Rebbi Akiva Eiger's Amazing Ruling If One Blows Shofar on Shabbos

this torah class is brought to you by torahanytime.com again of yamcha if i guitar to everyone this interesting uh hakira that we could investigate the mission of says rosh hashanah they would blow and not outside of the basement and the gemara is discussing is it that we don't blow midday right so is that we don't blow their abundance ultimately the gemara says really there's a mitzvah day raisa to blow the shaipha and it's permitted to blow the shaffer and there are bannon where the ones who are gays are not to blow the shoi for like rabbah said because rabbi said everyone is kaivens kiyashoifer but not everybody knows how to blow and there's the gezero shema it's lena biyadov so there's xero draw button on that you might come to carry the shofar dalet amos in the rasha sarabin so there's a very interesting khakira and the kakira is when the rabbanaan said don't blow the shaipha did they say don't blow the shoifer and therefore or oyker the mitzvah completely and if you go ahead and you blow the shuffle you're not making the mitzvah or maybe they just exempt you from the mitzvah mitzvah but if you violated the avira and you blew the shaffer you're making the mitsubishi rise of the ashaifa in other words when the ham said don't do the mitzvah do they say don't do it and if you did it you're not making anything or do they say don't do it and you don't have to do it but if you do it you're making a mitzvah an interesting nafkamina would be what's brought in the chuva of sri pesa frank in our that according to the post game that hold that on the second day of rosh hashanah you don't make a shakhiano antikya because you already made a shakiano on the first day and it's that opinion would hold that if the first day of rosh hashanah is shabbos you certainly do make a shakhiano on the second day so according to that cheetah let's say on the first day you decided you're going to ignore the takanas and you're going to blow the shauper and you're going to make a bracha and you're going to make a shakhianu do you make a shakhiano on the second day again if you say the ham were okay in the midfield gamrey and there was no kim it's on the first day and then the shakianu was ibrahillah so then certainly you would have to make another shakhiano on the second day however we could be um according to the other assad that the rabbana were not awkward in the midst so they just told you don't do it but if you did it you're making so if you made a shakhyanu on the first day it was effective you would not have to make a shakhyanu on the second day so this is a kakira that is addressed in the safeway bishvile hasimha of simcha liberman rap simcha boonim lieberman and this is a set of swarm that we've quoted from in the past and this is actually a shiloh that is discussed as we'll see by rubiki vahgar and it's discussed by rabbi khan on but let's begin in this way it would seem that this would be mahalikis says in the evening everyone should lean when they say shema and in the morning they should stand up like the pasta says kumar and basilo says no you read krishnamak so the question is what if you follow bashamah's opinion we don't follow we don't ask and like be shy am i so rabbi haskell says also because similarly we find that someone whose head and most of his body was in the sukkah and his table was in the house besham said we know the whole story the ham did that and the zika basham i didn't say anything and basham says not true they said to him if you did that you're not making the mitzvah at all and taisu says according to rabbi yosef that if you follow basham and you lean when you say shema you didn't accomplish anything that is you're not making the mitzvah even midday right so like the gemara cites the example where the zika nebesharma said today's hillel if you acted this way you are not mekaim yamaha likewise you are not mikayam krishma so it would come out that this is a major guess between ravioli says when the rabbis say don't do something if you do it the way the rabbi said not to do it they were okay the mitzvah and rabia and rabbi says excuse me they were not awkward in the mitzvah and rabbi yosef says they were oyker the mitzvah so certainly by takiyah for or in the tilla the rabbi said you're not that not to be mekaim the mitzvah in the first place not only don't do it this way but don't do the mitzvah if you did the mitzvah you would not be you'd say however the iran argues on isis and iran and the ritual say that when the zika bashambe said to base hillal in kenho because it was a kosher sukkah it just means since we're worried you may get you may get drawn into the house you but certainly it's not ma'a cave however so it would come out that according to tois this if you blew the shoi fire on rosh hashanah that comes out on shabbos and according to the ran perhaps you would be you'd say however rabiq the iger comes and says that even according to shita satosis that in general if you don't do the