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Zionism #13-Is Religious Zionism included in Chabad's opposition? R' Look & Chabad
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okay
um good morning good day we're on page
Olive in the safe of
igarus Base
the topic The Heading of this section is
called
the idea of nationality
now over Shabbos I had a chance to take
out the rambam
to learn the rambam that the bureau
cites here to discuss it with someone
who wrote a safe who wrote a safer on
the rambam for him on the rambam
clarifying the rambam and um I'm not
going to go into all the details just to
tell you that it's worth
at your leisure to take out gershin
uh it's it's the book of nation this is
where you'll find the book of nation the
laws of Gershon chapter 2.
I forget what paragraph you'll find over
there I think might be paragraph eight
or nine you'll find over there that one
of the oil sites over here which the
rebel quoted thousands of times that
um a a Jew really wants to do the will
of Hashem and therefore if he gives a
get
um being forced to give a get
and for that matter if abesden appoints
a guy or to force the Jew to give
a get it's a good get
whereas if if a Jew on his own hires a
guy
without the best in adjudicating that
that's what should be done it's not a
good get one more point that um that I
learned in clarifying the halach is that
the difference between a get puzzle an
invalid get and a get bottle
but yet bottle means um The
Nullification of a jet
and the rambam
suddenly
addresses it that a um the um get bottle
means that
midarisa biblically it's not a good get
for whatever reason as he enumerates
over there whereas a get puzzle I think
this is the difference
get personalism with the rice is good
only with the Rapunzel it's no good so
anyway these details are there but but
as far as the point that's relevant to
what we're learning here it's it's the
it's the main point that if a yid is
forced to give a get
and and the rambam says why because
the only reason he didn't want to give
to get is because his Yates got to him
so when you give him a few Clap the
yatesahara
keeps quiet and backs off and then his
inner real self
comes out which is to give a get because
now it's wanted to give a gift and
clearly by the way I think someone asked
last week and the rambam says in the
beginning we're talking in a case when
how logically it's it's validated to
give a guess for example
if you didn't have children in 10 years
how lovely the husband can give a gift
doesn't have to to the wife
right
and and and and
uh other of other situations like that
you know where heroically it's it's
warranted that to give a gift but if not
that's a whole different situation
so the the as it's relevant to our
discussion here Abigail says look at the
difference between the deed who gives
who who doesn't want to give a get that
is forced to give a get it's still a
good get whereas if if if if if Aid
hires
a guy on his own it's not a good gift
whether it's the iso is that abundant or
whatever those are details but it's not
a good get why because then it's not
coming with anemia it's not sure it's
not coming from his inner thing he had
it's a bit it's a business deal if the
wife goes
and hires are going without the
permission of the best then it's not a
good gift
and and the rambam says and they say
Kalin the commentaries and that I'm
gonna say it's a very simple logic this
way everyone will go and hire a woman
wants out I want out what am I gonna do
I'm gonna get a a zlub I'm gonna get a
Buffon I'm gonna get a uh you know a
bouncer and the bouncer will go and say
you don't you don't do this uh your your
legs will be chopped off
we won't have the civility
so that's why that's not a good get
and that's not premium
but we're talking about in the case when
Besson says yes you should give a gift
this is that there's a reason yes and
you don't want to give a get then then
we could force you because that's really
Panini it's not sure yes he live
is it um part of the den that the um
that the husband has to know that those
are slook of a faced in absolutely
it's not like announced like uh the like
the Miranda law or something you know
yeah yeah yeah otherwise it's it's
missing in in Das and yeah absolutely
yeah that's what I thought yeah okay so
now let's go to page
and we're the third the second paragraph
it's towards the bottom of the page okay
foreign
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even though
he committed yeah
I'm sorry forgive me forever
correct me if I'm wrong but I think
actually we finished on Thursday
very very bottom and couth
noof no zero dollars
I think we learned it but I don't mind
going back let's go back to the bottom
of course
here it is yes sir maybe this is what he
read and he went nuts this is the Mr
China of the Miss rockinix and the
agudas the Peters they take this phrase
this result of a peace
they take this phrase even though he
sinned is still a Jew
ish they want to prove now on top of
they compare it to the essence of a
Russian and at sarfati has nothing to do
