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Rejuvenation: BDS and Breaking Double Standards
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Nati Rom is a former ‘hill top youth’ turned very busy Human Rights lawyer. He speaks with Eve about the organization Or Ami (named for his wife’s war hero first husband) devoted to defending both Jewish kids and Arab victims of Arab torture. This proud young man, motivated by faith and a desire to truly heal the world, is also founder of Lev HaOlam, helping businesses in Judea and Samaria by connecting them with supporters around the world. We all talk about fighting BDS; he acts on it. Join him and bring Israel’s heartland into your home.
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hi everybody Eve Hara rejuvenation on
the Land of Israel Network I'm sitting
in the middle of Jerusalem on a
beautiful day having a cup of coffee
with nasty room who I've been following
Ashlee for a while finally got him
because it's a busy man he's a lawyer he
lives in a Scottish outside of sheilo he
is also the founder of live how LA which
I know some of you because I know some
of you who are listening to this some of
you get those wonderful packages every
month the surprises from Judea and
Samaria so we've got a lot to talk about
not to thoughts to thank you so much for
joining me today
thank you so much all right so let's
start with let's start with you so we're
like what's your a burst of your
personal story oh wow
so I was born and raised in Israel in
Petach Tikva niché's who in beginning in
the kibbutz and then in particular into
a beautiful family with a lot of
ideology in their life they did a lot
for Israel and in my when I was 16 I
felt I want to do a little bit more for
Israel and I moved to I quit I quit
school and I went to yeshiva Sheba
Talmud gun it was a Hasidic yeshiva we
it was the new thing that we are going
to start reaching out in the center of
Israel and also I wanted to be more
connected to the Land of Israel so I
started to be active active in
pioneering and establishing new villages
including a fraud I always say to the
people of a fraud that I was I was
sleeping my first time I was arrested
was when I was sleeping in on rocks in a
sleeping bag in a frat now today we have
beautiful homes over there
mine is one so yeah so I try to connect
myself to my purpose to God to the
governor and to the Land of Israel how
did your family take this
it wasn't easy especially when I quit
school why you know I ruined my future
as we say so it was tough but
my good parents believed in me and it
was I'm sure it was tough today as a
parent I also realize how difficult it
can be
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so in the article there's a very big
article I'm not see in McCrory Sean
which is this amazing paper that comes
out only in Hebrew unfortunately then
most of you guys can't read it but you
know I discuss it a lot a few weeks ago
and it said that he says in there that
he became a lawyer to give his mother a
little bit of not hot like a little bit
of joy from him I'm sure it's a slight
exaggeration yeah I did a lot of
troubles to my family a great family and
and tells God you know when I went to
law school it was we I want to I always
say that it was arrested so many times
on a Temple Mount because I prayed or or
on the hilltops of Judea answer my I
didn't have any more money for lawyers
so I became a lawyer myself but my so it
was it was for my family for me when I
went there I finish also unique in
excellence since they have to say in a
very good level I was like first in
class we were the three best students
and I have a special on my wall way ever
special you know no certificate of
excellence yes and I gave it to my
mother
everyone's hearing this make your
mother's happy okay that's the message
over here
so you said you you were arrested you
were one of the hilltop youth and we
express will you explain that's a term
that's bandied about a lot the hilltop
youth and they're getting in trouble and
they're getting arrested in there
getting doing this and doing that you
were one of them you're now defending
some of them but tell us a little bit
what is this Tafoya this this thing all
hilltop youth I see it as a very
positive to fire them very positive fain
people who teenagers and the ages going
down and down with people with a lot of
love to the trial of a lot of love to
this to this land who are taking what
they were taught in their homes are
taking it the next step they realize the
Bible is not only stories to say to your
fairy tales to your friends and to your
children but something you want to live
with not only to be a religious but to
be a real believer who is going with his
believers
with his hood with with with his mission
to the end and people are taking very
very seriously
it's also have some pathologies because
when you are in injured answer my knee
hold up alone without any supervisor and
sometimes they are also you come from a
family who doesn't know how to deal with
this situation so it are things that we
need to help them to go in the right
direction
but in in basic it's a very it's a very
special thing unfortunately today Jude
answer Maya we need a sovereignity and
those people know those teenagers cannot
suffer there are there are young and
they cannot understand why you cannot
pray in a temple mount why do cannot sit
down in a sleeping bag on the hilltop in
Judea and Samaria in his forefathers
home and they are upset from this and
it's there a lot of bad things also the
police treat treat them also in a very
bad way myself I was I was arrested so
many times I know what happened to me I
know what policeman did to me against
the law by the way and this is why I
took it as a mission to be a lawyer and
to protect every Jew or non-jew who is
working and arrested only because they
did something God told him to do you
know we were raised in in school when
the stories of the heroes who blow the
shofar in the Kotel people with
teenagers at 12 and 13 years old
children it wasn't allowed to blow the
shofar the British didn't allow it in
the Kotel and watch Hashanah Yom Kippur
what you do you blow the shofar teeny
small children 12 and 13 years old
