Reviewing the last few pages of Bava Basra at the Daf Yomi review in Scheiner's Shul

okay good morning everybody we are going to start from the top of Kim we are going to finish the today today the she is being learned mother so we're going to pick up from the top of we learned last week regarding in a scenario we have twoim weim dropped Hisar and a different shim picked it up so have a asking according to everybody the says just like the two cannot pull out AAR against each other who this can't go over to a person name and demand for him money what are we worried about again we just said we're not that this that's holding against you belongs to the other person cuz there's no on that answers you're right we're not talking about neilo rather we have a tin that the person can say you know who star this is this is not yours rather it's the other Yim handed this over either sold it to him or gave it to him so what's either because I'm the real or because the other handed it over to me therefore I have a to say that this does not belong to you rather other and we're going to discuss momentarily why we don't say a scenario of why we for such a case we're going to see the a little better everyone holds so what would be the problem even if it's not your star gave it you the question is if you have to prove it that I'm holding on to the why is it different than any other and the is according to this is that what's different than when I'm holding on to a pen we say here the is that since it's AAR what are you really holding on to you holding on to a piece of of paper that just guaranteed money that's in a different place therefore this T of holds it's not considered a the money and you don't have a regular we say this do we know this what happened is the father was n one of the brothers pulls up it's holding on to AAR and thear is saying saying that what Ruben owes that money the family he's tiny the father gave it and the brothers are tiny no you stole it you took it away from us however belongs to everybody so what is the brother has to bring a that the father gave him my this is what we're trying to show that even me when you're one of the I have a say you have to bring me a that what that you are the let's be real we're talking about over here where person is yish so there's a lot of money one of the brothers could quickly grab a piece of paper it's very easy to snatch that's going the opposite direction since you already know that one of the brothers is easily going to take a star that belongs to the family and try to walk away with money it's like free money let me try to a piece you need to bring okay so this we explain the of this whether it's however we have another third then what's over here it says just like these pull out a our mission earlier clearly stated that none of the can walk over each other with thear so what is how do we understand this and that answer is very simple what would be the problem of two can't pull out AAR from each other like we explained earlier many times that a person has a right to go let's he wants to go to Lake with the bar money he could go over in front of two say I want to go to lakeood Bar money please write AAR who's the one taking the risk me as AA so what's the problem so this is the qu this is the question can you do that without the Mal in front of you therefore what you have a problem sometimes you're G pull up you tell them I'm leaving to a different place and I want to borrow money over there I want to borrow money from him they don't realize they go right give me the $100 after me know that I lent you that's why it's a problem to charge from another however this time so again the person is going to say the only time it's possible that there was a you are the is because the and the made sure you were together they made sure to give it to who to the Mal not to the what happens in a scenario where you have AAR that says is is both we say it's because we don't know who's who make it's only because you found such a case such a star right that it says that means you're able to take we learn we learned clearly a person cannot pull out so how what does it have to do with you know what we're talking about IED two the first the other so I lent it to two separate people clearly says the Next Generation so the receip also understanding should be clearly look at what you wrote you know what happened the case is you're right and two different people and it's clearly on the however the receip says therefore both the earlier Cas is what when can say we paid but R him which is much easier to understand since we're talking about the that the has that he paid up he could always what he could go show it to both benim however in such a case if they do write on each other it's going to make it that you ow you're green that you owe both of us money the is I'm able to pull out a receipt and said I pay but you only have one receipt you should be able to ride to each other even on the other cases and whenever you have a sh which it is so what did we say the with we said you should go up Generation generation and generation until eventually you're going to hit that it's going to have different names it's not statistically possible that you'll go all the way to with the same name we go up and up and up and the last says clearly because we mention we're going to mention the says okay we have at the on the bottom of person tells a stun there's a what he talking about learns it's talking about someone he's dying the other want to learn he's not dying whether I know that one of my stars were paid up I just don't know which one you have no choice person's dying he doesn't want to get punished in sh so all the IUS all the that says other people owe money it's per however what happens that it says now ruen had multiple we go we say the biggest that you owed him you a million dollar you a half a million you a quarter the million dollar