with religion
says
when he brought an interpreted explained
this
what is the idea of Aid question
his connection to Taylor you can't
separate are you from data what is the
the essence of ayed Tatum
as we find in the swarim she is
what's the acronym of the word Israel
foreign
which means there are 600 000 letters in
the data
so who is a Israel who is a yeet someone
who connects and lives and desires and
knows that what is he or she six hundred
thousand Isis letters of the Torah
and if that's not who you are
that's not something that you you
believe in then you're technically
you're slow but in in concept you're not
a Jew
you're you're a nationalist you're a
Russian you're you're a Frenchie
and you're a Jew
but has nothing to do with Taylor
but therefore there's no Holiness to you
let's continue
so what's the meaning
that even someone who did a sin He Still
Remains a Jew
ish
it's not that he remains a Jew because
of a sidebar because
as they are good to say
yes
he remains a Jew because he's connected
to Taylor
who writes call me because the in the
depth of his heart he wants to know him
off
next paragraph
Yes the the the publicity of this idea
in explaining the
Hazardous
not that God forbid it has any
comparison to the idea to the shita of
nationalism of the tianim of the
contrary
in other words we have a gazelle Alpha
Peach Israel who so the rapper says that
is the total opposite the way we from
the beginning explained look at it it's
the total opposite and contrary to the
shita to the way that the to uranium
learned Damon you're uh you're a yeet
even though you sinned and why because
nationalism makes you eat and abuel says
that's that's Hape of the Platinum the
name of the river and that it's a Hape
of the shot in in the Ghazal because I
was saying Alpha p
even though all you sinned Israel who in
other words so how do you become in
other words the hate the Avera the sin
that cannot remove you from being the
Israel But first you have to be a Israel
Israel
not having a flag
and not having to tell you
that that's what makes you a Jew what
makes your Jewish tighter
remember was it was there referring to
religious Zionism yes of course of
course he's not refreshing sake
this this whole country is apparently to
Zionism is that about secular zionists
no no because a lot of what what he's
saying makes sense what if you if you're
talking about secular Zionism the whole
point was for them to replace the yid
with an Israeli I mean like what he's
saying he's saying the Russian is the
Russian the Frenchman the Israeli is
instead of the eight but I don't I don't
know if religious dying that they're
saying that
maybe today they're not saying it but
they did say it in 1880 and in 1920.
and and it's spilled over absolutely
it's in 1948 the Senate please everyone
everyone that that would they didn't
they didn't say they don't they didn't
say you have to not excuse me they
didn't say you shouldn't put on film no
one said you shouldn't put on film
but the question is what establishes you
as a Jew
so the sheet of Zionism
which you know started with the
secularists well actually and it was
supported by from rap on them like I
told you Maisha got excited about the
Epstein bought property daddy you're
talking about him
this was all up all across most you know
most
were for Zionism
there was the exception was there was
one or two or three rabbanimous that
said no the Rashad Was Won
the the moon catcher was another
you know and and a few others but most
the and so so so servio is taking apart
is taking apart
it's not saying here you shouldn't live
in there this Israel not so old enough
conditions not saying he's saying what
is your drive what is the sheet over
here
now this the sophomore you know they no
they they they focusing on it and they
throw out the whole thing
you understand
and if y'all saying this you gotta
discern between the shita
and the practicality and to go and say
that
has the sheet of the Zionism is pushing
the line it's not true
so therefore he has to show
that that's the case and of course like
it's just said before this year started
some of you weren't on mostly weren't on
he gave the safer to him to a strong
Zionist and he like spitted the book and
when he opened it up he saw something
because it speaks against Zionism
religious Zionism
so this is a double-edged sword this is
not that's why I told you from the
beginning you know they pick it up oh
he's speaking against the software he's
speaking just a month against the
zionists to release zionists
and that's why it's a very sensitive
issue but
therefore you take the safer you learn
it
you you remove yourself emotionally very
hard to do but that's what needs to be
done and then you think about it and
then come to your conclusion it is right
it isn't right
but the the reaction that that is a
share it seems to me a very emotional
reaction I open a page or two I see he
says something I didn't read with before
what's after
terrible he's a nut
they could read the entire build up do
you understand every detail what he's
saying then you still disagree that's
