vyadata #10- Must refine yr environment to be wholesome - Split in Ger & other Chasidic groups

okay we're on page uh what is it 210 or 212 hillel okay i got talking to yoni i forgot to bring it out yeah we are on page 211. 212. so let's go we're holding on top we're talking about the nephesh obama's and the eight zahara and the difference between subjugation control versus uh versus actual transformation in um aramaic and the words are eskafiya versus ishap it's kafiyev comes from the hebrew word lokuf to bend to control and this hapka comes from the word laha folk to actually transform okay so let's go and the webinar says it says that and he gave a beautiful example that when you uh when you have a wall you want the wall to fall down to come down and you give assets the wall the the that already loosens the strength of the wall weakens the strength of the wall and it's only a matter of time that the wall will fall down so two the first sets is the most important thing good morning it reminds me of a story that mental fotafast would repeat he would say what do you think the hasidim of the mithla rebbe the mitchell it was you know the the rebbe that taught very deep hasidis and his son were so deep and intellectual they wrote entire forum for them and very difficult concepts so mendel would repeat in the name of hasidim you think that they were all that way those were a select few but the average question was simple and he expressed it this way that the city of the the middle area would say i give you a zest and you give me a zest i give you a a jab and you give me a jab but you know how you going to shul and this guy tells you off and you tell him off and that's what a a steeple and that's what that's the way it is you know that's that's that's the beauty of the the jewish shul and especially the steeple and all that and then the middle of this cousin would say and the question is oh he would say not the question you say and i hope and wish that i i'm the one giving him the last sets who's going to give the last sets he or i you understand so here we're talking about a zest of banging a wall giving the wall a good zest and here we're talking about not the last sets but the first sets the first reach in the wall already ostensibly has crushed the wall although the wall still standing but the wall has been breached by the way that's why sarah batavis the next upcoming fast is all about the breaching right the breaching of the walls that are sarah potavus or is that another one uh no sarah batavis is the they surrounded the wall anyway let's go further oh come out there um so we that we learned so let's go we're talking about the oh so we spoke about a yate sahara that's either cold or or yet naps obama is cold or passionate and transforming each we learned that yesterday um the heemic sieve we're holding by the words for zelda of the holy with all of your heart it should have said this with one base of rum why does it say base base two [Music] that you have to serve a god and love god not only from the heart that's called the it's a two of heart but you also have to make the ate sahara somehow love hashem this is in essence and then is when we have what's called shameless completion who don't have completion i'm not complete ah that's that's not a novelty that's simple ah come on kiss you you would think the nephew shall kiss on its own is complete says the rabbit no ah before it came into this world look at this this is a kiddish this neshama is all good it's pure what does that ever say here before it descended into a body it was not slaymut it was not is a half of a body he's missing his other half kamiki nephesh will let go so to the soul without his body ain't a penis lameness is not complete that's why the soul was sent below to invest itself in a body tba seller milo aina prince lamas because wild in the summer was above it was not complete when the coast came the beating the southern shovel [Applause] and all it does is it works on its own spirituality and it has no interest in his body he never found the enzo bushlameless that's not completion if you hear it over here if you sit in a corner and you learn day to night which is like so like and you don't elevate the world around you your neshama is not much lameless you're doing a great thing but you're not doing the greatest thing the greatest thing is to have your learning transform the world too of course the litvished world will disagree with this where they say just to learn is the best thing for your neshama but khasithis the belgento disagrees this is not just the previous level writing this this is based on the teachings of belgium and we're coming from utas kislev this is a fundamental difference between pre balchampto and postpartum this that we just learned here is one of the major differences and a very important one and everyone should decide what they think is right and what they want to follow but this is the fact to go say that the soul without a body is not the slamus is uh is a heavy statement in other words of course a soul has to come into a body but once you come into the body what's what's your interest in the body one answer is one approach is no interest exclude the body you just be spiritual you be holy you learn day and night and that's it forget about anything