Zionism #9-Redemption: did it start? No. Why not? Torah gives answer not our own understanding

let's go page Sadiq uh Hey last paragraph the Bible is not responding to an argument uh and to the idea whether the the shita is a personal one it's like a Personal Agenda or it has it comes from Terror and it's from Tara outwards in other words it's a sheeta tatara or is it Tyra tashita I want you to see that inside the imkaima last paragraph the entertainment since there are certain proofs to support the shita of being anti-non anti-non-religious people and all that does how does one know if it's coming from the good side or the bad side that's very simple to answer as I already wrote earlier and he repeats it here again those that have a preconceived shita which are taken from worldly Street ideas and we discussed that at length at last year and I encourage you to listen to it all right and then they desire to encode to dress up their sheeta in a protective measure called Tyra ayudes they bring support to their shita from talmudic sayings of the teachings of the sages showing them various ones again with his sharp wit in the parentheses he says they bring in false into interpretations means false of ram in other words they quote but they they misquote the interpretation I'm going to say something I'm gonna say well have do I'm going to say lahavdo like the the Christians and the Moonies and the Unis and the hunis right and then and the Jews for Joshua what do they do they quote Isaiah 52nd 52 and they take it out of context because they don't know the original Hebrew they don't know number for him and but Mayla someone who doesn't know they said that says over here God's son you see it right here right well you're being you're misalis as a person you're you're making the person crooked right so says in the parenthesis here yeah these people who have the sheet of preconceived shita and then they go out and to find support for the shita from so bringing in their interpretations that a Muslim that are crooked backward wrong misleading as and and using khazal to support support that really this this is my reptilia singer says this is how we fight the mission right right oh come on right I know okay and here he now he says here like the Mizrahi mix and their goddess Duke is you ask them that in the writings of the latter rabbis the like it's explained not the way they say it was referring to that there was the shita in the early on Post State 1948 that it's a scouted and that wasn't the only that was by the misrahicin for sure the cook Knicks for sure and also many are good Nicks so that was you see you See Clearly here he's not you could say oh he's antisocial he's going right now he's giving the agudin Nixon he's telling you're wrong than the way you interpret kazao to support your belief that the with the creation of the state it's a scouted that's a great thing and everything else and it's and we have an opportunity is but don't tell me because how's it going to by the way that the girls repeating what the river spoke and wrote at Great length and guess what a man of such a you know big town and Company they in the beginning believed it was a scout to the guild you're not talking here to language you're talking about the people and he was a you know technically accosted Chabad the wave that was created an Erich Israel particularly after the formation of the state was so so strong that the biggest rabbis and the biggest Hamid and biggest all believe that this is some way and it's counted the Gula each one had their language for it and each one had their support and the Reba that's why I I always say that the rebel was a bigger kanoi than satmer the rebber came out and he wrote letters to represent who he respected and zevin wrote to him and it's printed you could read the letters and he says it's a mistake and and he shows from the rambam that it's a mistake that's what he alluded to earlier in the letter that the rambam says otherwise that's exactly what he was alluding to so he repeats it and he's saying just like the goodness and the misrahinex made a mistake they used kazow to support their shita continue inside anyways and he says they don't have what to answer they don't have a refutation so what do they do they go back to Shas and the restrain them and they and then they make because they only follow shots and reshine them they say that the name are mistaken and we know a cloud in halacha that you follow the name because each generation built on the earlier generation my ship so yes you have been shown him and you have a name and we passed him like that right right the journey we passed away like the base Joseph 500 years ago that's it the Mishra brother right that's how we today right I'll say there's a good morning for Russians that says otherwise well guess what the rap these rabbis know about the gamotis somehow they understood the gamut in a different way so in in Chloe in the rules of sock of of making rulings in how to actually conduct ourselves today we follow the Bible says that some of those from the Mizrahi and the aguda when they came to the determination there's a scouted they brought gamoras very nice knew about the gomares and they said it's not that's what that's what he's alluding to here foreign he says another point if you look carefully at the support shita that they bring from Shahs to support their shita that is the south of the Uma it's usually in agada to gamuris agarita means the stories of talmud and he says they bring from from midrash Kabbalah hasidis and in other words in simply how lovely you won't find such a ruling so the fact that that there is such an interpretation in a madrish that's a Madras we don't pass can help him message we don't pass and I'll pick up Volo we don't pass it on peace is not shot every person can put in his crooked interpretations [Music] in other words it's a type of a limo sin that lends itself to to our own unders not to understand