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Yeshiva University and Chasidus. Young Israel of Teaneck, RC Dalfin & Dr. Eli Rachlin, Feb 2, 2025
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hi everyone good evening we're gonna get
started hi
Danny uh good evening everyone I'm
honored to speak tonight on behalf of
the Young Israel tinac and on behalf of
Rabbi cron Rabbi cron unfortunately
couldn't be here tonight uh but he
wanted to send his warm regards and
appreciation for tonight's uh discussion
and event um and he also asked me to
convey how proud he is of uh Dr Ellie
rlin from our community for the Torah
scholarship that you're going to hear
about tonight um and for his
contributions to the community including
you know tonight's event um also want to
you know represent the board of
directors as we celebrate this book
launch uh in which Dr rlin was so
involved um Young Israel is honored to
host this event because uh Dr racklin
embodies our commitment our community's
commitment to Torah uh to professional
and communal engagement and to the
spreading of torah's wisdom wherever it
can be found um Dr Akin's a pediatric
dentist profession he has a deep passion
for Learning and in recent years he has
explored kabad thought finding insights
that have enriched his perspective he C
he has collaborated with RAB K Dalin who
we're very honored to have as well an
esteemed author and historian who has
written extensively on kabad and its
relationship with other Jewish movements
um and those of you have had a chance to
look at the selection outside you could
see there's quite a lot of uh of output
that Rabbi uh Dophin is responsible for
writing about different engagements of
kabad with different streams of Jewish
thought um tonight they're going to be
speaking about the new book kabad inba
University uh the work explores the
intersection between the two
intellectual Traditions highlighting
their shared values areas of Divergence
and historical
interactions and Dr Akin's journey in
this book reflects the richness of
torah's 70 faces U demonstrating how
continued study can ignite a passion
that can Revitalize every aspect of our
life uh his work is a testament to the
idea that Torah is vast and multiac
offering New Paths of understanding that
can Inspire both personal growth and
also commun connection and also have an
influence Beyond just the personal and
obviously tonight we see you know people
here who want to learn about this
important topic through scholarship and
dialogue he and Robie Dalin have
fostered a greater appreciation for the
intellectual and spiritual contributions
of both Yu and kabad and we are grateful
for their contributions and we look
forward to the insights that they'll
share with us tonight so Dr aan can kick
this off
[Applause]
all thank you very much uh for your kind
words um so um my being here raises an
obvious question there's a book about
about uh kabad and whyu I actually
attended neither of them um the only uh
Wu I attended was York University not to
conf not to be confused with New York
University uh which is in Toronto um but
um so I wanted to actually just address
and uh what is that that brings me here
um and that's really partly as an
introduction to uh the book and
introduction um to really the guest
speaker um and the focus and that's RAB
doin um because those those things are
intertwined um so number of years ago
someone who I was very close with became
very uh um uh impacted through kabad um
and I saw that that made a big
Improvement in that person's life and I
thought that partly for academic reasons
it would be good to explore what
was these uh kabad people what was it
that they really believed I knew
something about mashiah um i' been sh I
was a kid but I didn't really know much
about about the depth or or kind of what
was the uh what was it that caused them
to have uh this influence on someone
that I was uh then very close with so I
said let me try to learn some of it
myself
just so I can perhaps exude some of that
um but not really thinking that would
have any significant impact on me and I
started learning uh
Tanya uh first at kab.org with the uh
recorded classes of uh RAB Yeshua Gordon
of last memory um and I started to have
all kinds of questions both
about some of the material I was
learning some of it I didn't understand
some of it I thought I understood but
didn't understand what I thought were
contradictions well enough didn't
understand some of the nuances um and
then also questions about kabad is a
movement sociological Etc and I was
trying to look for someone to to speak
to about this to ask my questions to and
and one of my thoughts was I want to be
able to speak to someone who's an
Insider inside the world of kabad um but
who could also basically in explaining
any of my answering any of my questions
basically give me give me the real deal
I didn't want a uh a sugarcoated version
of anything uh
and I wanted to make make sure I was
speaking with someone who could
respect uh my coming from a different
perspective and and try to answer any
questions or concerns they had explain
things to me so um i' had already been
aware of Rie Dophin from his book a
number of years before um on the rav and
and um and the Reber which I believe
came out
2016 um and I had read um and I I'd read
that frankly I'm not even certain I made
I made it all way through it but I read
quite a bit of it um years before so I
knew the name and um I thought maybe
this was a person that that might be
someone who could uh help me on my own
my own trying to find some answers um
and uh so the next thing I do was I I
