Rav Gavriel Cohen Interview with Peretz Eichler

hi everybody this is Paris for a career in front and center talk we have the privilege today of talking with rabbi gavriel cone he is the rush off based in from the west coast of binnacle court which is now trans trans going trans coastal and is now becoming also the east coast with pinnacle court course rabbi Cohen died in cone has adjudicated cases here in New York for many years but now it's becoming a larger and broader scope based in so i would like to introduce rabbi cohen and ask him first of all what is it that a base then actually does that we should be aware of the perhaps one on aware of and what the services that the East Coast based in will be providing we do we do answer to any problem that come under comes up and anybody that has any we do a lot of song buys cases we advise people we counsel people and we try to find the exact problem that they the people have and we try to solve it that's number one number two if if God forbid to come to a point of divorce then we we make sure that they finish the civil civil commitments and settlements and so on that's when we get in to to litigate we facilitate the gate to get which means to say that after everything is done civilly between themselves we take care of the get from A to Z and make it easy for the people so that it should be amicable and it should be all so friendly so there is a role at the base of place and actually the amicability of again normally friendliness and I with the bill is not leave the words that people think of when it comes to that but that's something that the base then actually can facilitate we try to make it as as easy and as comfortable as possible and we explain it before we start so that they understand the whole procedure and it's not is degrading like many people think that it's not a nice way not a nice ceremony but it's a actual strictly religious and strictly power of settlement we would like also to let people know that we deal with a lot of questions that we answer any question that they have and we try anyway and we take care of other other departments of based in all the departments of based in a ton done here you could have an arbitration with one Rob they can have an arbitration with 30 bottom usually we try to facilitate the arbitration before the UN it comes to a problem this is talking again about marriage were about financial or business financial settlements financial settlement many times people have problems with each other we try to make sure we try to make it that they settled between themselves even before they get to a point of it based in we don't want them to come to a base and we want them to settle and talk things over and try to settle between themselves and try to come to an agreement of course if it's a case that someone absolutely does you know is trying to win a case and even though he was 100% wrong and so then of course he's going to need a full based in but otherwise we try to facilitate a settlement between themselves the whole idea rubicon of going to a based in an arbitration is that something that halacha CLE is required prior going to arco is going to a secular chord and an a and in addition to the halacha Creason what would be some of the other benefits that a member of the the zebra of any Jewish community whether religious or not would accrue by going to based in like this I Baisden is the first place that a person must go to to show importance to that locker that it says in part is important and also to show the respect to our Torah when a person goes to our course to secular based in secular court it is degrading our torah and sims and sm stora but of course if it's impossible to settle at the base then then there's not a choice they get a hatter to go to our course which is secular basement and the good part of a based in arbitration is that first of all they're on go into a tremendous costs that there is that there is in a secular court and also we do it in a way that we explain it logically who is wrong so that they understand that if he's at fault that he should abide by my decision and it's over in fact many times we had cases that came to us they were able to settle before they even came to the basin because once I once with the center has Mona to the other side to come and answer the sphere of the person they saw how we are we explained that he's wrong to that person before you even came to the Baisden so they settled within a day the check was sent within a day to show you that many times when P old people needs to be explained to where they went wrong and once they explained to him when they wasn't to have the explanation they don't need to go to based in anymore and that's what we try to date can you think of any other examples where a person might not be sure that you go to a based in or not and we're going to the basin either in the arbitration stage as you just said now or actually as a as a den Tyler where both parties realize the the benefit of going and why person should understand the absolute not only Calaca necessity but the true benefit of going to a based in like the East Coast based in which was going which is being established here now well the like I just said many times people understand what they're asking for is wrong from the beginning all they have to do is be to be explained to once they understand where they weren't wrong then there's no case anymore the case is dissolved by itself and the good part of coming to a Baisden you only getting a holic settlement you're not getting an opinion of some judge where he had decided you know this is the way it should be you're getting you're getting it from the show Honora from the place come from there it's forum that it says it's not the diane that's telling you what to do it's this forum regulation that are telling you what to do in fact we in los angeles we even had a case where it goes a lawyer insisted to go to Baisden instead of going to court why was that because he's hidden he said he said why because a divine a divine decision will override any kind of secular court and that's what he wants to have in this case and that's what we did he says the case that lasted for so many months in his office we came to us within three hours he was out with a very happy settlement you mean like some people say the difference when a good lawyer in a bad lawyer is that a bad lawyer can make a case go on for months but a good lawyer can make the going a lot longer but that doesn't apply by a bit by based in your eye objective is to get it done expeditiously and effective and effectively with a settlement that everybody will be satisfied with a exactly and we find it very well and like I said we win when we when we settled that case within three hours he was he was so surprised it's impossible to believe that this case it lasted so many months it was was taken care of within within a few hours and the person walked out from our office of the stack of business cards he says I will recommend any person not only a Jewish person all my friends will tell you people of course I Basin does not adjudicated on Jewish cases you happen to have this was a non-jewish advocate an attorney as a word but in terms of the litigants themselves those can only be members of but they can only be Jewish litigants is that correct oh one of them was it was a guy and he insisted on coming to the basden one at one of the sides one of the sides what are the lawyers one of the sides it was a-goin he insisted that it should be settled in the base did is that a finish in halacha but one of the litigants does have to be Jewish is that correct both of the base-10 can actually adjudicate a non-jew non-jewish case that's really remarkable it's obviously the exception to the rule the primary function of the basin's we understand it is that it should be a vehicle to arbitrate cases between Jews and Jewesses is that correct yes could you just sum up for us again so what the the real purpose of the west coast with little court now be it's going to be call the East Coast based in and how people can access it and where they should be they can contact you for questions or inquiries or to actually file litigation or arbitration you just give us that information the best place to contact me is at at our website it's Beth hyphen di n naught 0 RG or at or 323 9390 298 okay and is there a physical location where the basin will be be established at 26 tenth Street Lakewood New Jersey at the same time as 331 north alta vista boulevard los angeles 900 36 this will be a buying coastal agency it is Michael actually now it's just becoming more more formalized and we're looking forward to being able to have access to it for good things that things should be settled peacefully there's the chemin any just parting words are corny like people note again the number to contact is 323 9390 298 that would be for the East Coast based in harv Prague a real cone you can feel free to contact in the three two three nine three nine OH two nine eight three two three nine three nine OH two nine eight or bathe then it would be be th dash di n dot 0 r g that would be the website where the email would be Beth Din ve th di n org that's three words three words together Beth Din org at gmail com vest and or gmail com this is Paris Eichler for front and center talk thanks for joining us