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Rebbetzin Chaya Mushka changed trajectory of Chabad: Yahrtzeit 22 Shevat, 2023- R Chaim Dalfin
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so good morning today we're actually not
going to learn Tanya but we're going to
fabrein because it's a very special day
in the Chabad calendar it's the yard
site the 35th yard site of the Robinson
schneerson a daughter of the Frida
cadabra and his wife and granddaughter
shop
so I want to share with you a little bit
about her
and to begin by telling you that
she was not someone who was seen much at
all in the public
the first time that I saw this Robinson
this woman was in 1980 I remember it
like now
I was standing on Eastern Parkway uh in
either the the service lane or the
whatever they had the loch vitamin
parade and they shut down that street
for several hours and someone pointed
out to me look up there
and it was the house next door which
today is the library the library is
there
and uh well the library offices and an
extension of the library is there
because there's a library under 770 in
the basement
and uh I saw someone standing at the
window I was Far Away didn't get a clear
picture that was the only time that I
that I saw this that Rapid City Live you
know alive
in in the 50s and 60s she would come or
70s and 70s she would come to her sister
Hannah garari in who lived in the third
floor of 770 and from time to time and
she would they would see her come in and
out but also not much
one of the reasons
that she was so private
I believe a it's by Nature
didn't want to make a scene of herself
and I'm talking about cover you know it
means private you didn't see your
neighbor out of fabranging and you'd
never saw her at davening
in 770 I mean you never saw you never
saw I mean you know let's make a
comparison let's take the figure the
submar of young title Baum's wife Fagan
right
not Not only was she active she like she
when the summer never passed away they
were Satan would consider her like the
red but the extension and during his
lifetime she was very very active and
many people came to the house and to see
their their Shot Bar of and you know
they greeted her too you know I'm saying
much more involved
even in Chabad history take for example
the rebara Shop's wife whatever it's a
standard son of snares and she was very
active in in committees in in hassed
funds in in having
um uh funds for the Yeshiva Baker image
didn't have much and she provided food
and and clothing
but this Rapid City
was was really uh obtrusive not seen not
heard from
so only after her passing did things
come out like someone said shop as a
shoe
um just to accept to another laboratory
he said I didn't even know there was an
rabbits until 1988 after she passed away
and the devil started to speak about her
every single shop it's not about her but
about lessons we take from the Parsha
that that that and and her to to do more
title mitsues and never quoted the
deposit
and the living will make the heart
attentive
now this this phenomena has not yet been
studied not that I know of and I'm sure
one day there's going to be an academic
PhD a dissertation written on her and
her style and how she fits into the
annals of Chabad and convinced it has to
be
but as far as I know it's not been done
yet and it's it's definitely there's
definitely what to write about
but what type of person was she from
what we heard later
I want to begin with the with with that
ever's comment
that he made to us at that time he was
called assemblyman Dove heiken he lives
here in Borough Park Flatbush he was an
assembly of State Assembly for many many
years he's the one that you see
sometimes in the news he's very
outspoken against anti-Semitism his
mother his mother parents being I think
Holocaust Survivors
nothing being Holocaust Survivors is
very outspoken and he did a lot for our
communities for many years so Dove went
by one of the days
um during Shiva for the rembertson
everyone had a chance to go by the river
gave a dollar and and sometimes someone
would say something like you know the
Comfort there ever
so the Vikings went by and he said a few
words to The Rebel you know you know
comforting him and the rebel said to him
and and I don't remember the verbatim
quote but close to it
people underestimate people
underestimate her closeness
uh is Sir could you please take yes sir
please mute yourself
anyway yes sir
we have a medical consultation Dr Velva
would you like to give your opinion on
this too
anyway
so so you hear that listen to this
comment
the rep is said yes she was really
underestimated
and and when I heard this it really
really opened my I started to think wow
I mean that's that's like saying people
didn't appreciate my wife
so what does that mean what does that
mean they're ever didn't say more
I'm gonna I'm going to share with you
what I think okay so take it or leave it
because she was so quiet and behind the
scenes and not known
the Jewish World the Hasidic world the
litfish world the world of Orthodoxy
you know didn't consider her to be a
kind of a real Reba's wife a Remington
of a rebel
one second my [ __ ] the mothership if
you're if you're a real rabbit sin get
involved you know and if but when you're
not involved
they look down at you they look down at
her so that's what the rep is said
they did they underestimated who she was
let me finish and then I'll take your
question my ship so the question is what
did she do that was worth
notoriety was worth you know to be just
in the annals of Chabad well number one
she's the rapper's wife that's the most
important thing
at Sadiq Rebecca his wife
is special not gonna say you know I'm
not about a prophet I don't know what
level that's not my the point that's
number one number two she was a daughter
of the previous rather that had three
daughters
she was the middle daughter Hannah was
the oldest music
was this the middle and she had us they
had a sister Shayna who never was killed
in Treblinka in 1942.