the text but there's no you understand I'll give you an example Tanya right I say this always to Heaven oh we learn Tanya so I say it's nice that you learn Tanya but you learn what someone that has a must say than Tanya there are many many thousands of not Chabad people learn Tanya and that's exactly about time you wanted he didn't make it a little Bobby to save her just for a chabotnik it's a mistake but nevertheless had a son and a talmud a barrister was his talmud Movic the mythical rabbit was his son they were macabo from their father the one who wrote to Tanya the Messiah then they had a student pill of Polish an appeal of Parish had a student [Music] um oh slips my mind I'm getting older uh the grandfather of Rabbi Landau of neighborhood Abraham from the city of Germany so he was a student and and he taught it to the aid named groinam Graham was the Mashpee in the Bible so there must be of the last generation um they taught and from end of Joel being one of them and that's you understand one so we have it we have a Messina so we I say it's it's important to learn Tanya and it's good but you should know that in Chabad they have a Merced from the outer River you know are you can you argue with it of course you can that's the point see since that so what I'm saying is that writes here that even the hasidis it lends itself and yeah every person could put in his own false interpretation and explanation of a text the wrong interpretation nevertheless I just met I felt disappointed to tell you that there is a merceder and if you learn the Messiah right you're going to get it right it's like let's say a Brisk with the rambam right what a person can't argue with a crying but it's good he's God he's not God the answer is that he was such a deep thinker on the and and understood that I'm so correctly that that the the yeshivas believe that his understanding of the rambam is it does it say it anywhere in the Torah no has there been any window can there be someone today that has a genius mind and it can come up an interpretation that that up ends up an interpretation of reply absolutely but nevertheless for the average person that's learning the Messiah in learning rambam properly is brisk that that's it you know you know again so that but didn't learn a Brisk the Bible just didn't learn a Brisk but you know those that are really into learning I'm talking about understanding not the three products I'm talking about analysis depth of you know definitely used Los Angeles yeah I heard children from him I was a town with the first in L.A when I was an older brother and he had a brisker there and it was it was phenomenal you know so what I'm saying is a Mercedes a valuable thing I don't want I don't want I'm saying this I don't want to still walk away from me saying if everyone can make any interpretation they want then what then Messina goes out the window the answer is no it doesn't go out the window but the it doesn't the fact that there's a Messina doesn't take away of a certain way of learning so Kabbalah doesn't take away from a person's ability to put in their own interpretations even Kabula right when I went to see my clue philosophy the the the the babasali's great nephew out in demo and Demona years ago five phenomenal phenomenal experience I have it on on video it's it's a one of one of a kind how he did kabola to to me and a few of the people I brought there that's a Messina I mean taking a book that has all shame Sheamus of Hashem you'll open it up it looks like French or Spanish it's like you know handwritten right and all of a sudden he tells me to take my hand and massage the page with my hand foreign and then it closes it and he starts telling me things about myself and based on what I just did any normal person would say this is cuckoo right this is Abracadabra Michigan for maybe for you and I who are ashkenazim and we don't have a messiah it's we should Goss but he has been trained I believe from in a in a kabbalistic um orientation from generation to generation that he has the Messiah and I don't yes Maisha this is a quick question though in this particular case though what will be all speaking about the Jews coming back to Eric destroy we we've never had I mean we've never had that I don't think we've ever we've never had that treatment before so I'm just I'm just I'm bringing throwing that and asking a question that like we say like we have a sovere to understand I mean how can we even saw her to understand that we we've never we've never had that situation before no no Jews not Jews have come are coming back first of all it's technically wrong there were times when we came back from Bellville it's not true we were above all and we came back he comes about you know 2 000 years ago okay so you're gonna say well they didn't come from uh North Carolina I mean that's that's not an answer okay because you know but that but but besides that what he's saying here is and it's good that you asked the birth of a messiah here he says the Messiah has to be based on the and that's what he's he's saying that if you just base it on shots and then he shine him that's not acceptable because that's not suck that's not right and and my should if you're alluding to you know the facts on the ground well the facts on the ground need to have terror support that's why we're from Jews in other words how do you know that the fact that you know when Jews are able to come back to the land of energy sorrow right is considered the giula it's a nice thing it's an important thing and it's definitely a step closer to mashiach but when you put it into a box in a category gold that's counter the giula you're you are touching upon aha and that's a girl's point when it comes to Allah you gotta find it in Allah and if you don't find it on the contrary in the says that it still golus then the fact that it feels good and seems good doesn't make it and it it feels and it seems good does not make it not even a scouted