Zionism #22- Lies, Deceit & Divisiveness in Satmars attack on Chabad of past. now there's peace

Dallas and here starts a new section so to recap what the wio dealt with in the last 10 pages or so from the beginning the nationalism issue that the stock market used Chabad of nationalism rejected not only the accusation but did say that nationalism is um it's krita is uh heresy and he brought support for that but nevertheless it doesn't mean that you should you know hate Jews or people and even the approach towards Zionism should be one with with positivity not negativity and he spoke about that he then also spoke about the argument that the zionists say that it's a scout of the EULA it's the beginning of the EULA and it refuted that and in yesterday's year we learned about the other issue that the the software and Company argue is that the state of Heritage throw of Israel by forming a state it's a violation of the three Oaths and he rejected that that's not he rejected that because it's a halachic issue and and he said that there are halachas that disagreed with the that it's a Prohibition and he brought clearly the uh the citations for that and the third issue is discussed at length in the first letter in the safer and now we're coming to another issue the cause for concern if you're going to tell me in time but if you're going to tell me the Kevin English that Lubavitch doesn't have any connection to Zionism now I I said it yesterday I said it many times but I I can't keep saying it enough Joel is writing this letter to satmer's who accused Lubavitch of certain things so he has to speak he has to write in the language that the the suppers who have made these accusations understand I discussed this with the author of this the not the author the one who put the safer together I called him yesterday and and he agreed I was right he said that's why in other words if if these sophomores don't hear you're writing that Zionism is Kira they'll they'll they'll say they'll discount the whole letter they'll say that means you're not on the same page as us so some of it of joyal's expressions are rather Sharp against Zionism although he doesn't he doesn't disagree with the nakuda but it's all in the spin so he's using the spin of the satmer you understand he's using the way they talk because if he used the way they talk and they think they'll be willing to listen to what he writes and then they'll think about what he writes and they'll see that the Lubavitch an anti-zionism and the sapner is day and night and and looking for the title for your next book what what oh my gosh that's gonna that would that would really uh sell well maybe maybe I gotta think about it I gotta make sure that I don't live in Borough Park I gotta leave borrow Park for that and one side they go there I just roll to Florida I can write spin on soccer but anyway so that's why throughout this letter velvel using some very sharp terms and and ideas very sharp and a kakai asked this Rabbi yesterday why does he have to express himself this way he can make the same point without the the Venom the Venom Venom means the hatred you know what I'm saying it sounds so it's because the sophomore have venom of hatred because they so he has to kind of say I underst I hear your Venom and I can understand your Venom but nevertheless it's two different worlds so this way they will they will identify better with and be willing to listen to what he says and think about it and then say hey I've made a mistake and I want to change my Approach so you have to remember that when you when you read this letter and learn this letter that's where it's coming from in other words I did not hear that ever when he spoke about you know issues in there just wrong I never heard him you know speak this way with such Venom I never I didn't hear that and and most laborious didn't hear that and all the babbages didn't hear that so that's why it's a little shocking for me as a little bobbiter who listened to the rabbit for so many years when he spoke about Eric Israel to read the weight of Joy was writing here and the answer is he's writing it because that's the way they think so he has to kind of get into their mind and it's the lesson for us also when we when we communicate with people if you want communication to be positive and to make a an impact you have to kind of write and speak the way the the one you're trying to impact speaks and writes and nevertheless make your point where he the person will say ah but I got it all wrong I'll give you an example I don't want to say someone do I know who was raised more in the you know the uh not litfish but yeshivish and modern Orthodox for sure type of Direction and and because of certain personal things that happened he he he uh he started to learn to see this and and his eyes opened up and I was thinking about it it's like a person who's 30 40 50. it was raised a certain way when you go to Yeshiva when you live in a community whether it's Teaneck New Jersey or or Williamsburg or Flatbush or bechamish it's so hard to unravel things that you picked up from your parents and grandparents and culture you understand and this is what abuel is trying to do here to unravel these this mishigas that that the satma hasidim picked up and and and and and and and and went around selling it to the to the children and to the students when indeed as you you will see you you would see when you read the first letter that's not what the satbar ever meant it's not what he wrote on and on and on but if you ask an average and you know that like I think any of someone else said though or