married to Mendel hornstein a relative
of theirs from the marash anyway anyway
that's number two so her up being the
wife of the Bible being the daughter of
the Frida Kadabra and in her own right
in her own right
she was someone who
kept a low profile for the following and
at eenstein's al-sabi Steins I think
says this as well so you know it there's
what to think about
after 1950 right we celebrated the
previous rappers yard Center Utah a few
weeks ago after you tried there were two
son-in-laws left right the two
son-in-laws the older one was Rabbi
shimario garari married to Hannah the
daughter and the younger one was the
rebel married to the reputation now
naturally the older one should become
red and we've discussed this a lot and
there's a lot more to discuss and I
really urge you I wrote an entire book
on this called Rashad and Reba Rashad it
stands for rubbish my yogurti
uh I have it over there anyway
so so
because initially there was some
controversy
you know a year or two
she didn't want to upset her older
sister the entire time and what she did
is she kept a low profile
in other words let's take for example uh
if she would come to 770 for Rosh
Hashanah right
the women would clear the place for her
give her a place up front surrounded
with bodyguards
she hated that
she didn't want that
and she knew that her sister sitting
upstairs in the third floor of the same
building is is being eaten up inside
she's the older sister
who
consider himself
you know an important figure in in the
South shallots in the dynasty of Chabad
and she's upstairs by herself at a table
and her sisters is is given the red
carpet and this would have been every
time and everywhere you you know
how
Hasidic Judaism became
to the Chagrin of some that I'm not
taking a position
that it became kind of you know uh a
pictorial for New York Times magazine so
that when a rabbit goes you have to have
bodyguards and fancy
um cars and and an Entourage
well do you know that whenever a shop
would go in the morning to the mixer
he
he told the Bianco Lando of nabrath the
former Wrath of neighborlando Orlando's
Heckscher
he told them I don't want you coming
because he was like uh he was a Rover
and and he for a while he was like a
shamish to the river
so he said you stay here in shul I can
go myself
and I heard the spider I'm telling you
now from Rabbi Gaffney of twas formerly
of the neighbor Brock who had the
yeshiven
quacks so zangazunt is an older man
already he told me this because he spoke
to Rabbi Lando rebelanda told him
that deliver us that he had to do all
kinds of tricks to be able to go along
behind the rabbit to walk with the rabbi
as he walks to the Midfield
and he would make us appeared
or walk back from the McPherson he would
make his beard wet implying you know
that he's also was in the micro so that
he's walking back from the Midfield he's
not there because he's just accompanying
the river I mean such tricks you know
so what do we see that in Lubavitch for
sure this whole idea of entourages and
pictures and and and and bodyguards was
disgusting and I'm using that word
disgusting
the Reba our rabba
several times
this is after the swirl returned
you remember the the on hey tables there
was the there was the announcement that
the library that was taken belongs to
Chabad just sift and rule that way right
but then it took a while for them to get
back to 770. well this is online by the
way you'll see so the truck comes and it
drops off on a big shutdown of a growner
everyone's bringing out boxes into the
library then
at some point that ever was going to go
to I think the oil and a bunch of people
standing outside including bacharin and
he started to give it to them because
what are you doing here
this is the way he celebrates for him
it's online
you can't you can't hear all the words
but it was and everyone ran away like
mice they ran they ran
whatever hated this idea of you know I'm
going to the oil now so yes people lined
up and he gave them to Tucker and there
were times they needed brokers
but
it's called celeb watching
celeb watching yes I don't want to say
that has to show them to say about it
you know but Sadiq
so
today it's it's it's it's the in thing I
just just this Shabbos someone was
telling me how
I don't want to say who because you know
is that ever today he's considered
whatever
but he did photo he he he went to see
certain Rapunzel to have photo shoots I
mean that's that was the perception of
certain symptoms I wasn't there the
point is that this was never
never in khabar something that we made
that was important and the fact was the
Scottish discussed we discussed it we it
was disgusted anyway the point is
she knew that her sister would be very
upset so she kept the low profile that's
a very important to understand this
person but again primarily it was
because by Nature
she wasn't that type of person so yes
the rabbits of failure of software
Abuelo's wife was a more outgoing person
and enjoyed that the publicity you know
was not
now
there was a heimbush I had some very
good friends in Crown Heights
what do I mean she really enjoyed
speaking Volvo Russian
if she had a woman or someone who came
to see her who spoke Russian she could
she loved talking Russian
they say that in her house she had
Russian newspapers
