Zionism #6: Is one allowed to argue with Satmar Rebbe's Zealotry approach? Reb Yoel Kahan says yes

we're on page uh Sadiq dalid in the safer Manor home second letter that Bureau Khan wrote in response to different accusations of the sacrament attitudes we are on the last paragraph and now the he will address the following yesterday we learned that he showed a diff us a difference between shop you know shop tights fee and epic courses versus a dinner and canoes kanoi she said is your is your trip it's your thing you know so don't don't dress up kanois to say that that's tighter no it's not Taylor so because in Williamsburg he used the word you know William's birthday they decide that this the way it has to be it doesn't mean that that's the way it has to be it means it has to you decide that that's what you want in your community no problem but you know don't don't don't go and say the rest of the world has to follow you that was yesterday's very brief recap I suggest you listen to the uh the thing the um video okay now we go to the following argument it's not just kanoisa Williamsburg it's a SAT Baro of the satma ribbon so this is more of a sensitive issue how's everybody going to tackle this argument if if the soccer but ever if it's Isha Taylor is a Sadiq so what comes out of him is is Holy that's that's the issue that he's going to address now let's see what he says and although those that argue that accepting a Jew that's not religious and Etc in looking at him or her as not a Russia these people who feel this way do not want at all to agreement foreign this was written after he passed away in 1979 a few years after so they're following what that read me said so what do you want from them stay tuned was says I have two responses to that aleph yr many things that are said in his name the stopper of his name he never said that and that I can tell you is a fact when I researched my book of it was clear that this is the case he had very powerful gaboyim very powerful people surrounding him and you know smart people political people etc etc and they call the shots especially since 1968 when he had a massive stroke so although they did bring him out and you know for different things and he might have even dive into Fila Etc but from 68 to 79 when it passed away his Entourage really called the shots okay they will tell you not that way but that that's a fact in other words I'm not saying they didn't you know go over to Reba we're doing this and this I read but we suggest this of this and he didn't have the kayak to the the the shark kite the sharp the sharp the sharp the the sharp the sharp the sharpness the sharpness yeah thank you the sharpness that he had before and the CL it was a very smart clever person I'm not talking about a town called I'm sure he was but just as a a human being he was a real sharp cookie okay that was lost that was lost because that's the way it is I I know someone here who I'm close with who had a stroke and but Hashem he speaks you can understand them but The Click The Click is no longer there and the result is you know in in in in in the sheer that he gives it dropped from you know 20 30 people to five ten people it just you know because the click and and and and and you know if there's the doctor but you just have to tell you as a Layman sitting and listening and observing is when the click is not there it it just takes out the the shama the essence from communication and it's it's communication for a public private you know communication is is not bad although the memory is not the same in all that so the Samara was in that situation so even if you'll argue that he was there before in 68 to 79 uh you know 11 years he was around and all that I'm sorry my friends it's not the case okay so the types of the nebul said the first thing is that he never said those things they tell him Booky Suki but actually it happened I'm not exact translation you might look it up at a different time does anyone know what bukisuki means it's an expression an expression means like they they they they're told in they hang they hang you know their uh what should I say this their trivial matters and opinions um large on great trees and what's happened of is the sacrament of right he's a great man a great title personality so they are told they hang they're still they're nonsense and saying that he said it that's what a boy was saying but he's saying that I think it's Allah I think he says I will write more about this later on so we'll get more into this uh some examples of this um believe that I'll try to look it up I'm sure we'll find online the expression Base number two the whole day of the day is in this generation there were debates on different matters the whole in in the Torah world the whole earth maybe and everyone brought a proof from Charles to his opinion Sadiq foreign a proof to prove your point against someone's red so I'm it's Taylor and and we're allowed to bring bring the opinions based on terror arguments the whole life is in the parenthesis and to and to accept their argument the satma argument that if you one second that if you bring our if you bring positions in in arguments against my rebbe it's from Clipper it's negative Etc we never heard this just think in other words I mean could you imagine the students of basis we have hello the students of Base Hitler will say you guys are up because you know because you can you have the audacity to argue with somebody you know how great sham I was Hudson find me find me anywhere Shaz you'll see that you you don't find it why because the natural phenomenon and the natural thing is discussion and argumentation and tell you that let me just finish the paragraph here and then I'll let you ask or say comment company said goofy who naked clothing says this attitude is against the rules of the whole purpose and structure of Allah is argumentation from prove your point one argues with the others what do you tell