Rabbis Sacks & Feinstein; Rashab's unique style in Chasidus and Chabad Yeshiva

team who was actually at my uh daughter's wedding and and set up raj under the hoop and probably the last time he was in 770 was the seven years ago i hope to publicize that picture later this week he was a very refined per very refined person and a big time talk um so that's that okay so you want a little yeah you know i was just going to say that we definitely want to for brain about what we talked about last week about but i have to say that these two robotim that were nifty that we lost maybe maybe maybe we could ask you to speak about each one maybe for just a very brief moment because it's very significant that we that we lost them okay okay not you know a little i know i'm not you know very well versed in their lives uh they're you know but um you know rabbi sacks or unison sacks known as jonathan sachs was a very brilliant philosopher he studied philosophy that that was his um you know his degree was in philosophy and um i'm not sure if he studied at issue university under episode of i was trying to figure it out this morning but if not he definitely identified and uh learned uh you know thing teachings of rabies elevator thereof so you know already that put him in a uh an arena and a domain where he had um you know a comfort level with uh the rebbe and la babbage and in addition to that he met some of the senior rabbis in england rabbi shmuel and vogel and and others who you know were very you know bright intelligent and they uh expose expose them to the teachings i believe of the rep again whether they were the first i don't know but and uh he you know wrote uh in english his writing is superb if you've read his writing it's his speaking was superb and his writing was was was tremendous and he wrote torah studies which you've seen probably right it's the rebels some classics some classic citrus of the rebel that he put into you know everyday english for intelligent people you know not oxford english uh where you you know thou you know those type of words where you don't really understand half of the things and to do that it's a great accomplishment because you know the the sikhs the rabbis spoke said them in yiddish then they you have to put that into english and it was a great feat and in the chabad world this was used i myself used it over the years in giving classes because he had he had very good the way he presented the ideas were very good especially for a teaching of balabatam and all that and um he uh he had yeshidas i think it's online some of it um he tells and the rabbit you know the rabbit you know he thought he would be going in for abraca and the rabbit kept him there for a long time and and discussed with him you know what can be done for students in in england and and things like that and uh so between i i the way i see it this is my own humble opinion between rabbi salavaitchik and the rebber and robert steins also you know who he knew and respected i think that gave him um a real understanding of uh of of of the rebel and he and he had a very very um deep feeling and and and for exitus that's good so you know he was a philosopher right and of course he was a chief rabbi and those are very different positions and in addition to that he was he wasn't uh you know hussed they had no i don't think he wore a garter and anything but but in his mind it seems to me that he was um very hasidic very bad acidic you know the mabinidas and uh you listen to to a talk of his last night we were here during blah blah listening a little bit you know he was a very very um he saw he saw the larger world he you know he he really and that wasn't an old man he really got a very good understanding of of of the world and and what the contribution of of of young jews are to the world what he had a very broad vision a broad vision of what yiddish kite is and what kadus boroku wants another amazing thing that came out yesterday i don't know if you read it or heard it but he he had the macho of the illness when he in his 30s and he had it again in his 50s and now he had it in the 70s and he succumbed to it right but no one knew really about it that he had in the 30s and 50s he never spoke about it and um there were some comparisons made to some other great people jewish and not jewish who you know were ill and then they you know spoke about through their poetry and writing and music they they speak about their illness and a way to overcome it uh he didn't do that so that's something interesting you know it's uh it's interesting and uh you could say i don't know i don't know if you could say that i was going to say that uh some you see a look at jewish leaders do they talk about their own you know health and issues you know not necessarily you know i don't know anyways that's really i think depends on the person some people need the the outlet regardless of how great and bright you are or not some people by talking about it it makes it easier for them and other people uh it's not that way whatever so that's a little bit about rabbi rabbi sax it's um it's a great loss for the collective jewish world maybe not the hasidic world of mayor sharon gould and borrowport and williamsburg but definitely for the collective jewish world yes yes uh a certain memory i remember a story that i think was rabbi sax of