Tanya #28a Indulging in Kiddushim is it ok? Neutrality must be sublimated - Rabbi Chaim Dalfin

what were you saying yes sir yes sir he said what are you saying where is this sir got lost anyway yeah I had internet issues okay so the Lakota is that we're learning about here I'm glad you should mentioned that is that there is there is a realm which is completely Bad Evil which is called Charles that we finished with chapter six now we're on chapter seven chapter seven he says that there's two aspects to Clipper there's one aspect which is bad complete then one is it's it's not good it's ego but but but but but it's not that it's completely bad so so that's what we're talking about here and here it says and what he's saying is it's not enough to draw my art I'm not doing anything bad am I bothering anyone but drawing flowers outside I'm drawing flowers who am I bothering what prohibition says you're wasting time what's the purpose of drawing flowers so he's drawing the flowers can Kim is English then the drawing of flowers is Meaningful and it's Godly and it's good otherwise it's never sharp obvious I enjoy flowers and the color of flowers and dried flowers I draw flowers new it's not godliness it's it's part of man's desire which we call ego yes that's what he says right now let's continue let's see what he says further we're now on the second line but how cold page 22. and when everything is influenced and drawn from the second level of clipper which we call the fourth Clipper right there's three and this is number four there's one category of three and this is this considered the fourth even though this is except only a second category he that's what causes is he called from the second of Clippers democracy clipping if he's in the class Clippers this is called the translucent clip uh the Clipper that has some light ning in this world that's called the world of action the majority of most things here mostly are bad I messed up there's a little good that's mixed into everything here which he says in the brackets should be men of boys meet this type of shipment should be spoken because we learned in the end of chapter one from this little good within the nepheus comes the good attributes that every Jew has which we discussed compassion and benevolence the he the he goes in it the he refers to the left to the clippersnaiga says this is a intermediary but shoulders Clippers between the three complete contaminated Clippers who Bane and between the other side of the level of Holiness therefore foreign and it gets involved and it enters the realm of complete negativity as it says commercial face crime shot in them down that they spit it down the same as they are giving us the citation over there after the brackets now upon me and at other times this little good that we said is within all of bad in this barrier with its refined from the bed the engraving in its overpowers for oil and ascends with nicklin and it's absorbed the caducea in Holiness and it gives us now a few examples look at the examples yes really quick yes okay I'll give you an example it's just an example but there's many things that you can use this we can talk about let's say going to a wedding okay it's a mix where I go to the Hopewell go to the wedding but you're going to go to the smorgasbord and you're going to go fresh that this smorgasbord and you're gonna say I'm doing this for the Mitzvah but you know yeah it's very hard to be on that much Rigo because a lot of people are going to go let's say I'm going to beat it for you know for this Smorgasbord so like I'm having a hard time with this and okay your example's a good one and the answer is if you're fasting at the smorgasbord it's not the same samayam it's not now you go to a simcha and if it's a sudas Mitzvah and you wash the washing is the sweetest Mitzvah the fleshing and the eating the stuffing yourself is not sorry it's just not so you did two things you did a mitzely you washed through the Smiths no one could take that away from you and that stuff in your life like a Bahama you're an animal that's all well what's the contradiction no the contradict it is because I'm just thinking to myself like you know on shoppers right you see everybody go to a good kid-ish right and and they say it's different Tyra and they go to a front brain and they do this but you see literally they gotta open up their pants before they start on the children again so it's the same answer there when they stuff themselves it's not like and we don't have to even come to such an example although it's a good example it's just with basic eating you sit down to eat supper at night are you eating the same or not you know what the shape of shamaya means the shape it practically that you say this I don't need to eat it's an Indulgence that you don't need it and and the change of mind means I you know I'm hungry I always say you know I remember in your Morristown Yeshiva you're in the Sun we went out um Hanukkah to give out manoras or poor him give out and we're many times for hours in the car and visiting places and we were hungry and in those days I I didn't you know I was I was about Yeshiva I didn't eat potato chips and drink Coca-Cola that was not that was antithetical to my uh to my to my voice Hashem it's telling you you know but it was a a time when I was so hungry that's all they had so I took a Coca-Cola and I took potato chips now in so overall that's not a taiva at that given time unless I start indulging in the flavor of the Coca-Cola and the potato chips and then it becomes a tiger and this is this so this is an alfredo it's a heart avoida and it's it's it's an age-old Chabad avoid that's not spoken about or practiced but the word must