again that doesn't mean it's not good but there's a difference between good and a how lucky category to satisfy the criteria of the rambam that this is that that's the so you have to really narrow down my what then the could they were talking about not the overall idea so yes what you said how can anyone argue and by the way the belzareba for example I think it's in the back is you know satma will also oppose belts heavily on this nakuda not just going to the elections and the belzarebus said and he was a Survivor and he had to dress up like I think like a woman you know and he went through the the ringer right the bells remember said we have bark Hashem a place to go to that's true No One the red the represents looking there they're never built communities there but don't tell me it equals a scouted so we are we are really narrowing in honing in on a very specific halalic issue whether it's a scouted or not said that it still goes and not an iota of gaula began and by the way the same argument the same argument took things that ever said important things and said therefore it means started no it doesn't it means we're closer it means we have an opportunity so when the rebel said when when when 1991 right when glass nosed and everything happened right and Scots were falling and Jews were saved so he quoted a medrish it's a Madness that that the the the mashiach is on the roof of of of the of the big dush so the Bible said that refers to 770 could say whatever you want no one stops you making your own but don't tell me that that's not oh and the rabbit said that the avidas of the Aveda of the uh the bitter honeysuts is the refining of the Sparks we finished that why do we have to fast why do we have to keep title Mitzvahs or whatever that's not what he meant what are you at you know like so people go and make their own interpretations because exactly what up yoyo is writing here but the softeners we do it too we do it too exactly in other words we first have an agenda whatever that agenda is fast link everyone has their agenda and from and and then you find support for your agenda sabriel says let everyone the analysis has to be is at first Trader and then the cheetah or is the first the sheet and then title let's continue so he says but like they keep a foreign the signaling it's called the signaling the style of writing in the sithri of poiskem in the books of the authority therians is bottom line they tell you do this and don't do this you can't make a crooked you could say I don't want to listen but you can't go like this and like that and like this and like that and stretch it to the right and stretch it to the left can't do that because it tells you you're not allowed to put on trim when it's dark so what are you gonna say now it's not dark outside that's a random interpretation you understand but the Allah says and if it looks dark outside it's dark now you're telling me Twilight time what's the Twilight time what's the haloka before the the nades of versus Alliance here so that about it speaks about that let's go on my shake it one second yes how is it how is it possible though like um [Music] like two hours three hours after this year Roberto Tom that's called Sita battle they have support Ed Tom we don't follow that shita but many many do and and in fact I had that discussion at the Mikvah I came to Mikvah I I didn't get a chance to shower I would have a shower in the morning I wanted another time it was already after the 18 minutes a guy goes into the shower with a piece of soap and a showering I'm saying what are you doing he says it's weekday what's your problem and he tells me stories the vision center and the supper and he's a power I think according to them it's not yet this Mom yes um 58 and a half minutes after the first year how many 58 and a half you hear that okay so there are the arshitas Shane King let's go next paragraph Y and conversely those that bring support to their words from the authorities from the opposite including from the latter authorities that itself proves that these words is the pre is preconceived and what drives them and that's what it boils down to Avi is the shita driving you or is the title driving you is it the kindness in you in other words some people are kanoi but they have a nature of being rebellious angry uh and that's where it begins or no it begins some Tata and then it happens to support you yes Avi I'm glad you're talking finally let's hear some smart words uh it seems to me that we're dealing in semantics everybody has a position everybody has a background that they grew up with everyone has a sheep so you say is the sheet that driving you who is but it's very difficult to separate one whole background if I'm a husted of the revi so my whole outlook is as the rebbe if I'm a facet of a different ready that's the way my Outlook goes that that's wonderful is very very difficult to be totally pure is to extract oneself from the Sheep but the second point that I would like to mention is that it seems to me in my limited knowledge the only one who speaks completely about every aspect of Allah including [Music] as a racial so when you leave you look at the show today it has it has it doesn't have stuff that's no Gaya to the male effort and and malcol and and different things so that's that's the other things when you say you have to look to Allah there are only up until the rambam on nobody really deals with these things and that's what you missed you missed it you weren't here for the earlier classes that's exactly what up Yale said earlier he's that's what he's alluding to the Rambo that's that's his point his point is that the rambam is the poisoning and according to the rambam it's not a scouted he's saying exactly what you're saying so you what your second Point your second point you it again you have to go back and learn the entire text but that's what he said he's saying what you're saying no so so I don't know I don't know whether