Sefiras HaOmer: The Psak of the Beis Halevi & the Electrifying Lomdus Why It is Not Followed

this Tower class is brought to you by torahanytime.com relevant to understanding we know the terrorist says you begin counting on the day after pesach seven weeks Tiana foreign so first it says first it says seven weeks and then it says you should count 50 days so the Torah first talks about counting weeks and then it talks about counting days so gemara brings various opinions the opinion of abayas Mitzvah is there's a midst of the count weeks and there's a midst of the count days the opinion of Rabino yerohum is that these are two separates asks that why don't we make two different while we make a bracha a circle and count the weeks and then Le misparayomi encounter days just like we do on phones that's a good question if you hold their two different Mitzvahs so why don't we make two different brokers because nowadays they aren't two different mitzvahs why because the misfit account weeks listen carefully is linked to the carbonheimer and therefore we don't bring the carbonyl anymore and since we don't bring the carbon anymore therefore the midst of the count weeks is only with machine in the midst of the count days is an independent Mitzvah justice so the midst of the count weeks Once Upon a Time was the Eraser nowadays is but the midst of the count days is midai Raisa therefore we only make a broken and we throw in the drabanan why don't we make a separate bracha on the durabanan because it's the we don't make a broken he made he is what's uh of course not you don't make a break sometimes but back in the days yeah foreign but from Spain but anyway um minook's farad as they say like this today is 10 right foreign despite them say that you know that David that's fine in the middle we put in we say is and he says there's a very simple reason for the Minogue of swarad namely in deference to the opinion of so according to what we do we have a problem the problem is if you need to say we're being map sick between the yamim which is midai raisan the word with what we're not so that's not really icar that's only so you're being map sick between the icker Mania of yamim and the word by counting the shavuas that's not proper they're from deference they say finished you're done with that's where the Minogue svarad comes from not to be mop sick between the icker counting and the word that's the shita of um this faradam so what do we ashkenazim do so he brings on the bottom and the on the banana their footnotes by the son-in-law of rapsupesa Frank anybody know who the son-in-law wrote Frank was his name was a great going he sat on a bezen with raval yahshev and he was the one who sort of redacted McCray Kardashian he wrote footnotes on the bottom when I was learning narut Israel yeah 24 years ago I had this year from him his he is the father of the karma Shiva of khabarine is the grandson of tsupesa Frank anyway he brings over here um now the question he asks but now if you say in the middle like svar them do then you're missing the word see what ashkenazim have an advantage because going on both days and weeks right but according to the swardim the word is only going on days it's not going on weeks he says the rajwa says the word in between could go on what is said before and what is set after so it's going on both furthermore the Roger says the whole image at all it's only rightly to say the word and therefore for ashkenaz and where is not so critical we're not worried about the half SEC okay this is a sheet of Frank um you get wrote weeks is connected to the carbon oymer therefore days is not connected to the carbonheimer therefore it's medarisa okay so the question is first question rather say why would weeks be connected to the carbon oymer and days not so you say well that's how that's what the Torah says why would the Torah link the weeks to the carbon oymer and days not linked to the carbonoma so there's an amazing you ready for this foreign I'm sorry my copy machine wasn't working this um today he quotes the robin he says minions because it says but the yamim Isaiah um so the question is the yamim stands on its own the shavu ice is linked to the aimer as why why would weaks be linked to carbonize and these not be linked to carbonis so says it's a decree of the king um who could enter the secrets of God says I'm going to reveal the secret to you because the gemara reveals the secret in the first pack of Rosh Hashanah you ready for this does anybody know if somebody on every yamt if you have to bring a carbon if you don't bring it on the first day of young Tiffy coming on the second the third what about shavuas how long do you have to make up the carbon for Shabbos let's say you don't bring the karma khaki onto US how long do you have seven days very good Shiva you have a week maybe only have one day rava said we only count days don't we count weeks a holiday of weeks which means like this that means the yamtif of us has two Dimensions to it it has a dimension of yam diff and it has a dimension of carbonuses seven days so where do we know you have a whole week to make Tash Lumen it says you count days to sanctify shavuus as a yamtif you count weeks to sanctify shavuas as an entire week to bring carbonis mamela since bismar has a yamtif is so the counting of days is ladai rice and it's not linked to carbonis but the fact that is a yamctif of weeks for carbonos that's linked to the carbonheimer in other words from the carbon Omer we count weeks in order to sanctify shavuas as a yamtif of weeks we count days to sanctify Lewis as a day so in