Issa said yesterday said right so that's the the the the aftermath of of years of hacking a China and that's what I was trying to undo now that's like I said yesterday I don't think he changed he changed it you know the average crater still thinks this way but nevertheless those who are thoughtful um we'll change the thinking and then there's the rest of Judaism in other words there are people today who are not supper who are straight yeshivish literature modern Orthodox and some of them see the point of the satbershita so with such a safer they'll quickly realize that the sheet of the way the sheet has been marketed is ludicrous and wrong and and that's why it's very important for this to be written let's continue so he says Pavilions book so in other words if as I said abuel says that labavage is against Zionism why is there uh um why is there a a lies why is there a no why is why do people in Williamsburg says become Grand in the web of Zionism God forbid out there are ships I will respond to you about this question of yours should quite highly love me and we have this in the past in our history there were Jews who spoke negatively about the Los Angeles before that Allah famous of Jonas knives they spoke heresy against him that is a heretic and bad things foreign right so so so if y'all says you're questioning me but about why sapper speaks negatively about Lubavitch even though the Bible in cheetah in essence also's against Zionism because we've had that already about shampoo I've ended up against the United States and the rambam you can go up every all of time there are people who had an ax to grind and they thought that the the Belgium and the rambam held so and so which is seen therefore they have to come out against it the Hindi call Mike Lakers place up massage every maclake is is due to two reasons Olive who brings people who are Bali Malik is men of um and those that bring argumentation and divisiveness they bring gossip of Lies who they they do this before the great gudalim of that generation and they they gossip lies to the xylem of each generation saying you hear what he said hear what he wrote he's a heretic the game is they also disseminate lies amongst the masses big lies they don't in other words they're big lies they can't say to the dailym because they'll say you're a liar so to them they make up you know little lies and they they they infatuated Sailors were saying they they change the truth you know but to the masses they say outrageous lies foreign such lies that are outrageous that they couldn't say to the Galen so to them they twist the truth number two I was explaining here who are who and how does machlaikus is mcclacus created in the community base the keeper since there was all kinds of ideologies of heresy cheetah Spinoza yamakshimon the sheetah of Spinoza now like you see you see this is your maximum I knew him he never spoke this way I knew him I know minimally I spent hours and hours with the man not just in sheer in his house walking on the street with him he never spoke this way this is not the way a Le babita speaks so how does he write it over here because that's the way the Socrates speak you understand so he wants disciples getting this letter the software is to feel comfortable oh he's on our side he used the word yamasha Mom oh now we can hear what he has to say that's that's what you see in front of you let's continue cut shots shop tight sweet maximum the coat of your of shop take three your maximum afterwards the group called avram The Frankies after that came the enlightenment movement Mendelson visayote started and developed and augmented by a fellow named the Jew named Mendelson moisha mendelsohn and his supporters many more due to the great fear the fear of heresy the Fatal Suffolk when someone came along and cast it out about these individuals being Heretics well that has come of a kamakash when the person said with a surety reciprocity that that it's for sure a lie and it isn't the case that caused right away a fear and for example the the opposition to chapter three and Frank what my favorite is what did they do they put into the entire bag not only Frank and Shop that's me but the balcantov and the beginners and objects and they put him on and said they're all Heretics because they all came up with his Innovations the keeper should all behind me is it foreign and since they saw certain things by the belsanto and by the beginning that outwardly yes yes that has some kind of similarity to chapter 3 and Frank so they said about them their Heretics even though there's an inherent difference between the chapter 3 and Frank and the bullshaptive will have and and and and and the liberating but no ascentive came up and all of a sudden said that an East Pursuit uh you was simple and doesn't know how to learn as a Jew just as much as the great talmouth that was a Kiddush to them that was arrogant to that to them that smelled of Fida police are the next paragraph the same thing is in our case since unfortunately the act of the Satan yes it succeeded that there are Eden that are religious and Orthodox from who have been caught in the web of Zionism just as the mizrachi mix and the agudis foreign they have been caught in the web of Zionism in two ways that believing in nationalism believe in this beginning therefore because Hashem is so when they hear something about the Babbage that smells to them as a similarity to Zionism and so because they're fearful of heresy Racing Car Coal I mean our hooks lovers they say stay away from the garbage in any situation even if it has nothing to do with Zionism