Reb Chaim Ozer's Answer To Rebbi Akiva Eiger's Tzaruch Iyun Gadol

Okay, good [clears throat] morning, friends. Always start a little later today. There was had a sheer in the community. Okay, so today we're going to focus on the question of Rabbi Akiva Eiger on daf ayin tes amud aleph. The question of Rabbi Akiva Eiger on the Ran. The Gemara said, ki ain b'libo l'kayem, if you're m'kayem in your heart, it's upheld, says the Ran. Where does the Gemara get this from? Says the Gemara, says the Ran v'neir'eh b'einai, on the third line, d'afina l'am sh'tika d'eim sh'ma'i, we learn out kiyum works from silence. We learn out kiyum works in your heart from silence on the day that you heard it. She'e im m'kayemes, that it affirms an neder. The ta'am am ay, what's the reason? Mishum d'kivan sh'avar yom sh'mi'ah, if the whole day of hearing it passes, d'einan al yad galei da'ite, you're revealing sh'ureitzah b'kiyum ha'neder, that you want the neder. But you didn't actually affirm it, you just show you want it. Alma, koshah b'libo l'kayemai, sagi, we see, if it's in your heart to affirm it, it's affirmed. That's enough. Ella d'yavli Rachmana, kol hahu yom l'hafarah, the Torah gives that whole day to annul it. Mishum d'ad, d'arba shimsha, because until lo muchach miday sh'ureitzah l'kayem, it doesn't demonstrate that you want to affirm it, d'dima b'asar hafi m'fulah, because you could always annul it. So, silence does not show you want to affirm it, cuz you still retain the ability to annul it. Kivan d'basar da'ite b'chol ha'zman, cuz we're only following your da'as. So, the halacha is if you're silent on the day that you hear it, it's affirmed. U'mina, um, From here we can infer the kosher kayam believe I kayam the altar that anyone who's mikayam it in his heart, it's immediately affirmed. The have like you over Yom Sh'miya. It's as if the whole day of listening passed. Okay. So the round is saying we learn out key and believe I kayam from Sh'miya from shtika beyond shamay. We learn out that if you mikayam in your heart, it is effective from the case of shtika the I'm shamay. So look in the Gilyon Hashas. Gilyon Hashas asks the following question. Kashali the second Gilyon Hashas Hakaimolan don't we hold the after d'varim sh'b'leiv lo yehei d'varim? Words of the heart are not words. V'chol makom heicha d'muchach where it's clear d'galui l'chol and revealed to everyone have a d'varim. Even though d'varim sh'b'leiv lo yehei lo yehei d'varim, where it's muchach v'galui have a d'varim k'hei d'M'vrachas like the case of M'vrachas of K'dayma. Im kein ma raya d'v'shas sak kol Yom Sh'miya? What's the raya from being silent on the day of listening d'anu danin that we're evaluating d'muchach sh'roitzah b'kiyumai that it's clear that he wants to affirm it b'kiyuma sh'nedar v'galui lanu kavanosai. And it's revealed to us what is kavanos mishum machi have a kiyum. Says the round, we hold even though d'varim sh'b'leiv lo yehei d'varim, but if it's muchach v'galui have a d'varim. So how can you bring a right from the bottom? I might We're saying that it's your right to be human and it's going to be right. Therefore, it's a key of a key of a believer going to call you. Affirms in his heart where it's not clear to everyone how the line money that got all. I don't think we got this is not a it's a god all. How in the world can you prove from the bottom? Normally, the default is the bottom unless it's the bottom. So, we're saying that by It's the bottom, it's the bottom, but it's not the bottom if you're came to be by. >> [clears throat] >> So, the other uh tries to answer this question. Let me see if I could pull it up here on the screen. There you go. The other of the other of the other of the other of the other of the other of the the other of the other of the the other of the other of the other of the other of the other of the Let's see if I could get it up here. Basically, in a nutshell, what the [clears throat] other says is like this. He says the other of the other of the other of the >> [clears throat] >> the other of the other of the other of the other of the other of The other of the other of the other of the other of the that I'm not known. That it's not true the other of the other of the other of the other of the That's only when what's in your heart contradicts what you say. But if there's no contradiction