Satmar and Lubavitch - Rabbi Mentlick - Bedford & Dean 1950s

Sholem Aleichem good matter Shabbos and the work depending on when and where you are it's Dalit Thomas the outside of my own Seder they eat the groaner that mental food to fuss but friend money Itzhak Rosen and other very fine people today after Gimbel Thomas so I'll share a story today between the barrage of the software of the Bureau title down this happened in the very early 50s 51 52 53 there was a his name was they called the Mendel Chicago air Mendel from Chicago today he lives I believe in Monroe he's already an 80 year old man more and in Chicago there was a see the Hungarian of named the whites in the rough the whites in the roof I guess this was a town in Hungary or somewhere over there and he could have been also a relative of the Satmar dog I'm not sure but he was in the full regalia the Hasidic garb stri mo the Beca share the pious payers who won't pay us and he was over there he had an influence on many people and of course he you know understanding that these were Americans are the children of Europeans already were Americanized and they needed a certain education but they either shift from education which they didn't have at the time in Chicago on that level so he contacted the bureau titled mouth who already started a yeshiva in the 40 or so in Williamsburg to South Beach Eva and he asked if he could enroll him in the yeshiva and and after he described the buffer and his family to reveal Teitelbaum to the south whatever he said this he Siva Maya she was not for him Maya Shiva we have benches with splinters the food sometimes as a few days old sometimes there's no heat you know we are a fledgling yeshiva and we're you know doing it in the way of Europe and for an American boy Maya she was not gonna work even though he's been with you and come to your shul have been influenced by you but still he's not made of that material you know you have to be made of a certain material to appreciate a certain culture and supplement ever says to him surprised that he was surprised there's a yeshiva called temperately member bhavish it's here in a neighborhood of 200 from where we are Williams because coke Crown Heights I suggest you send Mendel Chicago where to that issue that's a good place where why because it's it's the Babbage it's Kassadin and they work with and look like more Americanized students and therefore he will fit in there very nicely the fights enough tells mango Chicago air I suggest you go to the lab Avicii Shiva this is okay if the rough says I listen that's the way used to be a rough says you don't argue you don't debate my question but at the end of the day if the rug makes a strong recommendation you you think seriously about it that usually you you would do it so he goes to New York he's greeted the achieve it might have it meant leaked momenta leak was a very warm person not only when he became passionate and and and turned twice as red as he was he had I believe in his younger years a red beard his face was always like bright and shiny and red reddish and he's greeted India Shiva and he's learning and he's and he's happy but they also put him into the dormitory dormitory you know was I'm in better and better at Avenue and Dean Street Co better than the India Shiva which I was I first thought to learn for three years as a young boy and on the fourth floor of the building there was the dormitory and they put him in a room with other students other bucket him high school at each this we're talking about high school age now and he noticed they were reading some magazines that weren't you know filth magazines but they weren't Jewish magazines you know they were nope there were no Jewish babies a refugee wish mechanism let's say Sports Illustrated you know I'll give you an example and he asked them what are you reading and he was taught now by the veidt's the dog not to listen to the radio not to read go you should magazines you know and and that attitude and they told them you know that they're just relaxing and chilling out and they didn't use the word chilling in those days anyway and he sees how you know that doing that then he talks to them and he notices that some of them are going to the candy store and buy in Kalevala milk that was not supervised by a Jew call of stop and he says you learned here in the Babaji is even though Babbage is so adamant it's so particular about drinking and using only call of your slow products how is it that you and the achieve are doing this and of course they heard them left in a more whatever and and and they went on now you have to understand in those days Labov achieve even better in a Dean I don't know if a majority but a very good portion we're not the babitch of boys okay they attract the boys from from the community Brownsville East New York Crown Heights Williamsburg and many of them were not the Babbitt Labov at your homes and there were those that were more from and those that were less true and Halloween swirl in those days was difficult to get and many people who were fully from at home didn't use colonies low so the boys their sons going into the candy store buying a milkshake that wasn't called a bistro wasn't terrible but he coming from the veidt's the roof this was the worst thing for him could you imagine him come from Chicago is more from than the boys from from Brooklyn and its really bothered so he went through me mentally and he told very mentally and because he was trained by the Vice the roof he used to walk every Friday night from Crown Heights to Williamsburg to be at the dish of the sattva roof this is the feeling that he had so he didn't sit himself for the private sure he didn't even know much about the Babbage and there ever is it early 50s and he told one Friday night he told us at my table about what's going on and that he really doesn't like this so the Satmar of told him that he wants to speak to our men click so mentally said let me explain to you what's going on and I meant look said basically we are like a hospital we take everyone in and we have and we and we cure them and we work with them and our job is to heal a person and sometimes a person comes in there very ill and we still take them in he says you know the sake of Shiva and such institutions have a certain rigid program they're made for a particular student a particular style but the Labov achiever takes everyone in because that's the ethos that's the philosophy of the Babich of Chabad novices role and we do whatever we can to improve the student to make them come to understand that there's a better way and holier way but it takes time and we don't always succeed but that's what we the next Friday night goes back he walks back from Crown Heights to Williamsburg to be at the South