Zionism #27- Zionist saved Satmar Rebbe on 21 Kislev - Today Chabad & Satmar love in peace

so let's get to the text today we're on page coffee with Zion we're about to finish this section of the letter in where abio is to quote his words in the first line of coffee cup he actually cited that which means what are you messing with my head he was quoting the satma who said to the laborator what are you messing with my head with these intellectual oh um nuances you guys are zionists and and puzzle and uh it's interesting yesterday um one of the uh YouTube clips I got a message from someone I don't know who he is he asks me are you a Zionist or an anti-zientist so either he's a fool or he's uh playing with me or he didn't take the time to listen to the 25 or 26 Euro which probably for surely sure he didn't um or I'm able to uh hide the truth well so the bio here you know is always putting himself into the shoes of the the accuser the attacker and he he seeks to unravel the Warped way of thinking and this is something just for another second that he taught us and that we automatically by learning from him his genius was in many areas but his genius also was he would show you that you would think about this in this in this way and then he would show you that it's wrong that way of thinking and then he would tell you the right way of thinking like like a friend of mine says he did brain surgery on us it was amazing because the way he said the com the way of the normal average student would think about this particularly this was correct and many times you know sometimes it was correct but many times he would say it it's not the way you should be thinking about it and and that was a a very subtle way of training the our minds how to analyze a piece of cities and the Same by the way is the salivatrix the brisk that's what brisk does with the gamara and the rambam it's exactly what they do it's not that others you know don't know gamura and don't learn it deeply but they're they're the Kings sharp mind and and Clarity you know I identifies exactly with how you should approach this piece of Gamora and the and the train of thought that's necessary and why other train of thoughts at the end of the day is wrong shot in the rambam or in the gamar whatever they're looking at and that's a gift and it's it's uh it's it's important and I would think in your college education I I would assume you had a professor or two who who had this type of uh mind and and T and taught that way and then you know maybe you didn't I don't know but this was the the the the specialty of this particular teacher at abiara which we we didn't have I had other you know very very um but they didn't have this gift this is a a real and it was a a real gift and to be able to sit at his feet and see how he puts himself into it and that's what he's doing here in the countries so when he says it's not talking messing with the head he's talking about the Sadler Hussein Le babish khabar is messing with the head and they are straightforward you know you guys identify with the with with the zionists you go to their their their their their their marches um to put on thrilling because you're really zionists you say the alphabetes even though he sinned he's a Jew you're a Zionist and you know oh I they're quoting that and Chabad quotes is night and day as we said what we learned makes no difference so let's continue now Kofi design last part of Harry Potter it's simple it's self-understood Denise someone who will argue and say that are our innovators and therefore it's forbidden is a big foolishes why because it's an open explicit Gamora the gemara says that you should be makarif and and people and and then and therefore you know what are you saying that we're doing what the mother says and therefore we're bad therefore we're going to show him well Marshall he also came with smashing Israel takifa and the fact that this was not done when the Jews didn't have the upper hand because they couldn't do so it's not they didn't want to do so they did want to do so but imagine going in the streets of Moscow and Atlantic rotten wherever else and and and and and and when when you weren't allowed to teach you this guy to children and the youth and you did it openly you never saw the light of day again you were sent away you never came back and guess what it happened it happened many times yes my yes it was right now specifically I'm asking because the reason I'm asking is because because you know when we think because I would say because in seven shortly after 67 War right Moshe Diane yeah he started giving things you know he started like you know he was like catering to the herbs and I was we we could have kept things like for example we could have kept like complete you know that's not what he's talking about what you're talking about is not at all what he's talking about that that's what I'm asking what's he talking about he's talking about this idea that that uh to reach out to others is is um a kind a violation of you know doing Innovative things in Judaism that wasn't seen before in our history and uh Etc that's what he's identifying they are he brought this Gamora about Islam the Jews have the upper enrollment as a sidebar to respond to arguments of the South Borough I but I don't believe he's like he's talking about that at least not not right here maybe elsewhere so let's continue well he said nothing but again mama's been A gayly status there are those again referring to the December those that argue why do you exert effort that the idea of exerting effort with the Hashim with the non-religious through speaking to them it's it's it's a a waste of time be on Innovation and be and see you're not allowed to do it because you don't have an upper hand the championship potatoes are Clayton you see Maisha look at look at the line here you'll see that what I said before is exactly what he says here the matiboshiba since in the previous generations they never did this because they couldn't do this okay therefore even today that we do have the ability to speak about you disguise and to reach out also losses came that's the except for argument yeah whatever yeah that too in