one will have to clean up because we have no choice because of a s however the why should we say every single star is either the half a million we we're going to say the million or it's the million person says I have AAR in your hands it's however same thing a person sells you have so why should over here when a person says he has everything is answers all therefore he has no choice but to get the small I think it's the second to last now we going to learn there's a coblin there's an AR cins stronger Lo stronger insurance he says give it to him T we're going to and then there's a typical guarant now says clearly because he's ready going like the're going to see means you could go maybe you're not able to go to's going to question this okay's going to explain this a little better if he says that want to go to whoever I feel either you the AR or the Le able to go to dep then no problem you don't go to throws in one word which is very crucial you don't go to the first now very simple case we're going to say this outside like that we have a clear what's going on in the mishna is says I'm willing to marry you once now you find me an it's going to back your find shim as an there were friends at the time many years later andu have no money to live on we're going to see so they decided to make a let's get divorc it's even a midst of the Remar but we'll get divorce we don't have money we'll go to the AR you'll go to your old friend I guess he's not your best friend anymore but you're going to go to him M him the money let's say it's $100,000 today $200,000 and then get remarried with the money why not so what what do we do to avoid that the guy says no problem I'll be your however you have to make a that you'll never have enough from your wife when you divorce her therefore you're not able to remarry her like that you prevent this what do you have to do to make is like you know they want to trick each other trick this old person very simple what is we're on the standing we're going back where the is they not going to go to the AR first rather the saying I backed up that if what the scenario that if the AR disappears or dies I'll take him in place however if the AR just doesn't have money go to the and that I never backed up FR my time the person can say I just back you up the person I never backed you up his money and here he is I'm not he didn't run away this is a of the Persians doesn't make sense what do you mean the Persians they go where do they run to they first go to the which means to say this has zero logic to it that you're going to back off what are you backing up you're guaranteeing that what that the person is going to be here very nice you follow chapter 11 what's going to help me I'm not worried he's going to disappear I I need to get pay back that's what means so therefore it doesn't make sense you have a right that the AR says first go to the you can't get anything out of him then come to me that's T what we do I think today's day and age I think the AR is just a backup for my understanding don't go for however you could go to where do we know we have this in the it's a long it says as follows where this in the through through gim okay they're bringing that over here I will guarantee you you can have it from my hand oh no sorry this is not the this is the a in the par what are we talking about we're talking about and regarding going to so what happened was y we all know was very nervous very concerned for bam to go so what did Yuda say Yuda says don't worry I'm GNA guarantee what is Gonna Come Back we all know that's more of a coblin how do we know CU it says ruin started the conversation Ruben said now later I'm going to return it to you do do question why we bringing a why bringing from ru to yehud yehud never mentioned anything Ru was to mention so asked this and he says that it doesn't make sense that yud will give less of a guarantee than what ruen gave so if ruen gave to guarantee and it's poit to say the gave it as in the this is the we're talking about it's quite extensive says as follows you take because you you're a stranger and regarding this of a stranger we have another I think it's a continuation it says b so not it's actually earlier the it says my son if you a to your friends or will you shear with your mouth you're CAU with the way you're talking do this do this my son now should be saved and you should go in the palms of your friend over here here means to rule your friend so the weing the end of the as follows what you guaranteed M then go pay it back so here's the that guarantees the however if not what you should do is ask him if we're talking about a scenario where what says bring all your friends and go ask but again the rise in the is you see clearly from the end of the we learned we all know what is we discussed it last week is not we know that they tell you you're feeling good that you're guaranteeing the loan they're trusting you you yourself completely whoever you want you're able to go to him is able to collect from the this how we have to read [Applause] it however he says this is what we [Applause] read now we're going to discuss ainin we're going to see a little more exactly the the shinness of a cin the M of a cin is that he comes first you're able to go directly to the cin we are on top of even a this is that you cannot be which is regarding if you go to the cin or not we just learned even when there you could go to the cin what's the we all know to discusses a person said I want to give you a the person says I'll give you the G give me my coat back and she lost her coat is it a good get or not you could pay as long as she's willing to pay the value of the code it's a good get learn this very shortly about is the person says want to bring after 30 days what is the says you could bring it after 30 days and that is not like however is what happens he says I didn't have found says okay he didn't know at the time