Tanya #12 LSD, Alcohol and G-dly Soul - Rabbi Chaim Dalfin

So today we're learning today uh the second chapter of Tanya on page of Pedic base so introduced to us the nephe chabamis okay the the the the what we call the animal Drive the animal soul that every single Jew has where it comes from what its Tendencies are and things like that but he he owes us now he owes us nothing but he said that rights that every Yeet has in the name of the Ariza Spanish two Souls the Netflix of the kiss so now pay the base this is the chapter in Tanya which introduces and teaches us about the nephe Hashem is the nephish how they kiss and let's see what he says painting base Royal in the second soul that a Jew has it's a part of God from above truly it's truly a part of God this is job this isn't the altered it's a posse in Tanakh but the altarebe is the word and and when I say ads if you look into this which I think Hillel has used in learning Tanya and others they give you the source that in different in simply cabola there's also the language there mamish but the the phrase the way it comes out here in Tanya that I believe is unique to the altered in other words in that exact sentence I I think is the altered um own original way of putting it what does mamish mean so mamish means literal actual truly and the question is what is that this the shama they never shall they kissed that every Yeet has is is truly part of God of course what I would think it's not part of God you're telling me it's a part of God godliness within us so what does the word mama said it's it's it seems superfluous so the the Babbage should obey him in the my mother and siddis explain and that have been particular explained that the word mamish comes with the word Mama shoot Mama should be as you can feel tangibility it's tangible and the altariba starts off the chapter right from the beginning from GetGo he tells you he should know this nishama that we have it's not some kind of spiritual entity that we have and that's what it and that's where it remains no In classical Jewish literature if you think about Soul energy and it is novelty is that this becomes tangible that's an awesome insight it becomes my moshe's dick my mushes dick is kind of a Yiddish play on the word mama's dick what is my mushrooms dick means you can touch it you can actually touch the soul you can feel soul and that that begs a question how can I feel so and I'm not talking about you know uh Force false um fantasies without naming names of people who you know thought they could touch the soul and let others to believe that they could touch the soul and it was a bunch of knowledge guys because they lived with with [ __ ] and and and they did sins you can't touch the soul if you're living with sin you're doing sins George nanjew it doesn't work that way it doesn't now can God do anything God can do anything if God wants the biggest sinner to feel godliness as a an inspirational thing he could do that but that's not what we're talking about from our perspective if you're not in touch with God then you don't live God's life and for a yeet means a life of terror you're not touching your soul you know you're touching your own public your puppet means your own belly button your own yes your own Giver your own taiva and unfortunately we've had this and we have to we have to we have to stop it really I'm into this portion now because I'm researching someone and and a lot of that and it's amazing how there's an expression in Hebrew Yiddish did you ever hear that expression Islam Isla means the world Gala means a Dodo a dummy right a Golem I love Gala the world is a dummy people are sold the bill of nonsense and not not a Skype because the guy has a beard or a big yabaker or payus or this or that you want to feel God mamish it doesn't come from sleeping around it just doesn't sorry and it doesn't come from taking LSD either it doesn't it doesn't work it's your it's you want to get high get high but don't tell me it's God it's you and your indulgences yes militia you're not talking about the pain are you I would say the biggest part of it but that's not what I'm talking about but it's a part of it okay well again if some if someone wants a little lechayam to Daven talk it better okay but to make an institution and say like this the only way you could stop and look how they didn't dance the Friday night to the to the to the Thriller is if you if you'll get yourself sicker and sugar before that's clipper if a person you know happens to like a drink no problem it's his own individual thing what I'm saying is the moments we're talking about The Mamas foreign and you know and and some of us grew up in that the 60s and the 70s and that period where anything sold well any Rabbi Any teacher I mean yesterday I was I was looking at some videos of Timothy Leary you know the LSD Guru of the 60s 60s it's amazing how a person who's so intelligent I think it was a Harvard Harvard Professor or you know um and and the ilk of people you know intelligent people how they how they sold their themselves and sold others to believe that you could feel God I would love to ask and see and I guess I can't and if anyone any of you know where I could I want to know what they did when they had a trip I'd like to know how many women how many women did they live with when they were having a trip how much narrow strike did they