mitzvot the way the rabbi said loya si shabbos kayem shaifah rabbi ki vegas says you are mckinnon so by the way in the in the shear that we gave about the controversy in jerusalem however kevin joseph schlesinger wanted to reinstate the shofar he was clearly working with rubik's vegeta because he said even if there isn't avira it's only on the balto ikea and everybody else would be i'd say so it's kadai for him to violate the avira to he might see everyone else clearly this is going with the tsad that you're making the mitzvah but now the question we have to ask addresses lieberman why would kia shoifer be different why would it be that when it comes to other mitzvahs taisus says if you don't say shema like basil if you don't sit in the sukkah properly la yati de chavas and when it comes to shayfar if you carry the shayfer and then if you excuse me blow the shofar you would be mikayim the mitzvah so rav liberman offers five between the scenario of shaifar and the midsos of krishna and since the rabbis said don't blow at all and there's no way to be in the kind of the mitzvah it was not nica to be oyker the mitzvah of gammari because then just uproot amidst her completely as much as they would like to diminish uprooting the mitsuha they certainly endeavor to by krishama they said if you lean you're not you're to the mitzvah but they're not being okay in the mitzvah you could be making the mitzvah sitting up properly they were not okay in the midst of the gamrey but in this case since they were they said not to blow on shabbos if they said it in a way where they'd be okay in the midst of their oyka they missed entirely they didn't want to do such a thing but by sukkah or krishna where they're just telling you how to do it so if you do it the wrong way they could be oikari and that offense since there are still other ifanim with which to be in a kind of mitzvah number two you could say as follows really in general mitzvah they're oika the mitsulogami but not in this case because in this case they we know that said blow the shauper and the mikdash blow the shafter where there's the besden so how would it look if they were oiker the mitzvah lagamri and yet there are scenarios where you're going to blow the schaefer so it looks a little bit looks like a joke so therefore they said don't do it if you did it it has to be your makayam because otherwise how could it be sometimes you do blow sometimes you don't blow as opposed to by shema whenever you lean you're not you'd say whenever it's roisha beruba sukkah another interesting idea is he quotes the mishnas this is brought in the goyone of rabbis bengal that the zero of swishes is a gezera kaduma it's xero that was already decreed in the times of maisha albino that being the case since it's such a strong gaze did not have to bolster their shita by by and strengthen it by saying if you do it you're not making the mitzvah but other dramas namely leaning when you say shema or roshvaruba sukhov these are later gazers they had to bolster it by sing and if you do it that way a fourth khilak says the gizera of shama yavi reno is a very general xera it applies by many midsoles it applies by lulav it applies by megillah but it applies by other dairisas and since it applies to other dharaisas and it's an overarching gazera that didn't want to then go ahead and be okay so many mitzvahs if it's a specific limited gazera so under those circumstances exercise their power of being torah but if it's an overarching issue did not want to exercise such power another very beautiful khalak is as follows when did say that if you don't listen to our legislation you're not you it's in the mitzvah that's if the violation of the rabono is incurred at the time of the observance of the mitzvah you're leaning while you say shema you are sitting in the sukkah you're not violating the rabban and when you're blowing the shepherd we say don't blow the shofar because lest you come to carry either before or after so since it's not simultaneous to the observance of the mitzvah under those circumstances so this would explain how even by shaiphar number one says rab lieberman when it comes to uh uh if they're they would be uprooting the mitzvah completely mashing came by krishnaman sukkah you could all you could be making it in other iphones number two is different because since anyway you're blowing it in beds then it will look like a joke if you uh are oaker at legami number three it's an early gezera and does not need number four it's an overarching gazera and it would apply to many midsoles and they didn't want to do so for many missiles and finally number five that they were only okay the mitzvah if the violation of the drabanim was a time of the observance of the missile and not at some other time okay marvel avoisae so this is the sheets of ruby the egr that if a person did blow the sheifer on chavez in fact and even so where makvid not to build the shoe fire wishing everyone a good bench to your 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