Zionism #21- Jews shouldn't Rebell against Gentiles has multiple meanings, different than Satmar R

okay we're learning now do you gotta say you get a minus call come on page test and here you see the heading is about the Easter gimmel Schwarz the prohibition of three Oaths that Hashem made with with with us and um the uh supper shita and others like them the turakata ETC believe that by Earth's roll becoming a state and things like that they are violating these three shoes I just want just to before we go into the text turn back in the same say for the page has say you know you should know what we're talking about okay to go to page has and um look at the last paragraph the okay okay the last part of the page press it says think for yourself look at look into it yourself this is the reference they're referring to just so you should know where they're where it is at the end of the track they had October's 111 a folio a new enumerates not three but six Olive the Jews should not Eden should not go onto a wall and try to escape from golus from their ghosts be that base um they shouldn't rebel against the going in in other words even if they aren't getting getting out through the wall over the wall there'll be a rebellion you shouldn't do that either gimmo um that going um should not should not um you know pressure eaten more than more than a usual without commentary for a moment case no Jews should reveal the end of times five hey according to another way of looking at it there's two things this being magala revealing what mashiach will come and then there is doing things to pressure mashiach to come you shouldn't do that and finally the sixth thing is even if you know the secret to when mashiach is going to come don't reveal it to the game so so IL in in explains and again you have to learn the first letter which we're not doing now he explains basically that when when the shot was referred to the three shruels he says number one there are six okay and he says they don't even know they're six but the supper of no and he focused on three out of the six and in in in the continuation of this letter of the um page Crescent going on and all that Tess he he you know he's he asked questions why are you choosing like a few of the of the first and a few of the seconds three and three um but that's for another time so the but what I wanted you to see is basically the three shorts are and uh they shouldn't go on the wall get out don't we shouldn't go on the wall and get out we shouldn't rebel against and and the third one usually yeah actually establutely slow they either shouldn't be very pressured now that that's a question that he asked so so he an oath is made to the Jews not to the goliaths what do you mean the Glam should oppressor but with the not going into that right now the point being these are three shorts and uh we are already explained in this first section that they're not an Ike and a Munda they're not one of the 13 principles so to go and say that it's it's it's an isser it's it's an issue no it's it's you're following the morale and the shita here and the shita there again this idea following met roshim I got to um morale and he says it's so nice but when you go and say an insert when you go and say it's forbidden and it's forbidden and I'll tell you that you're mixing up apples and oranges so now let's go back to kuftes the pagecoof test Voice who in yourself the idea of the Game of Thrones is an idea of hello not like the first two ideas which is an idea of emuna in other words he's referring to nationalism and the idea of Carlos that's that touches upon emuna as we explained that length now he says we're going to look for a moment at the at the at the argument that there's a violation of three um of the of the three Schwarz so this they want to argue is an arc is a violation of hello okay I need you to understand the difference between and moon is faith it's not hot it's very very important but it's so now he's saying we already dealt and showed that in in the issue of emuna how they have it wrong as we explained until now now it says includes that as well right yes yes and and now he says let's look at the idea that they're saying that through the state of emergency it's a violation of of the of the gimbush for us it's not necessary to elaborate the game his beetle the Indian will show us the lake are going to those that dealt with the the three sure in a different way than the Sacramento saw it a rabbi a person known as marchak be brought from the city of broad Sev he writes who is through him that the three Oaths are dependent one on the other name just like two that make an oath and they're dependent one on the other because so when the going desecrate the the Israel foreign in other words this is what they argue if the goyam are pressuring the Eden more than they're supposed to that means they violated their sure so then you too can violate this rule that's the way the marshak sees it which is not the way the Sacramento sees it but you know brings it just to show us that there isn't just one way of interpreting the three shrews that's his point so for you know for you God he's saying you're leading uh June was astray by saying this this is the only way to look at the gimbal through us and again because we're dealing here based on you know gamotism and Russia and Morales anyone can straight can kind of not anyone but you could interpret in