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good evening
everybody I I don't think I don't
remember if I was here last uh last
month but either way it's good to be
back at Arava and it's good to see that
all of you have taken time to um uh to
come and learn Torah and it's important
to you and I hope to make tonight worth
your while so my name is benan clat if I
haven't had Theus of meeting you before
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so tonight's talk is called Love is in
the
detail and that's sort of a vague title
very often I give vague titles in order
to leave me a little bit of a wiggle
room depending what's going on in CLA at
the moment and what do I want my
audience to hear and when I say my
audience it's not just you but I'm very
aware that when I speak over here it
comes out in Torah anytime and thousands
of people watch it and therefore what
does CLA need to hear now I am not a
rashab bahag so it it would be sort of
presumptuous of me to say that I have
the answers for what CL needs to hear
I'm just a babus and I can tell you
based on uh what I feel and um what I
hear on the streets in in my
house what what the issues are at the
moment and I think the title is
appropriate Love is in the detail now
when you hear that title you think we
must be speaking about us Andes and
we're speaking about the details of the
Mitzvah that would be your obvious
conclusion the truth is uh I was
thinking of speaking about that but
that's not going to be my talk tonight
uh we're going to speak about a
different kind of love and a different
kind of
detail we're living
in historic times and what's going on
now in the news has us more than just a
little bit
confused there is a term for from people
that is used by Israelis by people who
are secular and even by people who are
from and the term is called
K
now if you grew up from and I would have
asked you perhaps 2 years ago how many
of you are K I think most of you would
have put up your hands I want to do a
little experiment how many of you are
K just for the audience over here we
have like six people raising their
hands so there's been this
amazing perhaps scary
shift and the question is is it Sam
Antics or has K come to mean something
else and how has that interfaced with
the rest of CLA Israel and what is it
about that term that has most of you
keeping your hands at your side when we
use the word Ki what is
it
now we know that the Press is
notoriously unreliable and they will use
whatever word uh fits their agenda so if
somebody has something very strong that
they believe in in Judaism they're
called Ultra Orthodox Ultra like
toothpaste Ultra bride we're Ultra
Orthodox we do things in an ultra away
I'm not I'm not quite seeing the ultra
you you you know how the you know how
the media does play both sides of the
coin for example in the in the Israeli
media the religious don't go to the
Army but that's ridiculous because the
Army is full of religious people no when
they mean religious they mean the k they
don't go to the Army but of course the
Army is full of people who are uh who
are Shas it happens to be so so
therefore they're not called the
religious except that when the media
wants to speak about
settlers they say the zealots or the
ultra religion religious who camp out in
these settlements except that those are
not those are actually those people who
serve in the army that they didn't want
to include in K but now all of a sudden
they are including them so depending how
they want to use the ultra
term Ked is one of those terms
that over the past few months we have
come to shy away from and perhaps the
imagery demands it for we've heard of
stories in in Ramat bees we've heard
about spitting on little girls or saying
nasty things or pushing people to the
back of buses and being intolerant just
today and just just to understand that
when you've got the secular or even
religious crowd speaking about k a
certain way just today the United States
government issued a warning
you heard about this unbelievable the
new warning that just came out today was
that tourists who are touring Israel and
are coming to Jerusalem should make sure
to dress
modestly because if they don't then the
the ultra religious May harass them and
stone them so the US state department
has advise us tourist to dress
theistically in
Yus so they're doing what the what you
know what May's not been able to
accomplish that's what's going on
here but there's something about it that
we're really uncomfortable with because
we say look we all agree with itus I
mean at least everyone here in this room
you're dressed in a away and even if you
have a and we all have n and I know for
a woman
the something little tighter fitting
elusive it's a big new sign but you
understand that there's an an optimal
State of Affairs which is that you
should be dressed theistically that's
the goal that's the goal that you want
to reach even so we cringe at a reaction
of spitting on someone because they're
dressed a certain way or even
embarrassing them right isn't that true
don't we cringe and when we hear a group
of people who are really out there and
they're they just will do whatever it
takes to get their way so we pull back
well that's not us so who are
we are we diti are we Ki are we modern
are we from are we yish oh my goodness
gracious did you know it's really tough
and you never really have to think about
this until you fill out a uh a sh
profile
online and then all of a sudden you got
it I'm a modern orthodox mmir internet
with a filter but I'll use a gisha
filter you know you've got all
these this juggling act you try to
identify yourself but the one thing that
that today at least because of what has
happened around is that we're staying
away from is this word K and I think we