and whoever is not a mute yourself
please she had Russian newspapers and
French newspapers because they lived in
France for seven years so she knew
French
in general when she shopped for dishes
and clothing it was of the best quality
so the word that I used for her years
ago is that she was an elegant lady an
elegant woman
a classy woman
she was not the type of episode that
when you looked at her you saw
Antiquated the Judaism from the 2000
years ago in a cave in Haifa
she was an individual
who dressed
well
she had the finest China
her house was uh spotless superb
organized and when a guest came both a
man or a woman to say hello to her she
greeted them with the greatest honor
another thing
children those children of people she
knew who would bring their children to
her for a bracha
she she gave them all these treats
well she treated them like children in
other words
I want to end the coming to a rabbitson
you know she she tried making them feel
very comfy very comfy you know
in other words this whole thing I'm
going to visit a rabbits and how am I
going to dress and how am I going to
look and what am I gonna say she tried
to break that down so you shouldn't feel
that way especially children
she took a great interest in in
the the pride of Lubavitch
and this these two things I'm going to
tell you now are probably the two most
important things as far as what she did
as a Robinson as the rabbit's wife for
the world of Le babish the world of
Chabad number one
during that year 50 to 51 after her
father passed away right and I mentioned
to you there was a controversy who
should be the rabbit
and I remember
he didn't want to beat up I'm telling
you he was so happy doing his work for
the Americans and kahas and and the
negunim Chabad organizations and
learning and davening and being a
private person
then the pressure comes and says hey
uh your father won't pass away the Elder
has said them and they say we need and
we want you because we know you're a
great town
and you're you're very friendly with the
bahram that we're in 770 in the 40s
would tell over and others right
so so the rapper was the he was the the
go-to man you know the the more friendly
person
and he didn't want it
so they they say I you know I I don't
have this in writing but they say that
it was his wife
this is what's going to celebrate her
yard cycle today his wife said to him to
the rebel he said
if if you don't take over the leadership
of the Bible
my father's my grandfather's years of of
the hard work and the Messina Snapfish
in Russia will go to waste it will all
dissipate it all fall apart
and you have to understand that that
comment of 1950 was very very
appropriate and real because 1950s not
1994 when I would ever passed away
1994 were middle of a.com era
uh affluence is at its peak
the Judaism and Orthodoxy is highly on
the rise
the bowel tuba movement is flourishing
right
so then you can argue you know lebovich
even without the never physically being
alive and and other organizations but in
this case
hey
thought there's going to be a mass
Exodus and people are going to end up in
a psychiatric ward and you can put a
lock on above it I interviewed khaims
poll Tech in Marion Station Pennsylvania
in
1994 I think 495. it's in my book
conversations with her ever
so and he said he told that the test
couple on on Nightline and it's you can
see it
and it didn't happen now the contrary
last night was the Kinesis my daughter
of America with my granddaughter
five thousand women
five thousand women in in a room in a
banquet
and the stories you hear it's online
today you can hear it online not just
from the schluchites that have you know
very successful Chabad houses but the
little tiny ones here and there
the speaker last night was a journalist
uh what was her name raviv
she made a very good point after you
know lording the Great accomplishments
of of the chabadas that are very
successful very known he said I'm here
to celebrate those that are not known
and she said when you make an event for
50 people and only seven come I I love
that that's cavaldi and she gave many
examples of what seems to be infantile
uh second secondary not important and
then failure and what seems that time is
failure she says no it's not it's great
you got to listen to what you said so
anyway anyway
in
1994 and now it's almost 30 years later
you have this explosion this booming the
success
the 1950s
people didn't have socks like my father
running around in the my barot ninetanya
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didn't wear socks because he couldn't
afford it because right people are in
transit camps the refugees
from
from Yemen from from Europe
it was apologize no one knew where is
this guy going to end up right
so now you can appreciate so what that
evidence said to them
you don't take over the leadership of
Lubavitch of Chabad
goodbye it's not going to be what
happened today let's be put a lock on
the on the door on the shop
so that's one very very
Vision look at the vision of the woman
this lady the vision that she had and
they say that that that was the camel
that broke that was the camel's back the
stroller broke the camel's back that the
devil did accept the leadership that's
one important you say foundational idea