other words the counting of the days is is in order to sanctify yomptif is not connected to the carbonis so therefore the sanctification of yamtif is La DOI rice the counting of yamim is ladai rice the counting of weeks is to be macro of carbonis therefore it's linked to the carbon oymer so therefore it's not ladai rice that's the logic that counting days would be the irisa not linked to carbonize and Counting weeks would be linked to Carbones okay next step you ready for this this is the icker may you ready for this I'm going to tell you the sack of the base I'll leave you the salavian simulama test has an amazing sock what's the luck of somebody forget forgot to count Friday night we'll tell us if somebody forgot forgot to count Friday night I don't hear what you have to stop counting why it says the mitza is all is what it's one Mitzvah if you blow one then you lose it is it it's one Mitzvah there's such a shita who holds that it's all about mitzvah the bahad the bahagas of the opinion that if you miss one day you blow the whole thing now we don't necessarily pass in like that actually we don't pass it like that but we're close for it that's why if you're misophic whether you counted a day we say maybe maybe what it's 49 we say so maybe you counted and even if you didn't count maybe it's 49 separate Mitzvahs yeah so we say that's the shita of um so if you miss a day you no longer count because of suffix thank you sorry what's the halacha says if somebody missed day nine he wants to say that on day 14 you could count with abraha and day 21 you could count with the bracha and day 28 you could count with abraha and day 35 you could count with the bracha she they're two separate Mitzvahs there's a midst of the count the days and amidst account the weeks so just because I blew the days I didn't necessarily blow the weeks so since I didn't meaning I didn't have tamim in the days but I did have tamim in the weeks so therefore says that if you miss a day you could every time the week is complete that day you could count with Abraham he says actually I found in Robin who asked why don't we make two separate broccolis and he says it's because the days are the erisa the weeks and there's no separate so therefore he says I understand why my Sac is not correct that you would not be allowed to make a Brach on day 7 14 21 and 28 why because there's no bracha niskan on the drabanon of the weeks however says Levy but most place can hold sphere Bismillah most players can hold Spirit the whole both the days and the weeks are drabanan and yet we still make a bracha so we see you can make a broken on so then why can't you make the bracha on on the weeks and what about according to the rambam and the Riff that's fear bismarisa so then the weeks are BisMan so you can make abraha on the weeks so you say well wait a second but maybe it's all one Mitzvah Robin holds its two mitzvahs but if you're gonna say it's one Mitzvah like all the money hamits counts fear as one Mitzvah not like two mitzvahs but everybody knows what's the if on today what person said without the weeks or if somebody counted the weeks foreign why can't if I miss one why can't I still do the other therefore the base of Levy paskins hello that if you missed a day on day 7 14 21 28 you could still count with abraha that's the sack of the best salivi just on the weeks according to those who say spiritus you should be able to and according to those who say Spira is die right so you should be able to so here's what I was uh struggling with last night I don't think we passed in like the Bayside leaving whoever did such a thing there are many people who forget there are many people who forget not initial but then other not even in the city but in other cities there are people who forget did you ever hear that they count a 7 14 21 I missed the days but I could still count with a bracha for the weeks but the argument to the base salavia is since if I count just days without weeks or just weeks without days one without the other so why if I blow one can I not still count the other does it make a difference the bracha is [Music] it's not even specific days or weeks this is somebody misses one week let's see misses day seven or day 14. can you still count the brothel with you the other days or since it's one if somebody if somebody missed the weeks let's say on day seven he missed day seven what he said he didn't say he forgot completely let's see he said but then he missed you miss one day you can't count them with a brother anymore right you missed one of the weeks because then you missed it well then you missed both right but could you do 14 on day fourteen no no it's the same thing no there there it's worse because there not only did you miss weeks you missed days also so but his point is okay I understand you lost to me mice of days but I didn't lose to me myself weeks that's uh that's a a very big shylah the weeks let's say again on day seven he could so according to the base salary yeah he could count seven for sure for sure he could he for shortcut that's a good uh that's a good example that's a very good example of uh where this could apply yeah that's a good that's a good point so so that's the question I don't think we possibly like the base I leave I'm pretty sure we don't the mission Brewer doesn't bring down that if you miss days you could still count the weeks with the bracha so I was thinking I think this is very important if you miss a day the best saliva wants you to be able to count weeks with Abraham but let's think for a moment it's one mitzvah and therefore the bracha was