around you forget about ella comes along the balchamptov it says if we do that the body that god gave us will come to haunt us and one day you will revert back and today you see it's so common especially with younger people where they go on on a trip and they get excited and they can go to artistrol and it lasts for a while and they come back and they revert back to their own self because they weren't taught to integrate properly their spirituality with their physicality and material world and it becomes a dichotomy and ultimately you know who wins the material world wins the goof wins the world wins and we have a lot of problems because of that you know the other the other example is i remember there was a student in chabad in the 80s who he was a genius he had a phenomenal memory he decided to he wants to join the kleisenberg rebbe organized an organization called mifa where over the course i think of three years you learn you learn by heart the entire shots so of course for you know very very good heads with with memories and all that and he decided he wants to do it and he was on his way or maybe he did it but he get cracked up he had a breakdown now i'm not the professional to tell you that's because of that because he didn't sleep much he didn't need much uh maybe he was you know generic in genetics but the point is it didn't help the situation when you when you go to an extreme and you don't integrate it with the world around you you're looking for a lot of trouble that has to be um you know you have to be very careful not to go that approach that rambam does right that in order to get rid of an ugly character trait you have to go to the other extreme but he writes clearly it's temporarily right and then you got to go back go back to the hamitsuha to the middle path so clearly what is the what is the what is the objective the middle path not the extreme now if you ask that to a guerrilla hosted the real gareth has seen him who identified with kusk katsuka would say whoever is in the middle and not an extremist is like a horse with work walking in the middle of the road so you want to be a horse walk in the middle but that's not the of most other eden see them and so we always had in judaism and the citizen we always had individuals who were very powerful who called for extreme measures but even today now you probably know this has been a a breakup in the garam movement for so many years gare was all one finally they uh they they also joined the the two rebbe system which is very common today there's only one or two other groups square and bells that are still holding out and the word on the street is that after their ebby's pass on um there probably will be what peacefully or not peacefully there'll be a a two rebbe system a multi-rabbi system like they have envisioned it or every with it is it peaceful in gear oh no it's oh come on i don't know it it it it is as worse as as bad as it gets it is terrible one second one second i mean you know what when sophomore split and the two rebbes i don't think it was even as bad as it is now they're literally uh ostracizing people and forcing people and throwing kids and teachers out of schools the the the the the new uh rush of shiva by shawl alter he came to brooklyn two three weeks ago there were ten thousand people that came to participate in his malava mauka and they had to have police outside not just you know for safety but so that the opponents shouldn't make trouble so it's really become very ugly it's it breaks my heart it's it's it's terrible it's really terrible and uh i wrote i spoke about this in one of my clips you know we live in we live in a liberated world and a jewish liberated world then if if there's a group that wants to take someone and make him their rash of shiva and even their rebbe they have free will anyway now moshe's your turn okay he's busy let's go back to the text and when we do that we create unity through service serving god i know is is using this idea to explain the second part of the passage of the verse in verse khan for your dietary you shall know today so we spoke at length about vyadaita haiyong about both words now he's focusing the hashe voice of you should make your heart be attentive so look what he says which is the complete complete wholesome picture in the uh gum kane then you should also know kia shemo ali kim in other words means pay attention but it's referring not to listen to this not to not just to be a dieter the mind knowing it's referring to the practice the practice of bringing gateshead nepheshan bombings and efficiently kissed together to unite them so the first the rebels teaching a wonderful lesson the first concept of the advaita you shall know refers to understanding studying and understanding that voice of the next words and make your aloe vera make your heart be attentive means take your heart liver which has two bases yet even yet to hurt right wash your voice and make to be attentive by uniting them beautiful beautiful tights let's continue um and he says we bring the two hearts together there are swash lemurs then you have completion in us i take the gum cane then you will also know kill shamu ali kim i don't know if he's alluding to but to me it always sounds like he's saying he'll then you'll know that hashem will again because hashem