because these guys are a rotten apple that idea they listen has been she called out foreign in other words you know what is putting on film with a ye they have to do with Zions nothing no but these guys are suspect and as soon as you put them in the same bag as suspect as the Heretics therefore they're all invalid that's what he says over here well the Dogma continued and for example last paragraph page can you shame instead of Bobby's emphasizes the the saying of the sages even though a Jew sent he's a Jewish every single Jew even a sinner is a Jewish they say sins they are goodness also use this hazardous phrase but they use it to support nationalism so the disciples say ah you are in the goodest who's at Cyanide and they don't make the difference between being a laboratory and our goddess foreign just have some of the idea of nationalism next page even though the Babbage emphasizes in this saying the teaching of the Raza what how does the Bible look at this saying teaching that the essence of Aid is Tater hey to nationalism as we said earlier at Great length so unfortunately the people who are troublemakers they don't go and they they SP they intentionally don't go further to see the difference between the Babbage and and and zionists and they say ah they're using the same phrase as a zionists oh they're using the same there's zionists I what the Bible which means with that say that kazal is the total opposite of internationalism it means that you alphabetes that that a sinner why is a sinner still a jewel because of China not because of nationalism but they don't go they don't make that discern and therefore they say you're all invalid and you're all Heretics well that is there because you know when they hear you that the Bible says and as you said yesterday here that it's forbidden to return the forces because you're endangering lives of Yeadon he nation that ever saw this coming from a source in Aloha nevertheless he stopped me they don't make the the difference it's Zionism zionismosa says don't give back land I've seen them shackles Paulo Cloud that app is not giving back of land there's nothing to do with Zionism the devil always said and I heard it from him hundreds of times he always had heard it too and velvet probably heard it too and that is that he said it's a didn't Shabbos remember Shin memo chapter chapter 3 43 I believe and he quoted the deceived safe base I don't recall exactly where it says that you're not allowed to give if the enemy's coming and there's even a Suffolk that is coming you're not going to give back an inch of land because the representative that ever didn't come to this it's an apology thing it's a Zach no that ever said that this is what the saying is saying is here how can you accuse liberge of being zionists because they don't want to give back land just like the zionists don't want to give back land they don't want to give back land to zionists because it's parts of nationalism the Babbage that ever spoke about not giving back land because it's the halacha it's it's tighter so it's night and day but nevertheless because it outwardly sounds the same thing not giving back land so the stock would say aha you are zionists you hold the same sheep though because disciples say you could give back land and not only to stop but say others say too you know that right so if labavage of that ever said you can't get back land because it's Allah they don't know that they don't care that it's Allah they know one thing you're in the same camp as the team s regarding CEO yes what what time is it it's three or three times okay five moments let's go and it's regarding Zionism I know that's how to the girl of neighborism that there could be a possibility of a beginning to a beginning of messiah's arrival in Ishita the sheet of the rabbi the rebel agrees with the sacrament of the young and Muslim and certain things she does not banished yes they had a disagreement in certain Allah issues in every generation had this agreement in Allah was saying here just as a supper of was against coming from a local perspective that happened too the difference is that certain issues they had a difference of what the hallah is foreign this idea that outwardly labovitch seems to have shared certain things with a good which which he said already is zionistic ated this would not cause the Cyprus to speak so bad about the Babbage since there is an additional thing which is going to say now that's why it spoke so bad what is that among amongst those disciples who are troublemakers bringing our divisiveness into the community lies gas and big lies that never happened they brought false gossip we are going outside based on the software level actually they went and told us do you know what the barbecue says do you know what the rabbit says and some of it unfortunately he bought he listened I remember in 1968 he had a stroke so from and he passed away in 79 and the 70s was really the years where they you know they they they they they attacked Kebab this is coming in the 80s after their venom of the 70s so during that time he wasn't you know as sharp and unfortunately he accepted some of the lies that were brought his attention let me just finish the parent if I'll take your question okay please there is uh an established point to Russian Hera said can you do it this was also said about great but I am a safer person and that's safe enough seven the different amounts of after credit listen to what it says this I remember reading the learning this and it was fascinating but he is closer to the Russian horror there is a a covenant level there is