Zionism #31- Chazon Ish says you need to do outreach, Satmar confuse Torah's rebuke

so when I'm paid we're learning we're in the middle of the paragraph on page aleph 121 the last paragraph where the bureau brings their argument the argument the satbird the Commodore says there's certain people that your Mora you descend you lower you don't elevate and um if that's the case it would apply to what to show him to cover him so the bureau it brings from the Sheila shivitz from the yak of emden uh and he brings that that this doesn't apply in a situation where there's a chance for them to do chuva and since we believe every year it can do chuva that's what we should do and he also brought in the next into the paragraph with the last paragraph We Looked yesterday that the Nish who was of course you know the father figure of the literature movement in the 1930s and 40s there to Sorel and benebrock keep asking senior today that um we should be more we should be more here we should we should scold them so that they do children so what we see clearly is whether it's the ivitz of the 1700s or it's of the 1930s and 40s Etc they believe that the idea of Meridian is only a last resort when the person doesn't want to do truva now let's go to the last paragraph page last paragraph the one when the mother speaks about Marita Milan it doesn't mean that you're obligated to have Misa to be to as a punishment for your sinus someone did if someone did a a sit here below right how can chuva what's the spiritual thing remove the punishment who Mrs best then what is saying is simple if someone is and then you say he the juvenile will the best and still give him Marcus absolutely right because that's the way the works made a decree for this sin you got Marcus you can retriever spiritually and the blemish will be removed from your heart and and you'll have a the world to come but you're still getting pitch you're still getting Marcus and he says the last paragraph four lines down five lines down verac foreign shouldn't be lost and their faith in God shouldn't be lost cause martially shoveled as long as they didn't do Trooper looking chips says in that situation you're obligated to die if you if we should make their milkshake Amigo Milsa means comes to work together offense Milson means something in other words the Titus says look we don't want you to come to do this sin so we're going to give a gather we're going to make a an enactment a border so you don't get so far right the same people might tell you right Hashem says you're not going to come on the mountain so what did we do he had a a fence built around the mountain further away so that it'll prevent you from getting to the mountain the same idea is here top of the page this is what the rambam writes we punish them so that Jews aren't lost and faith is not lost so what do we see the object the objective is that the faith of a Jew and the Jewish people shouldn't be lost and therefore we we we enact punishment but what's the ultimate purpose not the punishment the ultimate persons they should do true but in order to to in order not to get to go too far we make an enactment the zealous Shane and he says it says the same thing this is this ignore the primary law of Morita it's only because of making offense it's a temporary thing that was necessary so what do we see that it's only a temporary thing so in other words that's not where it's at to curse Jews and want their death is against Tita to prevent Jews from going further that's within Theta so therefore what should be the hope of of of of of of of of us towards the sinner those that sin it should be that they do truth give it to Iraq since this was only done the punishment is only done to remove a greater obstacle because as exciting quoting the words of the rambam how they move in the pastors we understand simply um explicitly because the two-sided sources that it's a myth it's a great myth not just Maisha mitsu but it's a great Mitzvah to make them to chuva bring people to the chuva try to aimless there's no greater removal of an obstacle in the caribility if you give a person a chance to do truva and be my queen of the third become closer to Theta summarizes from all of the above citations it is clear and explicit meaning that even Heretics and even um but our Heretics are able Yeshua um and those that are put forth effort to bring them to do two children they've done very well very good this is God's will foreign the next argument that those that are sinners are infants that have been captured in Warfield everything was said until now is about complete Heretics who who says you should lower them skip the parenthesis but in our situation in today's situation the whole idea of Morita the way Milan doesn't apply for him should be a menu and we've discussed this many times now she or him the Heretics in our days including those that write Sione is that Russia like you cited the other a few weeks ago um majority of them doesn't write all of them but the rubum kikulam the majority amongst and amongst most of them came to Nike in Israel they are are captives they don't know better these these people who are doing these sins and not observing and all that is they were educated and then different with some of Rashad recliners okay so Shaman at Sawyer the the keyboards that was totally against the Torah and all that what do you want the leaders you can argue the leaders will be punished you know for misleading but everyone else all those that were raised and those people sinned what do you want from them their team their infants that have been captured and he says she'll leave they don't know the difference in these people they don't know the difference between a from Jew and a non-frame Jewelers and I have to tell you Kevin you know this is exactly the case today Milan abuse says they punished in one second motion doesn't apply to them therefore absolutely absolutely sure he's a mixer to bring them closer to them to the strength the children of the uh [Applause] these people who are lost with the name and their grandchildren had him it's like a child has been captured says it's appropriate to bring the truth and to attract them to Taylor through words of Peace actually but hey I want to finish this part and then I'll take a question if this time quotes that and