massaging on what Counting but the basalevi seems to say well as long as I count either days or weeks I'm still you'd say so then if I miss one I should be able to make a bracha on the other so I want to share with you something uh I saw last night an interesting possibility the rambam writes list says it's a Mitzvah can seven weeks huh what about the days the random doesn't even say there's the midst of the count days why did he only say there's a midst of the count the weeks by the way is voice doesn't say there's also limits to the count of days or there's one Mitzvah to count days and weeks he says again the misses that count the weeks and it submissive account the days with the weeks what so if it's two Services why don't the rambam say there's a missile account the weeks and there's a midst of the count of days what is this so but why is the midst of the days counting the days with the weeks why isn't it a separate one instead of count the weeks it's a counter days why is the midst of the day specifically like secondary to the weeks do you think the two mid slice by the way the rambam in umizo is cancerous it doesn't count that as two minutes twice but you want to say two minutes right one is again the week one is the count the days with the weeks why does the ramen first only talk about the weeks and then when it talks about the days days with the weeks makes sense why the first time does the only say the weeks and then so the safer mode says the rambam holds the icar myths as the weeks and counting the days is not a Mitsubishi it's not a helic of the Mitzvah it's just a din you know like a brisker approach It's A din that in the midst of counting the weeks you should count the days with it and if you don't count the days there's a lacking in the counting of the weeks can I say it different I want to say it differently I think there there's maybe a more a reasonable way to say it there's a midst of the count the weeks okay now When you're counting weeks there's units of seven and weeks are also made up weeks are made up of days a day is the seventh of a week two days is two sevenths of a week three days is three sevenths of a week the Mitzvah of swira is count the weeks that's it there's only one Mitzvah count the weeks but you can't just say uh today is the 13th day that's one week no it's one week in six days no why are you counting days I'm not I'm counting weeks but I have to say what percentage of another week we're dealing with is that a din not like he's saying it's not a din the Mitzvahs to count the weeks so today is the 10th day no no I only only count weeks I am the 10 days seven days and three seven so and three segments of a week I missed a day could I count let's say I missed today Can I mount count day 14 say well I only blew the days I didn't blow the weeks no I believe I blew the weeks if you missed a day you're lacking in the counting of the weeks you know what I'm saying you want to say it over um what sometimes now well what's going to could in other words is there a Miss for the count days there's only limited account week so why am I adding the days so it's not two weeks so you're saying the amount of the weeks you think that a week right the counting of the days is is a measurer of the week yeah you make it make sense you want to say it yes what this lady seems like it wouldn't reply now because you can't kind of seven because if days are weeks and you miss the weeks according to this right the baseball ladies sock would not be correct right now I'm trying to explain why we don't why we don't hold like the base of Levy trying to say see I I I'm borrowing it from him he says the icar misses the weeks and the midst of count the days he says but it's a din you should count the days with it I'm not sure I understand what that means I I think what we're saying is very logical that days is is we could there's not only one way to count weeks one week two week three week is there only way to only one way to count feet count feet how many feet are the Shoal this this room is I don't know I'm guessing um 40 feet and seven inches no just count feet I am I need to tell you since we know that the 12 inches in a foot therefore that's also a way to count the weeks no every day I have to count the weeks part of counting the weeks is counting what how many increments toward a week we're up to is the word itself is telling you that it's it's a unit that's comprised of seven so by definition by using the term we it implies the day the days you don't have the word uh I'm sorry I'm not in English okay even Shabbos is saying that romantus is saying that by very definition the count the word week is a unit of seven segments so therefore but definition of the Torah is saying count weeks and the measuring unit is units of seven segments so even before I get to 7 14 21 part of that definite that maybe you would have said just do 7 14 21 but the Tisbury it's not adding a new Mitzvah it's saying in the counting of the weeks you need to say how many increments that you uh you counted so that that's the eager by saying [Music] in whether both are the irisa or both are the rabbanan yeah right I mean we're not we're not we're not counting anything indifference holds there are two separate mitzvahs yeah this is very good very solid very solid I had something very hazy last night but I think I think we uh well why would the Iker mitzvah I mean that's the third says right um what's what's solution the the the lashing of the Torah is of weeks everyone have a wonderful day you've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com