishabak this week at that aliyah
instead of waiting for the uh for the
end of laning. Maybe we should do the
mishabarak for those who are ill and
right either before or right after that
aliyah
bring even more awareness
to the project.
Uh, you can reach Rabbi Fine, Rabbi Fine
at israelabbis.org.
Rabbi fine f i ne atrael rabbis.org