be him and teachers in the previous generation who made a big issue my father's in France and there's some tomidemic of theirs you know students by Goldberg and the rabbi gorevich and they're still you know whether they live that way I don't know but they came from people who who live this way my father always told me growing up how reminiscent would give you and half of an egg and he would and he said again whether he and his friends believed this it wasn't because he didn't have the other half of the egg he didn't want you to indulge he gave you only half of an egg could you imagine we can't believe it maybe this is what you just said now I now cut something that's a 25 years I didn't understand what is that no my wife told me that in her grandfather's house okay she would go for the theater she'd go for the theater face stuff but she would go for Shabbos he would only give them Prasad Mr Young dip a schnapps glass of soda and if they wanted more he would yell at them and say what kind of tickets are you that's all okay okay okay so it sounds like he was falling in those footsteps you know but but you know that's not who we are today and it and like the rabbit told this reminiscent from France when he asked the red but he's in the 1970s or 50s or 670s he came to the rep and he said I see that the students today are not like in Russia they can't handle these half of eggs and and not eating much they need to eat well and the river said agreed it's called the scoffia we've learned it many times to hold yourself back and and the rabbit said today is that when 220 is the time when we in 770 when you finish the first seder the first you know this man of learning and you go to lunch some people rush and they run across the street was the is the was the kitchen 749 so the represent is Garfield today means you shouldn't slam you can mirror down at 220 when you hear the patch on the bema the first say there's the goal but continue learning and slowly close your Gamora and then go and number two the represent when they crossed 770 the Eastern Parkway because the kitchen was on the other side they should have a mind they the tire of course they should be careful how they cross but they should speak still be thinking about what they learned to the Gomorrah so you see clearly that there's been a change but there's not been a change with to say I'm gonna stuff myself and say this will shame shame I am so it it yeah it's I don't care what people say it's it's a fallacy everyone knows whether I can be eating the most kosher thing and today we live in the culture I don't want to get into we have to learn Tanya now we've said this many times we live in a culture you'll get a extra for br for fake bread imitation Bread on Pizza I'm just I'm just asking why because someone must have that or fake or imitation bacon because basically all the michigasu that they have with Cheerios I mean you know it's just gone overboard so the shame but but at the same time someone needs to have for health a certain food it can be the biggest tiger for me but for them and the doctors here will tell us it's basic right it's basic Survival let's say ensure I don't know if you have what you have in there to throw that America we have ensure it's a milk like a product that gives you vitamins but it's called it's Hollow vacuum it's not Hall of Israel it's made of milk I know very from people kept call of Israel all their life but at the point when the doctor says You must have this you must have it and if you don't you're going to become weak and die it's your choice so in other words okay here we're talking about holiday Silver's called welcome so you can say to me so they're abundant I'm not going into the the I'm talking about the general idea that for one person ensure is if someone keeps called Israel ensure is not acceptable and for the other person it's a mid to it because the doctor says You must have it so how do you look at that that's the word over here so you know your wife's grandfather comes from used to always talk about his his pictures on his wall which some of them weren't uh uh sneas okay and we're gonna leave it at that okay and once when he called me into this house and I was a Bach and Yeshiva and I picked my head up I ran the other way and he's like come on you know like what are you doing you know you just see me you know for him for him I meant to sing he sees that he sees the beauty of Hashem he's an artist okay I won't mind a challenge I couldn't do it I'm not an artist you know and the same as even with writing I I'm writing you know certain things that works that I write that for the average person they shouldn't be writing it it's it's because they can't handle it because they're not in that world you have to be in a certain world so as long as it's neutrality then it could either be sublimated or it can be downgraded one of the two and this is a this is a very very sensitive area and it's a daily avoida and it never stops till after 120. every day of one's life we have the challenge between kadusha and and the opposite and how are we going to elevate I told you a story this neurologist from Long Beach California these are vanilla members he came to me came to Yeshiva in Los Angeles when I was there learning and he says you know he has a beat up jalopy this broken old car he comes to a meeting with important neurologists his friends and they come with nice cars normal cars and he comes with a a beat-up car and he says it's it's like you know but he knows that he's not supposed to indulge so he's asking me if if it's okay for him to buy himself a decent looking car and I said of course it is that you'll make a kitty Hashem but you have to understand