of the king is also like two opposites elohim is terrible nature hashem yudhkevky supernatural so when will you know that hashem who hello kim when you yourself will do us a similar act to our shambhala kim bringing the nephesh our bombings and then officially kiss together yes hello and also uh we see the navi that we read on hanukkah the the the naval of taking the stick with one says yosef and uniting them as one it's a very similar right about kind of a slain of the jewish people yes yes correct there's a there are maram up there obey him starting with the altered on that bossic let me just finish the line nymphs are moving we understand from this the beholding and efforts are bombings by gate sahara shrill or void of a bitter that why does shem give us this headache god why do you have to give us a hate to hurt enough bombers i like you i want to serve you just just keep me keep me why do i need these temptations says that but the whole reason is to be to refine the world take the world we're in and make it holy holy five the world sanctify the world then you have flameless if you don't do that you don't have slavers you might bring very nice things but you need to you know there's a kumara the kamaru says ashrae misha balakan lucky is the one that comes here to garnet and is learning in his hand so you know the the joke is bring along your gamora learn da fa me and bring along tomorrow when you go to canadian after 120 you'll say to to god in heaven hey let me take on aidan because i have my gamora here i studied da fa me and that's that's a nice nice board the same is true on the buses here even they give you a seat if you have a gamer in your hand anyway but for talmud my shirt and your study you're learning not just your talmud doesn't mean talmud it means you're learning what do you mean why is your learning in your hand a cause to get an entryway into paradise to gun aidan so one of the explanations is because the talmud is beyond you have to look at the word beyond it's in your hand you've taken the learning and you've transformed your hand hand represents action mice deed work you learned taylor so much that you transformed your deeds your action oh if so i'm letting you into ghanaian you hear that frankly the types came to me right now as i'm teaching you i never i've never thought of it but i love it i think it's yes moshe what so i'm sorry i'm just looking in the text and the where do we see is that no it's not it's not here no it's not here no no no no i'm using that as an example it's not in the text in the mimer in the mimer we we just finished learning make sure that that again very important that if you're not navarre and misaki and if you don't refine the goof through your neshama he says over and over here ain't lameness that's what the previous episodes here and i mentioned earlier that not everyone agreed to that right and so i'm but i'm elaborating as an example i'm using another hazal as an example to support this claw this idea ash the mother cells says elsewhere ashrae me er shibola khan lucky is the man who comes here referring to ghanaian you know after 120 and vital and his learning is with him so in other words he gets in and he's able to continue his learning that's the simple meaning of that hazal then i said also the the little joke about the face you know about the the the the the da fa me but then i interpreted my my own thought that just came to me is why why is ashrae why are you lucky to to you're lucky to get in and to be there because your learning is with you so i said because the talmud be your dough is you coming along with your learning in your hand hand symbolizes deed work action you have your learning has transformed your deed and your action your hand and that's why it's ashrae in other words to support what we just said now if you would come along with just a soul just on the summer and forget about tran refining the world around you it wouldn't be ashrae the ultimate of ashrae of pleasure of holy pleasure is when you transform gosh mister and that's why god sent the soul into the body to the shrimp into the goof hashem had a great time with souls he didn't need the reason why he wants them here is because ultimately they don't bring me pleasure angels don't bring me pleasure souls pre descending into a body don't blend pleasure they're all nice fascinations they're all nice fascinations my you wanted to say something earlier when i was talking about the uh gerrard and all that i saw your hand went up thank you i'm sorry my wife told me i i wanted to ask just i wasn't i think i had heard something about garrett but i haven't heard about it for a while and i didn't realize and i thought there was only one at the current moment i thought there was only one rabbit this was the altar the the rabbit the the rabbi of gear that's been the rebel for 20 25 years for many years is rabbi yaakov alter yankel alter and that's the establishment a few years ago a group of 250 people which is funny because it says that korach and his people were 250 people that rebelled so 250 people or members or whatever to a point took their russia shiva he rap and he's a fantastic speaker and he's a real he's like a kabob you know really just open a forthright and no stick to him you know if you look at some of the videos