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Sanctifying your relationships - Exchanging one pleasure for another - Rabbi Chaim Dalfin
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so we're learning Tanya we're middle of
page
126 chapter 44 in Tanya is the third uh
lesson on this chapter with God's help
we'll finish tomorrow the balatan here
discussed yesterday a very interesting
type of uh a love for God one that's
called quoting the Z like a son who who
does whatever needs to be done including
self-sacrifice for his
parent and we and the Alba kind of gave
us a buzzword to to refer to
this love as the love of ainu there is
the love ofu of life and there's love
for our father and the difference
ISU as much of a value that it is that
we come to realize that God is the force
of our life and all there is in the
world is is God Almighty cuz whatever
happens it's from God whether it's good
or perceive no good whatever the case
it's from
God
nevertheless one
exchanges like some have said about
another concept one TAA for another
TAA first I had a desire a lust for uh
women I had a lust for money I had a
Lust For pleasures
and I came to a conclusion I'm wasting
my time because it's here today and gone
tomorrow so so
now what am I going to do I'm going to
exchange that lust that that desire that
TVA for a higher more sophisticated or
refined T called
God what's my perception of God is that
he gives me life that means I'm
important and I exist and I count and
I'm a and I'm a something so the the
love
of which we called
earlier my my soul thirst lusts for you
at night in the classical um language of
King Solomon of a love story right I
want you a
night why do I want you at night I don't
want you at day why do you emphasize I
want you at all times because night
represents darkness and problems and
misery solve my misery at night wow
you're going to solve my misery now that
type of a love both in the physical and
in the spiritual Shore which was talking
about here we're not talking about the
physical that type of a love it's a it's
it's a very powerful one but yet it's
exchanging one desire for another desire
you never leave the world of
desire and you think about
think about it in other words it's like
someone saying why should I become a b
why should I you know why should I stop
eating eating pork and then and then non
kosher and put on Fillin and everything
else you know why cuz it's a better life
the world world of Torah the world of
religion the world of spirituality
you'll he you'll stay out of trouble you
won't get
illnesses and you'll be more of a
refined person so it's it's a it's a no
a
no-brainer that type of
analysis is very much part of life but
it's it's it's it's limited it's limited
to the ey to the yesh to in other words
it's pleasuring myself not with the
physical uh physical material it's
pleasuring myself with the spiritual but
I'm still pleasuring
myself the love of
that a child has for a parent where he's
willing to do anything or everything or
or or a girl for a parent a child for a
parent it goes beyond existence even if
I die I do it for my
parent you know I grew up with a with a
mother was a holocaust Survivor okay
Grandparents were a holocaust F
family and my mother I heard it from her
so many times when we became when we got
sick a
she would say I wish I would have it and
you wouldn't have it of course of course
and and and and and and that was common
you know Common and I mean like look how
it sticks in my head now in my 60s and
it's it's like like like I hear it today
from my mother she's passed on already
16 to 18 years I forget
now
right in other
words yeah in other words the the self
sacrificed that that and that was a
parent to a child my mother to to us now
imagine the the the right Torah attitude
a child to a parent which Unfortunately
today were missing because kids have
only complaints against their
parents they'll sit around and bad mouth
their mother and their father and mean
they came from from from their Union you
wouldn't be here you you you low life
you're only here because of them so
where's your respect but it's a lost art
it's a lost art I'm talking about myself
too my my my respect for parents
compared to my mother's is nothing it's
a Shand a
shame why cuz I'm a American spoiled
brat okay and she came out of the the
shettle out of the Cradle out of the
Holocaust my mother when my grandmother
was already in her 80s and had demension
and you know was going downhill so she
slept right here where I'm teaching you
right over here I see the couch except
we have a new couch but the position of
the couch with the couch was there she
would sleep sometimes sometimes on the
couch my mother would lay down on the
floor so in case my grandmother falls
down she should fall on top of