purchased a book which is unfortunately
out of print um it's not out of print oh
I'm sorry which I thought was out of
print okay incorrect fine it's back in
print um and now we'll talk about this
book instead but I will actually for
just a a minute or two this book was
called conversations with the rebba from
menal schneerson and my first thought
was cool someone interviewed the rebba
for 3 hours and put into a book then I
realized that that wasn't what it was
and apparently no one's actually done
that or no one actually ever did that uh
while the re um was alive or or since um
and um and uh what this book actually is
was it was interviews conducted by robbi
doin um yeah you caught that thank you
uh he was interviews by Rabbi Dophin
with a number of very significant Jewish
personalities um some of them were uh
for example Herman braner some of you
may know the name he was a um a
scientist from Russia who became a kabad
niik um but some of the names on this
list um
kuk um author of The Chosen Yak Shamir
Israeli Prime Minister um um Rabbi
Norman lamb bless memory who's a uh
obviously one of the main Builders of
yiva University and in these interviews
what I saw is uh someone rob Rabbi
dalphin who was engaging with these
different personalities um again some
religious some not religious some laich
most of them not laich um and talking
about um various issues of importance to
the Jewish Community both religious and
otherwise um respectfully and and then
putting it in print for example um in a
conversation uh with her by Dr Norman
lamb um robbi lamb among other things
one thing that I found interesting was
he made reference to the fact something
that uh I seem to have become already
increasingly aware of that in his view
the only Group inim which was still
promoting classical kidus teaching the
Torah of the the Torah of the best and
and um
rather than as Norman lamb put it just
saying cute little vlock and was kabad
and while of course I think that's a
simplification there's plenty of of
great Torah coming out of all streams
ofus um um I noticed that Norman lamb
shared that observation but he also
shared some observations that were
really frankly critical of kabad um as a
movement and my point isn't to share
those if I guess if you want to find
those you'll have to buy the book um but
all keeping aside my point is to share
the fact that what impressed me was that
Rabbi Dalin was having a conversation
with Rabbi lamb about that and when
Rabbi lamb was critical of kabad it's in
the book um and he was unafraid of
conversation with uh with uh different
perspectives and that really says a lot
about Rabbi Dophin and having read this
book I said you know what I'm the kind
of person if I feel that there's an
expert I want to speak to I just reach
out and speak to them I think David
Schwarz is aware from
2017 when he want wanted to figure out a
good place uh to uh watch the um solar
eclipse um that I kind of put him in
touch with Alex filipenko who uh
filipenko right Who U is just the author
of the uh the uh number one astronomy
text um because I had taken a continuing
education course um not professional
continuing education but just because I
was interested in astronomy and after
taking it I reached out to Professor
Philip Peno because I had some questions
um and surprised and said no one ever
does
this but that but that's who I am so
then a few months later um he was on
this one of the world's greatest
astronomers was advising uh the Schwartz
family as the best hotel to stay in to
be close to where to where the eclipse
was turns out he's also a nice guy which
is also true of course to my Dophin so
the next step was then I contacted my
Dophin and over a period of time um we
discussed a lot of things we discussed
aside from the sociological aspects of
habad but most of the reason I wanted to
talk to him about was about um both
about getting a deeper understanding of
Tanya um and also applying it to my own
to my own personal life and he was
incredibly incredibly helpful with that
and remained so um to this day um so
with that in mind um sometime later I
said to R dolphin I said know you write
a lot of books if you need any help with
any editing or any projects um I'm here
I'd be happy to uh to extend um my
procrastination Services I mean my
editing services and uh and so um um he
had this manuscript that he had on on
Isa University and uh and kabad and what
was interesting about it was to me was
it's not a complete history of all
interactions between these two
institutions um Rob Dophin is very well
known and respected as as historian or
some would say historiographer and I
think the main difference between
historian and historiographer is that
historiographer is a word that
historians made up um to uh refer to any
historian who's not published in
journals but whose work they use when
they write when they write those
articles so uh just an example as to um
the esteem with which Rabbi dalin's work
is known and his work consists of of of
documenting oral traditions of
interviewing multiple people to find the
root of the story as an Insider as as
someone with with who knows how to um
access and tease the tease the truth of
various stories of of uh looking at
documents and some of which are
published in in this book for the first
time actually um and uh so he's uh for
example um Jonathan sarna who's known
essentially as the dean of uh of
American Jewish historians is friends
with robalin I've seen some of the
correspondence uh between the two of
them with uh Professor sarna um
expressing thanks to robalin for his
contributions and and for his Works uh