how he finishes the talk he says and and he says for the goodbye and he walks up he doesn't make no you know stick you know what i'm saying he is very down to earth so they appointed him as the rabbi of a new shoulder they made and ultimately they really consider him as their rebbe that's what i was referring to and it's so interesting to me that you're sitting in bed chemistry mission i know i'm here in america and i know so much more about him anyway um yeah it's uh it's it's it's really to me it's a shonda i'm sorry to say it's a real shame it's a you know i can understand the split up but but it's going what's going on you can't imagine so is the issue that that some some of the uh some of his people are calling them him and and disciple disciples of the current rep are objecting to that as like a breakaway yeah but but he'll not not even if they're calling him a rabbit the fact that they broke away and they're basically in other words whether you call him a rebber a rabbi or rav that's semantics to them i think at this point but but of course the rabbit concept is the ultimate you know but the fact that they broke away in other words they the establishment had everyone under them under them everyone even though many were not happy what happened is when grebayakov became the rebbe slowly but surely he eliminated the deep study called eon we learned this in our my mourinho he eliminated pretty much eon study by by by in the yeshivas he he said that that today generation you need to cover more ground and and and they're not equipped you know of course there's always individuals and gear the system of learning going back 150 years was always very deep analysis you know different than than lithuanian but in their approach they were very you know ill and all of a sudden he comes and says no so he's changing they felt the mesora their own minnesota they felt that he's changing so that upset a lot of people then there was an issue of do you encourage newly married gareth haseetham to stay in hudsolaarets or come back to eretz's row and he voted these are people who had come from israel and had gone to learn in the states not not gone to learning somehow they they married an american or australian or in england they they married a spouse that was uh from gutsilores so i believe he he gave a dick he gave a instruction that they should not come back they should stay in america or coutures and be part of one of the people that was killed in marone it was from ballpark it was a bar it was a barber but the but the parents were from israel they were guaranteed to see them that moved to ballpark and something that the parents didn't come to heritage royal to [Music] to it was too painful for them or something like that so they wound up doing the leviah yeah but i'm not talking about that talk i hear you but i don't i don't know about that i'm talking about the shita whether newly married garrett hossett who marries an american or an uh australian etc or canadian hudson should they come back or should they stay in where they are and and be part of the guerrilla cluster gary hasidis there and until him until this yakov the that was you come back here you come back there to stroll this is where we are this is where derek has seen this is the fact that you have a steeple here and there are for those that are you know the from the ones that were americans or europeans that came were saved after the war and and they stayed in america but the rio has seen them especially the movie married guys you belong in eric's row and he said no he said stay there and build their community and that outraged a lot of people so that's number two number two why he um why many people are unhappy and finally this rap show outer who's such a talmud such a going he puts he puts the rebel in his little back pocket and he puts most rebels in his back pocket he's he's going okay someone wrote the other day he's number six in learning in architectural i don't know how they know who's one two three but he's he's on topics and i i was i was in rehab here one shoppers you know over the years and um the place was swamped in the the khal khasi dum shul over there shahrukh khaseed and and because he was the guest speaker i'm telling you you couldn't get through he's so popular he's he's a great speaker he's down to earth he makes you know people like him he's just good you know what i'm saying is it easy so that's so and they didn't invite him to family weddings they mummish i you know did and he kept quiet for years and he still kept quiet but his his his followers who were tell me them of his said our russia shiva is getting abused enough and they said that's it that's it so two three years ago they decided to make their own minion for cincus torah and the rest is history you can't imagine he was received by all the rebels in brooklyn in muncie super vision it's this that and and and no one blinked deny that what's the real gary gonna say everyone rolled out the carpet and he probably raised a lot of money they're building their own yeshivas and jerusalem on buildings on haters it's it's it's already a complete a complete break people have asked me people have asked me even like is it right in other words from from a philosophical shita perspective if you belong to a hasidis whether you