Europe no way no way exactly etc etc app should record it because he's going back to this good morning supas I believe every time it's a Mitzvah to reach out and be and bring people in behind the sivas he brought the the commentator called to see was basic La Aloha he made he gives a a rendering rendering not only is it a Mitzvah I'm the best thing to him to it to enforce the the tradition in the midst but it's amidst what the receiver says on the individual you know listen not even not just the best now he says refuting and saying those that argue that this shouldn't be done because it's Innovation ain't shaked him but before him they're fools and uh stripped from any sense of intelligence and one does not need to respond to them at all because it says clearly don't refute don't answer the fool with his uh disgust because he's he's the fool is disgusting in his argumentation being a dick excuse me a damn fool don't waste your time to answer it so if you're basically saying at the end of this that that this idea one sec this idea let's go back to the um page the Mitzvah campaigns and the tanks and of the fighters against the simulation there are in a nutshell I'm giving you another summary of these two pages that that the the argument was this was not the tradition we did it wasn't done before in Russia and Europe in the on and on and on what business do you have to do it and his answer is of course it wasn't done because we couldn't do it our hands were tied we didn't have control but today it isn't that way and therefore we have an obligation to it that that's the that's the the summary of what it says here one second question now I told you last time of several students before that the rep the rabbit the same rabbit that he's talking about whatever in the first year after the uh we won the war The Six Day War that episode to leave at its Israel only I'm sorry to leave yerushalayim here of pesach to leave yerushalayim out of space because according to our baby of Paris of Paris that commentator he says you're obligated to bring the carbon pesos if you need a lion when you have control so maybe this does touch now with what you were saying before Maisha so there was a point where the Jewish world thought that we will now be in control and be the only ones to make the decisions about our bias and heaven and everything else and we won't have the uh 60 plus years or 70 years of fighting in Michigan that we still have and maybe maybe without some soap this government will will will will you know end some of those things and I can see already that they're giving them a hard time and they're capitulating you know the big talkers now wants to get into the knesset they they sing another song you know with the yamakis and everything else they sing another song because the pressure of America and the world but let's hope they'll have the kayak to stand strong the only one probably would have not capitulated I I seems that we would would have been mayor Kahana although Solomon who's not with us any any longer but it seemed that he would have had the kayak to withstand the pressure it reminds me in 1976 in August I believe but nothing begging the former prime minister came to to America and he visited the rabbi visited a bunch of Feinstein but he visited there's a tape of it maybe and probably a manuscript transcript today of it and he said to them but it's amazing did you look at the rabbit's words from the 50s the 60s the 70s the 80s and the early 90s it didn't change in these issues it didn't change you know and and it just goes back to like this you know this Russian stubbornness of tied up and salivation had it like you don't you don't wave you know but the river really the snares you know you know people can play and say they get that it's nonsense I tell you from as a historian someone who studied it up and his writings and everything else and participated for 25 years he didn't change it was the same tune and people got bent out of shape big time and money stopped coming in when it came out with the who was a Jew and so you know it started to die down and then he and then in the early 80s he started again and it made such a uproar by the reform movement and some of them were close to shlochen and they stopped giving money under that but you didn't change him you didn't change him you know because of money I'm gonna stop what I believe is the title's word so the the the the the rep in in in the earliest of years he spoke about this idea and he didn't change his tune and and and and and and that's it and that's it so that so so the the he was hoping that that we would not capitulate and not give back land which they did unfortunately and we have such a balagon and headache because of it struggling every day you know to keep our land our land we have to fight to keep you know I mean it's like Michigan it's our land you know it's not about what being mean or evil it's our land what is your problem Bodacious bodily came Rashi says oh you live in Russia if you don't believe in Rashi then Russia's words are meaningless Rashi says he gave it to them and he took it back so Rashi doesn't know and Rashi is not on the babature and Rashi is not a habotnik Rashi every lead learns Rashi every Yeet from the Russia right the same Rashi says in the first tragedy of the second Rapture with the imperations that Hashem created the world and he gave energy and he decided to take it away and he and and you know bring and take it back so it's our land but we didn't keep we didn't keep that we didn't keep it we didn't keep it we gave we we we gave away and and so so that's when we lost control Maisha so we're not we're not we're the owners but but we have squatters sitting in our land and how logically that logically there are issues that come along with that so some of those issues are that certain things you couldn't do but at certain point at a certain point you were able to do it and one was the 67 War which led to the seemingly our control so there ever felt that therefore the Imp the law of Paris would apply but it's next year we saw that they gave back and sort of said there's no there's no obligation you know there's no we have no