between your heart and your mouth, the arm shall believe have a charm. It's not true. The premise is not true. We hold the arm shall believe have a charm. It's only when it contradicts what's in what what you actually say, we say we have a charm. So you'll say, "Okay, then in that case, then why do I need a proof that key and believe I is effective? Why would it not be effective? There's nothing that you said that contradicts it." But the the Acharya says the rule of arm shall believe I have a charm is not even applicable over here with the cloud because there's nothing that you said that contradicts what you're thinking. So then why does the run even have to prove it should work? Says Acharya, "Because by the Dharma we don't know we don't have a rule of Dharma shall believe um by the Dharma Dharma shall believe we don't have a Dharma even if it doesn't contradict what you say. Why? Because there's a dinner of Lavate Bisfas of. You need to annunciate it. In general in shots, Dharma shall believe we don't have a Dharma when there's a contradiction. By the Dharma even when there's no contradiction Dharma shall believe we don't have a Dharma. Why? Because it says Lavate Bisfas I. So you'll say, "Okay, so then we're back to the starting point. Then how do you bring a Raya from If you need Lavate Bisfas I mean it only works by Shika Biam Shama because it's Muka, it's not Muka over here." No, that's not why it works by Hakama. The reason why it works by Hakama is not because it's Muka. It works by Hakama because we don't learn that Hakama from from making the nether. Why? Only to make the nether you need Lavate Bisfas I but not to affirm the nether that you don't need this for saying. The run is proving from from Sh'tika Shamai not that should believe like this He's proving the din of this for saying does not extend to come out. The proof is that if it extend that come out, it wouldn't work. It wouldn't work for Sh'tika Shamai cuz even though it's but it's still not this for saying. So says the the have a mean of the is that believe should not help because by nether you need this for saying. So you would think for how come out you also need this for saying. Come out the guy come out you don't need this for saying. Therefore how come out works when you're Sh'tika Shamai and by extension it also works if you're believe by. That's the gist of how the learns it. Let's see if we could see it inside a little bit. Says the other He says the other this was going to be the other I ain't test who says the can't believe by the other Sh'tika Shamai the time of I give it to the other guy wrote to be the other there if you're silent behind Shamai that shows you want the other We see that if it's in your heart alone it's enough. From there we could derive the I got the other and in such a case the other is not the other after she is the other even in the situation where there's a high to the nether. Even though by half hour it would not be move on. Even when there's a half hour. Because the run the key and believe I wish to give him some money. Fine. So the other guy says he called me back the water of the end. The run is a key on. That's what he gave us cash. So how does he want to answer the other guy called the run? On the mission a hey. A hey raise a nazi. Where you said a hey nazi. The other guy called the nazi. I'm sorry. If I say somebody says a hey I'm going to be. So the other guy says you're a nazi. What? The other guy says I'm going to be maybe he meant I'm going to be a marshmallow. Where do we get that he's going to be a nazi? The other guy called the nazi. The other guy called the nazi is talking about a nazi was passing in front of him. The other guy called the other guy. Says. The other guy says the other guy called the other guy the nazi in front of him. The other guy called the other guy. The other guy called the other guy. She said the Torah. So the Rajma asked the height it's not clear to me to come up with something that he has to come out cuz actually awesome. The casually need don't meet Shuma. Why don't we learn out from Shuma the Kamaya didn't I tell us the Machshava? I'll grab Shuma and have it warm. And don't say the lack of the Shani has the Rebbe meet the casa of the next Shavla Kamash come. Then came I see the Mishpat me Machriv I say. The Rajma wants to know why don't we learn out