last week I'm sorry last year last
summer Robie Dalin was invited um as a
guest scholar probably first cidic guest
scholar at the American Jewish archives
in Cincinnati um which I suppose was
great both because he got to lecture
there as well as uh conduct research
with access to documentation that wasn't
um available uh elsewhere and uh um and
many figures have really extoled the
quality of his work I know that R oh one
other thing I should mention both
relating to the quality of the work as
well as this respect for different
perspectives so many of you may know the
name uh Rie AR raet um I know many of
you um have been to Hur whether in midot
in Yas in
G um and uh R by R is also known um for
having written the two volume um two
volume work on the r which um was edit
was actually um edited by a cousin of
mine Joseph Epstein or yoseph abstein um
but in any case Rob Rett and Robie
Dophin are very good friends I think uh
said you met in 2017 or
2018 um and uh they're very good friends
in fact there's uh numerous uh videos
online Rob doin interviewing R ret and
while they often have obviously
differing differing perspectives um r
Keet is not only a fan of R dophins but
also a big fan of of this book now what
I feel I added to it um is that um robbi
dalphin had already done had prepared a
manuscript and I thought that in a lot
of areas different things resonate
differently with different people
especially different people different
backgrounds different experiences and I
found that certain things that resonated
much more strongly um with sumone with
more of a modern Orthodox uh B
background um I chose to put some more
extra emphasis on there um and and kind
of flesh out some of those areas um some
of the areas about um attitudes about
science and secular education I feel
like I fleshed out some of those are and
one of the interesting things again in
in that process was that there were
frequently times where we went back and
forth had discussions and R dolphin
didn't always agree actually even with
some of the some of what ended up in the
book but might which would make might
make you wonder why he put his name on
it but the answer is because he said I'm
not sure if I agree 100% but that's a
that's a valid point of view that's a
good perspective it should be in there
don't make but don't make sure you also
put the other perspective in as well
which is some of what we really
attempted uh to do in working together
it was really a great collaboration and
a testament to um who re Dophin is um I
just want to share one story that is uh
told over in the uh in the book and the
book does start um because of course all
books kind of need a a good hook right
the the book starts with two
institutions that both started in the
late 1890s now kabad of course dates
back to much earlier than that more than
a century earlier than that um but
um which was the uh first kabad Yeshiva
was established in the late 1890s at
right around the exact same time
that on the Lower East Side the
precursor to University was being
established so the first portion of the
book uh discusses some of the travails
of yeshivas at at that time both in
Europe as well as in the United States
just for a quick taste of that um uh for
example um both in uh both
in um in New York and across the ocean
in Roden right around the same time both
yeshivas engaged in strikes uh for
different reasons um interestingly the
the main reason for the strike at yiva
University which I believe was in
1908 was because um the students were
upset about the quality of the food and
the stiens and and um changed yeah
exactly and we were there earlier today
the commentator the the number one story
was that uh students complaining about
the fact that the health department gave
the cafeteria an a
um um and being urged to flood the
health department with complaints but
there was an actual strike um and
resulting in the ISA actually closing
down and around the same time
1903 same era there was the strikes were
going all through yeshivas because the
Winds of changed were really going
through um jury at the time 1903 right
around the time of the r
birth in raden the strike was because
the Shiva students felt that gamarra
wasn't stimulating enough they didn't
like the way he was being taught they
heard of this new way that some Yas were
studying gamar and that was the way of
Sal and they felt that that they were
being hampered in the scientific age of
this old school type of learning gar and
they went on strike in Thea which is the
actual reason um and Rabin has
documentation for that in the book it's
the actual reason that the got a new
Russa got raali uh Trum some of you may
may know that name uh raali Trum was was
hired as to be the new rashash Shiva in
the 1903 because he was a talmid of the
of the
um in order to bring the brisker method
to um to uh to that Yeshiva so so the
first chapter covers a lot of those
strikes even uh even to the point of the
of of um Student Activities at Yu over
the closing of MTA over the potential
closing of Rebel um trying to bring that
chapter from the early era of the
institutions all the way forward to the
20th century and then the book goes into
um goes into the study of at is
University and um um to the extent that
it occurred often in clandestine
settings um including a cestine class of
which of Aron ret was was part well when
he was part of it it wasn't clandestine
then um as you could find in the
footnotes um one of the Riva shut down
the class um after josic said that the
class should continue and uh and um the
uh Tanya class went back to the
dormatory so all these things are