need to figure out should we be staying
away from it or maybe K is a good thing
and what they are doing maybe is even K
it's something totally different that
the media has stamped as if they're the
H calling it K and K is an actually it's
a wonderful thing okay it's very
confusing now in order to make heads and
tails of what Ked
is I would like to start off saying the
following a person has has to be in love
withes we've often said Judaism is not a
religion it's a relationship and if you
haven't heard it go to the Tor
anytime bunch of videos who speak about
this idea we're in a
relationship now if you're in a
relationship there's a famous mush the
mush comes from the D maged and used it
for something a little bit different but
it it applies over here as well and the
musle goes like this there's a very
wealthy man
whose youngest son was getting married
so he calls his two other he has two
other children one who's very wealthy
one who is very poor he calls the
wealthy son in and he says listen for my
covet I want you to come to Thea looking
your best you your children your wife
and therefore buy the nicest clothing
the nicest dresses rent the limo and
tell your brother also so I will pay for
everything I want you to come dressed to
the nines so this guy comes home tells
his wife guess what Dad said he said we
can dress any way we want we could buy
designer Italian suits we could buy
beautiful dresses and they'll pay for
everything so they went out and they
splurged and they bought and they bought
and they and and they the kids were
dressed each one looking like little
prince princes and princesses the day of
the came they hired their limo they're
driving to the C and all of a sudden
that brother says one second my other
brother I forgot to call him so they
pass by the other brother and say listen
I don't know if you know I was supposed
to let you know the wedding is today you
were allowed to spend whatever but it's
too late just hop in the limo so he says
I'm not dressed and we don't have
anything to wear look you got to come to
the wedding come so here in the limo is
this wealthy family that's dressed
beautifully and then this poor family
that didn't even have the
opportunity to buy new clothing to buy
new dresses and they're sitting in the
limo as well and the father is waiting
by the H hall waiting for his other
children to
arrive the limo pulls up they open up
the door and out comes his first family
and his father he's standing there all
proud yes look at my children look how
beautiful my grandchildren little
princesses and princes amazing beautiful
I'm so
proud and then came the second family
and they come out of the limo and
they're dressed in tattered clothing
with patches and it doesn't fit and it's
dirty and it has stains on it and it's
worn and it's used and each one comes
out looking more pathetic than the
next and this father it looks at them
and he cringes in
Horror oh my goodness what's going on
well the wedding went on and the the end
of the the wealthy son comes into his
father and he says okay Dad I did what
you said please pay me for uh for
everything that I bought here's the bill
the clothing the limo the dresses it's
all
here and the father said I don't
understand what are you giving me he
said Dad this is the bill you said I
should charge you for everything that
you bought that that we bought for the
wedding the father says I don't know
what you're talking about' He says Dad
you said anything I buy for the wedding
you're going to pay for Dad I spend a
fortune so the father says you're
totally mistaken I I don't think you
understand I didn't say anything that
you buy for the wedding I said anything
that you buy for the wedding in my honor
I will pay
for you didn't buy this for my honor you
didn't buy these beautiful dresses and
suits and limos you didn't do it for my
honor if you were concerned about my
honor you would have told your brother
about the wedding you would have made
sure that they were dressed beautifully
that would have been an honor to me you
didn't care about my honor you just
wanted to buy on my dime you're paying
for
everything when we go up to Sham of esam
and we're going to show hasem the
beautiful Mitzvah that we did we're
going to show him the shabas and the and
the and everything and is going to say
beautiful I we say where's my scar I say
no no no t for what you did in my
honor but Hashem I did it in my I did it
in your honor say if you cared about my
honor what about all my other children
are they not my honor are they not my
children do I not care about them I care
about them so much if you cared about my
honor you would have done done something
about them as well so the first question
a person has to ask themselves when it
comes to being a cani when it comes to
being a k is are you doing it for
hashem's honor and what you are doing is
it accomplishing hashem's honor if it is
not if there's no honor to
hasem I don't know it doesn't sound like
this is the K that AES is looking
for what does the word
mean tremble tremble to tremble
trembling tremble it's an interesting
thing in the secular World they like to
speak about the as people who tremble as
if were some kind of psychotic neurotic
oh says eight and this was seven and a
quarter oh it says
Kaz oh my goodness this is right you
can't you can't toar but right and we're
neurotic about everything in Judaism we
tremble because we don't know how to
handle ourselves and we're not down to
earth and we totally totally don't get
whates has in mind for us that's how the
world looks at us but that's not what
the world that's not the word really
means what do you trembling about what
are you trembling about are you
trembling because you're worried that a
is going to Smite you with a with with a