found it's good that is is not like that scenario now we're going to discuss all those all these four it's very nice guarantee that's very says him so that's no question now we have what happens when he uses the but he saysin if you we go whatever's explicit is AR therefore even though you said said AR [Applause] everything except one scenario even Scar's G to say he says this is said then could get away with it 100% completely is never your only time you is if the the go takes the money and gives it to the person who needs the money and it didn't even touch the Le's hand directly then we say then you have nothing to do with the however is a concept of able to go to the but it's only time we're going to see wasn't the best dying instead of going first to the instead of first going to the it's not he went to the Earth he went first so he he removed him as a DI because he shouldn't have done that he first should have gone to the I'm going to be an therefore should go to the you don't go to him first but afterwards if you could go to the in a scenario where the life is causing issues now we're going to discuss or another concept we're worried that either the or maybe even other people gave it to the AR of himself or the M he gave him bundles of money to start paying what happened was money went to the paid him back and now he wants to go to the and get paid now that you went and paid him back you know what you did you turned it from a to pay back yet till they get older is only therefore for the for now we have a different problem he brings brings from however the reason is over here we're nervous that maybe he started pain off says two scenarios we're going to see which is going to see in a moment then whether the person was mighty right before he died or you're not either way getting from the assment they put him top what only be however from however if he has a receipt that says okay so we have a case like we said with the father's still have nothing change it's still what now right now now rather what do we look at it asked me had a bank let say l he had money and he was he paid it before he went to the there's no how many to say that the person's going to start paying up because he knows they're going to go directly to the said back no tells back since what I know if a bank I'm lending money I'm willing to be an aror for let's say a bank I know the bank's going to immediately come to me then I can even bother to the life that what am I going to do if I know that I'm not going to start getting money already now from the whether it's a payment plan I'll never agree to be an therefore you that the father started paying in this case we're saying that the that he started paying to who to the directly earlier was what to the Mal here we're changing it to the we said earlier that you cannot we're worry that they're going to do a that he's going to get divorce get theba and laugh laugh all the way to the bank remarry his wife so there was a raun people don't know but raun people ask you who is Run's father it clearly says this who is his who was his father his name was so let's see it Insight he had a sonuna wanted to marry a girl the girl said I'm not willing it sound like he had a few dollars to name to this he says I want thear to guarantee it so he guaranteed it now raun he was said learn day kids got older could go give this let him divorce his wife him Go's father let them get married what do you mean we just learned that's that we we prevent that call you have to say that D and you're going to get divorced no you can even get divorced in other places in a place where you're going to do it in front of the two and they're not going to do the ne ended up coming that it didn't help why weren't going to help the came remarry his wife so somebody that's always has circumstances he never gets out of the hole everything goes wrong so over here finally had a good to get back you know get back out of this issue next you know he's a if he wasn't a he would have had this now really said this we learned this earlier says in a scenario where he say I want to give my and afterwards I want to give it to shim so there's no question the is that he wants really to go to shim ISU can technically go and sell it and if it's sold it's sold however the says so does such a thing it's considered a r you have nothing to gain why you giving bad a answerers it's different since he's and he's a son the father's happy to really do such a prent yeah maybe you pushed him a little but he has to pay the but you can say he's happy he was more than that he was aw understanding when was he had no money he was and he got married Noy answer is no he had a lot of money got ruined got burnt now he doesn't have money when the father it's not a stranger it's a son what are we saying therefore even such a case where there's no the ex even even know why if anything is helping people get married and more than that when a person lends his life savings to his friend he's taking a RIS he's not going to get his n back so then we understand however by a marriage no no let them get married no one really thinks by their marriage in today's day and age very few people are thinking how how much is theba worth people get married you don't go that direction not losing any money later on but later on says you know what that that ,000 actually can't go to he because it belongs to ruin the question is is he believed or not she's not here to steal from he she has nothing to lose by giving it to Ru a person we say that he's going to do with his sons only and what do we worried about there a person doesn't want to make his people you know that his sons have a lot of money we'll know when when rumors go out that a guy's a he gets hounded he gets harassed so say the same thing by he maybe if he's a let's say let's say now he's still thinking he might become a bar again he doesn't want the whole world to know