like it or not you have a right to break away it's it's it's a question it's a good question now if you if you don't belong to the sheet to the casitas you know then you can do what you want but if you identify who is to decide that a breakaway is acceptable not acceptable the simple answer is i the simple answer is it's not why because the rebel figure in a hasidic movement it starts from on top and it goes down on the other hand on the other hand right ain't melech below um a king is not a king unless he has subjects a nation people let's talk about our river right our ever had no interest in being a lebanese forever he was a he wanted to sit and learn and help people quietly but he worked for the office you know kahas americas he did things for khabad very important things has see them forced in a sense to become rapid and they put pressure and and and you know what i'm saying so it took and especially the young guys the soldiers went out and publicized and like like they do today in their own way in different things so if not for the for the people he wouldn't be rabbit he wouldn't want to be rather but once you you have a rather in the hasidic world in the belgentive world the rebbe is the one that established establishes law and order so if that's the case one second units if that's the case even though there was this these things that i told you about before about the gary wrap and the complaints and the issues is it right for them to to to establish a new rabbit so you see so here hilo is where the issue of rebel versus rogue is very important to have another school a breakaway vatican but you know but but to say you're you're you're you're choosing and making a person a new guerrilla that's a much more serious philosophical issue okay unison what do you say i just want to ask is he from i mean uh the name alta was the name of the caduce yes yes they're all they're all great great grandchildren yeah they were different brothers it's all family yes jonasson yeah well look the s it's 1979 which is interesting we're talking about it today is the day you would save from the nazis today of kislev you know the joke that they say in satmir hasidis lasted for two days utes kiss live the balatanya was released from jail so we celebrate her citizen so it lasted utes and huff and today khofalif when we celebrate the soccer who said the torah of the has been forgotten and we really don't know what hasidah says so how long did it last from your testicle i've never heard that yeah well it's around here it's common so there's a kind of a split going on also in saudi gore yeah yeah i don't understand it i don't know in a moment i just want i just want to finish responding to unison you're innocent so after the sacrament of europe passed away in 79 his nephew known as a moisture he was called rabbisha table by him he was called the segatara of the rav from secret he was appointed and that was also major mahalakis between the real storms students of the sacrament the rabbits and fager they wanted the rabbits to continue functioning as the sapler river and most of them didn't yeah yeah yeah not you know what i'm saying is that anyway that was one that happened in in 1980 you know it was a lot of controversy then and then when he passed away he had two sons are in a zombie they're called the uh zom the salmons and the iron the the aeronium and there's almighty that's the way they're called yeah really yeah and guess what now i can't say you know they're pretty much at peace they're people and each one has thousands ten twenty thousand to see them and they have meisters and and everything else but yes there was a split and um there still is you know some ill feeling um you know but uh it it's it's not the the fight and um but it was it was at the time a a a big recall a big a big uh and and now gary's going through it now going back to saudi gourd so god bless the saudi arabia that suddenly passed away he was a young man i think in the 70s and he 60s i think moshe i think moshe knows a little bit because i think rabbi the the rob the the the rav right okay so he left the will and in his will he says that he wants his youngest son he had four or five sons and sons he left the will that that he should be the the rebel and that alarmed everyone and you look at him he's a young man he could be as a good man and a holy man i i but you know it's it's very shocking so uh naturally this this it's not going to be accepted by everyone and and there's been dentoras and it's again but but at least you have to understand saudi girls is con i don't i think tell me if i'm wrong it's not it's not as big as as as as care you understand yes they they have a few that one second one should they have a few you know yeshivas in other words it's not ugly you know what i'm saying okay if they have a disagreement they're going to court then to pass then and they'll work it out but here i mean you can't imagine the the terror terrorism the what they do to families um cutting off their lifeline telling grandkids not to talk to the grandfathers do you know what that means yes malaysia yeah just regarding study guru i think what happened in the end is the youngest son is the rabbit i think in banay brock i think one of the sons they decided [Music] i think in london and one of the sons i