lightning
bolt I spoke at Penn State last week or
two weeks ago and I said how do you
picture God so one of them said I
picture a man in the sky these are not
religious kids obviously I picture a man
on the sky with a Long White Beard and
he has a desk with a button and if I do
anything wrong he smacks on the button
and there's a trap door where I'm
standing W you know the cartoons that's
God God with his trap door I think well
you still have way too many comic books
you know hi we got you right the old
days used to be a lightning bolt today
it's a trap door with a button right the
reality is we're not
scared of
punishment because if if our fear if our
trembling was that kind
ofes besides that would be a really good
Madre to be on for ourselves but if
that's the optimal if that's what Hashem
wants then guess what we are in a
dysfunctional relationship
CU what kind of relationship is worried
about getting smacked in the
face right I make my husband what he
wants so that he doesn't belt me call
the authorities right that's not a
relationship that's called
abuse right of
course but that's not the that we're
talking about when we speak about
trembling what are we scared of it's
simple when you're in a a relationship
and it's not going well what are you
what are you scared of you're scared of
the relationship dissolving you're
scared of the relationship dying you're
scared of getting the silent treatment
you know and the AR KES the Kim stand
for us and aesu and when we and aesu are
not doing well together what happens to
the
Kim they turn around silent treatment
I'm not speaking to well I'm not going
to speak to you either that's the fear
we tremble not out of fear of punishment
but because we want so badly to have
amongst us we want so badly to have with
us we want nothing more than that that's
what we're afraid of even by the way the
punishment that it speaks about in the
toorah that
punishment what is that punishment the
result of
it's not oh Hashem is going to make your
enemies 10 enemies chase after a
thousand enemies and you're going to eat
up your children and all sorts of
horrific punishments but if you look
carefully in the it explains no the
punishments are all
about what does carry mean kry means it
just happens by
itself imer if you want to interact with
me in a carry way in a way that when
random randomly exactly random it just
happens it just happens you know what if
that's how you want to interact with
me I also will treat you as if it's
random I will let
life attack you without my
protectiveness
without without the protection of Hashem
and guess what there's only 15 million
Jews there are 7 billion non-jews and if
Hashem takes away his protection guess
what we're
toast there's no way there's no
way so all the punishments are simply
not having a relationship with
Hashem understand that it's interesting
that in thees in the month of a it says
we have a bad masle and the r says what
do you mean I thought Jews don't even
have masle a masle how could we have a
bad masle in the month of a if we don't
have any masle whatsoever so the RV says
that's the masle the masle is that we
have masle that's the bad masle it's bad
masle for a Jew to be locked into masle
because we lose the protection of Hashem
so when we speak
about we're not speaking about black
coats we're not speaking about long
payers we're speaking about someone who
wants more than anything else to have a
connection
to that's what we're talking about now
let me ask you something the first bdash
was destroyed because of the
gim we did
the correct and how long was that
destroyed for 70 years how was it and it
was rebuilt the second B
mikash was destroyed more than 2,000
years ago and it still is not around and
what was that a result
of it comes
out that by creating hatred amongst Jews
what are you actually doing you're
taking away the so what is means you're
scared of not having you're scared of
not having that relationship and yet by
the very acts that you're doing you're
stopping the bamas from being rebuilt
and therefore we're further away from
from from mashiach than we ever were we
keep pushing mhia off these very the
very act that we're reading about these
acts these are not acts that bring mhia
close if you're trembling if you're so
afraid of not having a connection to
Hashem then don't do things that chase
Hashem away do things that bring Hashem
back now
there is such a thing as trying to
become as from as you can to take your
the way that you grew up and to add on
to it whatever it is to add on to it to
be a little more sistic to be a little
your doing should be a little bit better
you should stay away from L heart a
little bit
more but what happens if that from kite
then makes you go around and look at
other people and sort of destroy them
with your
gaze remember
ofai 12 years in the cave 12 years he
comes out and he looks and he sees a man
plowing the field he looks at that field
and bursts into
flames what you came out to destroy my
world get back in the cave he comes back
out a year later and he sees a person
holding these two myrtles these two
two he's holding
two and he and he says what are you
holding them for
z
Oh and he was able to be at peace now
it's an interesting thing you all know
the story right it's an interesting
thing why did he have to see the person
holding these two
Hadas why not he went back into a year
to cool off in the cave he came out now
he was
better that didn't happen he came out a
year later and then you had to see this
person holding these two
hadasim that he didn't know why they he
was holding them and then he was
okay
H it was a result of being there right
it was a result of was a result of the
planting the year before that I didn't
hear I I didn't hear
that good he had to the practi he had to