that his question isn't outrageous you know he's coming he he's right if I'm buying that car and it boosts my ego then it's what the outlet says here then you've taken neutrality and you've put it into trouble Sleepers at the mayors and this is an ongoing thing so we're not suggesting we're not suggesting to be uh Hermits and and and and a point like that that's not the derivative of the whole direction is to use gaussians but at the same time to avoid what you were saying you know you need not to not to to to to to to fake yourself and and convince yourself that I'm using the goshmias for God and really it's just from my own pleasures and desires and ego and this is where people have either success seated in Life or failed this area from the biggest of the biggest to the lowest of the lowest if there is such a thing people have at times convinced themselves and it's a fallacy and a lie it's not true and at other times yes so it it all depends on the individual and guess what this is not something that you could this comes from inside only you know what is your kavana in in in in this gosh business what is your kavana So This Is A Private Matter this is not a a public matter yes from the in the public it looks a certain way so people pass judgment and it's an ongoing thing that that that that's the issue that we deal with daily it but this is really as the trader says it's in the love in the heart so let's continue let's continue I want to continue now the muscle look at the muscle we're middle of the page come back muscle for example someone who eats here's your example Savvy fat meat good meat a good good laptop steak I am of Muslim he drinks intoxicating wine purim's coming he drinks a wine that you can have a good one cup or two you're already gonna be flying why does he do it something called we call sadas broad-minded or as they say in the New Age World expanded Consciousness okay right tell me all about it expanded consciousness yeah expanded Consciousness okay so he drinks a lot of wine to have expanded consciousness so that when he learns Taylor he has expanded brains his brain can think Beyond its little narrow-minded way of thinking normally Secrets why and he eats a life feels good he's now feels fat from the meat Rich from the intoxicated wine as Robert said it's a gomoran you my belief wine and its taste smell and taste gives you Piko smarts speaking about your example he eats This truly to fulfill the Mitzvah of pleasure on Shabbos if indeed this is true uh Zion is at that time the energy that comes from this meat and this wine is refined this barrier normally it received its hashboy its influence its energy from the net from the Clipper Snyder for the translucent Clipper because it's neutral it's kosher wine and Kosher meat but when you eat it with the shame kadusha then it's all in a sense to God another example someone who makes a joke a riddle a joke we're not talking about frivolity we're not talking about you know obscene jokes and things like that which we call it Sonos with Sonos is forbidden remember we learned in chapter one and Tanya we're talking about uh something that is smart you know a riddle really it's a riddle the fake to open up the minds and to make the heart be happy Allah Hashem to for God will tell us if we're staying alive it does in his service okay so a good speaker begins with a joke or a story or this or that to try to get you off off edge and and and and and feel comfortable as he continues speaking or a good teacher for that matter okay did with his students he said a riddle before he began and the rabbis the students who were rabbis of Rabbi of rabba they laughed they enjoyed if you're a glutton and your age savior um an abuser of wine yeah you're an alcoholic you just like to drink but mama's time is good for you do this to fulfill your own bodily pleasures of an official bombers and your animal Soul which is associated with the element of water associated with the four elements as they're associated with evil because like we said at the end of chapter one and Tanya anger and ego and frivolity and depression and all of that should remember me this type of the meter of taiva the attribute of lust of Desire comes from the element of water Unison as because of water makes all kinds of things grow in all your days there when you do that is you lower the energy of the meat and the wine that's within you then temporarily it's entered the realm of complete evils of the three contaminated Clippers completely the goofing and your body becomes a garment the two of the Covenant Chariot with his shot temporarily Adam until men will do chuva returns and it'll return to Hashem into state and we're stopping here till tomorrow but this is the nakoda the point is it's a scale you either elevate it or you lower it so to fool yourself for us to fool ourselves that we're neutral in this world there's no there's neutrality but quickly right away it either goes this way or that way you understand yes what do you want to say until chocolate [Music] no that's not no no no no no no no no because if you eat for time are you eating for taiva if you're eating for taiva you're eating for taiva wait [Music] and Shabbos if you live with Shabbos and you feel Shabbos and you are Shabbos you're right but if you but what do you think this is we just go we're going to Shoppers and all of a sudden we're no it doesn't work that way you have to become Shabbos so yes if you become Shoppers no problem it's an oxymoron I mean it's Shabbos and it's um full in this foreign of just you know abusing the mitzvah that you so there that's why I gave you the I gave you the example of washing you're washing you're making kid dish that's