sleep there so much I'm just saying this because I don't know if maybe you weren't here you were traveling when you weren't here when I spoke about it the first time I was repeating some of what I said then that this is not just uh talk but it had a practical implication in the that's associated with Arab pesach and the same would have been in other issues nevertheless nevertheless regarding what we're discussing here in this letter the the the accusation and attack that we shouldn't that we shouldn't reach out and we shouldn't be makotive and all that because we are The Underdogs We Are The Underdogs it's nonsense because in this area we're not underdogs anymore well you could go one second you can go to anywhere in the world anywhere and stand on the street no one's going to you know put you in jail for that maybe they'll put you in jail for other things but not for that yes we should I just wanted to ask what you mentioned the camera remember y'all he refers to this gamara turn over there please fourth paragraph there's Mercedes you see that yeah yeah that's the gamara that's paper Olive the government says you have to you have to summon you have to force a Jew the business to force them to do the mix of of of making the sukkah and taking a little of uh it's that it's this paragraph number four that review is referring to throughout okay and the commentator and the commentator lesivos is also mentioned there I believe it's not there no in the next paragraph oh and in paragraph number five it didn't if it didn't this obligation instruction to enforce so it's these two things that is referring to later in the countries let's go on let's go on now one of the other one of the other great sins of the Babbage that satma attack uses is our being buddy buddies with the Wicket who are the Wicked the non-religious this is a crime and a sin you know writes about this let's see what he says the idea of loving a Jew applies gobbler to show you even to the wicked novelty Kim you could find an Atlanta base chapter 32 over 8 Commerce and many other swearing uh look over there Atlanta you'll see how he explains it so in other words your your your issue with with Chabad reaching out to what you call a shame and and and and being you know being friendly with the what they call the shyam uh it's an idea of oppositional and already the altarapa speaks about it and its importance in chapter 32 to love every single Jew even the Jew is not religious who you call it Russia and not only is the altarama the one who speaks about it but many others for him do so don't blame the Bible but if anyone in and you're wrong to blaming anyone uh go back to to 200 years the anxious as I'll say out this couple of Russia's right don't befriend a wicked person it doesn't contradict this uh the statement of the sages out this capital of Russia don't be befriend the Russia why about the Scrabble in Russia what is the meaning of that saying that the Russia is primary the atom is you join and our ancillary to the Russia my shanking conversely from June the Torah Jew is the icker the atom is you are bringing the Russia close the terrorism we were commanded Leos according against love creatures uh creations and bring them close to Torah the gum even those that are the only virtue is that they're creations of God excuse me including the wicked who are included in this category is 32 you have to pull them with thick ropes of love the car from the title Mitzvahs bring them closer to Taylor mitzvahs [Music] so it says explicitly but Tanya sham and Tanya chapter 32 Mata lotion of your rights I cited almost verbatim the exact words of Tanya this difference creatures Creations everyone people and bring them closer to Vain and between that and they stick them not to befriend a Russia iron gum came by Peter sharp a secless others you'll find his comment over there on the mission about the Scrabble in Russia while the missionary cites another book called nature it now quotes a safer called nature the outer Scrabble Russia don't befriend the Russia that you will have friendship with him altar Rico don't it says don't befriend them but nevertheless don't distance yourself from him the lump Dilma because maybe yes it is [Music] because of you because you brought him close and they won't go and destroy the world because you brought him close okay he writes to say foreign Russia [Applause] that doesn't mean to become their best friends and he's actually very specific don't do business with them like a shot in your name I've kind of showing me so until here is the end of the citation the king cause of the medicine uh one minute one second please let me just finish the paragraph the king cost of Amanda schmoob Hashem behind us it gives other citations yesterday what were you saying whoever was saved that might have been yeah so so the commander says this special heavy words so what what what's the distinction here let's let's form let's back up the difference between the saber as befriending don't distance yourself it's like the gemara says elsewhere years ago it's one of my most famous quotes in the Gamora respect the person Covedale from the word covered with you suspect him in other words there's a difference between giving covet honor but at the same time you know you gotta check out the situation the same is over here there's a difference between befriending and becoming a friend and and the idea of rehook distancing yourself in other words so that's why the commander says that that um is that doing business is like you know eating bread playing golf together you know what I'm saying coming buddy buddy call me buddy buddy to the point where you could learn from their acts and therefore reduce your commitment to tell her that no but the idea of reaching out and being the kind of that yes so this is the first thing that he says in this paragraph to show us that the idea of kirov isn't a Kiddush of the lababa chereba as they tend to argue what's the time now 3 12 and after so what any questions on this any thoughts on this what we learned now now I know that it might sound like wait a second you it sounds like from the commandment and review bringing it over here that