tighter you're allowed to disagree
and you know any we know that they
there's a disagreement
we know that religious Zionism argues
otherwise
that the oil is challenging that
argument
he's saying that if you go down to the
core of the argument
nationalism
is is it is not the cause for being
Jewish
yes sir
yeah I just I'm not uh you know right
anyways a Bucky and like around cook but
I find it hard to believe that Rob cook
would say being a nationalist makes you
Jewish
he knows what makes a aid and and uh
I don't see this you know I would need
to see more a historical record that
this is what the you know the religious
zionists really believe oh okay you live
in there it's Israel You're a good not
that you know it's a process but
I I can't see like a Rob cook right well
again I can't I can't I can't cite for
you right now look at this page but it's
it's known that the
right wing Orthodox from yeshivish
hasidish world
Bank of cook shita that that's no that's
not me telling you a hiddish you know
that right I'll give you an example
Rabbi hutner who you know of high Berlin
you're in his uh
black uh dark
Yeshiva
he was related to rough cook
and this I have in writing and I've
written about it but I found the sources
in his first save for the cable
there's a huskama
cook
a cook gave him a scum up not on a safe
apocal you took as a safe and
Nas or something I forget the name now
that he wrote when he was a young man
and it was
it was blown away
it was a big time of coffee
they took it out and the second printing
they removed the huskama from of cook
number two
and this I heard from people who were
there not telling you when my side hurts
in Asuka in his sukkah in Brownsville
he had a picture
of the rough cook and I think of the
balotanya
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a few years later the picture of cook
was gone
and it wasn't vandals who ripped it down
you know the pressure of of the Isla
Matera that was was being developed in
American Heritage thrill it wasn't
popular
so the people you know probably said hey
look you know you want to score points
we want to be recognized we want to be a
Mainstay Yeshiva you know put the rough
cook in in the in the bag just put in
the bag and one more point I'll tell you
and again I didn't see this but this you
can ask anyone they should know it and
that is that they they say that if Cook
said
someone who plows and and and and and
and
plants the land of Heritage Israel is as
holy as someone who sits and base Madras
or in a clingable
you've heard that or never heard that
that that I that I heard you know from
childhood again did he say it when did
he say it how do you say I don't know
so what I'm saying
it's not that rough cooked that he he
didn't know what time it is I eat this
title of course he did he's talking
about that uh Grayson mention a big
person
the the question is
analyzing here is what is
in other words like this ifraph cook is
saying when you plant the the Earth
the planting of the Earth as a yeet
because the taina tells you to plant the
Earth
that's fine the bureau is not arguing of
that the dev is not argue on that
the question is if you're you're saying
no just by planting the Earth
you're a Jew
and you're saying if sir that it's hard
for you to believe that RAF cook would
argue that and I understand
cook would be saying
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that they're doing them with they're
fulfilling a Mitzvah okay they don't
have the kavana that they're fulfilling
them okay okay and and it could and it
could and if that's it it's my team
no problem
but for some reason and again when he
wrote it I don't know what was going on
in Miss Rocky at the time I don't know
what's going on not good at the time it
seems like at that time there still was
a lingering of a of AKA a jewishness
that that didn't require total
commitment to Toyota and that's what
he's objecting to listen
we're all benefactors of of Chabad and
the rivers Outreach and all that Etc one
way the other right so so if anyone
loved the Jew the lab should ever loved
the Jew and this same Obama
have big issues with Zionism
how do you in other words and we're
going to see in a moment let's say the
river Asha the fifth rabbit of show and
Bear
everyone says oh he was such an
anti-zionist and that's why disciples
say we like that Lambada if the days of
Barbara would have been like the rashab
we would all go to him and they're
always saying I will remember the supper
rabbit said there was one man that he
regrets never meaning which he wanted
what she would have wanted to meet was
the rabbi rashab and why because she's
so Vigilant against the zionists and he
was
and you look at his letters you you
close your eyes
because of what was going on in Russia
in 19 you know tens and twenties in
those times so they say to that they say
the rabbit you
should follow in your
ancestors steps and since you're not
you're not The Real McCoy you're you're
giving in you know what if y'all's gonna
show over here the Rabbit doesn't give
in he never gave in
and trust me