detailed in the book but a major major
focus of the book is the philosophies of
kabad as they developed really in the
mid 20th century and the philosophy of
Ric because both in Kad theab and in
University these were of course the two
seminal figures who shaped um who shaped
the um the um philosophy
and the um and and what these two
institutions accomplish of course took
took over
1941 but he was really reached his
powers in in the uh 50s and 60s when he
really um got University um and that's
of course with all deference to um uh
both Samuel Belin uh Bernard Rebel and
Norman lamb all who of course are also
known for as in the administrative side
really guiding uh y University um so the
the quick story that I I did want to uh
just share from the book was the
following it occurs actually was with
the salivic family but it occurs with
Kim solic in 1901 I believe right before
the Rob's birth and and um at the time
Rim salek was the robin brisk of course
and he had a large community of konic in
the town now for those who think I'm
might be getting confused with MOA
salvic I I'm not I know Sal was the Rob
Kasich um when the Rob grew up a town
which was known for uh having a
significant kabad Community but Sal was
the rabbi in brisk and the kabad um the
kabad community had a problem they
wanted his help with the problem was the
following which is uh as many people
know um a huge holiday in kabad circles
that celebrates the re being uh released
from prison y k um that year the laab re
and laab the the rebba rashab the fifth
laich rebba was not going to be in laich
that year so he sent a letter and a
proclamation to be read in La babich
communities the problem was that the
letter was not received in brisk until
after they celebrated your T and the
came to R Brisco with the following
question they said we received this
letter from the uh Dan laab TR and it
says in the letter that your tesl should
from now on be celebrated not just as a
great day
because was let out of prison but it
should be treated as rash
forus um adding another rosashana to our
calendar which according to the mission
there there already four um and adding
another so they said
toic we didn't know that we were
supposed to celebrate it as R and the
amazing thing is that
Rim who clearly on your that year and
every other year said t and uh had
nothing to do with any celebrations told
them that they celebrated with the wrong
kavana and as such they had no choice
but they would have to celebrate your
klave again because they had done the
mitvah
incorrectly um some suggested can we do
this on on PM Katan now that following P
there was two adars perm Katan is the
first the PM Katan
isar in adish so they said and I don't
know whether perhaps Min was then not to
work on Perm Katan um they said can we
do this on on on Perm Katan and
celebrate on that day and he told them
no
because is the day
of is too big of to be held on Perm
Katan um and so he directed them to pick
another day to celebrate Yus kle and
what was striking about the story to me
is that as I said um Sal had nothing to
do withing but he had um and most people
when they think of solic would think
that someone was was very anti casan
although again as the book demonstrates
he had he he had later had um actually
some earlier and some later had had a
lot of dealings with uh with the lababa
the fifth laaba um but in fact he had
the spiritual sensitivity that even
though there was this this movement that
he had really no part of other than the
fact that they were that they were uh he
was the rub of their town he respected
their spiritual uh the way they
expressed their spirituality even though
it was different than his and he was and
he was ruling with them at the
intersection of where their practices
were and Haka even though it was
something that he really didn't relate
to personally and um so I feel that that
Spirit of respecting um other um of
respecting other modes of
spirituality um this ended up very much
trickling down to Yos
salvic um where even though of course he
was a uh a mate he also uh publicly
joked that he was a clandestine kaban
because he later came to Embrace um many
aspects of kabad philosophy with that in
mind I want to now give the floor to AR
doin who will take it from here thank
you could you bring me the book from the
outside so good evening to
everybody I'm not going to give you
dases and
lectures this is a book
launch so I'm just going to share
braing with you you know what braing
is 30 years
ago I interviewed Rabbi Dr Norman
lamb
University for the book Al you mentioned
conversations with
the and I'll never forget what he told
me almost as an opening line he said
we and kabad 30 years ago
1995 we and kabad are the closest
thing that's what he said to me and then
he went went on to speak about the sheet
the book that he wrote I think for his
PhD uh on
the and we spoke about that and he spoke
about as ell mentioned some criticism he
had in Springfield Springfield where he
was a rabbi and kabad came into town
whatever it's all it's all there as he
said you could read
it and for 30 years I was thinking about
this you know did he say it to me just
to make me feel good you know I was a
much younger man
right and uh he was Dr Lamb Rabbi Dr
Lamb you know bringing $60 million a
year or more into Yeshiva and he built
he built an Empire he really built an
Empire you know the r is the r but you
need the the G says
right right what do they say
Gish G is is Right theic equivalent of G
is is BL but we need this BL BL is dirt
schutz we need this schutz we need this
BL without the money a gate this should
don't