him I'm not allowed to argue with the supper of I am allowed to that's part of Taylor you don't have to accept it but I'm allowed to argue and to call me not be clear this and and because and you know for doing that you created your own your own your own title says and if someone will will say so that you're not allowed to argue Canal this proves like we said earlier [Music] this proves that the foundation in your in that argument isn't Taylor but rather something else I.E your own ego yes it's good yes sir I was just going to say that I've I've heard this personally um that who is he it's an argument of from from uh Authority who is he to argue with such a Tom and coffin that the Santa Maria was such an Arun godo and such a time with and who is this person okay they may they may be around they may have Smitha but you're not talking about the level of Godless and Tyra that from y'all have and if they if they're if they're not even close to that level of Torah then they they have no business entering the discussion I've heard it myself we've all heard it that it's it's it's it's not Jewish and it's not it's not tell you that's yeah it's the end of discussion I don't care that it's a simple thing and and proof is proof is there's a there's a rule in it's called you come to your judgment tell me why and I'll tell you a practical story well my sister is getting married to my brother-in-law was from Australia my parents wanted the marriage to be here and the the rough poskin um uh the rough poskin I'm sorry no not my sister a different story take it back when I got married my wife's from Australia and my parents wanted the wedding here you know we're a small family a holocaust family you know what I'm saying we don't have many relatives I also wanted to hear all my friends are here at that time 1984 going to Australia was like going to the Livonia to the Moon at least for for our community you know the flying non-stop to Australia back and forth you know it didn't it didn't exist in those days so anyway my father went to the roof Rabbi Marlo sorry said that the first said that you know you have to follow the Kala the colors in Australia you want to marry her you got to go there I'm like oh you can go yourself you can go to your family you know but she gets that's the way it is actually we weren't happy so my father's friend Malo prove it give me prove it my mother said no problem in a few days he gave my father a list of references and citations a page link he didn't say you hurts but Yak when's the last time you opened the Gomorrah my father worked very hard and everything else what what are you Atomic you know what I'm saying no you have a right to say to another respectful way give me show me the the sources for your ruling and anyone that can tell you that that's not acceptable is it ignorant and if it's not ignorant he's outrageous so so that's what you're saying here it's a double a push it and don't let anyone uh tell you otherwise because it's simply not the fact it contradicts the entire method of of Toyota and and Messiah of Taylor naturally you know the mother says in in these in these issues in passing like this sort of like this town and these issues why because they were experts in those So within the world of tarab sack we would go that Maisha Feinstein was known to to to take upon himself and no very sensitive issues for example of of uh you know in vitro fertilization and and you know having children when you can't have children very sensitive questions he a knew the topic B took upon himself the responsibility of giving up sock so we followed him and and bigger upon him said for this go to that moisture so in other words we we have in each generation individuals that they are they they either well they know and they take upon themselves the the sock and this is very important since we're talking about this for another second that when you go to a to a Shoemaker to ask him about the Stock Investing you're out of your mind you gotta go and you know in the river what did the rebel always tell people when it when it came to a business question go to business people he didn't tell you go to that abundant if you want to know whether you should buy this business or invest in this business you know and of course a rabbit gives you a profit that Hashem should bring the prophet to what you're doing but the first when it came to medical things they never said go to doctors there was rhyme and reason to his answers it wasn't just you know pulled out of about a hat so what do we see from all this that the Messiah is is is is so important and to say that that we're not allowed to argue and and and present another position is not right that's the next paragraph no I'm sorry oh one second the paragraph says I know I know their argument in other words he's just going further and further going to refute the different arguments what's the next one the comments foreign they'll say there could be another gobble that can argue with my ribby said that's when he's a real year but if the fellow arguing with the South by Rabbi is no big you know there's no greater Godly no great you know tadiq the holy crawfish and all the proofs that the person brings to his opinion it's not that these sources are the source for his brother she yesterday it's that he has a previous cheetah and that Cheetah club mishasu Place fungus his sheath is taken from the of the street and only afterwards in other words his first opinion comes from the street and then it's not nice No One's Gonna respect that so he finds justification within Taylor and so therefore we're not allowed to listen to this person because the sheriff's a creature creep and all that can be confined purely you know with 150 reasons what he's saying is the very simple hello this is the argument they'll say like this and another God will argue to my rebbe I can hear I can hear that it's acceptable but when the other person arguing comes