her and that's what she slept for the
night on the floor so that her mother in
case she rolls off the couch and should
fall on top of her
no
did I ever do that I should never have
to do it you know my father should be
well but you understand the idea so
let's go back to what he's saying ananya
the love of of of a child's
self-sacrifice is dismissing and leaving
the yesh the eye it's not the exchange
of one pleasure for another pleasure a
physical material pleasure for a for a
spiritual pleasure it's to vacate
pleasure if there's anything of a imp
pleasure that's associated with the I IE
the ism the ism get away from it you
don't want it that's really bad why is
it bad it's spiritual pleasure but
spiritual pleasure is still pleasure
that you pleasure yourself and a Jew has
to come to a point one second that the
pleasure they have for a piece of meat
on chabas or a union that's a holy Union
Etc should not be to pleasure himself
but to pleasure to have God be expressed
through that pleasure and there
shouldn't be an iota of your pleasure in
it it should be God's pleasure that's
pleasuring you now you'll say well who
how's that how's that possible today
okay hold on hold on hold on don't throw
stones at me
yet I got it mute yourself please how is
that possible you have to review the the
last 43 chapters in
Tanya it is possible it's not possible
in the microcosm it's possible in the uh
in the macro in the
macrocosm it's possible it's possible in
every little area in your life in I'm
sorry in one area in your life to
develop such a feeling if you work at it
if you don't work at it you're right
it's
possible it is possible it is
possible the question is whether we
really want it we all know when we
really want something nothing can stop
us nothing so the question is if you
have the will if there's a will there's
a way Yi if you have the rut on and most
of us don't have the rut on at all times
and if we have the ruton once in a while
at a certain spiritual Godly path Torah
path we're we're way
ahead so this this one
second let me let me speak and
later this is this is the the the love
that the AL calls
here right not
that is God is our life that's the lower
level that's the
the level the one we're talking about
the higher one is
the which is self-sacrifice now on page
126 is going to further elucidate this
idea and then teach us more about it I
want to learn Insight look look at page
uh we
are
um we're at the fourth line after the
period the middle of the line okay
says that we have to accustom ourselves
for it to be on our mouth and through
our
voice and he says when we train
ourselves in this
way second nature
becomes habit or you know becomes our or
habit becomes our
nature although it seems to the person
it's a where where where we holding
we're holding the right now we're on the
fifth line on page 126 from the top 1
two 3 four five I have I have I the
bottom totally
wrong the bottom is the end of is the
end of it's the end of the chapter what
what you you mean four or five lines
before the end of the four or five lines
before the end of the chapter no no no
way no
way okay please go back to 126 fifth The
Fifth
Line and even though it appears
to it's a
fantasy that's what y asked who's
holding by it it's a fantasy says the
balat the language that he used in
chapter 31 as
well
means don't be
concerned Why
not since from your perspective is it's
true what you're doing you really mean
it if on its own it's
true it touches it comes from the hidden
love in the
heart therefore it's
fine however
for it to come out to fruition in a
manifested
state should be practical which should
lead
to that you should stud with this
feeling so that will help you serve God
like a child who serves his father to
make to give him pleasure
satisfaction that he does
that therefore
the
says say when one has a thought a good
thought Hashem combines the thought with
the action the pro the issue is like
this in the gar it says if someone had a
thought to putting on but guess what he
didn't get around to put on so if you
learn the say the thought itself somehow
is as though you put on fill so the
question is what do you mean he didn't
put on fill
I can have all the good thoughts in my
in in in the world I didn't do it so the
AL chapter 16 of T already explained and
it's also based on that it means that he
he did do
it he did do it but it was lacking
kavana so what hasem will do is if you
have the good thought of kavana He he'll
make the M the action be as though there
was kavana with it but not that you
didn't do it at
all yeah so that's what he
says and therefore the this Mitzvah that
seems to you to be stale boring
empty
unenthused will and therefore should not
sore and high and should remain just
below and not go anywhere and you feel
like I didn't D today I didn't learn