he had a big problem with the zionists
just like the software and more yes
moisture you wanted to say something
it is important to
think it's important to clarify
um something which is somebody the only
history brought up I think if we look at
today at the mainstream religious
Zionist Camp which is quite a range of
let's say just level of observance I
mean somewhere you know from more modern
to all the ways that are like the
Mercado Rob that are extremely serious
religiously I think today we look today
uh
religion anybody any any of any Electric
Authority in the window
uh you know
would would say it's obvious that a
person is Jewish you know from a Jewish
mother or a lot of conversion Etc in
other words
yeah that's an insane you know just I
got it because yeah okay
um
you know and I think that that being
said I think it's important to look
specifically that today
the difference the differences are
getting blurred you know than what they
what they were like what you're saying
1880 1920 and I think today the main
issue what from at least from what I
have seen
is that in a religious Zionist World
there is an emphasis on number one
politically
whether or not it's an actual Mitzvah
now to live in Earth
to live in Arkansas as opposed to
but so we'll say in the midst of a shoot
if you wanted to say that yeah
and then and then and then following
that and I think this is really where
the mainstream was called
World Etc as a problem that there's such
an emphasis on living in Earth's thrill
that it basically is basically there's a
service an Unwritten an Unwritten code
that says you have to come true
we all know that the redness said that
obviously obviously knew the the Beauty
and the kashiba is very distroll more
than
if they make almost more than anybody
but we know that the Reba's attitude was
no a Jew good I think Mr said this
earlier that a Jew
goes where he could make an impact
and
um
you know I'm just bringing them just
sharing them just saying this over
because I think it's so critical to look
at what is what is the issue let's say
now you know today in other words
secular Zionism to the political Zionism
we're not talking about that we're not
talking about that
it's a big brother the reason I'm just
mentioning that is because when we talk
about the issue of let's say a person
just simply living there and just throw
you know and then that makes him a Jew
the religious Zionism
religious Zionism doesn't say that
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said that I'm just saying that today we
know that second of Zionism is like
right
um anyway
um I yeah I I believe I addressed your
points when into is there that if that's
the sheet of the day
it's uh online we're just discussing the
idea that that you know that's it it is
what it is so
if that's the sheet of religious Zionism
today it's not a problem
a problem it just seems to heat from to
me from here that in 1980s when this was
written the bureau felt that there still
the misrahi and they are good as certain
ones were were still of not that opinion
that that's all I could say I I don't
know the inner makings and it's 40 years
later yes sir
this question just brings up memories of
conversations that I would have when I
was living in the United States in a
very modern Orthodox community and the
state of Israel were doing many things
which were contrary to halacha and I
would ask
my religious Zionist friends what takes
precedence
or the good of this
the good of the state and they could not
cancer on the side of the code
how can you justify moving equipment out
Shabbos because you don't want to come
okay
right so so much of that that's that's
your answer you know whatever if that
changed I mean listen my my wife's uncle
Rabbi Magnus is a main in yeshivas
Marcus and Rob and he's a tremendous you
know
and you know and I have and three
quarters of a classic I'm just saying
I you know but but is there you know you
know again is there to to be fair
um you say religious zionists you know
there's that modern element of religious
I'm of Teaneck New Jersey you know what
I'm saying that's one or the five towns
that today Five Towns already is more
right wing certain ones but
yeah yeah it is let's learn a little
more inside do we have a time I don't
know what time is it now I don't know
what time
okay a few more minutes so we're in the
second paragraph
um
says no connection whatsoever with the
nationalism of the Zionism
this idea is the is the total opposite
and it's a it's a war against
someone doesn't have any brains in his
head
um
and he sees everything very
superficially
they could bad mouth Lubavitch
the bad mouth of Polish in this
one breath in this in the same breath
but
what's the difference between the Bible
they say the same thing
with him that also Sinners of Israel are
Jews
um and therefore they're totally
disregarding Toyota being the icker a
foreign
they give strength to Zionism
now I know this is not popular today in
most Chabad houses trust me
if they see this they're gonna cover
their head an embarrassment nothing to
be embarrassed about