children go to the cotton in the right
moment there hide themselves behind it
elites the shells of the of the Coenen
and they blow the shofar this is was I
was taught in the in the schools and I
will I wanted to be like this child and
sometimes they were arrested and put in
jail in the kishle
in Jaffa Gate until today and the police
there is a gel over there and I
represent a lot of the children all the
children are arrested in Temple Mount
are arrested there and I felt a me and
that's you know I want to be like this
children who blow the shofar spiritually
and physically blow the shofar and
didn't have any problem and doubts even
if it wasn't legal they know this is
what God want from them and this is what
they will do
I was in some way we are continuing the
Zionist movement and our history of our
forefathers who came here didn't care
about laws or ferner laws but only about
and the Bible and our our vision and
they were confident with this land and
this place so every Jew who is arrested
and not because he stole from somebody
some somebody but something because he
wanted to bring back to himself the
rights basic human rights we speak all
the time about human rights right all
those big anti-semitic organizations who
are in this new the sky of human rights
so let's speak about human rights what
about a freedom of speech and movement
and prayer in a most holy place for
Israel in Jerusalem we press those this
is a privilege for me to protect those
rights and I consider myself a lawyer
who deal with human rights in Human
Rights daily of Jewish people in their
homeland so there are some people who
will say and I'm sure say to you all the
time doing what God told you is a very
very big door I mean we have Muslims who
will say well God told me I should blow
myself up so how do you you know frame
that to say ok it has to be like blowing
shofar is obviously not equal to blowing
yourself up for God but every religion
is going to interpret what they do for
God in their own way and how does that
get maintained in some kind of Western
society not everybody can go and do what
they think I tells him to do so let's
face it from two sides one Western
society one of the first thing God do
with Israel when they are coming inside
the Holy Land of Israel is the confident
in the two mountains that women are a
valiant gem in what called today Nablus
and it's a very simple message six
tribes go to our to work harder the
blessing Mountain six tribes are going
to the curse Mountain divisive Convenant
if you behave and you follow the Torah
you receive you receive salary if not
god forbid the opposite one of the
biggest message of this covenant who was
like the first ceremony the first
covenant when the people of Israel came
to arity style was to distinguish
between good and bad
so to blow the shofar it's good to blow
yourself and kill and kill children and
women and men it's bad regardless which
God name you're in which name of God you
you talk so what we
speaking about it's the it's it's the
right it it's proof it's the moral Torah
and a religion of teach to hate and to
kill is not it's not it's not moral it's
not good so this is the first thing
second of course we are doing this we
don't we we are not an analogy and if
this is the other side we are trying to
big some very neat injured in Judah
answer my aunt you bring the judge the
judge system and in the parliament to
bring the right laws if the Parliament
didn't realize until today that it's
important to protect the human rights of
the Jewish people in the Temple Mount we
need to help them to do that you need to
understand that it's a privilege for me
to be a part of this try to be a part of
this movement for 70 years religious
Zionism as we call it didn't invest in
the low system the other side the left
secular
movement work very hard to conquer the
the the judgment obviously like the
organization and to bring bad and to be
they are today the the kings of this of
this land and regardless which
Parliament you choose regardless with
other Swiss Prime Minister the
government from the right but yet the
Supreme Court is avoiding all those
their law so we need to invest and this
is something we don't do enough and this
is something we are working very very
hard to do we don't have a lot of budget
for it the left organizations give
millions of euros from text money of a
lot of your listeners and from
Switzerland and from Norway and from
Germany there are number one in many
other countries in the United States
they give money to lawyers to fight
against everything with Jewish in Israel
in the Supreme Court and we
unfortunately don't do enough in the
other side so we are trying to raise
awareness and money and efforts to do
the same thing for Israel and to start
to work people are acquiring when places
are demolish it
the Parliament is demolishing places in
Judea and Samaria
nobody really fight it in court so we
need to do those changes Cystic it's a
long battle and we need to start to do
it so just actually earlier this morning
I spoke to a group of students at the
beggin center they were also hearing
from someone from peace now who is one
of these organizations that you're
talking about here and one of the
questions that they asked me was how
come these kids sometimes get violent
these hilltop youth one of the things
that I said is first of all it's very
very few of them really a very few of
them most of them are really good kids
were lost to some degree but I said you
have to understand they have a lot of
frustration they're seeing a double
standard here they're hearing they're
seeing hypocrisy across the way from
where they live their Arab homes
mansions going up Arabs driving in
unbelievable cars on the road and these
are supposedly the poor people and the
downtrodden people while the Jews can't
even enclose a porch without it going to
the General Assembly of the of the UN
and there's there's will you talk about
here the basic human rights are they see
in a Jewish country that the Jews are
actually on the downside of it and
there's incredible frustration and these
kids are pointing to a truth which is
it's not fair there's a double standard
so what's interesting about you is
you're not a hypocrite so you are not