do at the time I'd love to know that is there anything I'm available I'd love to see it you know I know I don't know I mean there's plenty of there's plenty of documentary evidence of that whole era and uh and the licentiousness of it and and so on you know okay okay so I know I saw them you know they all had Yates like everyone has a yay Sahara but I saw them and I saw them learn and I saw them cry and I saw the way they were careful with their eyes you know that to me is a yeed that's trying trying to feel dimamish trying he doesn't eat much he doesn't sleep much he doesn't indulge much he gives away of himself I I saw it I saw I lift I lived it I'm not that I'm not that young you know I didn't see people 150 200 years ago but I saw such a hidden and I look at these others and it's like a joke it really is a joke it's all about self and ego this is not momish it's so far from Amish at the same time what is the alternative saying here that the nisham that Hashem gives every Eid if it cannot be experienced in my moshood intangibility you're still not in touch with your soul and that's why it's so humbling when you relearn painted base every year and Tanya you say like I told you a friend of mine has a nice expression when's the last time I've had a love affair with my nepheally kiss thank you it's like when have I had this feeling of love for necessarily kiss that I I can't move without this necessary kiss and and it's a great question and it makes us think and it makes us humble because you gotta scratch your head much to remember the last time you've had an officially kiss experience and that's without that is saying that we should know the first thing we have to know is that we have this potential because if you don't and know that you have the potential that not only do you have an ashama but that your nashama is mamish then you and the nashama are apart and you'll never be able to be a Godly person a holy person a Jewish person how that will develop and how that takes place he continues later but right from the outset of painting Bays I think it's important to kind of stop and underline that this these words with nephe Hashem Israel he looked which of these words here is the khidush of the outer Reba in his Tanya in his Chabad hasidis it's the word mamash so first that's that's an important I want you to think about as as we continue yes Maisha forgive me I'm sorry [Music] this kiddish admonishes I mean again now going back to what you said before if I would have heard foreign father [Music] so I'm thinking about that yeah so I'm asking myself still again what is the mamish no problem no problem when you put filing on in the morning do you feel Hashem in your tune putting on your arm yes or no mamash means that the the physical tangible act of putting on filling on my arm you feel like God is on your own and that's the that's the that's without saying that that's the that's what we need to get to otherwise it remains a spiritual idea so you could learn pay the climate base and you can and do everything else but if it's you in your gosh means don't feel God you only understand it intellectually and even if you have it in the heart but you don't feel it in your arms and in your feet and in your drawing and in your medicine and everything else we're doing then we haven't yet experienced means in the mama shoot in the goshness and that's by the way you came in a late Meister but I don't know if you heard but the helical is a possum Eve in job scripturally wise their concept the the all of all of of is full of these Concepts no no no no Maisha you need to hear the beginning of this year okay okay I I can't repeat it now you got to listen to the beginning of this year is the hiddish of the altareba the way phrases it here even if you find the word bombish into a certain Kabbalah safer that you could see a safer she wouldn't be safe in in see this move address I believe believe he brings over the source I forget now the name of the safer he does bring a swords but the phraseology here is unique let's continue commercial customs yes you know the universe yes and that three uh three Elemental level uh letters for the the um and the shin and the Alice uh are called the mother letters that can give birth to all the other letters and it says further there that the men each one rules like one dimension and the Alice sort of uh balances okay [Music] the world that existed before our world and that the uh that shattered into Shira said Caleb and that uh when uh when Hashem recreated the order of creation and the the order of the zeros that we have now the letters uh mentioned and Olive became the foundation for the the the Youth of the A and the bus but which orders our world so it's like a an underlying template so one of the things I hear in the word mamish in some element that sort of pre-exists the the is a order and structure of our creation and maybe of our being okay but but what I was explaining was just the opposite that mamish means that Mama shoot not not the the origin I mean you could say that it's uh uh uh the very sort of deepest tangible levels of creation um okay the deepest places that that the human psych connect yeah I I wanted to uh I wanted to speak a little personally when you were talking about LSD before you know I think um you know I I have had some experiences with psychedelic drugs and some