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Rav Lopiansky is liberalism Judaism The Project Inspire Convention 2021
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i don't know if it's to say we gathered
here
and this year's unique um
a lot of uh yeah to the people that
organized this
it was very challenging and hopefully
we'll get our inspiration
even from this kind of
very very unusual type of getting
together
i'm going to speak about somewhat of an
unusual topic
i guess it's um it's something that's
relevant because of
the heavy political atmosphere but
i want to speak about it from a unique
political point of view
uh sorry from a torah point of view um
the elections
the events have been very very
polarizing
and everyone has chosen sides
right left conservative liberal a
democrat republican
none of that is torah
there are things that are compatible
there are things that
are important to us we have to make
decisions
but we have our own cheetah our
our own approaches in some areas
they might have seen the light in some
areas not
and therefore i would like to speak
specifically
about some of the areas
where actually the quote-unquote
so-called left
might actually be closer to arashkoffer
and i want to make it clear again i
endorse no party because i think no
party
and nobody out there is a torah person
but some of the ideas i think
are important to emphasize thorough
ideas even if they belong to the
right or wrong party i'm going to pick
three things three points especially
one point the idea
of government regulation
right or wrong um the
so-called right believes the government
should stay out of people's
um here they should regulate as little
or not at all depending on where you are
on the spectrum
and the so-called left believes more and
more government regulations
is there a torah perspective in that two
people who don't have money
um what is
the responsibility of society to them
do we have responsibility um should the
government be involved in it
three when we're dealing with different
bad needles different alveros
which are the worst
there are many many immoralities that
the torah
really really um in very very
strong terms denounces and
and tells us what the punishment is so
what they ask ourselves
what is the worst of them all what is it
once again it's difficult to translate
these
ideas because is a u.s government
similar to a jewish government
in claudius world but edem
i'm not making um an easy
cut and paste i am we're going to go
through some torah ideas
and it will give us some perspective
on what things ought to look like
whether this
is what the us government ought to do
whether they're capable of doing it
whether the best vehicle for doing it
that's the asu local
orthodox politician i can only give you
somewhat of
of a torah approach first thing
government regulation
is there a point to it is it right is
appropriate
i am going to be quoting from the rambam
and hilda's merceria
perique dalit the rambam as you all
probably know
does not really say anything of his own
this
is a simply laid out
um extremely logical presentation
of what is the bottom line sack in the
gemara
so the rambam says he starts apparently
dalit
and he says it is true that you cannot
fool people as far as the prices
of items goes uh you cannot sell
something that's worth ten dollars for
twenty dollars
um that's that actually cancels the sale
so but if you notify and you tell a
person
i am a boutique shop a chocolate bar
that you can get for
50 cents at your local cvs
is going to cost 8.93
because i smile sweetly at you and i
don't call it chocolate i call it
something else
that's perfectly legitimate as long as
it's clear
that i'm charging a price beyond
what you could be gotten for that's not
cheating and that's
perfectly acceptable i can charge any
price
that i would like so long as you're
aware that this may
be far from the best price you can get
that sounds quite liberal and open
avo bezn
has to get enforcement
they have to get they have to create
a price list and
guards to make sure they are called
that people not um
make a profit as they wish um
and there's a certain norm it's in the
in the in though in those as
15 percent above and beyond expense
obviously
however the med verma muram with
things that are absolutely necessities
yay knows wine in those days was
necessity
saltos oil flour and so on but
other items larger items krishna navona
you can do as as much as you want so
the first thing is regulation
is mandated on
items that are necessary so
the government does need to make sure
that items are not priced out of the
range
of affordability but
they also need to make sure that that's
only
in items that is necessary we don't have
to make
everything affordable to everybody and
there's no reason for it
so yes that people have necessities
regulations are in place and obviously
you can't force people to charge
less and not make a profit but a modest
profit
is a maximum you can make on items
that are necessary
next um you cannot hoard
things that are necessities uh as
if if somebody has a monopoly and he
hoards
all the oil or flour and then
the price goes through a roof because of
hoarding
you can and should make laws
and have to make laws to stop hoarding
and actually one of the brothers judas
is a curse
for people who hoard um if
props and thereby raise the prices so
the idea of an
artificially inflated price meaning
there is enough to go around
but one person is keeping unlocking key
so that the price goes up
that is absolutely prohibited
and it should be enforced next
he's and once again we make a
distinction
between necessities and luxuries
one
um the city people the people in the
city
can make a price list for
anything
and create a system of punishments they
are entitled
so you have a cahilla and they decide
that