that she did for us in Lubavitch number
two
was during the swearing case
which was a heart-wrenching a a
difficult time
the most difficult time that we saw the
rebel was during those those those days
those months those that year
for a month straight he he went to the
oil every day and you know the devil
went to Royal he didn't eat he just
drank something he wouldn't eat till at
night when he came back
and it took a toll on his health
and um
she was the post
Robert krinsky you know was very
concerned and he wanted to try to stop
it and the never said she'll do just
fine
she'll do just fine and the deposition
is also online or was online I've seen
it several times
parts of it at least for sure anyway
there's one line there that is
outstanding where Nate Lewin the our
lawyer is the you know has is the posing
and asking questions and the opposing
attorneys and everyone's listening
so so he says
Mr schneerson Robertson schneerson how
are we interested I don't remember and
he says
did the swarim did the books belong to
your father or to Chabad
it's almost a Verbatim quote okay
and she says
they belong to Chabad because my father
belonged to the hasita
brilliant answer a real brilliant answer
and that answer was used by judge sifton
in his in his in his decision as part of
his decision
that here the daughter who would have
been one of two inheritors of the
library she says no
it's not my private library because my
father wasn't private because my father
was a rabbit
my father was a Sadiq he shouldn't say
these words I'm extrapolating and
opening it up for you and therefore his
entire being as a rep in the satiq of
the of the of the Babbage belongs to
Hasina
you don't have any to him you're not in
it but we have plenty of wannabes here
in Borough Park in Williamsburg who
opened the shop and have no Casita
you know and they come come they they
hire them they raise money to bring
people in they give them children
and then they make a Tish once in a
while
I have her see them
I don't have to tell you you know what
I'm talking about but
if not for them there's no what we call
rabbista Vera means rabbit the the rabba
hood the rubber Dynasty there's no
rapist of it
and that episode
she said
to
that Lewin and record it in in in the
trial that this Library
belongs to hasidim to khabad because my
father belonged to Chabad and when we
think about it
Not only was this a a a a a Genius
answer
legally in a trial but I I look at it
more philosophically
what she said about what adebra is and
this is relevant to us as we learn
khasidis right
is not an individual
who decided to open up shop it's totally
wrong a rep is a Collective Soul what we
call in Hebrew clothes
and this Collective Soul has every
Collective right so he has your sin
valvol and Hillel and from myself and
motion and Avi and everyone and joining
everyone else and Claudia slow that's
what a Collective Soul means
so this Collective Soul is only a
Collective Soul in doing what he needs
to do
to fulfill God's mission on Earth
because
the fascinating thought
you know it's a fascinating thought
so this is the second most important
teaching that she shared with
this is public the first thing I told
you we don't have a public record of it
but this we have a public record so you
know it can't be denied that she said it
you can you can interpret a different
League that Grant you know granted I'm
not saying I'm this interpretation that
I'm sharing is the only interpretation
but but clearly this is public
so this is a little bit about her now
Maisha you wanted to say or ask
something go ahead
said it wasn't on record what was the
first point because the first point was
that she told the red but if you don't
become if you don't take the leadership
that the hasida want you my father and
grandfather's Dynasty will will become
not it'll be and it'll end and finished
and you can close up shop
and that she said in 1950 and I I gave
you some background to understand that
at that time that was a very true
statement in other words today today or
1994 you can argue no and the proof is
the rabbit physically passed away and
there's five thousand women Gathering
and doing and there's Chabad all over
the world
how is that possible to look physical
the babita rep is not there some say you
can argue that way I don't agree with
that argument but I'm saying You could
argue but in 1950
it was kipshota it literally was that
way clear Maisha clear
got lost yeah
yeah the question is yeah
good question I had was well did I miss
what was it the dog
Dove hiking Dove hiking
though if I can came to the river to be
manager Marvel like everyone else and he
said some words I forget what he said
but he mentioned I think he said to the
red but your wife was so special
so the rabbit just out of the blue
comment to him yes people underestimated
her
Unison and then Hillel yeah
yeah and and you see I didn't see her
then and you did I saw my blame her so
maybe probably you weren't around 1980
like boy Amber you're talking about 1977
so you were I was there 77 but I didn't
see her you prop you were there yes but
you know again if you were there 15
years he saw her one time I was there
all my life and I saw it one time heal
up
I just wanted to bolster your point
about 1950 versus 1994. most of the
hasiduses had been local