representing the Jewish kids who feel
like their rights are trampled on well
you're known for is also you have Arab
clients
so tell me listeners a little bit about
that of course listen always people not
to be confused people speak about right
and left a lot of those left
organizations who are fighting against
Israel in many many ways a number
against the Jewish state of Israel
they don't really like Arabs they don't
have any relationship with them they
don't want any we're in church with them
it's only procuracy the guys who sit
down with Arabs for coffee and have a
real conversation it's same or many of
the settlers and many of our people so
and this is a good example what you just
brought up we have the privilege to
represent 52 Arabs
nobody wanted to represent them this
even the State of Israel didn't take
care enough of them those people were
helping Israel and by preventing terror
attacks in Israel they save life of
innocence of Jewish children of women of
men and who and we have a mobile-home
depth to them to help them and nobody
help them and those people why did they
need help they were going to be killed
by other word exactly after after the
the help Israel the the so-called PLO
the Palestinian authorities kidnapped
them and put them in jail so you cannot
even call it a jail it was you know a
will tortures wheels fifty percent of
them cannot bring children to this world
because their tortures make sure and
told them they would not be able to
bring will once like in the movie I
don't want it's too tough we you know
after you read 100 pages it's thousands
of pages but when you read even after
three pages you cannot continue to read
it it's it's awful
they have they have a real tortures like
you imagine even worse than some of them
were raped and killed in enduring this
area and we have the privilege to take
this case we also have the privilege to
receive a verdict of two thousand of two
thousand pages the longest verdict in
Israel that proved that we were right
and fifty to those fifty two and poor
Arabs were kidnapped and tortures and we
needed a lot of money to bring doctors
to examine them for the lawsuit
and we started to to write letters to
230 human rights organization registered
in Israel help us including some
organization that they warded tortured
sins inside their logo you know but from
some reason nobody wanted to help 230
organizations didn't want to help except
a few of them as a Raghava man Honan and
so on and so this is an improper see
those human rights organization are not
human rights organization they are doing
everything they can to fight Israel but
once here we are speaking about will
torturers of people who try to save life
nobody want to help them we had a debate
with Amnesty who did a big embargo
against Israel and the host of the of
the TV channel said to them why you
doing bargain Israel said we are the
biggest human rights organization in
Israel don't fight us fight so I then
they put me on air and they tell me what
about this case why you don't help so
the representative of him Amnesty said
we don't have the means we don't have
the means to have the biggest human
rights organization of putting millions
of euros everything he can against
Israel cannot don't have the means to
help those poor Arabs so of course we we
are the will peace seekers we are we
pray for peace three times a day every
time a man I imagine how will peace will
come to to the world but every time and
text money of people from all of the
world goal to terrorists who sitting in
Israeli jails against of Israeli law
international laws and we are one step
and we were going one step back from
peace this is not peace the real
peaceful comment has got a mayor always
said when we Arabs who love the children
children more than eight us and will
stop to brainwash the children
so you mentioned we what's your
organization called so it's it's mainly
me we have an organization called over
me on the name of the first husband of
my wife my wife was 19 years old all the
nine month pregnant when her first first
husband was killed in the last day of
the war of the second lebanon war and in
a very brave attack he received a badge
of honor for it
Amina Shula me Shimon condom or one of
17 brothers and sisters live in
Gaza Strip in it's a dream into caravans
big hero and three weeks after this my
wife had her the birth of the first
daughter so you married a war Widow and
adopted her daughter you're raising her
as your own yeah yeah Hashem with the
rabbits and Adidas and we're raising me
we have six kids so the organization
over meets in the name of the first
husband of of my wife and also all of me
you know we were speaking about be light
for the nations and not like the nations
are many many people in Israel want to
be like the nations want to live in
Berlin because the milk is cheaper than
here Zionism you know especially the
secular movement movement is dying and
you see that the second and third
generation of the real Zionist movement
in the beginning of Israel they are not
interested anymore you know you want to
live in Uganda you don't want to live in
Israel
whatever just we want to be like the
nations but here it's a new generation
of people who are come it's a new
command new floor new stage in
Redemption time to bring their nism to a
holy level to somebody who is very very
connected to the Torah very who is like
not only something you do by case but
something who is meant to be and to
bring mashiac and to bring to bring
redemption to this world so we are in
very very strong work and mission to
bring to being to do whatever we can in
all the aspects in at Israel in homicide
in in the Torah and to bring Redemption
to this world so we have over me and
this is what we are trying to do this
the legal work and to do and we have a
three planned project especially you
know the Arabs have a project called
roots they are planning trees many
people don't know about it they take
tree is from the a territory and they
put it in C territory in Israeli
territories are trying to conquer the
next step of Israel and nobody is
fighting this and this is why it's
important for us to hold the land the
government and for Israel for Israel and