go so I'm sitting there you know I'm
thinking about it you know what what did
he really want what did it really say it
took me 30 years kind of to put it
together so in 2016 I published this
book it's a 400 page book 550 or so
footnotes called Robin reer it went
through three printings we're at a print
and a Gentleman here came here tonight
to buy it I said I can't sell you this
copy it's my only copy
left hashem's help we'll find sponsors
and we will reprint it but for right
now this book is not available
however when I printed this
2016 the focus was as to cover you know
the rav and the
rebon and RAB keit was very helpful to
this to me to this and publicizing it
and endorsing
it and uh especially here in Tink I must
tell you I sold the most copies right
here at uh uh the store store I think
we're Aiden there was someone named
Aiden who the former owners I mean I had
to bring them boxes and boxes they sold
a tremendous amount ruing
ruing
so what is it what is it what what what
is this kabad and what is why you yes
University so let me digress for a
moment
and say it's really Dr
racklin it's Ellie
racklin Ellie rlin is a a a modern man a
learned man
a a scholar a professional
dentist really is a successful man and
he's you know worked hard to get where
he
is and he decides not only to
to look atab and look
at but really to go deep into it and
this is a very important
point I'm sure everyone here in the room
has had exposure with kabad the MC told
me you know he's involved with kabad
Rabbi in the South Dakota I think I'm
sure some of you must have even children
or grandchildren or cousins or
relatives someone we spoke today at
Yeshiva at the sale El and I
and someone asked the question and and
I'll ask you the
question student he said why is it and I
don't know his background I know what's
going on he said why is it that he feels
sometimes at the Yesa something
University he says there's an
ambivalence to kabad he asked me why
2025 not 1940 not 1950 not 1960
today and I said I think it's not
because of the Torah of kabad the
balatan Torah the Reb Torah it's not
because of their teachings I think it
has to do with the sociological issue
you know what Rabbi what Dr what Rabbi
Dr Lamb said about the rabbi who came
the kabik who came to Springfield when
he was Rabbi in the sh he have the same
issues and it's not just Kad it's in
many communities imagine someone parked
himself next to youru here and opens up
another Young Israel you're not going to
be
happy
I you know the more the merrier but you
know we're people my continent my dollar
my balabas that's the way it
is
and one needs to if they if they're
interested if they want to see the value
in any group and Society you need to
study their inside
kishkas what's the inside kishkas the
Torah and philosophy of that particular
movement and
group and for the last many years I've
dedicated myself to this
analysis out in the hallway you'll see a
slew of books that I've written many of
which are
kabad and and
tells and
ponich and
Tas
right to show and present to
everyone both on a platter and you the
reader decide what you want to do with
it I try very hard I'm not perfect I try
very hard to be as objective as possible
as possible it's it's impossible to be
completely honest because I'm atic I'm
AER
right by having Dr
racklin assist me in this project he
brought and took my manuscript and
brought a lot of that there to it so kab
in Yesa
University gives the reader
a more
balanced approach to a topic and what is
that topic the topic is the synthesis of
two great Giants and two great movements
and
institutions how they can work
together that's what I'm interested in
I'm interested in one thing CLA
isas Isel working together what Kal yaka
beard no beard
this it's
irrelevant anyone could dress the way
you want and we you stand coming to a he
dressed like a mench
but theba I said this earlier I'll make
it very brief in 1984 my wife and I my
wife sitting in the
back we were sent by the
rebba to Marin County California has
anyone been rais your hand to Maring
County California you know what ring
County California is
Gila I think is from Santa Rosa but ring
County California was depicted in a
documentary in the 1970s as the hot tub
capital of the United
States with
smoking the marijuana dope in your hot
tub and we'll leave it at that and worse
right okay that's Marin
County someone comes to me says
Rabbi shabis MIT I'm from New York
meanwhile he has his nice long ponytail
and he's raising pigs in his
backyard in Upper afluent area in Marine
County so the deba sent us as young 20
year olds to go out to Marine County
as we built a Mikvah we built a Sho we
built a big a Yesa and a
bookstore 19,000 Jews according to the
Federation list
I come to the fair the fair for the
Jewish community in the summer of I
think August of 84 because we left in in
July of
84 and I say how am I going to read how
am I going to get the message out that
we're in town One reform synagogue sh
one conservative I think one
Reconstructionist group and now
kabad so I I had come across a flyer
that a friend of mine Rabbi shyan for
Chicago had printed it had his picture
and next to it it said like this I am
not reformed I'm not conservative I'm
not Orthodox I am I am a Jew this is the
philosophy of kabar a Jew is a Jew and
and the rest right and I said ah I'm
going to put my picture instead of
shim's picture and send out a beautiful
card to 5,000 people 5,000 people is
probably you know 1900 homes whatever
the case
but I have a boss someone sent me to
Marine
County so I I took the the card and I
sent it in faxed it
in not you know expecting him to respond