different ways because it's not Crystal Clear yes I want to just understand I've heard it said I don't know if this is a fair adaptation or not that the uh the opinion of satmer is that the the cause of the Holocaust was was the Zionist movement sort of Zionist yeah you know if that's a fair assertation or not but yeah it's what it's it's the supper of Saturday yes it contributed okay to him yes it is is it based upon this the the idea that they were murrayed against the the uh um that they were breaking the shavua of the of the uh this Shore that we've been talk about yeah because the the Balfour you know the from when the Zionism started with Hertz and all that the trajectory was breaking of the shua were trying to get out of the great we're trying to be not under the Sheep but of going yes and Andy would you say that um that the the shita of satma would be uh would be that that the genocide of the of the Holocaust was a pre was it was oppressing the the the Jewish the Jewish people too much according to their approach I'm just trying to understand all the elements um I I'm not sure I hear what you're asking it's a good a good question I don't know I I think that they they they they looked at the Holocaust as a retribution for the violation of the gimbal source a punishment yeah okay as far as well but I I hear your your twist uh I don't know maybe it'll come up let's go further now we're in the in the parentheses in the first paragraph but by the way he says that assumption these things are written there is printed 200 years ago and it gives you the citation page 174 Ahmad the fourth side of the page ah foreign this is when the glium don't give you permission and you Force you forcibly climbed the wall Minnesota says this does not mean that your application you're not up because God forbid says he writes the suffix of it this is the child and in other words okay we have a short now the question is if this particular thing of violation of the true or not has nothing to do with Google supper arguing that this is a violation of giula the whole giulus should not be will not come about from us pressuring the to let us go and do things to rebel against says that the Shaka Chandra he quotes the sucker Chava says it's not an idea it's not it doesn't fall under the category of of it falls under the category oh so it doesn't fall under the carry of rather Allah had the issue of what is and what are the details of the shua Mercy has come of a Commodities you'll see many details what is considered the show what's not considered Etc came to be the gun but the galing is there the soccer team says Also regarding our thing so basically he's bringing this paragraph opposing views how to learn the Gamora in subas so he wants the reader to know that just because the supper of and their and and he learned it one way doesn't mean you can't learn it another way is known to everybody is the prohibition of not going up on the wall and not rebelling against the glory Medina it's also now in regard to the establishment of the state the late afternoon says doesn't follow the the the the the way the mashaq and the abdene explain it is the same one as the soccer I believe eligible writes he feels that after you understand Joel is using the satma language you know I knew him he wouldn't he he wasn't talking right this way he's saying you guys considered it so he writes it you know he wants the the reader the one he's writing it to to accept and and and and be open enough to delve into it so he says in other words you guys consider this at Sarah so he writes it you understand says using that type of language that's what I think he says after this Sarah this problem Rose that is the Medina of the the state and then Sawyer and there are thousands of Jews so today but this is he's explaining to Bible and an obligation to protect the Jews and you have to protect them in natural ways or commercial Crown Heights just as in Crown Heights Orville Williamsburg and in Williamsburg Visa yeshuvia Israel and other establishments of Jewish communities which are outside of heritage you're obligated to protect the Jews in Crown Heights and Williamsburg and other communities from those that hate the Jews you have to have normal ways of of guarding you know all those organizations and are part of the the natural way to protect the community not because guys don't have what to do on the board of learning stick they start hanging around you know shame at them and they have cars and they're switzers you know I'm sure you have an extra stroke too he says no uh hold on I'm coming up it says no he says because the able state in the state it says shame save my you know how to rely on a miracle so put up your cameras protect your house your alarm system get a shmita service and and that's Teva that's what Hashem wants The Establishment was Pro in a prohibited way that's what they argue when we came in and since according to the Natural means of things and you all know not everyone agreed with this but this was yes innocent because I'm a devil when I was a crowned huts and there's a life something Samira came to Crown height to help protect do you know this yes remember that you know it's like as long as it doesn't involve the Medina everything is kosher you know that's their problem in Israel and that's Israel you know here that's the way life is you know out of out of sight out of mind the random right