we are putting trees in the mountains of
Samaria and Judea and we have the
privilege to be a part of the of the
prophecies and a part of this stage we
also of course have the level of my
organization when my wife and I
around eight or nine years ago we open
organization called level on the heart
of the world I speak Italian French so
many tourists came to us we started we I
live in a car and then in a cave and in
a tent in hilltops in neck Susheela and
people came to see us and sorry slowly
we started to speak to them and to open
our doors also to people from abroad and
also to people doesn't think like like
us and it was important for us not only
to be connected to the Land of Israel
but also to be connected to the people
of Israel and to all the all the
humanity because I would work it's not
only for us it's a work for all Halla me
my house would be will be called the
house of prayer for all the nations and
it was important for us to spread it and
to do a grassroots movement of people
that will be in in a connection with us
a direct connection with us so what is
love how alarm what do you do physically
level um it's a grassroots movement and
we are selling they're boycotting they
are trying to boycott Jew dancer Mona
and producers and products and we are
selling and supporting and those
producers from the frontline we do a
direct connection between people who
love Israel all over the world and the
pioneers from Judea and Samaria and it's
even more than buying product it's about
connection people are subscribe to a
package to receive every month a package
with beautiful bounty of Judea and
Samaria and Israel with the story and
the personal story of the people and we
give income and the best thing is to do
it so give the income to the people to
the producers who are hover helmed of
thousands of others that we do for them
every month they can establish their
their businesses it's amazing to see our
people are starting to to live and to
work and to bring their neighbors also
to work because one of the thing we need
here also it's more workplaces and you
know people like to help but you know
the best way if you see how important is
the work of the Harton of Israel into
dance or Maya you are so unique you're
like the Maccabee like the get on
soldiers that don't waste your energy in
time and do exactly that because the
only few people can see this and
understand our enemies see it you see
how the UN and the U is fighting to
dance or my ISO to maybe in times when
it's difficult time said to my wife look
look how all the world is is speaking
about places that we establish
to demolish my home wanted the militia
villages that I established this is this
is a good time that we can understand
that we are doing the right thing and we
need supporters of Israel from all over
the world Jews and non-jews to reunite
with us and to be connected also one of
the best things that I do I give my
private number of people will be
connected with us on what's up and we
are sending good news and bad news
yesterday that we had a vineyard towards
destroy in the night nobody know about
that and went to spread it a lot of
terror case that nobody knows a lot of
good things that nobody knows and this
one of the first step is to go behind
the lives of them in the fake news and
the lies of the media and to do a direct
connection
I also saw Jewish my brothers and
sisters Jewish people from all the world
they are coming to Israel for pastor
there's in King David in Manila and they
sometimes come with their bulletproof
bus to to Judea and Samaria and say
koulikov old I like meat naturally in
Cola kavod I like the cellars go for it
but then there is no real connection and
so something that I feel very very much
we need this connection also it's not
it's a real connection because we are
walking for something for all the
university Kuno Lama will tikkun olam we
are a real alternative to bring a real
Redemption we are following steps of our
forefathers of our Torah and we need
everybody that God spoke to him and
understand this truth to join us and we
see the prophecies unfolding in front of
our eyes it's a it's unbelievable it's
really almost frightening to see you
open the prophets and you see what I'm
talking about
like as a tour guide I see all these
nations walking around I see people from
Nigeria speak of people speaking
Portuguese from Brazil and I think to
myself oh my goodness I don't even have
to know if the prophets understood what
they were saying when they were saying
it and I'm seeing it happening in front
of my eyes there's somebody who travels
a lot in in you - Ramon in Judea and
Samaria and does and this is why I'm so
connected to what you're saying
tries to connect people to people and
what you do with love whole um just to
explain I had been to places let's say
and stay bar and I'm speaking to an aqua
man he's telling Nachman and he's
telling me that he just packaged 4000
little bottles little jars of buttermilk
or whatever it is because he got an
order from you or I'm up any tomorrow
and I'm talking to about your urge Steen
who makes beautiful ceramics and she's
telling me oh I just made fourth
I don't know whatever was little as T
candleholders whatever it was she said
because not team ordered 4,000 first of
all it picks them up financially because
it's not so easy and as you said the BTS
but not only that they know that in a
couple of weeks 4,000 homes around the
world are getting a piece of them are
getting something that they created
something that they did with love
something that they want to connect with
and I don't know I mean I assume you
realize how important this is and it's
really something tremendous and I go
around and see people say that sadness
all the time yeah yeah yeah nothing 1992
soaps and cash it
the Cibona throw in cocoa vishakha who
started a business because her son had
Down syndrome
he was also thrown out of Gush Katif his
son has Down syndrome he wants to have a
company for his son to work in and he's
got a little company making soaps for
kids who are disabled it's what you have
done where you and your wife have done
it is amazing and I really want to
recommend everybody who's listening to
this how did they if they want a package