today but you learn I don't know what I
was talking about even I know the my
heart on day I was thinking about the
bank I was thinking about sports and I
was thinking about the stock market I
was all over the place am I picking up
my kids and everything
else you sat and
learned is going to combine
the and to your actions just do
it the best thing is to do with you
should have but if you missed right
that's what we're saying so he
say
this pleasure that God has from your
action it's comparable and we learned
this earlier in Tanya as
well the joy that a king has of his
son who comes to him after leaving
jail what a what what
AAS my son was stuck in jail my son is
stuck in Gaza and he comes home
even if he doesn't say anything and he
doesn't share much you are so happy he's
here he's left
jail even if he's going back to jail but
right now he's there right don't think
about the future live with the present
says the present is that when you put on
them you do a
Mitzvah that Mitzvah is
wholesome that Mitzvah is galic what's
going to be tomorrow am I going to
repeat the mitzvah am I going to be
inspired I don't
know but it shouldn't matter to you this
is the answer why why kab emphasizes put
on fil even just one time but why he's
living with a shix he's eating TR he's
not putting on film tomorrow you slap
him into a msmobile on 47th Street of
5th Avenue Manhattan or at the kis
wherever else and you put filling on
with him one time here's the
answer because you cause
the is it about you I or is it about God
if it's about God God says this turns me
on I get pleasure from one time fing
don't tell me about the future that's
another Association that's another
mindset it's another
conversation and it's an important one
right but right now so that's what Al
says this is comparable to a son of a
king who's been L out of jail and the
father has parents of such when the the
child returns and comes home from jail
another Parable another
mus or when you make a a dwelling place
for God
imagine you hasem comes into your house
today you're related you're related how
long how long is it going to be there
someone says to your neighbor how long's
God going to be by you your guest I
don't
know it shouldn't it shouldn't it
shouldn't concern you how L he's here
now live with the present God is here
now and if we put the focus on the now
the we're making
for says this is genuine Ava the fact
that this Ava might not last and the
fact that there might be obstructions to
the Ava later on who cares now right now
you're you're being emis you're honest
you mean it you really really mean it
you're in you're in what'll be tomorrow
what'll be tomorrow we'll deal with
tomorrow let's
continue the previous mentioned love
called the love of the Soul thirst for
God
it's very close to a person like to to
to bring it out to to reveal it from the
concealed to to
revealed by constantly training the
mouth and the heart to have this
feeling I just want to point out you
some of you have studied and are
involved with
breast in
breas you know this idea of talking to
Hashem is very much a staple you know
the whole idea of
is in we don't find that emphasis we
find the emphasis on his meditational
reflection in t in certain places and
this being one of them right here this
page 126 without says he he he calls
upon the concept of training your mouth
and your voice to to to
um to speak about hem through and Torah
Etc and you see even here um as he
finishes this this section of this
chapter he refers back
again so I just want to point out for
the record because you know sometimes
you'll hear some Way's not into you know
saying loud the words and and singing
loud out and you know it's all about
meditation and the head and and I'm not
into that I like to articulate you know
and to you know whether it's like in
carene Stalin we scream very loud other
other groups shake a shake a lot you
know the different variations right but
it's interesting that when you learn
Tanya this is not the only place you'll
see slight um well not slight it's open
it's it's it's it's written clearly here
but the the dush the emphasis is more on
the hison than
the I that's true but to say that the
balat didn't understand the value of
that too he did and therefore at certain
times like over here when he's talking
about this these different levels of
love and for God he calls upon us to do
that to help us feel more the love so
it's it's a very interesting uh
approach that although normally the
approach throughout Tanya is bonus
meditation reflection right here he's
calling upon us to be
Mar to accustom to train your mouth that
means to talk it out to sing it out to
say it out what do we
say we
say Co sound of daving is learning is
especially happing arouses kavana Focus
right so so what does that mean that