be in the same test but react
differently so there he saw this and but
on the other hand what he saw this time
was different than when he saw the first
time because obviously must have worked
on himself in that so presented him okay
so Hashem certainly presented him Hashem
presented him with a KRA that he had
never seen before with a Min with a h
Mitzvah whatever you call it that he
hadn't seen
before and this is one of the great
secrets when it comes to loving Hashem
and loving his people and this is going
to be our first secret of the night
there are going to be two Secrets
tonight and this is secret number
one when we look around at other yeden
and by the way for this talk I'm going
to be speaking about sh shabas heden but
they're all different types right people
who are not J shabas they have their own
battles we love them just as much and
we're rooting for them and we try to
reach out for them but when I'm speaking
about the like what was going on in Raad
ches where there was a from school of
girls it was a from school but it wasn't
the level of from kite or was something
was rubbing them the wrong way and it
created this
dissension here is secret number one
secret number one is every group within
clol has issues that they excel in and
also has issues that they need to work
on and no one is immune to this and the
joy of seeing how each and every yid
does what they do so beautifully so
marvelously with so much
devotion that is how one can come to
love another yid not to worry that each
yid is not doing exactly what I'm doing
and this is a tremendous amount of
maturity that's needed to hear what I'm
what I'm saying now you see we grow up a
certain way let's say we grow up I grew
up
and I walk through the old city and as
I'm walking through you know I love
going to I'm walking through the the the
Roa you've been to the Roa you remember
the Roa you take a beautiful walk on the
way to the kis you get to the center
there's the new sh that they built where
the KVA was then you keep going you got
Burger Bite and then you got Bagel Hole
and you keep going right you go a little
bit to the left you got a Torah then you
got this random lion remember that
random lion who knows what the who put
the L lion there but the Lion's sitting
there people put stickers on the lion
they take pictures by the lion what's
the lion doing oh but there's a very
nice SW store over there right which is
much bigger than it looks from the
outside right they come in it's looks
small wo it's very big right beautiful
place the Roa who just who doesn't love
to be in the Roa except that if you grow
up let's say yeshivish like me you look
around and uh one second there's these
modern modern Orthodox people I don't
know oh there are these breast oh
they're nuts oh kabad guys oh mashia
don't even get me started oh these
people are are totally oh he's them but
you know there and what you do is you
slice and you Dice and you Whittle away
at who is Jewish and who's acceptable
and it turns out in the entire Rover
there's like three people that are
acceptable in your eyes and everyone
else is misguided NE that's what ends up
happening to yish I'm telling you for
Yeshiva
shagi I'm telling you as the Yes Man
there is nothing more confusing than
coming onto an eged bus and seeing a a a
17-year-old boy with a
kuga and long P
learning like we don't know he's
learning so he's modern but he's from
okay but at least he's trying maybe one
day he'll put on the black hat you know
maybe not it's
confusing it's confusing and it takes a
tremendous level of maturity to
understand the following
idea how you grew
up within yish kite is right for you and
you must not abandon it and if you
abandon any of it you are being Pur
together if any of my sons were to take
off the black hat it would be Prett
together because they grew GRE up with
that their yish kite was part and parcel
now if they decide to so we'll deal with
it and then you know that's you know
every person has their but at least
that's their starting point this this
boy in on the Aged bus that wasn't his
starting point he is not any less from
for not wearing a black hat he grew up
on a
moshav he sings Friday night until
midnight beautiful nunam he comes to sh
in short sleeves because that's how his
family does that's how they do it in the
mhab he tries to watch his mouth from
lashara and he could be just or even
more beloved in hashem's eyes than me or
any Isa guy and it's not because his
good outweighs the fact that he doesn't
wear the black hat no that's not what
I'm saying I'm saying how he grew up is
right for him and that's his starting
point and within yish kite
there are many many many factions there
are many groups and each one has their M
how they grew up you know it's
interesting when I go to ER with a group
so often we'll go to a hotel for shabas
I will go to the hotel and there'll be a
Sho at that hotel and the Sho of that
hotel there'll be like a bar mitzvah
there and some Israeli family rented out
a little part of the hotel and they'll
be there with their extended family and
friends and you'll come come to to the
sh and they'll all be with Kipas they'll
all be with the blue short sleeve shirts
stening they'll all be on time to ding
of the Shiva guys rolling you know
whatever we end up rolling in they sing
and they dance and they're into it and
it's right for them are we mature enough
to understand that something can be
right for someone and not right for us
without
judging that's the ultimate in maturity
this is what the shat were all
about Rabbi Miller Vida Miller says that
when
the came into MIT they were separate and
they did not enter Mary while they were
in MIT they stayed separate throughout
their time in M because each one had
their own Tas and they understood they