okay how did they connect with you so
they go to our website over Facebook
join us in facebook facebook we have a
page naughty Rahm and we have a page
level um join us it's all over there all
the information where was away website
yes it's amazing to see the producers of
Judah Maria were attacked and boycotted
from all over the world
you mentioned San Benito this guy is
almost demolition it's a dream in which
qatif he came when I when I first met
him he didn't have nothing he didn't
know what to do it came to Samarra to
start all over again as you mentioned
you have a Down syndrome son and he was
thinking about how I can do something
also for my income and also to give a
work to my to my son and his friends and
it was a container a small container it
we didn't know how even how to market to
his thing and we said ok we will buy
thousands of your product and we have
the privilege by Hashem we had a big
privilege for Michele to be able to give
pan Assad to give income and to those
people and this is a part of our also a
redemption in this land when we were
four young boys after in military and we
went to the mountains of Samaria it's it
was a it was so dreary there was nothing
there everything was the empty and we
even didn't believe that we will manage
to do what we did there was no roads
it's crazy days you know
and we'll leave there without
electricity without water from those
four teenagers you see our thousands of
people are there now and hundreds of
hundreds of family and children and it's
we see the filling of the prophecies in
front of our eyes and we also need to go
to the next page to connect all new
kulhanek bits of our whole our brothers
and sisters in the world need to be
connected with that you know if you are
if you are connected we need to also to
act people like to say oh I love Israel
we pray for Israel I will pray for you
daily this is not enough our enemies is
not only praying against us they are
very actively working against us in the
whole Medela in all their hearts time
and energy and money they are working
against Israel we need two people to
join us we can win this as the Gideon
soldiers at the makkah beam we can
banish this darkness from the world but
we need the light people to join us and
to be connected this is the this is the
secret I only believe in connection I
had a guy Reform rabbi from New York who
called me that he is in a week now in
the left him in Ramallah and he also
wanted to spend a day with me and he
tried to go to other people nobody
wanted to host him he was afraid from
this meeting and I also was skeptical in
the beginning you know you go for a
whole week to to hear the Arabic
narrative and then you come for one day
for me I don't know but it sounds good
and I wanted to to meet him so we met
and we became a good friends and I
discovered that a lot of his
congregation and love is raw and don't
know enough about Israel maybe but they
love Israel they're real they're honest
many of them and it's important to do
those connection it's important to do it
be front of our brothers sisters and
also with people from rola all over the
world I travel once in a month to
different places all over the world as a
part of this as I see that how it's
important to gather everybody and to
make close connection and I read
connection I'm travelling once in a
month to other places all over the world
and it's unbelievable to find people
from all over the world from different
point of views different background
Jewish and non-jewish religious and not
religious who have a big heart for
Israel and this is something amazing
it's also something very prophetic in my
eyes and it's something to see people
who are keeping Shabbat and you know I I
Drive once an hour for a meeting inside
there was nothing there and then and
they receive a package of level
and a and the nd and they do Shabbat and
people a woman who asked me if I can put
an L Z cojones I'm special Kendall for
Kendall because they don't know much
thought for pastor they don't have it's
like a beautiful beautiful bear project
and I like those connection I think we
can we don't have the millions that our
enemies have enemies of Israel have
billions billions of people and billions
of money also from all over the world
from other anti-semitic war a war do is
trying you know it's a whole story
everybody is fighting us but we have a
lot of people who love Israel and
together we can do such a big change and
to do a real tikkun olam Michael Lerner
tikkun olam out of Berkeley yeah but
really making the world a better place
how do you decide where to go people
invite you you come to conferences yeah
people invite us to come to speak I just
came back from Texas and from Germany
and Philippines and Singapore we always
happy we especially me my wife doesn't
like it so much that I'm in Germany know
what I'm doing it short so I'm always
happy to go and to meet face to face and
I think will work it's a may it's
amazing to see how people do you know
people wake up people wake up to action
and we need to start to grow these grass
roots to be a big forest of Army who
want to join Israel and to be part and
partners with us in the past that we are
walking as you travel around the world
are you do you see that there's
anti-semitism in those places it's clear
that there's anti-semitism against
Israel and a lot of my listeners know
that a lot of what poses is anti-zionism
but we just don't like Israel it's
really anti-semitism in its new modern
guise but what are you seeing when you
go out to these places because like what
I see when I go to these places is I'm
afraid for people out there there's
something so I'm older than you are by
not such a little and when I was growing
up you didn't feel this I didn't feel
this in the 70s now that I'm feeling
things that people you have a keep on do
you feel free walking around with your
kippa wherever you go because there's
certain places that the Jews many places
where the Jews aren't feeling so
comfortable doing that anymore or like
we see what happened in Pittsburgh and
maybe it was a one-off thing maybe it
wasn't what's your sense from when you
go out the atmosphere there okay so
first of all I'm going with her Koopa
and I have pay out the long Pelt I