of which I highly value in my life and some of which I'm I'm I'm uh I think I look at very destructive the one thing I value is that that there is a sense in the Psychedelic experiences that you're sort of transported out of the narrow world of our existence and the narrow categories of our mind and you're able to see sort of uh patterns of connection and unity that are that are beyond our normal what we can normally grasp and so they kind of changed the the sense of what mama is available at I think the problem s and the way I look at it as an addiction counselor is that you think that the momentous of it is in the drug rather than that that is that it's sort of you have had an opportunity a Transcendent moment to uh to see the underlying momentous of existed okay uh at another Point either public or private I would love to continue dialogue with you on this because and I I I I it's very important for me to to hear since you shared with us that you personally had that that experience so um you know it's just hard for me you know and again I'm coming from my background Yeshiva you know uh sheltered the background of course um to to truly uh see that someone can can can can genuinely be more Godly by taking um a drug and for that matter alcohol you know um it it feels to me and and believe me you know in Yeshiva we had I had plenty of time to to drink alcohol to say look I am you know so I didn't have my LSD but I had my luchaim and and at the end of the day it's it's like it's not it's not who I am it's it's in in um on the outside uh Force kind of creating a situation and uh together with that we know Hazel said when you consume wine secret comes out and the implication is that the wine is a trigger to bring out the true sight of person the true secret of man however that gazal does not say is who you are on the contrary it says something from the outside is coming in to you so if that's the same scenario in in psychedelic drugs and things like that um then there is a parallel but even if there is a [Music] position okay okay okay okay okay I think that when people get trapped in drugs that they they sort of a spot uh ascribe the power the mamashes to the drug as opposed to right it's how it sort of uh had a fault for you to see things differently right right okay okay there is I have to find it but I I came across a letter from the red but in the last several years on one of the WhatsApp groups or something like that that ever wrote about this in English about this idea can we take you know these drug producing experience to have experiences uh would be something worthwhile to maybe read together at some point so when I get it maybe I'll share it with everyone yeah you know I certainly I am effective on it yes yes you know I also wanted to sort of honor and acknowledge the Nuance of what what you know what that what that I did with uh right I I I I I hear you moisha it's just just chime and just say that is fascinating because you know I know that for for us for Purim I've had some extremely meaningful moments on Purim deep into the night I'm talking about like at the Purim student and then into it I don't we know unfortunately this in many cases where you know people don't know how to hold their alcohol and it's not just they don't know how to hold their alcohol but they're all scarf it's like so you know completely the opposite of what's supposed to be but at the same time I myself have experienced many many points of very very meaningful like basically getting the point of for bringing and really really getting pretty deep in places that uh during the rest of the year I'm not able to access and and as I said earlier if it leads to that and it's kosher and holy then you know that it's the right page but if it leads to you know what Halo mentioned before and things like that then and it's true with with puramina if someone you know gets intoxicated and becomes vulgar and disgusting and and and hits people it's wrong I'm sorry it's not it's not Purim it's Clipper okay it's nonsense so so um it's a very fine line you know and that's why I I I I I I I uh I I said from the beginning I'd love to kind of know because I wish I was listening to Leary and others I would love to know what did they do you know they thought they took a cube of LSD okay what happened I said some people were looking at their fingernails for seven hours what else happened you know I wouldn't know what happened you know when I saw the swinging of men and women you know that you know at uh what's it called Woodstock and and things like that you know it just seems to me it's leaning and and you know on clothing Etc it just seems to be leading 32 to a place where it's uh not God and not Tighter and not healthy you know what I'm saying um if but but if it's not that way and someone can truly can truly tell me in words in the right that and another thing and that it lasts I don't even Laugh In other words will you coming out of the trip will you be a better person a better yeed with more love and more obviously and and someone could say you know I don't recognize him what happened oh he had a trip yesterday and all of a sudden he's a new person like it says in capola by the way with the spiritual impregnation Eber out that ever brings it later in chapter 14 and Tanya right so what's Igbo a spiritual impregnation Hashem says Issa you did