from the street had in other words he he really is a street guy and then he did asserted some tell you now to justify his street attitudes he can't argue in a government that's so so what what have you I was saying is the the next arguments is yeah if the Bible himself or a girl a girl would argue with with my rabbit my software about ABC I can hear it but when the when the lab who compared to the samurai was a street guy Etc almost eaten the street people you know with a little Torah and a little fruit kite and all that that's not acceptable that's the argument right now says up next paragraph I will tell you in the zoo he says that argument is not applicable at all here why yes hello you're I'm you you're a mute unmute yourself no you're still on you now okay leave my voice what is the rusty tables I didn't quite get it which one where where in the first line is to our case is our you seems lost okay great you got it verb we need we need we need Dune and then the last dialed is the done to our case okay so he says that itself is the discussion here since there's an adequate explanation skip the parentheses and he says not in the parenthesis it's not our explanation isn't a a deutschic um the second paragraph the third line you're welcome Ella be it has been this says this itself is the discussion the discussion is that it's not coming from the Bible who are Outcast it's coming from the rebel and the rep is a Sadiq and a goddu and he says that it's important to be what kind of eat that's what that's what y'all saying you guys think that we made this up you know like like the island company a small change but let it you know let's even argue they're not something came into daylim Etc says if yo that itself is wrong it's coming from the red but not coming for the people that's what he says here I'll call it is there is an adequate explanation for each of your questions you sat in my questions how did that we must say he's saying the sheet of the Bible is it it's it's Shahs it's poskin it's it's nothing else it's not street it's toilet look at the apprentice and if nevertheless yesler shot you the SAT Bros making these accusations has an accusation that's not that the the Torah is first and the shita is second but rather the sheet to come and and it's not it's that if you accuse us that it's your sheet the first and then the justification versus the the Torah and then the justification that girl says if you're going to accuse us of that really we love every Jew and because we love every true they're even The Sinner and there and and then we find khazao to support it rabio says if that's your accusation I can say the accusation on the sapla river savior of the Joel worship and the same about Google has a shita going back to Hungary and going back to his youth where he couldn't stand a non-religious person and he felt that wrong with this person is a GUI is a Russian then in order to justify it he wrote a safe because everyone would throw would throw them out of the community how could you have this attitude so I'll find you sources and so in other words of you saying it's called in Hebrew name I don't know if an English there's an equivalent means either or make up your mind make up your mind if your argument is that with babic is obviously slow for every Jew including a sinner is not Torah but it's our own stick and the Torah that we use to support it is just a a subordinate idea an adjunct we can't well we could say the same argument on the shot the reference word so if you buy if you believe the disciple of his forum is not his own trip but rather Torah oriented you should have the same belief that will probably the the barbecue attitude is total oriented with the Shazam poskin and khazal and and the shita of an actuality of going out and reaching out to everybody is a result of the Torah belief in in reaching out that's what he says in this paragraph is that clear hey look is it clear yeah Jonas and clear good for him timers further that's the only goes further and further he splits airs VM timer and if you'll say Mickey Mouse you know what we're gonna we're gonna stop here because I see it's late and have another share so um this way we're learning about Hashem tomorrow we'll continue here but you do see you do see why it is such an important work because it's it's countering you know it's countering the the attitude from every angle you know from from you know what I'm saying because if if revio would not entertain the argumentations and the accusations from every angle so then one would say well his response was was this much it's limited but there's a different situation you know what I'm saying so for example what we learned today is you know yeah I would agree with you that we have to listen to the arguments of of a goggle of another rapper but not not just people who make up a decision that they want to just do Outreach because it's fun or it's nice it's it's a social thing you know it's nice to be my car of everyone because it's it's good socially is that the reason for Chabad for Toyota KIRO no interested earlier he said any organization he said and for that matter he would say it on republics too anyone or any organization that they're here of that have fought their Outreach is based on their own when and their own Comforts that's not the Toyota obviously said all that we're talking about and what he's saying and explain to us is that babichi's attitude as well as others he's not he doesn't mean that only the Bible but he's saying Shirley Lubavitch because that's what he knows best you he's telling he's saying that this is based on a Toyota attitude of simple obviously without any other reason pure there's no money involved there's no Fame involved there's no Comfort involved it's simply to help another you that's all nothing else any comments anything you'd like to say Kevin or that's it okay we'll see everyone tomorrow have a great day everyone Shalom bye