and not asking for permission but just
notifying there
herit he's my
boss a few hours later re Klein over sh
the re secretary one of the secretaries
calls me and says the re wrote comments
on your
flyer said what comments on my flyer and
briefly what the Rebus said was like
this your message is that kab is about
Isel and we're all
one yet what do you say I am not this
I'm not that I'm not this by saying I'm
not you're saying there is three
divisions and there
aren't a Jew is a Jew the fact that you
belong to a reformed synagogue reformed
Temple a conservative synagogue
Orthodox okay that's where you're d
That's Where You Belong that's where you
socialize but a ye is one ye we're all
one
Jew and the reab ended with the words
Hashem it's a heavy may the good God
forgive
you this was my introduction out to
Marine County 19 august 19 um 85
and I took and I took the 5,000 and I
dumped him into my garbage can in in the
office and Z I never sent them
out there was more there was more
details in the answer but I'm just going
to leave it at
that
so both RAB Sal the and the Reb with the
driving force of the movements okay I
know it's 30 plus years later both the
passed away 1993 that passed away 1994
it's 30 years later
right I can tell you for as a laaber as
aik
that the movement not only continues
with anotherab house you know which you
all know about you
know the learning of the
Torah the learning of
theis the is active it's it's alive
today
I was to at the sale at the Yu sale and
I saw a whole Shelf full of the rubs for
and readed done and with this commentary
this Rabbi and this
scholar I would hope I'm
not I'm not in the Yesa you know I would
hope that today's students cherish and
value the R's
Torah this was a
genius you know I've studied Rabon
Cutler and I've studied Rabbi Rudman and
I studied Rabbi hutner they're all in my
books and I studied SCH carach I studied
them all from inside out with
interviewing all kinds of
people people already G people who knew
those people
personally and another thing I do I'm a
biographer and I write people's oral
history which as and aside if you
haven't done that to your parents for
yourself please do
it everyone has a story here get your
story down and writing don't depend on
your kid and your grandkid cuz ain't a
going to happen
okay make sure you do it it's very very
important for D durus to have your story
told I wrote my father's biography 87
this Romania Survivor from Romania I sat
him down got the
information put in a writing and put out
a
book anyway so
the his genius insights into Tyra are
astonishing and I must say as
aab
student I was sheltered like
most everyone in my community as
students and I I think in today for sure
everyone is in their little corner
doesn't know what the other one so I
started to study listen to shiur Listen
to
tapes
wow such t such
wisdom I'm sure some of you attended his
yards side share
right four or five hours hours two two
three
hours
of two three hours of a
I spoken
to and I asked what did you think of the
and I'm talking about
massive massive who know and understand
sh they
said and yet this
person
unfortunately was ostra side by the
right wing what they call orthodox which
I don't like using those terms as I said
a moment ago
right why because he didn't exactly tell
their line there are good he's M you you
all most of you I'm sure know what I'm
talking
about and I'm not here to to Really
delve into that I did in my books I did
I did because it this needs to be
understood but not not now so the
RV teaches this
brilliant brilliant
Torah then I
find and I hear him make
statements aboutus I said wow since when
did Rabbi studyis I know he's a genius
but you have to learn it he's a
brisker aitak or as he would say himself
and Ellie quoted before I'm a mugget
from the house of
brisk he was was a proud Miss naget Hali
all Miss should be like him there are no
mnin today anyway there's lit Fox but
was not them
anyway and I start listening to him
saying explaining things on
rone Bal rone God the
eminator the will of God and I learned
these things and I spent hours and days
and months thinking about these things
Inus and RAB Sal he's right
there in other words you could be a
genius but if you didn't learn the text
you don't you can't make it
up and he's quoting the mler rebba not
just the alter rebba the son of the
alter rebba some very deep
ideas and then in 1976 when they wanted
when they wanted him when he they wanted
him to go to GRU some wanted and he was
going to take 50 or 200 students with
him he wrote the curriculum you know
what the curriculum said besides
learning and Mas and everything
else 45 minutes twice a week a week to
learn
Tanya Sal wanted that it never happened
for various reasons which it's a
different story but it never
happened RAB Keet knows this and RAB
Keet has been on my tale for years
years to get University to have as an
official learning say there in the
curriculum he didn't say it could be sh
it could
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be but this hasn't happened yet the
closest we got was when they hired in
2014 Rabbi mosha
Weinberger uh and I interviewed him and
it's in the book some very very in my
books in generally you should know all
the secrets are in the
footnotes so if if you want to know the
secrets you must read the
footnotes anyway so he lasted till 2020
when 1920 when the co hit you know it
got busy and there are rabbis who are
teaching but the point is that when you
when you when you allow yourself as
Ellie said before
to be open to other strands and other
philosophies in
T and I say this to my own the