a midsole that's Mitzvah but then when you start indulging then you take in the highest that's what he says here that's what the outfit episode doesn't say this here you understand I'm asking you know that's right it doesn't work that way that's exactly what yany was saying and that's the way people talk and that's why we're learning Tanya it's a lot it's an Irish guy I'm sorry it's false it's not true it's not true you can't just say it's Shabbos and I can and I can indulge it doesn't work that way what we're saying here is that a Shabbos we have the ability to take the food and to make of it an easier Godly experience and I know that you're not going to choose a shopping so they see this explains there's no Bray run Shabbos but doesn't contradict what it says here felt it up is not saying here that because it's sharpest and yomptive or because you're doing the mitzvah I mean the whole idea the whole idea of the swearing let's talk about you know when two people are together in the midst when it's a mitzvah oh the the talk about how you could bring in Clippers into your life by indulging it look look at this small looking older you know in in races they're basically telling you that even when you're in a union for a Mitzvah it could be a very big abuse and you have to you have to refine yourself so the same things with shadows shopping property you bring yourself into the flame work of travel and you even shall not know and then you start eating then you elevate for food fired up but if you don't do that there's a baby look look look I you know there is this thing we discussed that in our assurium over the years what they call the uh valve of the kids club the Shoppers Killers Club then they have uh the Bane I've told you this you know the Bane what's the Bane bana smushes between Twilight Friday night my son-in-law in Tel Aviv I don't know if he still has it but a few years ago I came to shulf a couple you know for minha and there were guys there they had the highams and they you know took High into if if they need that and it's done and it could be kadusha I'm not saying you know but it was just to get yourself stoned and Meshuggah and and that's not acceptable if it's you want to be a little more you had a hard week and you're gonna say look how you mean and you and it could be it could be a condition it could be elevated to condition you understand it's in the perspective you know what I'm saying is a traditional no it's not traditional you know no one grew up having a Bane and this is like so it's a double hudders you know but it's fine it's fine if it's in what do they call it a controlled environment a controlled environment with a with a with a with a genuine you know fine no problem and this isn't every issue that you know it's they had this weekend the sea teens Chabad you know that thousands of teens come from they go to Times Square and they make up dollars yeah no I'm just saying like in my days it was unheard of the whole mussad the whole idea but you know what you know what many most these kids are not religious so what are they doing over here they have a Makita they have a Makita is it the Makita no but it's you know and they make a bracha and they make half dollar and they talk them about filling you know some of them do you have to you have to you have to you know see the situation on the ground and again so if if they bring if they bring you know a singer who's you know singing a Jewish rock and roll this or that and this is what these kids know so I I'm just saying it's all in the perspective and how you facilitate it if it's forbidden it's forbidden but it's not your business it's not forbidden and I think this is a an important issue and you know last night I was speaking to a Chabad Rabbi someone who's been out for 30 years good guy and we're talking about we're talking about a zombie shelter okay because you know guys I'm writing about it now so so he grew up zombie was in his community in Boulder it's a Boulder Colorado for 19 years from 1995 to 2014. and you know and Paul Boulder I'm sure Hillel could tell us about Boulder in Boulder you know it's it's a certain culture you know why you know were you in Boulder yeah you know so yes Jared yeah yeah so it had it's its own world you know so I'm talking to him I'm saying look you know because I've now studied him inside out backwards and forwards from anyone you know right I say here's a person who for whatever reason and their reasons their reasons okay there's nothing without a reason a person on Earth who has a brain does things with a reason but regardless how do you handle a person like that or a situation you know and it's all in that handling and how you take it and I I'm coming more to the conclusion that he wasn't handled right now he was a hard fish to handle he was a very jumpy fish a very bright man everything every day is a new Kiddush you know I'm not saying it was easy but you know when you when you try to squash people into a box and it has to be a certain way and there's no other way and you don't give a person room to use their creativity then people do what they do and and and a lot of times it doesn't fit the establishment in his case it didn't The Establishment I'm not even talking about Chabad would be reformed conservative you know many mo all the established groups had a hard time with with what he did you know in his Jewish renewal and all that but and this so so I'm saying this is what the alternative is saying to you okay if it's those things that are forbidden or forbidden I'm not talking about that but then there are things that are not forbidden so one guy will say well this is not the way you do it I said thank you very much so