an inborn bris for Russians that lost not just accepted by Regular People Like Us but accepted sometimes even quicker there is kind of uh an inborn inborn think that we find that even the delim accepted Lush and horror because I might see a Malibu commercial Peterson and it was difficult to get that out of their heart like the Amy Camilo says that it refers to who who who was macabo the Russian Hunter the Azalea daughter the leaders in a generation foreign people who were leaders who their Crown brought them back to the soul of Adam and they accepted that's what it says over there in a basement in your base this fact brought to what it brought just like they argued and they gossiped on the billions Nations many more from the the first ideas that your excellent brought himself that if you they did certain things that outwardly you could accuse them and say they were in the heretic camp aign that would not cost yet why spread mahlikers the primaries of the troublemakers so in other words like this interesting point exciting to base 11. that it's a known fact that Sadiq unfortunately sometimes accept magrikas and it's a weird thing but you know I gave you I gave you the rational justification the sacrament was a sick for 11 years so he didn't have to pay us to investigate into fight so he he shook his head to many things you know what I'm saying but if y'all was saying listen it's yadura that gudalim and Sadiq him that are plugged in to Greatness except yes yes you wanted to say something Birds we got builted with eggs yep everybody came back with a slime 1970 1977 sorry yeah the last time we went to Williamsburg yeah yeah okay any questions for anyone have or we'll uh just uh continue tomorrow and finish this section it just seems to be very very hard for us that they step because it's very difficult to understand that I I agree with you but listen okay not everyone says that this is cited from you know I'm not I'm not going to go tell you that every rub and every Rabbi and every God on every you know agree to that okay exciting here from this particular source saying in other words if you ask yourself a question how is it that a person like the sacrament this is why these fools excuse me don't understand he has so much their Heritage for the Sacramento of the sacrament and he's saying so if that's the case how can he believe all these lies that they made up about with garbage that their Heretics and they're not they don't keep Shabbos and they trade you can't imagine the stupidity you can't imagine okay about the Reba and about the rabbits and you know they it's like childish in a way but they said it and they publicized it so if you're always saying unfortunately there is this issue where Thailand you know accept is Gossip it's not like they're looking for the gossip they're going to see don't you understand it's not that but if you know if you come and sit down with the love and two elderly people come and they explain and they say and they show and uh yeah yeah what's this happening you know like a guy and a guy who makes you a dick okay right but but like as I told you Anderson he had a stroke in 1968. and therefore his ability and interest to make investigations did not he accepted a lot of things and there's another thing you have to understand that's number one fit right is physical mind was already you know uh impacted already had issues with the Babbage let's say with shazar president shazar became the president they called him the nosy the rabbit called him anosi so he had an ax to grind with the rabbit he had you know first of all with in the late 50s early 60s he he came up with this idea that the hasidus and about shamta if we forgot we don't know what the derivative incentive is and the rebel riled against him now in the rabbit but the rabbit spoke you know in the way of Chabad to hasidim and explained that the square rabbit and other it's an outrageous you're telling us that we forgot what the placenta wanted so why are we understandable why are we wearing peers why are we doing considered Customs the rapper he said you know so that was one and he didn't maybe mean what he meant what he said but he did say it and it caught it caused it uproar and who was his main antagonist the lab then came 63 when shazar became the president and the Reba congratulated him he almost dropped it he what a lot of covered and he almost had a heart attack from damage right there it was like outrageous to him that the Obama was such a great and everything goes and honors a Zionist so so the trajectory was there that he had certain you know but he would never say the things that that his cassidam said later in the 70s and he didn't even feel that way you understand he felt that why are you honoring a Zionist you know what I'm saying but they went a step further they said the fact that you're on him design means you're a Zionist that means whatever you do is zionistic he never said that he never said it but but the fact that he did say that why you honoring the Zionist and he was perturbed about that already gave this has see them room to take the ball and go with it you understand and that's what happened okay I understand okay first taste first things clear avram you got it you understand what I what you understand I I I assume this I assume this is a whole new uh a whole new partial for you a whole new uh you never really knew much about this is yeah anyway I hope you're I hope you're I hope you're benefiting that's what you guys wanted to learn I would learn my motto say this but whatever okay see everyone tomorrow zygons don't enjoy bye bye