barers you know are you studying
seriously how can you learn rambam
without R shov maybe well AB shov of
Philadelphia he told me that when he
went to see the rub he was the one who
invited the rub to come to the 1985
ringan which I was there this Mo shabas
will be 30 uh 40 years 1980 Mo shabas
the previous Rebus yard site the rough
came to faing I think it was a Monday
night it was a scene to be seen it was
awesome this picture that I put on the
cover the background is of faan if you
look carefully that's the 1980 faan and
this is the picture of how they both
when they both saw each other when the
Reit came in and the r ready had come in
a few minutes before standing there this
is the picture it was the love was
palpable Europe
Berlin the AL the was palpable I'm
telling you 5,000 people were in that
room we were standing in awe like I'm
tell like M
har we talk about M
har I'm telling you from my perspective
that was my
anyway
so the synthesis of Torah that the Reb
and and and and the brings to the Jewish
world are very
important to to continue learning and to
be open to learning as as
a a away in serving God today not 30
years ago today so I'll give you just
one one one
Insight chapter 26 from 26 to 34 it's
called the psychological part of Tanya I
have outside a book called Tanya mental
health you know what's the buzz word
today mental health mental health we're
all muga mental health
right you don't have to be mugar
everyone has mental
health so I said let's look at Tanya see
what does Tanya say about mental health
so I took one one
idea kind of per chapter as a as a
tidbit from the chapter to look at a
mental health issue love fear
friendliness loneliness schizophrenia
whatever different things you'll see if
you're
interested and the the chapters that
deal with those things is 26 to
34 now chapter 26 begins with the
concept that everything is good there's
no bad coming from
Hashem everyone you know this is the big
question just had an October 7th what's
going on Holocaust Spanish Inquisition a
child that's born that's not well on the
line I don't have to tell you we have
plenty of s plenty of
problems there's no Evil coming from
Heaven it's all good really it's all
good and the balatan addresses this in
chapter 26 which by the way equals
numerical value of YK equals 26 just as
an aside he doesn't say
it
anyway and he explains I don't want what
I want to get at is when he starts
speaking about the
issues of dealing with problems physical
material problems he quotes part of a p
of verse and he says
given for this is da da da to realize it
comes from a higher place okay it brings
a Caba it brings a PK
okay the bottom of the page when he says
then what about issues that you have
which come from spiritual
maladies inappropriate thoughts
depression in in in prayer you know
things that are more on the spiritual
spectrum that disturb your prayer your
Ding and your learning
there he
quotes this is his
language take a look later you'll see
the bottom of chapter 26 in the First
Column first page second page actually
he says there you have to find advice
why does he change the
language when it comes to the when it
comes to the G the material problems he
says the advices and comes to the the to
the spiritual problems he
says you have to struggle to find an
answer a solution for your problem so I
heard from my teacher
AB that the what the AL is insinuating
over here is that should bother you more
than gas you
understand it's a heavy a heavy job but
that's what he's that's what he in
between that's what he saying
he's saying that g material money and
health and
children you have to find a
solution but what you really have to
find a solution for is if your doing is
not proper if your learning is not
proper if your is not proper there you
have to really struggle to find the
device this is just one example out of
thousands of examples that that are in
this time
that the r said that the Yesa should
learn at the gr
1976 because he saw and he knew and he
learned that this will bring an
add to the Yesa University world to the
modern Orthodox world there's no
question about it and when they came to
him Ellie mentioned that they they tried
stopping the kanir you know what the r
said Al megma learon
everything you're allowed to
learn but not
t
so this
misnet this brisker misnet he was Pro no
man what should we say
today and this idea of of the r
tah as he explains so many Concepts in
Tah
with the insights of kabat and this adds
one more
point was the the question is like this
was the r more intellectual or more
emotional this is a big
discussion and most people at least most
of what's written of course intellectual
the greatest
intellect the said and I spoke to T and
he said it and his sister even I think
writes itus
sman he says my students
took my cup my head they didn't take my
heart and I tried very hard to get them
to take my heart and they didn't take my
heart they had a father at and a mother
think pessure
right also so you have to study who the
parents are you want to understand the
person you have to look at the
parents let's say SCH carach RAB car SCH
car
right if you understand scher's parents
you understand him if you don't
understand his parents I promise you
don't know him you think you know him
you don't you have to study the person's
parents and once you see the parents the
way they were raised then you can have
more of an Insight what's going on the
psychology in their thinking in their
youth and as they grow
Ro the as as Dr mentioned
had he would say was a he says he was a
of the
Al and by the way the Yesa sent two t
them two students in