is negative
finished that there's no there's no
there's no Grace very black and white
now you know you wanna doesn't mean you
shouldn't live in Texas at all you
should
by the way I told you this is worth
mentioning again Not only was the rabba
rabbi salvation
who is the father figure of why you and
everything else right right
when Rabbi when Rabbi um from a frat no
the road
grab every skin Rabbi Riskin came to his
rabbit Rabbi salvation he says Rabbi I'm
making Aliyah I want to make Aaliyah do
you give me your brother he said no
he says we need you here where are you
running away
after he told them and this and that he
said go or or maybe even told him go to
the Barbara ask him I forgot it's
written up and risking himself tells the
story
my point is that this isn't just a
Chabad thing this was a certain sheet
whether it was brisk or it was elevation
all the Babbage of the you know that
that that again and let me say this
and and this maybe we'll support what
moisha said though
if the Zionism is the way maybe it is
today in the religious camps both
salivation and the river wouldn't have a
problem with it
but that's the question
I didn't mention this
where you said like in the tequila like
the
feel of the The Limousines Israel the
the it's like the it's like this
okay okay that's for sure the races go
to say to for sure
but I'm saying if it's the Zionism that
is mentioned before they would have a
problem with if it's the Zionism that
you spoke about Maisha forget about the
racial School of Satan because that's
that they both could have a problem with
at all times never said no question
about it because that's that's negative
but I'm saying take that issue away from
me that's the beginning of redemption
if there's a religious lifestyle that's
you that's your my behind that's your
perspective
let me just finish the paragraph
so it says
when you look carefully you see that
Buddha support Zionism
what do you tell the Jew Israel
even though he sent his a jeweler by his
personality without explaining what we
said earlier in Yiddish
means it resonates by him
the engine you throw in your head Angel
say something
the concept from of being a Jew and
being a sinner it's not a problem
um
and what further comes from this
thinking is the the the
Indian slope and you tell them that the
Torah observance and Torah lifestyle in
turn being the essence and and and and
and the idea of being the Jew are two
separate things
and as is the underlying sheet of
nationalism
therefore has nothing to do with the
religion
you're telling me that even now I'm a
Jew even though I sinned
is therefore what do I have to do true
we didn't learn the letter but over
there the Hebrew volume there's the
letters printed
of Zionism nationalism
and this you have to understand kevra
and this is historically this is written
Zionism okay again my well yes we
are talking about 1900 1880 1890 1900
1910 1920 1930 those years gave Jews a
an out
and and you can't imagine how it
impacted the most from boys of slav
bucket and bad and here and there
about less but it was a whole current
and you had what to grab onto look at
the pictures on the net look look you
see secular no Yarmouth is no this no
that they danced the horror and all that
zionists Israel
right now you know so the reper says
that rashab says that if you interpret
alphabetes
with the sheet of Zionism if that's what
your understanding is why should you
take children
that's the way it was
they became not religious
and and and they felt very proud of
being Jews because they were zionists
it's a very very it was a very sensitive
clip I'm sorry to say that
I know my father you know grew up in
Romania and after the war they had like
a Zionism was so powerful and and it
swept you in so you didn't need to
remain religious
the religion wasn't relevant and this
was at the core now again if the court
changed no problem but if yield believes
at least the 1980s the court hasn't
changed
the core idea hasn't changed
and you know just for a moment that we
finished now is you take
you take our kids children and
grandchildren great-grandchildren future
Generations
they talk about going to the Army right
so again there are you going to the Army
because of nationalism
or you're going to the Army because the
ablester says that we need energy slow
and we need to protect energy slow you
understand it's two different ways of
going to the Army
and I assume that idea and you know that
that camp that's their belief I I
believe that's right versus you know
listen the French have an army the
Russians have an army right
um Alexis surroundings and Israel is an
army too
and so when you have a shoe that poses
the saying for of the trila samadina for
example
if the opposition is because they
believe again racist Google say no but
that just going to the Army you're holy
and that's what we're that's what this
letter is is clarifying that that's what
we're against not against the the kernel
issue that ayed is and if that becomes
your shita no problem
and you know that the rapper just you
know for the record the rabbit that was