he quotes the shark next paragraph and and then he brings the receivers for Sarah okay I'm going um I'm going to the next page because that's a citation that he quotes over here okay basically we'll take that much as question just the last line of this paragraph on gimbal before the word shita if it says it's known the slogan of the river the free the Caribbean as an epic Creator stop sign a Titan okay you heard of the word Das right we talked a lot about Das what's my shadas not just knowledge but Focus maturity velveil so the fleet again ever says I'm not the greatest right who supposedly knows all the state and nevertheless Rebels needs to be a Titan that needs to be strong in the area of Das of Common Sense and maturity and many times or most times they aren't they can have a lot of information but their Das is is weak yes Maisha what do you want to ask [Music] shock shock is in the shock yeah lived about 500 years ago four or five hundred years ago I think in Poland maybe Galaxy I'm not sure the sips yes yes because I know there's also like a shark on the Torah by someone else it's somebody else so I'm just curious but I guess this makes this would make sense there's a shot yeah thank you you're welcome so so what we have here is the the sheeta now we're not going to start this next part the next part is the famous cheetah the Sam Cipher which the satmer swear by that because by then some safer although he was from prashburg but it's close enough to uh satamari you know it's just so it's just so funny like you're a Hungarian you're staunch in Hungarian in Hungary right who becomes your father figure the Sam Cipher who was asking us now maybe satbar also originally was asking us I don't know if you know that I think so but it became later smart but the whole idea I'm saying the whole idea of finding some safer and and making him the father figure again some safe was a very big sandic and a very big plastic and everything else but it's like why don't you find you know from your own people to point to they took the samsipher and in a way they made the exam safe and their uh their baby it's like it's like many people accuse Chabad and brisk of taking the rambam and making the rambam their baby the brisk you know in understanding right Israel no brisk no Chabad it's wrong well in the same way but because of some safer for than their login you know but in their login they're reformed in Hungary and that whole region he fought them therefore he became a symbol of fighting the up you know that what they call the optic course and the reform and the zionists as well and all of that so he becomes like their go-to and because he was a basic and a person that was accepted by everyone well pretty much everyone therefore he becomes the Father Figure so therefore it up yoyo here in the next upcoming paragraph is going to um take a look at the sheet of the Sam Cipher on these issues and then dissected as he's done all along but but that's why that's why uh the cat the caption over here to the upcoming paragraph Sam cyphus stands out and some safer I think we learned we learned it inside and we repeated it many times and that's a slogan Heather something that is new is forbidden may not Theta that's something that that it's a hand that fits the glove so properly in the satmer Vantage Point don't do any condition you know walk you know walk behave and look just like you were in Europe 150 200 years ago the truth is the truth is that when the labich yes we started by the river shop and his son the flee the kidnapper and I forget which a big cross at the end of the time saw the Yeshiva he said that a shahb turned the clock back a hundred years or something uh someone has their beauty on Hillel please mute yourself anyway Hillel Hillel mute hello anyway so the the so you ask what's the differences sir oh can I can I mute wait a minute all right we'll learn now while we're safe terrible terrible I should be able to control that motion though I'll check back in when I'm done I'll call him now uh yes he's muted okay it was okay what time what time is it I know I didn't know the time anyway okay I got two minutes I have to leave early today but what's the difference between the rashab you know they're saying that the Russia brought the Babbage back a hundred years the Yeshiva of Chabad in 19 1897 1900. turned the clock back a hundred years in other words with its attitudes and that's the answer it's with with its attitudes and the attitudes not include cursing Jews hating Jews and things like that that was the furthest thing from it was predicated on pay to Columbus base and Tanya and even I was telling to someone here yesterday even even the the way they registered and accepted the students Yeshiva did not require valvel you should be a common you know that it requires one thing Caballo are you willing to listen to the to the to the program and if we tell you to learn see this you learn see this and you learn nickel and you'll Daven and and don't think it went so easy they also had issues and you had to work it out and the shop wrote essays but that was his criteria for joining the Yeshiva not that you had to have a red a white yamaka a red dragon and and they dressed very as I told you they were very poor and they dressed in a very Hasidic way but that wasn't the criteria the famous Sheila was known as uh the sea lamb came from a gymnasium and he started to learn it was accepted in a time for it to be me he didn't have a pedigree of of being some kind of great comic book with a family that was oh so mayuka is so special and he became Shiland that was their Shah the same Russia that you say about his Shiva turned it back a hundred years he accepts someone from a gymnasium the the the the the the sheet of of of you know the way they interpret it means to the to the point where you you you you squash and squeeze and oppress everyone else it's it's day and night little I'm sorry came on late you'll have to hear the sheer if you want because I do have to go I feel for you I I I have to go today if um uh my uh right right right so in the future try to make sure because we heard the whole conversation of you and your wife it was very nice very respectful anyway we will have shift tomorrow Mr Sharp I wish everyone a good day and uh Hanukkah shallow bye bye take care