1968 to to to
mcow they were doing
kiru I spoke to one of them forget
another the name and he said that
they saw
someone and he went over said
shom and he asks them do you
know whatever so they say he's our
rebi so they say he says send them my
regards so they say and who are
you just tell him
when they came back he said he'll know
already when he came back they told him
he Mish almost collapsed he didn't
believe that he was still alive this was
his mamid from 1913 who was already a
middle-aged person
inav and the spoke always about this
this m
right
like possibly
the said
he's just
a is talking about the malit within him
that he got from B reberg his
malam
so the he talks about this malamed with
such admiration and what does he speak
about this malamed that he saw that this
m was living was living
a story with
the you know I heard the story from
Rabbi barl we wine sorry ra Barrel
wine just said the story that I heard
just now and it's a very it's a very
sharp story so you know this what I'm
going to to say so please Rabbi why said
it not
doin there
one AR
I
think forget
now and he goes he gives a he makes
After ding he makes a a bang and he
wants to say he says something he says I
got noticed there's a there's a town
near us the mik isn't good
talking
about
women we have to be we have to correct
fix the MIT right
away
please it's Ed
of somehow has to be
done he sits back down wraps up his Fain
a comes over to
him and he says can I ask
the he wasn't was but he says can I
ask say sure he asks him tells him
sh afterwards after he tells him the
says to the B did you hear what I said a
few minutes
ago he said yes
reab he says are you ready to go to the
town oh he wanted I'm sorry he wanted
the someone want to go for
yipper to to the sh and to be people to
you know you know make the M kosher and
all that so he says are you ready
to is re how can I go how can I leave
raer who am I what am
I and this is say turned and he
said spit on the floor with your whole t
said
that what is your worth if you're not
willing to sacrifice for another ye to
build a mik to help a mik and to go away
from your comfort
zone
for the ended it with these type of
individuals and we today need to realize
that and to understand it and to and to
and to live with it the
book this book in particular the kabad
university with Dr rin's tremendous uh
editing and and much
more conveys this nuda this
point and I I conclude with I hope the r
is not here you said RAB cron is at town
I really and and you know I'm I'm I'm a
straight
shooter if you don't invite me again so
be
it there has to be a sheer in in this
sh that's right and reab cron to Ellie
told me you guys went to the oil
recently right you don't got to be aure
start if you can't get someone local I
come from from burrow Park I live in
burrow
park it should be once a week an hour
once a
week some men some women whatever this
that you'll figure out all the religious
issues your Rabbi and you you guys will
decide how you want to set it up but
really and if we could make
more in Young Israel shs in modern
Orthodox shoes in all kinds of shoes I
think the r would be I know the r would
be very very happy and the sure would be
happy and this will bring to each and
every one of you
here tremendous Mor in your personal
life and as Ellie
said when you when you when you get to
know a laaber from the inside who knows
the inside and you get to know and I
don't mean only myself but there are
there are some like that you know
they're still left they're not a relic
in a in a
museum and you open yourself up you'll
enrich your life so DAV your help that I
hope that uh this will be done somehow
and uh I understand that the the r here
is going to be making a five years and
all that well I have a
Kish so this laab here has a Kish that
is started in
2017 I'm teaching my today online and I
have someone teaching
R and in
so we participate and we do hope
hashem's help to to be to be able to be
in Ro to
teach okay and by the way I don't know
if your Rabbi told you or if you know
the r wasn't the greatest proponent of
makah just for the record the Reb wasn't
either but the r you the rebb but the r
and I think his son Kim salv just spoke
um Dr bashen just interviewed him on his
podcast and he says it it's very
interesting to listen to he says that
about his father but that's not the
point and and and and Rabbi Riskin of
course he he tells over I think I have
it in the the book The ra the Reb his
story how he came to the r and he said
he wants a to go and the r said
what but it that's not the point the
point is that he didn't want to go to
do and you know it's a different time
not going to go into it it's a different
time they should help that we should all
be to have
the the real G not fake G the real G the
real true Redemption through mhia and
I'll turn back to floor now to know you
don't want to speak anymore so we'll
take some questions and answers now okay
questions comments don't don't be
bashful
please no no one's going to speak
question yes please first of all I'd
like to uh say I've started reading the
book and it's fantastic what is your
name sir I'm not going to say
okay but um okay I I also am the poster
child of the beneficiary of kabad
because I travel all over the world and
uh I'm just I'm just in awe of kabad I'm
been talking about Asia Europe here uh
and and what's done um if you know Benny
zipple and and Utah the things that are
just done I I just I'm in such off but
I'm I'm really a closet uh sociologist
and I'm fascinated by a comment you made
that these religious it's not so much
religious the these we're allad
preachers oh