means you should be singing the whole
time some say
yes the previous Reb in the talk in 1945
I think he says there he's talking toab
who are daving with great and for hours
you know like what they call
inab right and they and they and they D
with a song they start singing SOB gives
gives them a and he says what are you a
Mal you know what song at what to sing
at what time who are you to your little
man you know what now he's not obviously
he was talking to there and he knew who
he's talking to and he felt that they
were not at that level but and and he's
not talking about you know us who if if
Hali we should D with a
song Hali you know what I'm saying he
was talking there big
who thought they were big shots you know
they they know what song to sing or what
part of daving to to awaken this Angel
and that angel on this level and that
level so the says you've become a
Mal he gives him he wipes him out all of
a sudden you become theim
are that's not what the AL is talking
about here and I've
seen that they did that with a niggan
and if you hear their niggan some of
it's online like there was a of
friends they called him he was born
1883 he never came to to the re New York
he passed away 1983 he lived 100 years
old and they and he was an accountant in
the for the Yesa in Bruna in France and
he was you know from a different planet
a different time they they they they
tell over the KRA who went to in the 70s
to the Yesa there that for the first
time they brought a recording of the
reban not not probably the 50s or 60s
earlier the you know the old the old the
real
toal
right and he heard the Reb's voice and
he started to walk around the real to
real he couldn't see where the voice is
coming from he didn't see
the I mean you're talking about a person
and he wasn't making it up he was living
still in in the stle
right and they have a tape they made a
tape without him knowing of him daving
saying each word and singing with a it
is so it is so therapeutic it is so holy
it is so galic and that was his regular
ding this wasn't shabas it was during
the week he just doing with a sweetness
of of of of of voice and and nigan you
know and it's not something you Channel
hey you know people
they asked me at fabrin sing sing sing
this and sing that you know what I
answer them I'm not a jukebox we put in
five cents you push a button and dolphin
sings A nigan it don't work that way I
could do it for you but not for five
cents you know what I'm saying if you
want if you want me to perform hire me
to perform no problem if you hire me to
perform I'll perform but if you want a
to sing a n if I bring it doesn't come
from sing this now sing this now doesn't
that way if you're engrossed in a and
you say and you're speaking words of the
soul and you're
aroused what the Same by right exactly
exactly that's my point there's no
like as as mosha we've discussed many
times Moshe BR you know now it's time to
cry for sh M how many times did you cry
to sh Keepers five times or three times
at what point did you cry or you didn't
cry make sure you make yourself cry
today before you go to Sho um I don't
know take a smell of something or smoke
something and start
crying like what is going on here when I
was in Marine County and you guys can
relate to this you know this was in the
mid 80s okay and everyone knows that you
know what Marin was as I've told you
know the hat hat of capital of the
United States at that time you know post
the Berkeley and and and and you know
the counterculture of the 60s and 70s
right there was a group of people in
another city who were from bichua other
and Friday night before this is the
first time I heard about it
unfortunately today it happens more
often they smoked up before shabas they
could be in high and
dance I I remember you know I was a
sincere guy from now the drink before
before now they drink before I was ay a
sincere guy from the Yesa from leab from
770 in my days there was no such a thing
on the contrary when shabas came you you
you you know you dressed put on a nice
suit nice clothing and you prepared
yourself it was a whole you know so this
is not what means here by singing you
know we're going to get ourselves stoned
now so we can sing
by my friend I don't need that type of
singing I don't want that type of
singing no you want to do that do that
don't tell me that's that's
not is you're going to the car and I've
been there with yav many times and
people I'm just saying what I see people
are happy be there they dance and they
sing if it's coming from the heart call
you know what I'm
saying we have to stop here and um we
will continue
inem tomorrow I don't know if we'll
finish it but we we can do anyone had a
question in particular or anything that
you want to ask
me okay anyway get ready youat is chabas
yes
Misha I just want to say this