you know that expression okay perhaps yes yes um is uh according to the the this whole idea of uh of the gimbal shuos is there enough Kamina in that cheetah that um that the that the United Nations uh made a partition and and decreed a state of Israel does that make any difference in that from nations of the world right so I again I'm not a Bucky in this but my my understanding is they're arguing that that itself was prohibited it was brought about because the Jews pressured the Goliath and you're not a lot of pressure should they liberate they're they're saying that the fact that it got the United Nations to do it it came because of us Jews soliciting and convincing and pressuring and you know how to do that okay yeah next part of less paragon-based cook class es we talked for and although the oath that you're not allowed to rebel against exists now in its full force so soil is not so how does the river this is what he's about to explain so how does that ever justify taking care of Heritage Road it's this idea of protecting the Jews doesn't fall under the oath of nothing do not Rebellion is it's the shore of the of of that we Jews should not rebel against the Graham is specifically when the Glam say something Stam playing without you know that's not that's not relevant to your misters listen to them so two in our situation since the returning of land will bring to stranger Hari Marshall um so the argument that the going say returned the land who shall aim themselves because are at demanding of us that we do we we endanger people that's what the foreign to violate amitsa you're never allowed to listen to a guy to violate a mitzvah whether it's Hill Shabbos or whether it's uh the situation that we're discussing here returning land foreign the third oath beside the oath of not rebelling against is a separate issue in other words if God wants your grace to put up street signs or to put up and you go and you violate the law that's a violation there's nothing there's nothing prohibited about putting up signs on the street right they decide and and we have this that's that's what we have Congress and a senate the Republicans and the guns and myself what that they decide laws but if if a law might say if a law is passed that violates a Jew you have no obligation that's for example for example there's a big debate now as you all know I don't know if it's not so but here in America of of making the changing it should be daylight savings time I think throughout the year now and and it it it looks that it might pass if that's the case when we'll be able to dive in those that you know a mock pit not till 8 39 o'clock will be the the earliest time of of the nature well people already on the road and people have to be in their offices nine o'clock so that law touches upon so technically we don't have to listen to that now understandably you know we're going to listen and we're going to do what we have to which is we have permission to die but Dominion I didn't have one there but I heard of him this morning at the first million which stoppens a half an hour before you know the the they call it the Terex minion I told you that right Abraham's father's name is Tara so the Judaism begins with avram but then you got tarach the father of her brother so Terrace minion begins even a half an hour before right so for the human it's fine I can I can hear Kardashian kadusha because to get to the sheer now that the Nate is getting later I have to go out early and I want to hear the human the point being that we have to follow and do what what Tata says so right so this issue is an issue of daylight saving that touches upon you don't have to listen again I'm sure they're gonna listen because that's the way it is I mean what are you gonna do you're gonna make a rebellion and say Jews are not keeping daylight saving time maybe like like you know it's not gonna work but but it's the code there is that the violation the the the the the prohibition the third prohibition is about stop things that don't you know uh pedestrian the the here in New York I was in Brooklyn here with the the bikes the bike lanes they've taken away parking they've taken away the it you know okay they feel that people want to do bikes and it it saves gas you know that's their rationale so if you go and rebel against that that's kind of a violation of going against the game because there's no law and there's no that you're not allowed to have a bike lane right so that's what Joel's saying here the giving back of land the stroke him because the sacrament argued that as well since you took it without permission and you had no right to take it give it back if they want it The Bureau says you're endangering the Jew because so it's a Mitzvah you're not allowed to listen to that and it's not a violation of the of the probe of the of the the of the shua let's finish the last paragraph on top of Youth is this yeah very briefly is right up is a case I won't elaborate now since this is a Halal issue and this letter is about a scuffle fractionally Nelly me many and since I I am I'm well aware of the Sacramento he holds it is to put my head basically between the two big mountains referring to the red by the soccer ever you know nevertheless there almost what exactly is the idea of rebellion against Nations veins and it's not relevant to scoffer or an end open gailing you know Scarface as far as haschakoff is concerned that's