from Shuma where our Shuma believe I does work. So question number one is just because the Nazir is passing in front of you why is that effective? Isn't there a possibility I hate the tightness? And what about Shuma? Why can't Shuma be a paradigm that from Shuma I have a warm? So the Rajma says as follows. Hello the way that I can follow the warm Shuma leave. We don't care about the warm Shuma leave here. You know what the warm Shuma leave I have a warm means? That what you think is not effective to be what you say. I will call Shuma the warm Shuma leave I ain't no more if it's not uprooting what you said. I'll make you not believe what you make Shuma where you don't see the opposite have a Shuma. So Okay, that's the Rashba. The Rashba basically sets out a principle that the Varum Sh'balev is only L'havadvarim K'neged Dibur. Now, the Achiezer says, if that's the case, why do you need Nazer Oved Lifanav? >> [snorts] >> Why you said a "Hey" and you did nothing to indicate you don't mean a Nazer, so why do you need Nazer Oved Lifanav? Venearly, all right, so he says, he says, "V'dibe Harashba Nifla'im Demkein Tiksha Lamali Nazer Oved Lifanav K'vein D'vei Chiyya Agav L'havadvarim Sh'balev." Venearly Ashiv Shitas Harashba, the S'vara Lei that Nedarim is different. Nedarim, you need to be Yotzei B'svavsav. So, by Nedarim, it is it's not a problem of D'varim Sh'balev regarding it's contradicting what you're saying, but you still need a Din of Motzei B'svavsav. And to that, if you have an Umdena D'muchach, it's good enough. So, says our Reb Chaim Ozer, that means in general that means there are two things we need to navigate in the world of D'varim Sh'balev L'havadvarim. We need to navigate it can't contradict what you say, which does not apply by Hakama, and there's a Din of Yotzei B'svavsav, which also doesn't apply by Hakama, but you would have thought that it does apply by Hakama. You would have thought Yotzei B'svavsav does apply by Hakama. So, uh he says, Well, if he's that the key of look where my icon is. One second. If he's that the key One second. If he's that the key of about When the battle affirms the nether, there's a mark on to say that just like on a hollow nether, you need to annunciate. Maybe if the battle's going to affirm it, just like the at some nether needs annunciation, well, maybe upholding it needs annunciation. You don't need annunciation. You know how you being in the battle with the society then even I'm doing that the mocha will not help. That's what the run is proving from a shush behind shush my you see if the issue that we were trying to navigate was the bottom shall be labeled I have a bottom that you can't prove from shush behind shush my cuz there it's mocha what you're thinking. But that's not the issue we're trying to navigate cuz there's no dinner of um there's no dinner of the bottom shall be labeled I have a bottom cuz it doesn't contradict what you're saying. Well, we're trying to navigate is do you need to annunciate affirmation? I mean there there always two things that have to be considered when you're dealing with the arm shovel lathe. Is it contradicting what you're saying? And number two, do you need to annunciate it? The din of annunciation is not needed by uh kiam. You know what the proof is? The proof is shtika b'iam shamay. If you needed to annunciate affirmation, then shtika b'iam shamay would not be effective. So, the run is proving from shtika b'iam shamay you don't need to annunciate the uh affirmation. My question is if there is a um din of the mukha by shtika b'iam shamay, maybe you do need annunciation. And haikha um and the haikha is considered annunciation. Just like we say by nazira if you say ahey you're a nazir but the nazir I'm the I'm a um I'm a fun of. Bottom line is R' Akiva's answer to R' Akiva's kasha is that the run is not proving d'varim sh'b'lev l'haved v'ram is not an issue from uh by hakama because it was never an issue by hakama. Because you're not contradicting what you're saying. The only issue is do you need a din Is there a din of lavate b'sfasayim? So, that he's proving from from shtika b'iam shamay that there's no din of lavate b'sfasayim because if there was, the haikha would not do the job. >> [clears throat] >> Okay, friends? That's the That's the idea. Have a great day. Baruch Hashem. Good to everyone. Recording off.