cannot hide my indentity and I like it I
can tell you a nice story when the first
time I went to the state somebody told
me be careful in the ninth
especially in certain areas in Harlem
and stuff and and I went to there I had
a meeting in Harlem in the night and
once I go out from the sub
I immediately somebody see me and he
said to me hey yo yo and as I was told I
don't I don't reply don't do I
connection right and I go a little bit
faster and he's going after me and
shouting more I was hoping he doesn't
don't shout on me I was walking away yo
way yo man and then I said what and he
said to me nice hair style I like your
hairstyle
we're like Rasta or something yeah but
the guy and the guy is so I I feel there
is anti-semitic there are places like in
Norway many and also in Germany and also
in the States I have a few things and
also people who follow me following me
and try to you know many times when I
come to speak they are doing a protest
against me and not Iran don't come don't
come back when I came back from speaking
in the Parliament of the you and I spoke
there about the media about the BDS and
about Israel and there was a whole
manifest against us even with violence
but you know I I this is I was in the
army I'm not I mean I mean this is this
is why i feel proud i feel proud and
it's sad to see all the especially the
jewish people around me in the
communities were afraid or afraid and
say wow you don't put a casket maybe or
something and i say no this is this is
who i am and this is how i want to go
but you know i hope the people of israel
will come back to the Holy Land not
because of anti-semitic because they
want to be a part of this Redemption and
hopefully only with good news they are
coming but of course we we feel you go
to places today in Paris in in Europe
that you feel like in the cast by not
alone so of course we're in the lead up
just a couple months away to Israeli
election so once that's go you
politically involved here in Israel and
do you think that a lot of the things
you're doing is despite the government
or with the government like you know
we're in a democracy and obviously
that's incredibly important to all of us
but as you said at the beginning of the
interview there's certain things that we
have to
coach the the powers-that-be in order to
realize what has to be done especially
new java Shomron which has been left in
this like amorphous bubble of nobody
really taking responsibility like they
should for the past 50 years both of the
jews and of the arabs living there so
how are you working you're working
within the political system here or are
you belong to a party can you talk about
that I know a lot of my American
listeners will be shocked that I'm
asking about politics because there it's
taboo you can't talk about it here we
talk about it we talk freely we disagree
we all at each other but we say what we
believe in so so where do you sit with
that so I don't really believe in
politics in politics I was trying to not
to work in this field we have a lot now
it's election time we have a lot of
people who are coming to us once in a
month we have the Prime Minister Bibi
Netanyahu we have the president will be
Ridley and we have a lot of Ministers
the Chairman and spokesman of the
Knesset who came coming to where you
live to seal our coming to me with you
to visit us to visit our project and to
endorse us also every month we have
another minister and prime minister who
is writing a letter to our partners and
supporters from all over the world thank
and thank for them and they are helping
us to do the packages project also so we
have a lot of influence and help and
connection today also in the political
area but as I said today the man also
one of the biggest problems we have that
people are not connected to religious or
not connected to doesn't have the spine
you know of the Torah you know a real
shock or none of our biggest friend one
of us who work with us and told us go to
every hilltop and every touch the land
in ND sold us all out so we see that the
majority of the problems happen when the
right government was in the regime so it
was it's so especially its to do the
work as a grassroots movement and to do
the work also in the judgement because
he owned by mishpat t-pod a sign will be
redeemed by judgment as we see today the
democracy it's damaged by a very active
court Supreme Court in Israel is a very
left Court and one of the unique active
court in the world who is not chosen by
the in a democratic way and is voiding
the
Radek close so we need to act in this in
this field very very it's very important
to invest money and time in this and
this is what we are trying to do also
politics those are vessels for us to
bring redemption and to continue our
work but we are here with the politics
of Hashem to say this is our land this
is our heritage our connection to this
then it's not like the connection of in
Italian to Italy or so on it's it's much
more deeper than that
we don't occupy this land as the guys
with the uf from the US for 242 years
and we occupy this kind of thousands of
years since God this is the land I will
give to you in this sentence so it's in
other politics it's and also about
democracy we are pro-democracy and we
are pro we need one of the biggest thing
is to have judgments and to have laws
but we need to fix also this and we need
to do it in the right way we need to
teach to our to ourself to our neighbors
to the non-jewish people all over the
world and too big a wheel at the wheel
moral the moral of Hashem and to all
over the world total curiosity how is it
that you speak fluent French and Italian
in addition to English and obviously
Hebrew English the most interesting I
watch a lot of movies mazing how many
Israelis tell me they learn their
English from television for movies not
in class but from the media so so this
is my English French was the language of
secrets of my parents so it was one of
my first languages that I learned any
telly I was in there trying to speak
French she wouldn't understand and
that's why you picked it up I pick it up
very very early and it I was a few years
in Italy I initially hood alright no cuz
I have a son who's living in Italy he's