issue what you brought up a few minutes
ago about training the whole idea of
training it's interesting inab I've
always found that that's like a um it's
it's it's a uh in a way like almost like
a
methodology you don't see a you don't
see of in other
places um element's element of training
I Masha turn yourself off manasha I
can't hear mha please you you're saying
in kabad you find that training is is
more um palp applicable than in other
systems um I don't know I don't I it
depends in kabad the training is in one
in in one St for
example in klen St and they're they're
into shouting I mean they train
themselves to
shout I'm serious so I again I don't
know I'm not so vers to tell you if they
have sessions where they train
themselves to scream with they but I've
I've seen them you know in their in
their High Time both inim in May sharim
and here in B Park where they will you
know go back and gasp for air and then
go boom and they give it out it seems to
me that there's a certain type of
training but uh it's different it that's
why that's what I'm saying you're right
the the training that that and is
talking about is a very different type
of training I would say it's not so much
of an emotional training it's it's an
intellectual training that leads to an
emotionalism I I I would say
what what meditation um yes but
meditation where other are not so much
into meditation they're more into other
kind of spiritual Awakenings and here
it's more of trying to train yourself
how to be centered yes how to be
centered and how to it's a different
it's totally different than all
including Caren carlen it's it's amazing
but it's not it's something else yes I I
think maybe I'm thinking specifically in
a way maybe I'm thinking specifically
about
like one is train
in a
way oh
that's okay that's something else but
that's some okay that that's that's true
but that's not I don't see how
it's what's the connection to what we're
learning here about training the the
voice and the sound after meditation
you're saying training that in other
systems they don't have that why in in
in in in Lakewood in in ponich in the L
World they they train the students to in
the gor so yes they don't TR they don't
train them to go put F on with Jews oras
it's another type of training but it's
it's a valid training from what they
believe is
theer so and kabad you know trains the
students to go out absolutely so I just
I I I I I would say that it's a
different type of training but I not to
not to you know to be little I'm not
saying you are doing that but I'm saying
it's not that that they they just don't
they don't Fe that you know we need this
should be an emphasis and therefore you
know but I think MOS I think mosha is
saying is trying to connect he'll
correct if I'm wrong there
is the of in an example
of and connecting it with there is a you
don't have that connection okay okay if
that's what mha meant I'll accept that
I'll accept that no I mean yeah yeah
yeah yeah
hello I just want to make a comment
something you were saying before yes U
about pleasure and that in this week's
para in his M
on makos yes says says that um the the
uh the whole idea of um of maros BOS was
to uh to U root the uh the
roip of of of the of the highest
Kiper of of aipa and and he further says
that that's what gives us the uh the
capacity
fores the ability to to derive
pleasure and sanctify our pleasure
that's it comes from the uh comes from
from the coak of uprooting the co the
kip uh the kipa of
ofos so so is saying that the the is
specifically associated with pleasure is
that what I'm
hearing well that the the
capacity that the
capacity that the the uh that the Jewish
people have to sanctify ourselves with
the things that are permissible come
came out of that Maka in the sense that
that Maka was was a Mak for the MIT and
a for for the for the for and that's the
sense that I understood it right right
but what what I hear that but what I'm
asking you is what's the connection
between Mak
and what's the intellectual connection
between the two the way I the way I
understand it is that um uh the
um that be outside of that before that
or if that didn't happen that we
wouldn't have the ability to bring kadua
into permissible things that bring us
pleasure I I'm asking you I'm asking you
I'm asking I understand but why why
what's the connection to marus
pus he says by um uh but in the P that
says
mes
that
oh
kades that
P yes
that's ah so he's deriving it from kades
Le that's what you're telling
me okay well and yeah that this and this
this idea that um that would not have
been a a kind of accessible aod I hear
you I hear you okay and that is in a
certain sense the
right oh let me think about it I I I
hear the point have a great day with see
everyone tomorrow Z have a good day
byebye take care thank you thank
you