something very special for me I'm going to give you a present I'm going to impregnate you with the show soul of the balshev for how long three hours [Laughter] three hours and in those three hours you say this is not the issue that I know this is someone he's like a belshantive three hours go by the baby is out you know you know you're no longer pregnant that's it you know but during those three hours what what what we see in you and what did you see yourself something very different so if that's an experience that a person had when he went on an LSD trip Etc psychedelic drug script and all that okay we we could we could talk about it again I'm not I'm not making other decisions I'm just saying we could we could talk about you know the validity of such a thing but but again we're totally off topic over here but you know uh one second eat what I'm not saying you remember talking about Woodstock right yes I I don't believe I never heard that before really your father was there and he told you that okay it was there and he said he didn't miss he didn't miss a trailer that's right okay that that's a good design that's a as long as long as they weren't uh inappropriate exposure of of of of people when they made the minion hopefully they they went to a side but anyway that we're learning here in Tanya because it's a tarnish here so in in a way in a way and I I understand what a person like Salma Schechter and Company they wanted to see if they can experience in in this experience I understand what they wanted to do you know the question is whether is that the only way you can experience the mamish and another question even if I experience it under the influence of psychological drugs or vodka or any other you know addiction it's not who you are because when you go back to the basement you go back to your business and you and you know it's again you're confronted with a taiva with the Indulgence with an Assyrian what happened what happened to the experience what happened to the experience so mamish means this answer is Maisha this is what you were asking momish means if in your day-to-day routine you feel godliness you feel the Shama to I've said it hundreds of times to feel the soul then the shama in base Madras in basaknesses Purim it's not a it's not a big deal whatever it is but it's it's workable it's possible it's feasible but when you're when you're on the road and you're dealing with all kinds of challenges and all kinds of times and to feel Hashem there that's the and the story that my friend my good friend told me we called me one Wednesday to thank me for learning with them Tanya so I said them why are you calling me tomorrow I'm supposed to see you to learn once a week we learned in Midtown Manhattan he says I'll tell you why because I came out of business meeting and he was in the insurance business and I had an ethical question and I didn't know what to do and it hit me what would the pain in me say because we were learning about debating and he says that sensitivity came because we're learning Tanya about the pain in these I want to thank you that's an example an example of mamish he's in business it's in Midtown Manhattan it's 12 in the afternoon it's hustle bustle New York City right even though he's in a high high Riser and all that but the mind says I don't decide this question based on what I want it's what does God want what does how is the pain in me what is the answer teaches that a person an average person should behave how should it be that's how I make the decision that's the moment I'm talking about and for that it's like that ever writes in egress kadish that episode today we're after the period that we need alcohol we'll see them see them Hilo mentioned see them they used alcohol vodka as a means to avoid the sashem and you want to say goes back to the base I make this wine whatever right the devil writes there and the Bible should see them took a lot of mashins Russia it's cold and they were they were able to hold the drink it was Coca-Cola for them nevertheless after drinking a lot of Coca-Cola they get a stomach ache with and with my skin you get intoxicated you get chicken so the devil writes today he says after we had the previous web share with us Sid this and bring cities to America and open up Yiddish kite for for the world in the 40s and all of that it's like we're after he says and you don't need it anymore and you know when we when when Sid them heard this they were like in a way outraged like how can you take away from us a messiah for 150 years sit down and go out and do what they need to do comes along and says no no that's period is finished now you have to be intoxicated from from the title succeeders that my father-in-law taught the world is shared with the world and said this becomes The Replacements of Hopkins I I think I told I told you this is a good story that's a beautiful teaching a better teaching but I want to share one more story that's even I think a better teaching 1963-62. 