not for kids
running you know getting excuses and
getting out of the army
of course you want preferred you should
learn but
he didn't have that sheeta where and
Anders that that well I'm talking about
in the last 60 years from 1948 not
recently in the 19 20 30 years you know
I'm talking about before
so it's a it's a very a very delicate
issue yes Maisha okay I just want to say
disregard and last Point first of all
today you see more and more or more and
more Laboratories you know young young
guys that are going to the Army right
that's my son tells me that's what I
hear right my sons have told me that you
see that more and more
but what's also interesting that you see
also my understands more and more Chabad
house
when it comes to comes to Tara Chavez
they said the mishabara
for for sale for for for the Army here
right but you know they say they say for
Sal they're very they're very careful
which we should better be made yeah I
know I know but and I understand that I
understand and and you know if it's not
what's wrong to give up you know what
I'm saying
what the what the Chabad love and the
Chabad house means is not necessarily
what the Zionist behind them sitting and
standing thinks
I understand but again I'm saying and I
and I'm I'm saying I I didn't do the
Mark about house because I come from a
different school you know it's hard for
me too
that's exactly the point 30 years ago 30
years ago for five houses weren't doing
that right
right no no you know like look at look
at look at jlr I mean you we only do the
jail like the the main
yeah
they bring you know every two years and
then covert they took a break but they
they bring these huge missions
here
and Powerful what you know the
the top that's it
army bases and they go to that
so if that's all fine that what's wrong
you know I'm just saying that's what I'm
trying to say is I'm saying when we look
at the that's what I'm trying to say
that I think
I think not like definitely not like
1920s definitely not like 1980.
you know like
I I can't hear I can hear it I can hear
it listen every issue remember the rabbi
from Rabbi Myers from the next door to
his code is you know he he's one of the
leaders or what you know in going up to
the harabaya that's a very controversial
issue as you all know
so all of these issues you know now
Robin Myers is is a strong sweet potato
mixes okay
you know I'm just saying so he's going
to have a buy it is is one ideology the
question you know since the issue
becomes murky well do we do we do we say
everyone in the Chicago should do that
you know and it has to be done like you
know I'm saying what's going on so we
say no no you want to go to your own
thing we're not going to make a shita
out of it and say that you're a bad Jew
if you don't go the Hulu or you know
you're not living up to your potential
and you know because we know how logic
issues are where you're stepping and
what you're doing and all that all I'm
saying is
that this is where we have you know
disagreements but it's fine it's fine
hey wearing trailers
and there are four people in his his
most others say we don't know for sure
and yet I think you will all agree was a
fine Jew and anointed that's true and a
Hasidic Jew he weren't careless
he was convinced in that moment Rabbi
toersky was convinced that this is
correct and I I and we you know you guys
know him and I know him he wasn't a
puppet he was a learned man in
everything and he was a scholar and I'm
sure he studied the whole sugiofreles
and he came to the conclusion that it's
it's
okay no problem no problem yes hello
I uh I once heard him say something
along the lines of like well it couldn't
hurt
okay
you know maybe maybe didn't know for for
sure but it couldn't hurt fight in her
fight
what I'm saying is you talk to many
others like it's what are you hacking a
child you know where you drain a cup you
know a mini guy was saying to be
ordainer what your grandfather Stifler
ready or the tone of rebbe or the square
reppi or the chernobyla remedy they were
trainless what are you doing
and believe me he got a lot of flack for
it trust me you know so you know we need
to we need to
the data Cloud you should know
the sheet of the Babbage going back I
share with you kevra you know 200 years
of Leverage not just the populist the
last 20 years you know with the big
signs and the publicity I'm going I'm
going to the core to this forum
is live and not live Live and Let Live
of an individual is motivated in a
certain way nope the data Cloud no
problem but when you go and you start
making shits and you start saying it has
to be this way you know that's that's a
whole other genre of an experience and
and that's where it becomes very very
controversial you know but but as an
individual take take for example we
mentioned that Avi the safer cartel
what's the name of the safer
bunny
do you know you know we're talking about
you're talking about a Hungarian
who comes from the same you know world
as glazenberg and supper and mooncatch
and that whole
Chandra of individuals who we know about
right
and he goes and and writes and says that