there's room today okay so today for kind of keeping the distance first of all we didn't read the rest of the we didn't learn the rest so we have to one sec we have to learn the rest second thing is second thing is you have to put it in a context again everything that's been put into context what's the context of the discussion the conscious of discussion is assuming they're ashamed we don't assume they're ashamed this whole discussion he will you understand Maisha is about assuming they're assure you say they were shyam so that's that's my question I'm sorry yes I am that we that's the Clinton the classical sense are we talking about the rasheem as it's defined by the balutania if they're ashamed that's defined by the supper that if you don't put if you don't keep Shabbos and you don't put film on you're a Russian and and and and and what is the balatonya and and the rebels say no they're tinnitus they're not the only ones that say they're children have been captured in war so they don't fold their whole category I'm going to show you so yes if you have someone who learned this whatever Chappelle's and and and and came to a point then all of a sudden they get up I mean I think you have this without destroy these posters I remember you know these people who were from and they become Frank they become anti maybe they were being together in Russia I'm not I'm not I am we Chabad we don't we don't consider ourselves the authorities to go and label people or show you we have our own issues to deal with we have all our own we'll show you inside but those that yes I just said on that point I mean I think it's pretty I think today most most circles certainly most romantic I don't almost remember but I think it's pretty clear that even people like that like you just described people who they're raised religious they left they went off so to speak you know and and now they're anti even those people I mean I mean why did they why did they go off to begin with obviously there was a lack of you know they they also need to be loved right let's begin with right on that note the the Simon Jacobson the other night he was speaking and I overheard him say you at the fact he said that it said a story maybe you guys heard in the past he said that he was once you know it used to be fashionable to do um talks at bookstores with as an author you know I I myself think that in Baltimore I forget the name you were living at that time there but Hill I forget there was a nice chain there wasn't a Jewish chain but uh they were very open and we did a you know so no I'm not Barnes and Noble no Barnes a local chain in in in the Baltimore Washington area and forget now come to me maybe more orders books no no no an unknown name anyway so so Sigma was invited to do for when his book came out meaningful life in in s Cruz California okay and he talks and he gives his talk over there and a girl a girl or a young lady comes up there and she says um very interesting you know it reminds me of my youth he says really what's your youth I grew up in Borough Park I went to base yaakov and my teachers drilled into me the whole time how you know non-religious Jews are you know a lot of a lot of negativity you know and I I didn't like it and my parents you know went along and that's and she says and I decided as a teenager to leave home I never I've never come back yet you know and she says I went out to stand up as Cruz and that was the life you chilled you take a little weed or more than we eat then you walk with your sandals and it's beautiful and um you know I I got into a different a different lifestyle so she and and and and Simmons heard her and you know and he didn't you know fight fight so he I'm saying here is the girl who grows up in Borough Park and broken goes to base yaakov you know she she obviously knew and she she related to a lot of the things and oh I think she said to him like what are you doing here you know yeah with your beer and he says like like she said like what are you doing here you know like what what are you doing over here this is me and my friends and I left this culture so there is one second unison I I it's it's true but but again remember as we learned this you got to put yourself in their shoes where these guys are coming from and where they're coming from is they don't look at the world this way so the guy was constantly opening their eyes and and trying to convince them through through title not through emotions you know and through hazal and and like where you're coming from you're doing it all wrong yes you're innocent and she moved up today to a two she knows to face your computer um she got a off with a with the third guy okay working for IBM and then I know type of legal I know him yeah he married my ex-wife okay so he used to sit and answering smoke but but I'm going to say that to the you know to to to the Sadiq to come out and was talking about a big Sadiq in Europe in Europe and in that time there still were real application I mean or the real there were people in the system bundes so at that time the culture was talking that they're they're ashamed they want to kill us they they demomish they they they they they laugh at you this guy but that finished that really pretty much finished so so is is he this maybe he'll say it later he doesn't say what I'm just saying that that's finished but that's what it is like that so that when the commander and Hitler writes you know these things that the mitsula is not doing business with them we're talking about people that want to stab you in the back they smile at you and they want us they want to kill you they want to kill you one way or the other they hate you you know but but but but but the Outta who you know lived around the same time or whatever or before the laughter before uh you know it seems like he he had a differentiator even to the commander even though in Tanya he brings in chapter 32 let's not let's learn that chapter when we get up to enriitas he talks about it or show him yeah absolutely in other words you cannot you cannot you know say it doesn't exist it exists in the mission impair the others so it's endless the question is how you explain that so