had their own Tas and didn't look down
at Zen as a bunch of baltim no V is
there they're not just Baba they're
there because they have a very big T kid
and Zan didn't look up to you s
necessarily because they're the Learners
they said look you're doing your tkid
I'm doing my T kid and done as his T kid
and Ruben has his to kid and le' has his
tkid and each one of us
have now don't mistake me I am not
saying that everything within yish kite
is okay this is not a message for
pluralism if you hold on to Hal and you
have a rebi and you have a m that's all
I'm referring to and we know this by the
way we really know it in our hearts my
sister married
ay so guess what my sister eats
corn on PES and rice you know what would
happen if someone dumped rice in my food
on
PES but she's less from than me she she
eats rice and I don't no of course not
what was right for them is right for
them and I'm mature enough to know that
what's right for them is what they
should be doing and that would be wrong
for
me it's something we must think about
because we're so
into us and them we walk into a bar Park
and we see the and the even see each
other I mean I'll tell you a dialogue
that I saw which would blow you away
there was a
and a mavik and they were speaking to
each other you know these
Israeli
K and this uh you know the the made some
sort of a comment like you know us were
the former and says I don't think you're
for her at all I don't know what you're
talking about he says what do you mean I
mean look he says what because you're
extra I said the guy said I'll Grant you
I'll I'll grant you that you are better
at s than us I'll grant that to you
that's our new Sayan and sometimes our
wives or our daughters wear sleeves that
are shorter above the elbow I'll Grant
it to you but guess which group doesn't
miss manil it's us guess which group
holds of the RAM and makes yesu
Mitzvah right the ra every step in we
value this Mitzvah to us this is our you
guys you know yeah whatever yeah come
for Yesa leave so are you the M or are
we
the're there's a lot to be said about
that that's
not there's another group each group has
its
n and each group has its Mila the
question is are we mature enough to be
able to create
this because if we can't if we can't
look at at at at another yid and view
the beauty in that yid you know there's
a I mean is saying they say why is it
that we say shal thank you for not
making me a why don't we say
sh he say because we would get into
every fight in the book well I'm the yid
but you're not the yid look at me I'm
not you're so the one thing we could
agree on is that uh that we're not a guy
but who's a I don't know we we we we
duke it out it's the craziest thing
you want to know the issue the issue is
that we're not
mature we can't look at another yid and
see value in what that yid does we just
have a tough time so that is Step number
one that is rule number one guide number
one what is right for you how you grew
up is how you should be following it
is hopefully you have a good Mur you you
learn from your parents you have rabam
it's right for you and if you deviate
there are questions that must be
answered but that doesn't mean it's
right for everyone else and what they
how they grew up is Right them that's
number one now I'm going to say
something that's maybe even more
powerful than
that there's a secular author named
Steven
kovi and he says the following within
relationships relationships work like a
bank account
how bank accounts work you have a bank
account you make a deposit so I'm going
to make a deposit and I'll make a
deposit of
$200 the next week I come to the bank
and I write a check for $5,000 I want to
cash it is the bank cashing my
check no what will the teller tell me
you cannot cash a check of 5,000 if you
only deposited 200 so Stephen kovi says
relationships work like a bank
if you want to make withdrawals in the
relationship you have to make deposits
and if you didn't make deposits you
cannot possibly make withdrawals there's
nothing there to
withdraw how much more so does this
apply to relationships within
religion you want to make a withdrawal
you want to tell this at this lady this
lady Soldier please we uncomfortable can
you please go to the back of the bus we
we're more comfortable with a separate
seating then make deposits in the
relationship the big problem is not what
we're comfortable with we have the right
to say I'm uncomfortable with a certain
thing I have a certain certain laws
right I certain things I'm even allowed
to impose on you if I do so like a
mench but I'm not going to be listen to
unless I made deposits and by the way
when it comes to religion it's not a one
for one deposit it's at least 5 to one
it's called the five to one you make
five deposits you invite the secular je
over for shabas you're there when the
secular Jew needs you needs your
assistance you're there for them and
they know that you've got their back
then when the time comes and this k
Community wants to make a withdrawal
then maybe they'll have a listening ear
the big problem is that the k Community
doesn't make deposits but it makes
withdrawals so what do you think the
reaction is going to be
how do you think they're going to react
of course they're going to be upset and
don't tell me that a person cannot make
deposits I had this of spending the day
with a man named RAB y DAV grman from
mdal or
mdal I brought a group of students about
42 students from all over the world in a
group called The Jewish student leaders
and we went to to visit we were trying
to cultivate leadership on campus and we
brought them all over the place we gave
leadership seminars but nothing did it
like RAV grman when they left they were
crying you know what RAV grman is let me
I'll give you the very brief biography