1962 a certain laborator don't want to say the name very prominent big Tom McCallum got married to another to a pro in a prominent family in Crown Heights at the this his his future father-in-law was the son-in-law by accident not going to say more than that you can figure it out so of and these Alibaba to 770 and they're saying well it's enough roof and they're they're happy for their friends going under the khupan and they took a lot of lakaya and the some of them were hutzpadik to the Hasidic rebbe you know like uh you know could be pretty uh I don't have to tell you someone let the rabbit know our rabbit and he lambasted forgiveness but more importantly that was the time when when he came out and he said no more than four lechange at fabrangers four little kalishkes four little cups not four cups like this eight ounce little higher yeah it's a massage we're not going to strip you from saying should be playing The Killers just played a little okay and like this was an edict and that bespoke very strongly about it then you know bahram that ever says wow we can't drink anymore what's gonna be what it ever said as I use this okay this is in New York Sunday in yerushalayim of Joel Khan's father his name was Robert full Khan called foyer Khan Folia is refile he learned in the Bible she was born in 1895 he was a husted with a pedigree you know with their obey him this is Schmitz they say you know the the Pinnacle of kabbad and that's what he grew up with you know saying is part of learning cities and being missing the Snapfish everything else so there was a yid he passed away last year I knew him Shalom laid eisenbach right and they say throw a rock up in yerushalayim Atlanta's not on a cat but it lands in an eisenbach there's thousands of icebox in Jerusalem there's an old traditional family of yerushalayim and it came from Europe but you know anyway so he told me this he himself told me a story with him he already at that time became you know uh not he was a barbershop but he you know he took off either xiaomi Lafourche and he put a instead of the up path he put the hat hat down the bent down hat he became like the rabbit the the you know the rebel wears a hat down the pre-decredible wore a hat up the devil was wears a hat down he you know so he was a Hazel hussard as we say of the river so he meets Folia Khan there better fall he meets him and you're lying there somewhere and he says Folia you heard the rabbit is how can what do you think about it in other words he was like being choked he's like a a hot liberature saying Heim is part of his his lifestyle and here it is dry turkey so Folia Khan says to him say chemistry you know what that means in English it can't be you got it wrong you never heard that from the rabbit cannot be how can Villa Baba should have been New York in 1962 changed something of the Bible just see them for 150 years it doesn't it don't work we have a traditional Mercedes so he says that before they pull you I'm telling you that's what the rabbit said and all the heavens storming and tumbling and it's it's the big news laid a little bit of fall found out from his Sandra bio that the devil did say it I was enamored with the story when he told me this Sid was like but I wanted to go to the I wanted to go to the source so let me fall passed away over the years Kingston Avenue this is already when he was getting older didn't have as much patience and he knew with me you know like I enjoyed going into details and really getting to the Core so I stopped him on the street and I mentioned this story to him briefly not the way I'm telling it to you and he got a little agitated on what a little agitated and and and he said to me like did I put this Gazette and he said um he kind of acknowledged that it's true and that his father he didn't say it you know he didn't elaborate but yes his father initially had a hard time swallowing it but that's the way it is but he you know I I kind of he was walking with a buck or two and I put him on the spot I didn't mean to put him on the spot but you know that was the only scenario like I happened to beat him in the street so I know the story is true I know the story is true so what I'm saying is the one that put him how can I say put an end unfortunately didn't put it in because people don't listen you know what I'm saying but he attempted he attempted and he put the perspective and you should know today in the yeshivas Maisha has you know boys Yeshiva others Yeshiva even when the Hebrew I see a lot of Hebrew are careful I sat with 770 bokram I think I put it on YouTube for two hours or so three hours before bringing I couldn't get the silicon and I was talking about just before I said before playing so we could sing get into it and it was it was it was uh I I couldn't believe it these are 22 year old guys 770 in my time in my time we would be saying look I am and then really and I had to I have to kind of you know not force them but encourage them over and over so what I see is I hope that it's because they're careful to keep the Rebus evict not because they're just lazy or not into it because you know the difference between indifference and and difference in apathy versus you know uh it's not healthy for me or umbrella from and I don't want to do it or I'm keeping the rebels Xerox called by the way in Chabad it's called the xada you hear the word gazer and Chabad which means decree it's not referring to when evil decree from God God forbid to destroy a city or something it's referring to not drinking more to former Hayes guys you gotta for playing you this morning we start with Tanya we end up with this great for bringing tomorrow we'll learn more zygous and everyone great day shalom yeah we are playing without vodka well said take care Shalom bye