studying medicine in Italy because we
have affirmative action here and so a
lot of the Arabs get into the spaces and
a lot of the Israeli Jews after the army
ends up going to Europe so but he was
told when he had to learn Italian of
course he's studying in English but he
had to learn Italian cuz you have to go
shopping and deal with patience he was
said ok this is the language that will
serve you only in Italy and if you go to
Libya which we're not recommending and
side of that nobody really speaks
Italian so it's nice when he comes to
visit I'll send him to you and he can
and he could speak Italian
so what are you what do you are you
optimistic let's say for your children
what you know that is the big before and
after definitely from my life I've seven
children you have six once you become a
parent the world is completely different
the future looks completely different
because you want to leave a better world
for your children even if it's picking
up the garbage but definitely when it's
a Jewish world in a safe world in Israel
the stakes are much higher are you
optimistic for your children's world are
you concerned yes yes I'm very very
optimistic first of all because I know
as a believer I know what will be the
end demo and then will be beautiful
and we are all waiting for it and now we
are need to work that the the wait for
that into this will be sweet and
beautiful also we you know I'm very
optimistic and this is what I'm trying
to teach my children also the teenagers
that I represent this is something very
very deep that I try to say to them that
not everything it's in our hand and this
world is it's not easy but there is a
lot of sweetness and also to spread this
this love is real we love to our
children to our water to sisters this
connection to the people it's also so
important not less the connection to the
to the land it's all together and this
is something very very important and I
have optimist you know when we go back
to see those four young boys who took a
car and didn't shower for a year for not
four years four weeks one of them being
you that's what you're saying he
showered now I can guarantee I wasn't
married yet
and and and we live and to see now what
we accomplished it's amazing come sheilo
come to visit us and what you all to
come to a Scottish co-writes revel I'm
in ways you will see in google map you
will see my place you can call me nine
seven two five two five six six five six
six zero be in touch through what's up
and be in come to visit and seen your
eyes what teenagers with a lot of dreams
and and holy dreams from the Bible to
come to redeem the land with the help of
God what we accomplished it's amazing
it's amazing there is a lot of
restoration and it's tough it's tough to
see your brothers and sisters killed and
and nobody's paying the price and teres
received
and prizes because they kill us and hate
Israel and to see our brother and sister
suffering and today it's it's to see the
Arab student and our woman and our men
harvesting playing walking in the
streets of Judah answer Maya without any
fear in their heart as normal life
should be and I'm jealous
when I see my children goes to school
with a bulletproof cars and I see their
children go with on donkeys as I see and
as I dream my children goes and they
cannot do that because they will risk a
life for me it's such a it's such a
disgrace a shame and we feel a lot of
time alone a lot of time alone but we
need their you know we need to see the
nice way of the life and - and to
believe that God is really for a purpose
and that is good and everything I'll
call it the very things for good will
and we are praying to see this goodness
now and here and we have a wall and we
need to bring this goodness and to help
in you know to help God to bring in
codes to bring to bring help God to do
the work here we are we were created to
choose good and to spread good and to
bring Machir and this is what we need to
do and this is not only a sentence that
we say or pray this something we need to
think every day how to do it and those
beautiful people pioneers indeed answer
mine in their heart and in the core in
the core of Israel in the frontline
there are our commando units and you
need to choose I do you want to be a
partner with those commando units you
can be a partner with those people from
all over the world if you are in Norway
if you are in the States whatever you
can be partners with us in many many
ways in prayer in thinking in action in
supporting whatever but be a part of
this because this is something big and
this is very something very very
optimistic and we can see that how more
and more people join our causes you can
just be a bystander to what's gonna
happen in history or you can actually
help hold the pin and that that is
absolutely huge difference so one last
question because a lot of Israelis are
off the whole two-state solution I know
a lot of the world is still lagging
behind and they're still on that
particular idea but a lot of Israelis
left right and center realize we have no
partner and there's there's nothing to
talk about right now what would be your
you talked about Israel putting
sovereignty on Judea and Samaria
so everybody's got different ideas about
exactly what alternatives could be do
you have like a particular idea when you
go out to speak is there like one idea
that you give or you just give a general
like we can't continue with
doing right now we have to deepen that
the most most simple solution for peace
it's distinguished as we said before to
distinguish between good and bad to put
terrorists in jail and to stop finance
them and to give price to pioneers and
good people who are spreading real peace
in this place and to punish the people
who are were bad and trying to fight
people and this will bring peace as you
know as I said before got away he said
the real peace will come when the Hobbs
will love the children more than eight
us but it's so simple than that Israel
the two-state solution is really every
way I don't know if all our lives in
listeners knows that Israeli to go from
the north base to the south place it's
around five hours by car and the wide
it's around one one and a half hours
it's such a tiny place you cannot even