he is a man straight out of Mayar he's a
sixth generation Yushi with beautiful
hress upon him a beautiful face a long
long Snow White beard and beautiful
immaculately curled
pis and after The Six Day War he told
himself Hashem must love the Jewish
people and
therefore I want to do something for
Hashem so he went to this town called
migdal
amch one of the most crime ridden towns
in all of AR Israel a City full of
dropouts a City full of drugs abuse and
he goes into the Disco Hall and when he
walks in people looked at him and they
said oh you probably on the way and you
were traveling and you have yard site or
you need to say Cottage so you're
looking for a minion is that what you're
doing here he says no I moved into your
community they said
why cuz I want to be here with
you and if you look there's a beautiful
video about a half an hour video about
mcdc
and a few days later these these bums
these dropouts are dancing to this disco
music in the Disco allall with RAV grman
on their
shoulders dancing he's up there they
don't know what to do this Rabbi who's
so full of love and
acceptance and then a little while later
he rents out a small little
classroom and he finds eight 18 kids
from broken
homes and he invites them and they come
and they begin to study with
him and he builds this amazing amazing
Community from from preschool from
Nursery through elementary school and
high school he teaches them them Torah
he helps them get a job he even made a
deal with the Army to delay for 2 years
to allow them to get two more years of
Torah under their belt and then yes they
go to the
Army and when they go to the Army now
they're they're much more
resolved to keep Torah because they've
had those two more years where they were
mature where they learned today migdal
AMC has 6,000 people currently enrolled
in from the nurseries up through uh
training
school
6,000 and a walks through mdal amch not
like a king but like a
father and he tries to learn their names
and if you look at the kids mic none of
them look Kish he didn't try to mold
them after his
image he just want he just wanted to
give them the Gift of Health the gift of
Torah he wanted to give them all of
these gifts combined in the most
beautiful way
and in the interview there was a guy
said look he doesn't care whether I'm
religious or not I just want he's just
looking out for us now between you and I
does he care of course he
cares but if he can if he can reach out
in a way that this grown man says he
doesn't care that means he is showing
unconditional love he is making five
deposits and when the time comes to make
a withdrawal he's able to he goes to the
prisons he makes deposits
why is it so hard to understand why is
it that Us in America we get it go to
may go to these communities and tell
them you want to influence you want to
teach make deposits in the relationship
make
deposits the B
zerba the b zerba in uh ER isal is very
against should I wait
I'm going to wait because I I it's not
is the battery
gone does the world need to hear
this can bring it next I've been begging
them to get me the power
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okay we we we you know maybe maybe it's
a Simmon do did it just go I think so
because I just noticed now that it
was good good we'll finish the truth is
I have I had a story we're g we're
actually going to finish because it's 10
I I I think like this
I think like this with these two rules
that we just we just stated over here
very obvious a that there are places
there's a mukum for each and every
person out there in
their if they are sh they're keeping to
be able to look at the at the
Kik at the at the breast liver at the
labure and it doesn't mean we have to
agree with everything but to understand
in a certain way if we are there to rip
everyone who is not exactly like us that
was never the ruton of Hashem so to keep
that mature Concept in focus and number
two critical critical as well to
understand we must make
deposits and if in is Tri I was telling
you the Bell RAB said that throwing
rocks never made a person
from isn't that
obvious isn't it obvious you throw a
rock that's going to that's going to
bring someone back to Torah so what's
the the answer is it's not R it's not
D now just to be a small little M yoser
just to be a small little
MOS there is a concept called Kos canos
means to be zealous right I can't take
the I just got to do
something canos has its place within
yish but I have two things to say about
that a you better be very careful if
you're aoi you better be
consistent because if you're not
consistent if you are a can about things
that you yourself are having issues with
maybe even to validate yourself because
that exists as well is not having from
it that's not and number
two even Kos that we have in in in the
Torah
P the canos was there not simply because
he had to do something anything so this
is what he did he did it because he
understood that if if I would feel like
someone was going to stand up for his
covet so that my Gaya would
end canos for the same sake of
Kos that's not you know we're not on
that madrea it doesn't bother us so much
I'm telling you you make every BR with
kavana will worry about you being being
a kanoi properly but if you're not that
kind of person throwing
rocks and I know I'm I'm preaching to
the to the converted I'm singing to the
choir I say right you all understand
this we just have to spread it because
that kind ofos it's not and it's not
helping anyone if anything it has caused
among the greatest kems that we have
seen at least in my lifetime in in in
the past few months in the paper in the
media so much so that six of you raised
your hand when I said six of you and
there should be nothing embarrass
embarrassing about trembling about being