that what how wealthy is so we're on top of you know talking about scenario when I'm saying Ru I ow1 Ru Ru holding onar so then it adds up but in a regular case we don't say both cases even R and this case case is is not therefore what so it depends now that it's you're not GNA get it was he says $100 and we however the father said which direction we going makes sense to go where the father says give clearly said I want ruing getting paid is $100 then we can understand that listen however just says $100 is didn't say give it to them maybe say didn't end the pain because it wasn't so black and white the directions this we have to read they're Ting that the father retracted a statement he says you know what I remember hey I did I ended up paying back however when he gives a clear direction to go give it he thought about before he said he said wait a second go pay we don't say that he remembers that he paid it back that he owes somebody money question is usually in a regular case if I want to say something I have to tell you are my Witnesses that's not number one and Aid without clear directions to say to go write it we learned this earlier in the you don't write it without Clear Directions so the question is that's one question even did not get directions do that to write it answers so what's the do we is he pling or not therefore what and you do not need to write okay we are at the final final in the entire it depends where's the signatures then you just have an saying I'm the guarantee only we can say never made no not even from anything why imagine walking you see a guy holding screaming at a person pay me back him guy says don't worry I'll take care of it I'll take care of don't be so in such a case let's be real I'll take care you L the money years ago now you decided to be I'm going to step in but I'm not really committing myself that's when you go to says you want to loan no problem go get only reason why I L it because I trusted you though you want to come smart say everything is a lot of La Wellspring everything's flowing what should you do you should go and learn should be under says clearly know since there's no call how am I supposed to know that what that you lent him money I didn't I didn't know anything about this therefore because you can't be good there's a call you should have known better because you should know better since a is this really true we learned this earlier by wants to get double so that says if they're getting he's going to get double so the reason why he's getting double is because there was a she already it maybe maybe say over here says is not it's rather RAB that can't be because we know clearly holds is we all know get but he says when you go back to the earlier we learn about just going himself bar what happens the guy's illegally creating a pit not only that he's in the pit he's digging a came and killed him we all know is usually makes even if the dies so again the way to understand that the father is not more than a and we see so it's a that says we just saw started off the sh is not there how do you understand the case of the you know we're talking about where was was ready says you killed him right there and that he got killed how was he was dying he had few minutes to live few moments to live whatever time he was living but they gave him time that he was able to go to B we learned cover he was buried over there the went and kill the M over there answer that was happens to be that were there we explained we made have made a little sense we said that the argument really was when he built the Barb he was in his and not only that we said the case was he SLE B to come and say look it's in my R and he comes in to whatever he's busy with his bar next you know and killed him so over there they said what you're you know why cuz not we we gave a little T to understand how do you really understand that like that case makes a little more sense okay we're on top of involve the last final it's not fear to the what happens now so it's interesting we learned there really two had to learn this question very more B it's not so B of call usually the sh we can understand to make it easier is we know whenever there's a call the call is enough to make it because you know when you buy the property so maybe the child was now when there was I there's no call but maybe the H made out a call however the clearly is not learn like that says the sh could be is maybe we say that the whole hemp the whole thing of K is only helping the or we could say now it's coming like AAR that there a and you could change it even though originally there was no whether you're learning like that or you're learning like a cult so you can't change it or learning that the I you later that there there's no call we mentioned this in that there three gets that are however only no Witnesses on the it's a good get even there's no holds it clearly says our answer is no there's by the yourself over here I owe you you never had is later on to trigger is not going to change or we could learn that later on now that you're trying to do it it's not over there there was a call right away we said it depends if it's after the you can't be answer you don't when can you not be the you just wrote the words p a seate statement and the them signing in that that one does everything we're understanding going what happened was you wrote again you wrote regards to my cousin so we're worried only even with the we just said even with the it's still so what changing by you read it and says [Applause] like we just learned this he says says not even look at the praising his ban is not like agreed to the case where you're choking a person the regular does not need [Applause] a do need a what is when it's giving the money he does not need a k however if it's ready when he gave the money do need a k because then we say he's not himself however you know why which is the final words of given