we have to think about Heritage Road
and we have to look at it and everything
else
and that's when they say oh stop
you were good till now now you you're
going no
so they throw them they throw them out
and they do and and the day limit the
literature did the same thing with Robin
salivation you're good Kim now but as
soon as you start with a little
modernity or accepting modernity or or
or giving hatharine that they didn't
like you become a pariah that's loved
African it's left Africa it's not
necessarily so because these individuals
were totally committed to their sheet
and all that but they were honest people
from a Salvation Garden this was his
argument after the Holocaust he said
he was not good this you know what I'm
salvation wasn't a goodest
and then he said after the Holocaust I
came to understand and realize that
Hashem wants something else that's what
he came to with his brains that's it you
know you don't have to go along with
them but that's he was an honest person
the rabbit you know who's very much a
traditionalist he he came he he
announced different things that his
father-in-law and and the Rashad didn't
and and the rabbit clearly said the time
requires this approach now and he would
show how if the rashab lived in that
time or the previous rapper they would
he didn't say this but this was
intimated in his words they would
support this
because he followed them because he was
just he saw himself as a successor and
he wouldn't be an innovator nevertheless
this was the case I heard the scrapyo
professor Don Seaman my friend from
Emory right that you studied history
Professor he told me and this is when
when I brought him to the bill to have a
discussion
so he said to the he said to review what
the rabbit speaks about seven no height
Mitzvahs reaching out he says we never
saw this in Judaism and he relates to it
he's a keeper Nick you know he has no
problem with it but he's he's looking at
the bigger picture
since when do we make a campaign to go
out and teach people seven minutes
explained to him he said listen when I
was a a boy you know to go out on on not
this engulf new on that next street the
popular Street next to disengoff
not then you would forget uh whatever
thank you Allenby
he says to go on an island be and stop
someone to put on filling you'd be out
of your mind it just wasn't done we had
either just an a secularistic
he says when I was growing up in Tel
Aviv he says and that appetite didn't
speak about going out to Alan B in 1952
and 53 because the time wasn't right but
then as things were becoming going to
the right more and more that ever said
go out to Allenby without saying those
words go out to The Boondocks go out to
Albuquerque to go out here and there
why because now the there was a change
from the ableston Hashem says now the
time is right so therefore now in 1983
when the river announced this the whole
idea of seven minutes
now the time is right for sure but
it's not that the ideas puzzle is
invalid the idea was always caution but
then the world wasn't a vessel for it
and now the world is a vessel for it and
guess what people a lot of people say we
disagree no problem it's agreed
Everyone's entitled and what they you
know but but don't tell me that his
point was he was telling to Don Steven
he was telling him that that it's but
it's a Kiddush that has its its core in
Torah and in in the realm of of of kirov
but just that time it wasn't the world
wasn't ready and now the world is ready
and that's and that's the difference
that's all so Taco during their shops
times
they're a shop had to take a more
Vigilant
opposing view to Zionism because Zionism
was killing our youth
and they didn't and they said we have
Zionism we don't need to be religious
look at all pictures in all of our
families including my own
the beard went off the yamakas went off
the shapeless went off and they started
to dance and horrors of schmores and
boroughs and and and and nothing and
then
punished and what happened
their kids weren't religious and then
they married out many and
and a Petaluma I think I told you
Petaluma in in Marin County
where I was in Marin County petaluma's
next County over it was a conservative
show had pictures in the hallway in the
in the Social Hall all year 1920s
because they wanted to make over there
the chicken farms the keyboards in
we're the kids I asked there was still
some older I remember I contacted them
they're lutherans sorry we have
lutherans from this
Zionism
lutherans could believe nothing remains
goodness
you gotta see the pictures hundreds of
people social or playing cards having a
good time all eaten what happened to
grandkids and great grandkids
this
is finished
yes in Petaluma there are also they they
became deadheads oh yeah what the
Petaluma is the seat of the deadheads
is it great yeah that's that's uh heart
and that's all of the Grateful Dead
Society oh I didn't know that okay I
thought it's Berkeley so it's not
Berkeley it's Petaluma
okay anyway camera good for bringing in
good conversations see everyone tomorrow
as I give them bye