this has to be the price and somebody um
if somebody veers from it they can
punish him
um he says
lives
work in a way that they that they give
each person a fair share
so on mondays you have to hire this
person on tuesdays this person
on wednesday is this person they can do
that and
they can enforce those rules and
even penalizing heavy monetary penalties
so the first thing we see
is the power of regulation
on a communal level exists when there
was a monarchy in israel
his power was absolute um
in on a communal level obviously we have
not nowhere near
the type of power monarch had but
we have the power and the right to
create regulations
one to regulate um the
work so that there's a fair distribution
that people don't have to work six days
a week that by alternating
we're able to give people a day off
they're
they're able to regulate unfair
competition
they are mandated to regulate
goods in a way that people have
basic necessities at affordable prices
and they also can enact regulation
that there's no artificial um
uh pumping up of prices by somebody
simply holding everything
which is in a sense what a monopoly does
and why a monopoly creates a danger
to a free economy so in the area of
economic regulation
there are very clear categories of
regulation
that are appropriated appropriate and
mandated
that's one what is the responsibility
of a community to people
that don't have money
now everybody feels charity is wonderful
but it's personal every person has a
personal mitzvah to get stuck up
so no one disagrees with that but does
the community
as a community have that let's take the
rambam
in the ninth
chapter
yes
must have appointed official fatstaka
anosha miyadu and venema people
that are recognized as being honest
they go around once a week and collect
um from them money for it
and this how much you need to give to
each per person
you need to give him a week's worth of
food
and then he says there's also a daily
collection
gimmel drama says
we've never heard or seen a jewish
community that did not have
a stalker fund
every single community has a soccer fund
and
this actually can uh
this is something that you could enforce
you can
stalker is one of the things you can
force people to give stalker
now the rama is also points out
in very very powerful terms
the shortcomings of community that's
very from
but not giving with tineos
meghal comes on the slantium on the
first day you give
food to poor people so that they can eat
before they can eat afterwards
the whole tiny
a fair stay where everybody ate
and went to sleep without giving stalker
to poor people
hare eloquence they
are murderers
it used to be a place of justice and now
it's murderous
and he goes on to explain how it's
collected
so the obligation of the community
to feed um the people that are poor
exists if we ask ourselves
um does a community a society
have an obligation to feed its body the
answer is yes
now technically does this apply
to a non-jew in other words a non-jewish
community
do they have an obligation i don't know
but it's certainly when we speak of
torah values
it is a torah value that we take care
of people that don't have what to eat
now uh you arguments can be made
that a a jewish community is a
wonderfully efficient instrument
um the u.s government is not an official
again
ask your local orthodox politician but
if we're talking
about um perspective
what is the obligation of society
two individuals that don't have the
answers absolute
and the way the rama says we've never
heard of a jewish community
that doesn't have that stucco that's
at our the perspective of obligation of
society
towards individual in terms of having a
meal and so on
one more point which incorporates this
and then gives us
a sweeping perspective on
relative merits and values of
what makes a society rise and full
sedom is probably considered
the ultimate evil society amalek
is the ultimate evil nation
um of the of the of the three um let's
call it societies
or mega societies that suffer doom
we have the marble
that was the flood we have the dorha
which was the generation that fell apart
and to
the tower of babel and we have
the stone um anyone familiar
with the various um
mad russian the the the
in in in in the prophets that want to
give
a paradigm of an evil society
kistoma stone
is it stone is the worst a society can
be
and it was obliterated with total
incineration if
if it's hard to pick but if we ask
ourselves
what is the worst of the worst in stuff
we have many hazal the past the sukim
themselves
speak of terrible moral depravity the
the word sodomy comes from the word
stone
because the so can speak about that and
and terrible tortures inflicted
many many many bad things um it's
it's um it was a a society that was
thoroughly bad and evil but what
was the point that triggered that
destruction
so we're going to learn
one of the most arabic early
commentaries on hamish
i would say second only to the ramban
and evanescer the ravenna is
um one of the fundamental pirushim
on torah and this is
by stone he says
um
call me this ross they had everything
bad
and he brings the ghazal about all the
various
it says ansha stomach
it says um there was
birkas hashem they cursed god
it says they spilled blood
um and so on so there was no lack
of bad or evil that the people of stone
did aval the raven mahaya says
nigmar dinam why
what was the final what they call in
hebrew the macabre patis
that the final bed
that sealed the doom what was that
show your moassim is at staka they
despised
giving stakka
m and they did not
care about the poor people um
and their fellow countrymen that were
that that though they were they were
hungry they were poor
says it's not the bad they did
it's the fact that they had a lack
of any type of feeling and sentiment
towards poor people there's somebody
in our neighborhood who's um very very