some Horizons the the the the very ideas of Tiana's whether it be regarding nationalism I already addressed that before that he he battles he he opposes it's a Uranus and that's what he's trying to do here he's trying to show the software you think that your reposes to you there's this little baba but you never who loves every Jewel and and and and and sends look him and people to set up nevertheless the sheet of to join us is very much against it but the way that there ever uses his approach he came it's not positive way by explaining what the truth of in the essence of a Jew is like there's a Miss bottles and automatically the idea of nationalism before aside ideas explains what is the true idea of his battle the mail automatically the idea of the um Falls aside and as he said earlier as well saying in other words stress the positive and don't stress the negative and I can tell you from you know growing up with the ribbon and learning is Tyrant being at the fabrangas this was the case I never I never you know I should say I never heard him you know like you know it's evil things like that he didn't speak that way and he didn't think that way you know yeah there's a there's an issue that that was done and it's not not proper and but let us let us focus and you can get so much more with positivity look one more point then here she'll take you know I think it was the previous prime minister the the one the guy the guys from I think he said at one time that the Rasha there are shabs anti-zionism doesn't exist any longer in Chabad I think he said that in the last two years so you know not that he understood what there are shops of opposition was because he didn't he didn't you know learn it he didn't understand it I I don't think you know but but the word on the street is the Rashad was against him so he said that that entities doesn't it doesn't exist yes yes sir every day on the way home from work I passed what I don't hear you what happened you got cut off hello yes sir Mr your your muted your commute off and and say it again I don't know uh is there I can't hear you it's a problem with my microphone can you hear me now yeah yeah every day on the way home from work I work in bed I pass graffiti that says yeah okay what's new what's new what's new Under the Sun yes right listen you know to me this whole discussion and this you know is is you're not going to change these these softwares you know you but the the the keepers through God you know Mecca saraf those are people that are intelligent that you could you know discuss I just this in uh one of them uh came into shoe and I saw him dabbing and you know with the cavunders and yet he has keep us through God I gave him alaikum and he told me he's here for a wedding uh here for shabbatonin why you they talk to the boys about coming to charlotteville and I started to speak to him about this and you know he heard me and I and I asked them things that we were discussing if he has you know and he said he really is not you know and then he but then he turned to me he said to me the nice way what's the difference in in other words you can have a discussion you can have discussion you know you can ask this question and uh that's it that's it you know yes Maisha yeah I think on that note it's interesting when you were just saying that now you're just reminding me that you know when we talk about issue we talk about safety of Jews so you know it's that America's um entire like you know movement that you call it and they're out in you know yeshuvim in our deepest from around deep and deep in you know the end Chevron and you're talking about people who have been most in that fish and the fact the matter is is because they're there it really provides tremendous amount of security for the rest of us who are living like in ramaphress on the on you know on the outskirts and because they're there in a very real way in a very real way there's a tremendous amount of security that we all benefit from right and and that's why pointing fingers it's not that's not it's wrong and what you said it's true and and nevertheless you know learning and discussing is is a good thing and that's all uh that happened that Abbott didn't we don't find that that ever push people to live in those places by the way some chabotniks try saying that but it's it's not true but nevertheless once aid went to live there what's the question that ever never told them leave who told you to go there and endanger yourself never you I he never said that either so you know yes Johnny and then yeah because I have to go already yeah yeah so no I remember when I was a baker and Yeshiva here in Israel there used to be signs all over the place the river says you can't be without there on one piece of land you can't give back land for peace it was like uh the whole thing and I understand where the base is yeah now you understand oh and and you know you're safe and others they didn't agree you know it was an ongoing issue yes you're innocent and it was a whole question didn't uh in the monsters or people in America whether to take money from the two women or not yeah that's another issue that's another yeah don't don't take money but don't complain when your garbage is not picked up and it smells in the streets would come and give out money to to connect yeah yeah it's it's an old parship anyway we'll see everyone tomorrow bye bye bye bye take care thank you okay