believe that that's what was um i just it's just interesting because i just happened to spend a little bit of time with the with rav shapiro with the piazza that's not his son on sunday we happened to go together to uh uh for one of the people in the shul and uh we spent a little bit time talking actually so he mentioned that came up in conversation what i'm sharing with you now uh-huh so so it's it's quieted down you're saying i got that impression i definitely got that impression well halaway would be that way in garrett you know above you know bothered in brooklyn also had a major split but it's pretty much now uh under control you know there's you know and i dive in and you know you know sometimes in above shul which you know there are people from both factions you know but um there's no uh you know we're saying and and and gary it'll it'll uh you know it'll don't pa they'll pass they'll get over it but right now it's uh it's really inflamed i mean you know you know it you know how we got to this conversation why i mentioned it because it's not part of the sheer because we were learning about you know the extremism that the get the cutscene rebels said if you walk in the middle of the road you know you're like a horse a horse walks in the middle of the road but he believed you should be an extremist so that made me think about this extremism is where you know you become terroristic you become you know you you go all out you don't you don't give room and um i think it's it's very important for us in our lives and with families and friends and people to understand there are such people and there are such situations and and you have to assess the situation properly in other words if you talk to someone who is an extremist by nature and you and and and you and you suggest a middle-of-the-road path for them it's not going to work for most people it'll work but by nature they can only exist in in an extreme form you know i mean it's you know you're a social worker you know i i just think of it you know because some people you know they they just don't they they don't know i just fought bringing i was for brain the other night in in hollywood florida with a friend a friend meaning we were together in camp garnier's role in the parksville new york and the catskills in the 70s we learned that in different yeshivas but we know each other our parents are friends and and i'm sitting there and you know he bought a few of my books and then he saw my book so he turned to me says this is too much for me this i can't take tara of a diastolic i can still swallow but i can't like and and and then a few things during the far brain game you know he said quietly to me and i see that you know he hasn't been able to make a shift in who he is which is which is who he is you know and i i'm i i'm looking at him you know both the same age grew up in the same kind of culture and and yet i was that way i understand that extremism and that uh zealotry but when you go out and you teach and you travel and you meet people then and and you want to do what it says in the mimer you want to elevate the world to bring to you got to calm down you know i i remember tell you a personal story when i came to marin county in 1984 i came out of 770 i was 23 years old newly married four months after we were married my wife and i we went on and we had a group of bali chuva you know former brooklynites you know and they became bali chuva and and some others and it was a real real nice group and interested in learning and so for me you know for a new schliak this is this is god sent that's what you want right you want to teach you want to be my spear and one of there was an event and uh no this wasn't sure once i think that's simple story i forget when one of these people was diving into monastery and his feet were like this says that we stand from an anesthesia your feet are supposed to be together because we're like a mother who has one foot right so this the placing of the feet together is like this not like shouldn't be like that which by the way a lot of people in brooklyn don't do it i have no i can never understand and i've asked them you guys know that put your feet together because to them i can speak that way and whatever they don't do it so i went over to this to this congregant and nicely i just with my foot tapped his shoe to move it over kind of you know and after schmonash after davening he came over to me he was very upset like why are you doing that rabbi like you know and i well i was coming from a good place i i was like trying to help him be more religious he took it as an insult you know you're embarrassing me in front of everyone else and and i remember i i had this discussion with my wife after this happened and my wife said to me you know you're not in 770 you're not in brooklyn you're not in in gaul or may assuring you know you're dealing here yes they're bolly chuva but they don't know any better you got you got you got to really slow down yes forgive me i'm sorry i have someone i have someone i have to meet now but forgive me i'm gonna go forgive me i gotta go too i've have a good job the travis everyone see everyone until next week is a monday thank you have a great day and have a great hanukkah sunday we we will we will learn monday okay zeitgeist take care bye-bye