nervous about connecting
toes but because we know intuitively and
intellectually that what they are doing
is not
giving any
questions bum bum bum yeah um this is
not directly related but um how do you
deal with um not religious um inter
what's religious barriers like um
personal like affronts and like
intellectual like you don't someone's
like not on your page
like like mean what they're more they
think they're more religious I think
they're no I'm saying nothing to do with
religion um I'm saying number one like a
personal person if you don't feel like
someone likes you how do you like how do
you love them anyway and number two um
if you look down on someone because
they're
not I mean someone's looking down on you
or you're looking down on someone else I
I think I think that we have to work on
ourselves I think we have to be humble
and to know that we are so full of
faults that we would never want the
world to know about right wouldn't we be
embarrassed if the world knew the real
us okay I would be so so so what do we
want what do we want want
Perfection that person's not perfect cuz
at least I can look in the mirror every
day now if I'd be living in a perfect
world and and and I would be the way the
way I am I I I would I would I would die
from
shame so each of us has miles and
yeah you know just figure out in your
head you know
whatting feelings but but you know just
say com
opinion I mean thing is this har thing
making they're making their opinions n
but it's a negative one they're shoving
it down the front and we're just backing
away neity I
know not like the ones we see in the
media they just keep to
themselves good good I I think you make
a very important point when we speak
about those who are um who are creating
a big taram I I don't mean to impune
anyone actually other words any one
group I didn't say satmer or bub or
visit or or Tois Ain I didn't impune I'm
speaking about
a h how does one approach that very
difficult issue of people
who we feel are not on our wavelength
yeah okay I have two questions number
one why AR more big bigan coming out and
talking against this that really really
I don't understand it and number two
when somebody irreligious confronts you
with it to say Well they're not really
religious or they're crazy those are not
adequate answers you have a
better yeah I I I don't have an answer
why why the G haveen haven't spoken
about it um except to say that um that
uh you know may maybe that's just it it
should be obvious and uh I don't know
like I I don't think I told anyone a
single Kish here tonight there's nothing
that I said he
didn't I I I I I mean I I think that
there were proclamations made I I don't
few now very
recently I I don't know I I uh I don't
follow that what was your second
question question is some religious um
you know like challenges you about this
just to say Well they're not really for
or they're crazy those are very
inadequate answers you have
B say look I I I can't be the judge and
jury about every Jew all I can tell you
is I have a lot of love for you and that
has to be answer and and and you could
and if you feel strong enough you can
say and I don't agree with their
actions but you don't have to harpen it
in other words you you know yeah in
every society
you always
have understand I'm not saying it's okay
but but it's got much worse it's not I
as well you walk down the streets and
you read the the media and then you
walked out last week the regular
everyone's going to school it's a
regular normal day there's nothing of
this heye what you're seeing on the news
it's not it's not what's happening on
the streets I didn't say it's sor people
that are doing it are doing things that
weren't done you didn't he 20 years ago
somebody steing bleach somebody yeah I
mean what both of you are saying is true
obviously obviously the media the media
has has blown this way out of proportion
but the gum did speak out and they said
that there's some sort of a kitu going
on they said had to do with lashara
maybe we're speak L by ourselves so it
has been spoken about and and if it's
not worse than it than it than it always
was then it was always in a certain way
look we know it's bad you know how we
know it's bad cuz b m is not built yet
so it's bad enough every door that the
Bas of MDES is not built in means that
door was worthy to have it destroyed in
so we are still living in the door that
that just tears each other apart the
only difference is that today we have
the technology to do a much more
effective job and the world will know
about it much quicker and we have to we
have to wake up and and smell the coffee
it's uh you know we have the ability to
make a great kid
hasem and uh you know we're not at least
not all of us
yeah any else yeah I'm just thinking
that maybe like if in America we work on
could have an effect on the world like
it's like there what could we do for
them be
like think America think
so thing for sure I say what didn't
happen in America like these crazy
things within each other I I would say I
would say go to shabbat.com
find somebody who's not
religious or religious but not your kind
and click the invite button that's what
I would say as a matter of fact the uh
Daily News interviewed me last week uh
about about shabbat.com yes we were in
The Daily News and um the person said
okay what's um what's the idea I I said
I'll tell you the idea is because you're
reading all this negativity Jew versus
Jew in the media I think we have to
promote how much love and acceptance and
open opening of the house we do really
actually have within the Jewish
Community we're we we're you
know say no one like us so the antidote
to
is
yeah
know I know there lot of different
groups and like no group is perfect you
were saying like like yish Orthodox like