there's a a concept of his house and the rambam says if he brings all the Jews back there to Israel he fights the worst of this shout and he brings up a mouthful of Fate W they rebuilds the base of mix that he's mishia and and so I don't know anybody and I go tonight I read a lot of different very broadly everyone says mashiach is coming we're closer we're closer to the end than the beginning so if you if you say closer to yes in the beginning that doesn't mean yet definition it's not just about we're closer to the beginning than the end that's a wrong uh similarity yeah in learning I mean you have to study to understand what I just said you really have to study the sugya from the gemurrah to the rambam to the rambang and and the commentaries and and you and the rebels letters on this by the way uh so maybe Farrell or someone else you could sit down with them and and go through the letters or maybe we will get to that in a future time if you want to do that we could go over those letters from the rapper because this was a contested issue but but but now that's that's regarding your first your second Point regarding your first point that that the answer is also that's what abjoy was saying he's saying is when you say the the barbecue follows the rebe and the Buster follows his rebbe what he's saying is if you're ready is violating then and an issue then there's a problem there if God doesn't he says on the contrary and and the rabbit the rapper himself thousands of times I heard with these heirs the rebels said what is the proof to what I'm saying in gimora in and he would say why must I why am I even asking that question and I'll and I'll share with you what I believe is the support is because there are those that gonna say it's my own stick exactly what we're learning here safer let's take a safer and look inside and if it's a contradiction you don't have to listen but if you see that the Titus supports that and it's shot in the data and that's how the the the comment the puskin get their ruling it's tighter so what I'm saying to you is we we're Jewish people we're not fools you know we're been asking we're smart people and and and when someone's trying to pull the wool over us as the expression goes you know we sniff it up one you know pretty quickly and and and we call them on it right so so a red or a God that tries these type of tricks and was done by chopetsv and by the others you know and you misled some people absolutely but we learned a very big lesson and that lesson is in a way we have a right and I discussed this too Avi you should listen to this class we comes to our love who gives up sock you're out of Satan of Rabbi please give me your support for ruling and if a rub is not willing to do it you got the wrong rough that's it any Rabbi that gives a ruling and is not willing to show you share with you if that's what you want what his ruling is based on you have all the right in halachic Judaism to go to another room because it is absolutely acceptable to ask a roof how do you come to this decision now understandably if you do it with and challenging the rub is not going to answer you because but if you genuinely want the source he'll give it to you and I shared a story from my own my own situation my father wanted the the wedding to my wedding to be here not in Australia my wife's from Australia and the rabbi rule that follows the college so my father asked the Rev what are your sources he says no problem give me two three two three days and then he came back with a page full of sources and that was the end of it and I got married in Australia that's the way Jewish law works let's go on a I've heard this kind of argument strange argument from some of the soccer people that is that whenever brings support from contrary to the South Michigan yesterday automatically they say you the Babbage and you're trying to convince other people to follow in the clearer way of you you're going well I wrote this is all an introduction I wrote this introduction of a tick for the Hope secretary you the person I'm writing to him and it's my hope that with this introduction you understand everything I'm going to write further well the husband and you'll understand that the way of La Babbage to be Makara of it's not an innovation that is you know any Innovation is it's actually an old ways that our ancestors walked in Pocket Edition and since among the primary arguments that you that your community has about the Bible says arguing that the Babbage God forbid has been captured by Zionism I will begin countering and explaining this argument this accusation over had them by prefacing he says the overall argument of Grace Israel against Zionism was for three reasons Olive foreign due to nationality this will be explained later so I'm not going to do number one nationality Bass ad the idea that we have the ability to bring yaullah on our own the lawyers and not through mashiach we can initiate mashiach that was another argument of the zionists on which the rabbis disagreed with and number three mitsado is the violation of the three Oaths that Hashem says and we'll talk more about that Hashem the next few urim that you are not allowed to initiate kiola you shouldn't climb the wall meaning you shouldn't as a group do Aliyah as a group meaning to rebel against the so they point to these Superstar if you can look it up so they pointed these three um Oaths as a violation and hence the zionists are guilty of violating these three Oaths so those are the three things that we want to look at and you'll see the top of the next page which we'll learn tomorrow with Hashem is he starts off talking about nationality what what is what is nationality and what is wrong wrong with nationality and and that whole topic nationalism I'm sorry nationalism thank you thank you very important correction that's why I have you here you'll keep me on my feet scientism to everyone love you all take care I'll see you tomorrow Shalom bye