now you see the result what did you accomplish by by this result so in 1967 when he announced I gave an example I found yesterday bar Hashem Hashem sent it to me an article he spoke at the University of Manitoba Winnipeg in 1967 the the that he he wants to be cremated he wants to go to the Earth with the Jews that went in Auschwitz okay he convinced himself and you know and okay I technologically forbidden he he he he disagreed or didn't care or or did he didn't do right that's 1967. meanwhile he passes away and he's buried not only is he buried he gets the highest type of Orthodox burial and he wanted the Laboratories to bury him which they did who is 67 50 years earlier says burn my body says now bury me like the biggest person which he got buried like the biggest concept well now what happened over here analyze it study think about it the answer is because people don't know but I did the research from many different people from reform to Jewish renewal to Chabad I could put it together we have it I have it basically inside the chabotniks Sai his family and others said to him if you use almond do this you're going to set an example for other people that respect you to burn themselves to cremate themselves you don't want to do that at the same time if you're going to bury yourself like a yeet more people will bury themselves so your students and followers and his family said listen we want to come to a grave we want to come to ashes you know what's my point and I know from one of the Chabad rabbits she spoke to him about this she had he had respect for her over and over she didn't let him go and he accepted he I mean to say he heard her because he saw that she was genuine what's my point my point is that when you work with a person and you warm them up and you make them feel special and you really show you care you can make a difference and at the end that's what happened you understand what happened in 1967 in 1967 when he spoke about cremation denounced him the world denounced him for other reasons too with the LSD know that but I'm just saying for this was another thing that he didn't know I didn't know that because of one of the reasons because of his talk on cremation they said we can't have we can't be associated with you in any way shape or form not that he was working for Chabad at the time but he says like you know come on you know tell everyone you're not the problem she's not working for the rabbi you're not working for the Americas you know I mean you you're saying you want to cremate yourself and he was upset they didn't discuss it then I have an interview which I found yesterday where he says I was upset not because they're wrong because they're right but the way it was done it should be done in private not in public where they told the the Trudy Weiss Rosemary of the Jewish spectator you know they they bad-mouthed him and then questioned his smiha and then it went into the into the journal and the papers the Chabad questions the credentials you have to do it that way you can call me and say hey so we have to publicly make a statement that we can't associate ourselves you and he says I on this I would have understood that because every wrong person understands they looking in with his beard they know he's on the barbecue and all that so they understand my point is so the ostracized him and others ostracizing and what happens so he feels crumb he feels terrible doesn't have a roof he was a divorced which is another whole story so of course he ends up in in in in in in in in fields that are very strange and and different and all that I'm not listen it's a comp every issue is complicated it's not simple but one thing's for sure you have to work with people and when you work with them especially with a lot of other and love and that but you should know that but not as not his staff that ever worked with him in 1975 in 1977-78 that ever told label wolf label wolf of Australia whoops keep in contact with Solomon in 1980s he spoke to Shanta when he was in Philadelphia how is Zalman doing and he says I don't know the rabbit says you don't know and you're a hasid you don't know about another hasid OV and this is you know the the you know and the rabbit gave it to him the river said you don't know and you're a Hassan and there's a laborator living in Philadelphia right near you and you don't know what's going on with his partner how do you like that that was the rebel that doesn't mean that the rebel accepted all this stuff of course not but there's a way to do things and we need to really understand this and live this today with our kids or grandkids our families and but Shemesh with all of them you know issues going on there there are issues but squashing and destroying and and and and ostracizing is not even for someone who's doing things that are contrary to tell you to etc etc so so what I want to know what I'm saying what I'm saying is it it touches upon this is the Kuda that we're learning here in Tanya of of you know taking the the fat wine the the tasty Savvy with the the meat and and the wine and the and the and the behemian the behema and using the behavior for the abstain and working with it and that's the way we accomplished today we're not every every period in other words what was good 50 60 80 years ago isn't necessarily the way to do it today of course the potato doesn't change but the application and that's what I was talking to this Chabad Rabbi like he's still living with 30 40 50 years ago it doesn't work and you know and you have to look back and be a big boy and say we made a mistake and let's not make the mistake again Kevin have a great day see everyone tomorrow leave her brains a little bit take care shalom