every group has its problems and it's
good side but um specifically well since
you said you were yish um I was
wondering about like one specific aspect
of the system um which is
actually in the education system that
they that they explain why like certain
certain groups within yishai um are not
incorrect
their so I'm not sure what you're asking
you want to know um like for example
like certain teachers they're certain
teachers in certain classes let's say um
in a lot of BAC schools and in a lot of
their issu schools that like explain
like that like down specifically put
down other groups and explain how like
the is like the only correct way and
like any diverent are not
right I I I I never heard such a class
it would be it would be interesting to
me but I'll tell you something I it
wouldn't surprise me if such a class
were given and and not only that but
even the material wouldn't surprise me
because I think that many groups can
make such a case I think that you br
into the room and optimally the would
say look we we we kept yish going we
kept the simulation so on so lowest rate
of intermarriage and then you'll get
another group where we serve uh the
Medina and we we we serve in the Army
and we protect and we also learn Torah
and we're able to do it all
and right it sounds strange to me that
there was such a do the right thing like
a little bit if they do mistak to give
them Pride what they're doing but
sometimes it happens at the extense of
yeah you have to be very careful it's a
big ex heart to put down I think I mean
I don't really know what goes on like
I'm not a or anything but like I think
there are a lot of like hidden agendas
involved like and there's a lot of like
politics involved it's not just like
issues of fright and I don't know I've
heard like a lot of classes like and it
and like specifically like I should give
a specific example of like of like
religious SCI I'm not going to get into
the whole thing
but um so I went through theal system
and I heard a lot of classes that
explain why this and this and this is
wrong and it's like wrong anybody who
believes it is is wrong and and um it
bothers me so I wonder why that was left
so I I would tell you I disagree with
you I don't think there's a political
agenda I think that that that sounds
very Sinister I believe it is a
religious thing I believe that within
within Judaism try our best to do the r
hasem that is how we're brought up this
is good this is bad this is Asa this is
yob and and and that's how we grow up
that doesn't have to be an agenda to be
wrong it could simply be that we're
trying our best to do the it doesn't
there's no political agenda I I don't I
I don't believe it I never will believe
it and if it is a political agenda then
they've messed up terribly because they
haven't accomplished anything with their
agenda plus one plus I I've been in the
Rabin it and I've taught in let's see I
taught in K Berlin i t in tadas I taught
in Brewery I taught in Prospect Park and
if there was an agenda they they forgot
to give me the memo you know you know so
I I want to know what the that agenda is
I just think it's serious one I'm just
I'm just I'm just saying what I what I
experience it's it's it's
uh simply put you've become more
open-minded and and and open-minded
could be bad or could be good but you've
evolved it's it's not a hard thing do we
evolved as people and the Bako system is
the best system for from people for from
girls anywhere it it is I agree with you
100% it just it just that specific thing
like it it just always bothered me I
mean it has for a while and I was
wondering like why why they cuz they're
trying to give you Ms the way they
understand it it's just but it's not Ms
no you can't say that either cuz then
then you're in the same then you're in
the same boat as them you could say that
there's a variation and for them their m
so it is that religious iism is Floy
varation but
like I don't think you could like be
taught that one that one group
of you're G look you you you have to be
taught like like you said earlier um
what's your name I don't remember your
name but she she said earlier that um
that um they're trying to give you pride
in in what you're what are you doing and
I I don't have a problem look I teach my
kids what I believe to be the EMS I
don't have any political agenda I teach
them what I believe to be the EMS that's
it now I somehow I'm trying to teach
them also to be tolerant I have my son
over there I could ask him whether I did
a good job or
not uh by the way does is anyone going
back to
farak yeah you are uh can we get a ride
for him sure okay great that was easy um
but you have to but could you mind
following us because he hasn't eaten we
stop by Carlos and Gabby on the way good
now he's
happy uh for me not for him yeah for
both of us to be
honest
yeah yeah but I'm not even convinced
that what look there are people who go
uh you have to be more open accept
people like take things with right right
well I had to have been there if I were
to judge and that I don't like to judge
anyways but if I were to judge seriously
I would have to be there in the class to
to un to see to see whether they went
overboard or whether they're just trying
to give the EM the way they see it and I
think that is your n your n is can you
be tolerant of someone that you viewed
as intolerant and if you can't then
you're also intolerant because there is
such a m as well you understand that's
each of us had as an
yeah it could be that like was trying to
explain that like the way that you grew
up is the right way for you and that way
a little more more attractive and it
seems also right say the way that you up
is the way you're supposed to
go not's being
against that's right good anyone else
excellent thank
you