where there was dish and he sees ebony and the suburbs as knee lucida shame what knew what happened and he tells him what I just told you what a mental said and the Satmar robe said okay he didn't you know he just let it be it comes now each rat time I think was tough seeing you'd give up your days of youth Kimball 1952 or 53 51 or 52 actually whatever and Trevor mental excels the to the boys that there's gonna be a bus and then I take the children there the students to the oil to Devon for the arts and the feeder Caleb and you trot and Mendel Chicago says I need to talk to my roof if I should do this Tammy gets a hold of the device and I drove I believe and the Bible says that it's not the custom of the sat mill and though there was a follow that schita to go tips a caver on the yard site I forget now the exact details and our men click was pretty adamant that everyone go so the Friday night before no sorry he apparently went he went because that was the next Friday after you trapped he went again to the sack but off to the Tish and this time he told him what happened with the going to the oil how he felt he was forced to go so the Satmar drove wrote a letter I think to the river and this is reprinted the felucca days of going to ok they're not going to a caver of it sadiq there's a hole that is based on earlier writings and at that point the South would have said enough is enough and he took Mendel vite Mendel got Mendel Chicago where he took him out of the lab babaji shiri suggested to parents to take him out and to transfer the soxhlet and he became dr. Sattler dog he really was at south but at that time in the lavash dressed up as an American boy and I remind myself of this story now because it's you trapped I'm sorry it's given it was given Thomas yesterday we're still in the three days of giving Thomas let us remember that the system that there are Bayon and our ever put forth is Alabama new system and it's open to everyone it really is but at the same time there are certain guidelines and certain practices that Labov each and the Babbage that I see them of generations did and do and just yesterday I had a discussion when I gathered my family for if I bring it as it says in the letter for you trot but the same we do for gimel Thomas and one of my daughter's this asked you know said she went to if I bring in with some friends the night before and they were discussing what what's the difference between a closet and just someone who is part of the neshamah closes the general in the Sherman that exotic Arab I make sure I banal is as the Altair episodes in chapter 2 of Tanya so what's the difference between the two without going into an explanation now it's an important question and everyone that's very worthwhile to dialogue over this weekend the bottom line is that Alabama sure has a beard and not just a beard but a full beard Alabama Jocasta takes a short haircut which I haven't done yet was doing shrimp today Alabama sure does not grow as pay us yes pants over here there's that this is to the Babich of our lab as we know it for the last 50 60 years and and and of course the foundation is learning the Devastator of singing that up is the good name doing them if saw him learn if he does Iran bombing that's a given that's the bread that's the that's the bread of butter you know but the ethos the ideology is an ideology that requires the practical commitment to them in hug him and the lifestyle level the Babich are you not on the babbit sure if you don't do that you are alabama qi r u-- alabama d that can that can and should improve absolutely so going to the oil for you trap was a prerequisite in those days and that's where elemental ik forced it on the buffer and mental mental chicago were didn't want to do it and the Satmar of came and long he said you're not allowed to go and I'm sure he what you know and also the fact that they pushed him to go to the campus gay but I'm sure the shot but I wasn't so happy about that although he had a relationship with this Frieda could have been and great respect but nevertheless the boy doesn't want to go the students want to go why are you forcing him although you know Sarika see them in Sackville of over the years forced people to do many things which is a whole discussion and you can read about it at my books at vanilla Babbage but nevertheless we have a culture and we have a history and we have a lifestyle and we have a river and we look to our ever for what Labov it is today so therefore as we conclude the gimel Thomas period and there's really no conclusion just like Pesach is nimza continues all year that's why LaBarbara custom is not to say how South said to pay something it's the end of the pace of Seder there's no end like we used to here in camp down you slow learning never ends we used to have a learning session and then the widow it's time to stop and go to activities the announcement on the mic and the system and the PA system was learning never ends learning never ends the Babbage never ends that ever never ends it's just a beginning when you realize it's just a beginning and it's fresh and it's new and it's alive it's beautiful is it for everyone loved Africa not necessarily come from the lebarge perspective it's for everyone but from from people's perspective and institutions is better the movements of the perspective they might not want to identify completely and that's right today there are thousands and thousands of people coming to the 11 then alibi but you'll see them makes no difference they burst out this isn't a competition game here you know how many people do I get to go to the oil how many people are putting on filler how many people both oh that ever did speak some you know sometimes like that you know told us look same in the Miami is Shiva use the most 1975 who never spoke about gathering children so they wrote in that they gathered 5,000 children I've never said that's it mark like gather 24,000 so from the kedusha perspective at the right time numbers do make a difference and numbers are important but from our perspective it's connecting with the idea with the I use the word ethos the philosophy and when you do that you see that there ever is very much alive very much active and we've see them Kalevala value only we were to be as active at as alive and by connecting to the rabbinate subject you see de Reynaud the neshamah close dimension of a no-fail eBay's and Tania for coleus oil even as the Altair ever says that for some of those are made of those rebels he still gets a unique ax nourishment the nurture from the munch in abeyance of eternity from the mention of any of the generation maybe so the cut of mom-ish spilly speedily in our days the opinion based on make this volcano but a shame though but main the young men