involved stuck he's a wonderful
wonderful person he was told over the
following story
his mother wished to be in charge of the
march of dimes
a chapter they're at the local march of
dimes chapter
and um part of that was to go around
collect
from people and money um
now the you know march of dimes used to
help children with cerebral palsy
because of it was kind of when i was
growing up that was
the charity a charity you know um
and he would knock on people's doors and
get through excuses people gave you
ready and so on
typical that's fine one person answered
doing and
he explained to him what he's collecting
for he says oh it's charity he says
i don't do charity i said no it's
legitimate and and
and they said no i i know it's
legitimate i have no problems with it
i just don't do charity and this fellow
said
he didn't he did not respond to it as a
jew he grew up with the idea that
you do charity so fine we all find
little rationalizations help to
you know lighten the burden but the idea
of charity is axiomatic to us
and this person grew up without it so he
says
that stalker they were they despised
charity you know we're self-made people
and if you can't make it yourself
tough luck
they did not care about the poor people
or fellow countrymen
who were laying starving and then he
says
and because this was constant
it wasn't a deviation once or twice
this is who they were the cache
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was the reason why they were obliterated
from the face of the earth
and he says
there's not a nation in the world that
people aren't charitable each other
for anxious
the people in stone despised charity
and were hard-hearted to the ultimate
the alpha appreciated there was no torah
given no prophet psalm they gave it
there was no uh where was the messenger
of god the prophet told him to do it
he says
stucco is a mitzvah that should be
axiomatic it should be something that
the human mind
should accept as a given the dove
two of who it is a disgusting thing
shayra adam is that a person can look
around and see a fellow human being
starving us
and he's wealthy and he has plenty and
his stomach is full
venom watches and there's no mercy in
his part
no sentiment to try to help this person
al
has come the comma
certainly is a fellow countryman
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that's why hashem destroyed the people's
stone
who who who stopped charity the locker
nickname and he took
revenge on behalf of the poor people so
rabbi
says the fact that they were
cursed god atheist of some sort
terrible not the reason to be destroyed
total
the fact that they were depraved and did
some of the worst arias
terrible not a reason to obliterate
not even killing people people kill
people
passionate it was that but the lack
of any type of rachman
the lack of compassion means that
you're just not wide like a human being
you're missing something
so compassion the idea that society
needs to care for the people that are
starving
sick hungry is
the most fundamental media that a human
society
is exists on and without that it does
not
justify its existence
once again what's the best way to do it
how to do it
i i not that's not what we're talking
about
but the idea that we are responsible and
that's universal it's not only jewish
this is universal
that a society is responsible for the
hungry
for the sick for the wretched
whether it's their fault not their fault
we have a responsibility and we can't
shake it off
that is the the the the the the
rabbinbachalia
so let's just review the points and
again i'm making these points
so that we understand what our
perspective is
how to implement it who are the best
people to implement it
and so on that's not the area that that
i'm
into but let's never lose
our true torah schofa one society
has responsibilities towards the
individual
one responsibility is that to regulate
and to govern
prices in a way that
allows people to live
and it does it it's it's not everybody
needs to have everything
there's a clear distinction between the
luxuries that
you know that that that if i got blessed
with it that's fine
and basic needs that people should be
able to afford
at a reasonable price a society is
allowed to and
mandated to regulate it
two we put in regulations for
a good working society so that people
um who are working weaken through
regulation
allow people to have their days of work
and and so on those are all positive
next we have an obligation
to set up a communal sucker it's not
people's personal good will it's also
that
but every society every every
is required to have it stuck a fund that
has the power actually
to collect money whether the person
wants to or not covenant suckers
and the rambam says it is unheard of in
claudius
that we had a community that communally
did not
care they did not create stucco and
finally we have the incredible words of
verbatim
there are many terrible availas and are
various
carry punishments but all of varus
i can look at the person as being a
human being who's
wrong who's made a mistake who's gone
off who's doing something terrible who
has a flaw
but the only aveda that i could say
the person is not a human being he's
missing
a core value that makes him human is
compassion
and a society like stone that did not
have the feeling of compassion
towards the poor and and and and and the
starving
does not merit to exist they are not
humans
and they cannot exist society
construction help
that speedily we recreate our society
claudia's soul society with
our king mashiach and our
legislature the sanhedrin and
we run a society that's built on
principles
of stukka and mishpot
likes is the intertwining
where where society is a society of law
and order and compassion and care
and that a society of always stukka
mishpot
will be an orla and illuminate the
world entirely
thank you