in Europe and they'd all been dislocated
only only a few survived had survived
really
Consolidated so uh so there were
probably hundreds and hundreds of
classes that disappeared 100 you know my
grandfather always show them I remember
like now
growing up as a boy you know and a
momish he had this little black book
that he brought with him I guess from
Poland
and he would open up and he would say
look at this Sadiq and there's a little
description all of them
were gone killed in the map by the Nazis
all of them and my grandfather he didn't
know all of them but he he was an
Alexander hussard you know so he spoke
mostly about Alexander but
I I I I I'm seconding what you're saying
yeah unfortunately the most were
decimated to kill it yeah Alexander kind
of got absorbed into another class cedis
I don't remember gear gear
but but well I wanna I wanna just for
the record
um during their Heyday in Poland they
were rivals
uh they were both like almost identicals
in many of their things but they were
Rivals right you know rival sense are
you Alexander Crossing or Gary Huston
but Alexander that was really decimated
guess survive because the Gary remedy
ibrahamas I think went over there to
Israel in 1935 so before the war so he
was able to make the transition and
build this hasidus narrative thrill
but but Alexander didn't Alexander Rebel
was killed
I mean only in the last uh will be I
think there's a shoe in in there it's
really then but they brought your
shalayan and there's something here in
Borough Park but it's it's you know it's
all relatively speaking small you know
yeah
available any questions and available as
I still
uh whether
she was
a similar private with regards to
visiting
um
and second
um that
foreign
I hear your point I'm not sure I agree
with that second point it needs to be
looked at because
because for example when the fried
Carrabba was arrested in in in in
Leningrad in 1927 she was there and she
they say swallowed some papers and then
she did some missions for him but you
know so we would have to really you know
do a study compared to her sister but I
would think that yes she was more
private than her sister I I would agree
with that at least with the sister that
remained alive Hannah the one that
Shayna that was killed in Islam
I don't know but to your first point and
just briefly
what was the first Point again quiet
what was the first point
oh sorry Medina first of all so first of
all the Frida cadabra was in America
contain you know confined to a
wheelchair basically everything was
upstairs hit the davening and the
learning and the Fabregas and she wasn't
in the kitchen she was right there
she was not as private because even
after you passed away in 1953 times a
year she would make a messy bar upstairs
you'd just kiss live put him and you'd
base Thomas and invite the older hasidim
give tea and cake and and had the elders
didn't speak a little bit but she hosted
it so she was much more kind of you know
took a lead role also on the stationary
right after the previously passed away
but I told you this before the cop says
and Below there's the two the two uh
son-in-laws
also she was blind uh no uh deaf deaf
she was deaf for many years many many
years
so her her ability what was limited but
I would I would say that she was more
outgoing yeah
you have to also understand that she was
the daughter of avram schneerson of
kishnev who was not there who had a
different you know you know the like the
house the different kind of house maybe
more sophisticated and all of that and
um yeah I would say that she was more
outgoing I I would agree with that yes
uh yes Maisha
So speaking of that what about the
rabbits and Hannah the the Rashad's wife
what was what was heard uh involvement
in the community
nothing not nothing because
didn't accept her husband as their ever
her husband was the head of the yeshivas
that wasn't her Department
um she you know kind of fought all those
years until it came out she was the
driver behind the whole Library case it
wasn't her son Barry it was her
she was she she was very unhappy for for
all
the years
um she was a a bright woman
um I know that from you know I know that
um she considered herself kind of real
lebovich
I think in a way she looked at her
sister as Les Lubavitch and as she was
she was with her grandfather she was
older only by two years I think than her
sister but you know her style she she
knew about hasidim she was you know she
spoke about bohrim she spoke about the
must be him she spoke about the Rapunzel
that came to see her father you know so
she she considered herself and it's
interesting she married a girl and the
gurrari is a very sophisticated people
you know you know so so she was the one
who married garari and and and and
married the rebel the rebel was more
modest and not you know you know I'm I'm
you know this special person you have
the guerraris they for very fine people
but they have a certain ego and elitism
I'm gonna use the word elitism I'm not
saying in a terrible way but they do
have an elitism and I I think that she
had a certain elitism in her view that
she is The Real McCoy
we have
schmuck we'll see everyone tomorrow same
time same channel have a great day
Shalom bye-bye
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