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Rebbi Akiva Eiger's Contradiction Between Tefillin & Tallis: Siman 25 Seif 12; MB DH Special
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okay good morning everyone
we're continuing
yesterday at the end of this year Mandy
asked me a really great question
and I'm actually proud that the
that we're learning it well enough that
somebody could ask a question like this
and there seems to be a certain
inconsistency between
so let's review briefly yesterday what
we learned in civil base
the Macabre said that if you put on fill
in many times a day you have to make a
bracha every time the Mishra said that
is even if when you took it off you had
a mind to put it right back on taking it
off is a half SEC that's a
the Macabre also says if it slips off
its place and you move it back you have
to make another bracha
if you move it out of its place to put
it right back
you have to make another bracha
um
however the ramad brings the game
that if you move it out of its place you
don't have to make another bracha
and that's the
um that's the Min hug
the ram the mission bro explained since
you moved it
to put it right back on
you have to make another bracha as
opposed to if it slips off that slips
off the Bro the Mitzvah is gone that's
why the ramad does not comment on what
the Macabre said when it slips off
now
if you took it off completely to put it
on the Rama would also be lenient even
if you change the locations
however in Mr Bruce
um the mission Brewer brings on the
halacha that if you're fill in slip off
again if you turn slip off even the Ramo
would agree that you have to make
another bracha the mission Brewer
brought the opinion of the shla that
it's not our custom nowadays to make
abrahawanda twill and slip off why
because since it's during davening mrma
your name is and it's like taking it off
to put it back on again
thank you
now
okay
the the Mr Brewer brings the shita of
the shla listen very carefully the shita
is
that even though when it slips off we're
even the Rama's opinion is that you make
a bracha when you put it back but if it
slips off during davening it's like
you're not miss and it's like you took
it off to put it back again
that's what we have by Hillcrest villain
let's see if that's consistent with
this now it happened to be I was
crossing the mission Brewer with
somebody yesterday
and um we happen to be up to there so it
actually worked out for me
um
so in Simon
press
Sif
you're dalid the Macabre says if you
took off your Talus with the mind to put
it back again you have to make another
bracha that's exactly the makabashita by
philan by Phil and the Macabre says if
you take it off to put it on again or if
you move it to put it back you have to
make a bracha that's what the Macabre
holds by by thrilling the Macabre is
very consistent with what he says
you don't make a bracha if you had in
mind to put it back on on again
that drama is consistent with what he
says by Jose yeah
if you had a mind to put it on again
but then the Rama brings an opinion that
we're only lenient when the talus Katan
remains on you and the Rama says that's
what we follow
says the mission bura basically we hold
as follows
um that holds that were only lenient
when you have the tallest cut down
that's if you're dyton bestama that's if
you didn't think anything so then we say
if you have the talus katanan you don't
have to make a bracha when you take off
the talus Gada however if you had in Das
explicitly to put it on again you don't
um have to make another bracha
so it seems then that the Rama is
consistent with what he says
that if you have in mind explicitly to
put it on again then you don't have to
make another bracha likewise
that if you explicitly have in mind to
put it on again you don't have to make
another it's just that if you don't have
anything in mind and you're wearing a
Talus Katan then you also don't have to
make a bracha
what about when the talus falls off
that if your Talus falls off
unintentionally and you put it on you
have to make another bracha
now
I would have said
that if you're based on the shla and
this was Mendy's Kashi yesterday I would
have said based on the shla that if
you're a middle of davening we should
say it's like you took it off to put it
back on the same way the mission of bura
brings by Hillcrest fill in
that if you if you're filling slip off
in the middle of davening you don't have
to make another bracha because it's like
you took it off to put it on again I
would have said by Talus that if you
your towels falls off the middle of the
ovening then you do not have to make a
bracha because it's like you took it off
to put it on again
and yet
we don't find anything of the sort
the macabre
um
says if your house falls off
unintentionally and you put it on again
you gotta make a bracha
the mission Brewer doesn't comment
the Mr Brewer asks I but you know if you
remove a Talus to put on again in why do
you make Abraham here no here at full
fell off Beloit the Mitzvah is gone and
even if the tiles cotton is on it
doesn't help
and the Mr Brewer says pashat
so I think this is Mommy it's a
full-fledged era Why by Hillcrest
villain do we say well if your filling
moves off your place by the way I
apologize for this we'll probably we'll
we'll start today's limit in a second
just I think it's kadai to get this
clear
but why buy Hillcrest Thomas do we say
if your Talus falls off even in the
middle of davening you have to make
another bracha and
when it comes to filling the mishabura
says that if you're still in full off
you don't have to make a bracha
why would villain be more lenient than
Talus
and I see the dirt shoe just points out
that by the way you should know by
doesn't say that there's a difference
whether you're middle of the Avenue or
not
and
just
okay you want to say what
I mean uh
I would have thought
I would not have necessarily uh thought
that right
um
foreign
so I believe I found yesterday
I think this is Rubik Vegas Kasha
we have Kevin Simmons
um
in on Sith
foreign
you put it on again you have to make
another bracha
um the Muggin of rum comments
um
foreign
so I think it seems like
I don't know why the mission of Brewer
did not mention this
because it seems like rubikivago would
say you know what why should Phil Talus
be any different than filling and
um
by Phil and also I think it's not
posture that if you're feeling if your
Talus falls off you're gonna make
another bracha
okay so that's what I have for you on
yesterday's learning
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