some attackers are Russia don't do business with that like would you do business with someone you know who's doing the Ponzi scheme no you'd stay a mile a hundreds of miles away he's a gun a thief well there are people who spiritually want want to want to destroy you describe I don't have to go into it but but this has been you know with the artist Royal with the the man I mean I mean all kinds it's a lot of pets a lot of a lot of things of of real real vicious wishes to to and and again these people coming from Europe coming from the hater you know like why you know so they make political decisions and then give away children and raise them like going and things like that so that's not it so but but that period is finished so today today it we could say it again we could sing they say no exactly they argue today that they're still being done and that's why they say they will show him and stay away and this is the discussion so it'd be a fallacy on my part not to tell you that it doesn't exist today it does as and and the site the Israel he said she only says whatever the quote was unfortunately unfortunately but but you know about this today today is live you know what happens was saved by a Zionist castler that's acceptable that's acceptable what what what's the story because I don't know the story his answer you know the story I don't know the story but it's a big day and Sapphire basically castner put uh saved a lot of Hungarian Jews by paying for them to get him on the ship and they got out yeah so he was a Jewish person he wasn't religious he was a Russia right and he was a Zionist a bigger Russia and he they put the south barab on the list and he saved his life and today of olive kislip is a day that if he arrived or he was put on the boat they today is a massive celebration a sophomore Curious George Island Williamsburg whatever they make a major soda like we do with you this kiss you know the joke that they say this is the joke that always goes around Borough Park and you know these communities lasted for one day are you This Kiss Live what Bible just say it's supposed to shut up it's the birth of hasidus right her father of Kiss Live the sapna river said remember I told you in in the late 50s we forgot the ways of Sinners that means a her father of kids live like the supper ever was saved he says we forgot the ways to see this and you test Kiss Live the Bible just says no this is the birth of a Sinners so how many days did it last one hoof you test but I have a I have a question yes related to something uh tangentially related yeah maybe for another time yeah um in uh it occurred to me as you were talking that when I was growing up and I was a young person um the uh you know I had so many encounters with Christian missionaries trying to you know very Evangelical here in Israel and in California and in New York and all over so and and it occurred to me I I don't think my kids ever encountered that I don't and I don't know if it's part of their world in the same kind of way I was wondering in one of the and the rep is Hamish at the end of purchase I guess it's precious told us where it has the right before precious told us about your slap where it has the recounting of the duras of uh of Asa it it talks about two names of two kings and if you made a comment I don't remember it exactly but but but uh that in rubbish culture he brings that the idea that that there will be two qualities in the in the uh the gullah's Adam a harder one and a softer one and I and I I just was wondering if if you could expand on that concept let me do this let me look at what it says so which commission are you referring to I can get I can get it and show you the cover it's um somebody in California put it out oh yeah okay okay I know it's called machine okay and and and and uh it's the end of parshus told us but you suck I think at the where it recounts the king so bad though the Kings so there's a graph there's a graph like also or not I don't remember that but I do remember that one of the names of one of the Kings was magadiel magdeal okay so let me uh over shop this a bit I appreciate it I I look at it and and then comment if I have what the comment intelligently yes Maisha is no no no which one um I don't have any to show you but it is yeah it's it's put out I think by Rabbi with zanefsky who lives in your shalayan um and it's uh basically based on the re the rabbi's interpretations of of Russia and all for you know 40 plus years yeah many years yeah it's a blue coverage yeah yeah so so Hilo just just for your information so it's been re when that came out it came out of five separate volumes with that brown cover but today it's all in one large volume with a blue cover because you should know that yeah you can get you can get all five in one cover and actually um I really uh if you really wanna if you really are interested in knowing kind of hasidus from on the Parsha that's the hummus to use the base and the Red Band cities yeah that's it that's it the one that is which one yeah that's it I I didn't see it okay can uh whoever's putting it up just talk talk uh synagogue Edition Citibank Edition he looks the same one as you have but it's just been put into very thin paper and all all in one volume I believe it's the same one that you have he said so I just found what the person is it's it's impossible uh foreign maybe we can discuss it more another time the chief of magdiel but it's the last person yeah yeah okay good and uh so I just uh oh I see what I and now I'm not remembering what I what I was looking for okay okay so let's listen hello okay but it sounds like it'll be something interesting to talk about okay do me a favor take a picture and and what's happened to me could you do that I don't know we'll see how it comes out okay and therefore we can put it on the group and if if we'll discuss I have to see it if it's out of context with what we're learning we'll have to wait but uh I could just answer briefly okay because I do want to you know I want to finish this letter anyway everyone have a great Hanukkah meal great Shabbos and uh we're learning Mr chair Monday great Shabbos and good good job bye bye take care