you know if you can't get lost to
village solution so of course not
two-state solution and this is why my
solution is that everybody want to look
and to love Israel and to live here in
peaceful he's welcome and everybody want
to kill us and doesn't agree with the
State of Israel in the Jewish state in
Israel need to leave what about the
people in the middle let's say that you
know not all the Arabs who live in Judea
and Samaria are terrorists they might
not stop the terrorism but maybe they
themselves aren't terrorists what do we
do with them we get a citizenship we
encourage them to go we have a
confederation with Jordan what do we do
because everyone will say no if you
don't think it's an apartheid state and
you know we hear this all the time
peace is coming from a grassroots not
from above also agreement are not the
peace process it's it's it's it's crazy
to put science on Arab village through
and to write the interest for his rates
forbidden and dangerous to your life
this is not peace it is racism and the
real peace will come from grassroots
real peace will come by financing real
peace and educational especially to the
Arab side which teaching the children to
hate Israel I always say to my children
you know they asked me after terror
attacks they asked me how old Arabs are
bad I said no we don't hate people we
hate action we hate the terror but
between you and me to find a good Arab
as we said to the angel dancer my it's a
very
you comfy because they are brainwashing
the children when with money of the
international communities who are
sponsoring una owner schools and and TV
programs who are teaching to kill Jewish
people so we need to start from there
from that to teach them really take over
the education why not what do I mean
first of all sponsored the educational
systems who are teaching them peace
response cuts finance to terror
organizations start to do programs of
image people who want you know in Gush
Katif we spend 10 billions of dollars to
demolish homes and to bring them to
terrorists who shoot on us missiles and
on Tel Aviv why not to use this money
and to give the Arabs a good start money
and with plane tickets to go to a finder
there there were a time their life in
Europe maybe I'm I know that many of
them we will be happy of that and to
live here only people want to live in
will peace and understand they're living
in Israel if you want to live here and
you love Israel and you and you don't
want to kill Israel
you can stay civil rights but not
necessarily the ability to destroy so
from within through our democratic
process of course not we every every
democracy need to protect yourself and
of course everybody was trying to
demolish Israel and try to fight from
inside is not welcome it's simple than
that we see that also Europe is
struggling with that now also and it's
it's a big cancer who is growing in this
in these times in the countries and
Israel need to be to stand up you know
the real problem is us once we will
understand who we are what is our goal
what we need to do in this place what is
our connection to this land and we will
know to stand and to say you know this
is ours this is our father's land this
is rama v no mark the Machpelah Tom this
is sham this is to go back to our roots
the peace will come they will peace will
come for us and for all of our neighbors
all over the world where the indigenous
people here and we're happy to welcome
others but we're home and we're not
going anywhere so the the first steps I
think for everybody who is listening to
us it's to join us be in touch go to
nutty rampage
I hope I will have time to answer
everybody nati i ôm be in touch
what's up it's the best way to and to
contact me in nine seven two five two
five six six five six six zero said you
need to add me to your contact list to
send me your name and where are you from
and that you want to be added to the
list and we will add you and come to
visit next time you're in Israel come to
visit us in the heartland there's
absolutely nothing like the power of
place there's nobody that I've ever
brought to Judea and Samaria who hasn't
said wow this is totally not what I
expected and it suddenly opens their
eyes to what's really going on here it's
amazing once you pass the barriers of
the media and the big lies and people
are in connection you know all
everything it's so simple people are
ever lightining these they see who you
are and they see the place they see what
we are working for and this is seven
things that I walk in the last years to
do because we the last year so we didn't
do enough to connect our brothers and
sisters all over the world and this is
something we need to cry for and to
interact and to connect more and more
people to our truth we see that we see
that the Jews around the world that are
don't feel connected to Israel it's not
a priority for them and that's so sad
because this is theirs as well it's not
just ours we want to share it with
everyone it is it is very very sad and
it's I'm every time I go I am trying to
bring my brothers and sister back back
to the homeland and I hope it will come
in a good way in a sweet way not that
they will be kicked out but they will
want to come and we see that some things
are changing and I hope more and more
things will happen and quicker than we
think
thank you so much that's your um your
phone is buzzing and I know you have a
million people that are trying to get
ahold of you since you give your
whatsapp number to everybody so I really
thank you for carving out space here and
everybody I really recommend that you
sign up and you get these packages every
month it's a surprise from the heart of
the world it's really something else
it's a beautiful thing to do on every
single level and sometimes we do things
and we think we're doing them for
someone else
and we find that the real recipient of
what we did was it was us in the end
because we get back so much more than we
gave so again Matt Sorum thank you so
much
Yves Harrow rejuvenation on the land
official Network thank you too then it's
a Tabitha and everybody else being touch
with me Eve at the Land Bridge all.com
and they take care everybody
have a great week goodbye for now
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