him sending a letter to the rebel uh and the rebbe sent sent the letter back to him with the word the letter i circled he told the story are you familiar with this no it's not with him the stories with rabbi weinreb of baltimore i don't think so [Music] the story is that the one of these gentlemen what of these great gentlemen sent a letter to the rebbe and the rebbe sent the letter back circling every time he used the word i kind of like reflecting back uh uh a a center uh being centered on himself in a certain way um rabbi winer of the story is that there's a jew involved there's a jew in washington to right consult with name one okay okay so maybe you're right yeah that's okay if you if you tell me it's two different stories that's the one i meant yeah i think it's i think it's two different stories okay i i you know it's it it just came to my mind well it's interesting you say that because yesterday in the talk that i heard here for i don't know when it's from but he's speaking about he suggest oh it was a ted talk it was a ted talk it's online so he says i said that right yeah about about a 10 minute and it's it's excellent and and there he says i suggest the bottom line is that we substitute for the word self other you got to listen to it so it says instead of self improvement other improvement instead of self esteem other esteem so you know maybe that's that's in line with what you're telling me the story with the rebbe but um i'm sure it can be found online okay now just to jump over to the david feinstein um adobe feinstein was like his father a most humble humble person you know i always say that the greatness of ramosha feinstein is not the amount of traitor that he knew and the sack and it was considered the positive because that's that's a given in every generation you had one or two such people but it's the humility to have such such knowledge and and and to have such humility he was so humble in his shul in the lower east side no no no you know the same shoe building yeshiva building wherever you darwin over there um for the last 60 years you know and and and you could find a great tighter scholar sitting with him talking with him or a little boy talking to him or a teenager and like without any fanfare whatsoever and that's you know tremendous uh humility another and that that to me is the real sign of of a person who's who's really uh uh talmud is to be to be bereft of of of guyva and ego now if david rabdov and his son he had the two sons of david and rabbi and roofing's a little younger and uh barakashev still alive and he has the yeshiva in staten island the pharisee shalom has a division of staten island which is across the verrazano bridge here in next you know between borough park bensonhurst and and staten island anyway um rev was also a very modest person i recall um we asked him to read the ksuba under the hooper and he refused now he's older than his brother he was a much known as you know he's a much greater talmud for sure he was seen as the replacement for his father in so you know usually you the the reading of the super is given to either arasha shiva a rav i mean again i'm not it doesn't say it has to be that way and you know but you know you want someone who's able to read our aramaic you know and then and knows where to stop and where to start you know sometimes people read the tsuba and uh if you listen to them it's you know it's it's it feel you know there's ignorance there's there's a lack of um annoying you know what they're saying and they read through sentences without the periods so you try to give it to someone who is a a stickleton right so who who better than david feinstein to read the super at our daughter's wedding and he refused you know he said i'm older or it's harder to stand as long but i felt it was like humility i really felt it was in and and who read it was his brother bruven uh read it you know my majesty my uh my son-in-law's mother father was the administrator for moshe feinstein she was pharisee you shall i am in the lower east side his name was kapilavich in fact he has michael from ramosha and in one of my upcoming books i'm going to publish the smith and said some nice pictures and and so they were very very close very tight i mean in a way you know without this rabbit couple of lovable moisture you see it wouldn't go anywhere he had you know the financial end you know the the grants the programs the tuitions whatever so so so but but he he uh he didn't want to read the super he didn't want to read the super so we gave him a brother there's a picture of that some pictures you know we honor with a brook of course and and you have to understand that in the last 30 years of 40 years not many italian not many lit fox came to 770. okay uh it just it it just wasn't uh you know chabad took a certain approach i'm talking even before the mashiach controversy you know the rabbit came out with the mitsuyama in the 70s the mitzvah campaigns and a lot of a lot of people they were they had an issue with it you know there was very different to what they knew the bavitch in russia rob moshe came from a city beyond luban was my father's shiva in lud laboratory yeshiva in the 1950s and he became of the barbecue he was a talmud of the prophets of you know yeshiva somehow he he was nascar to lubavitch and he became a babaji his brother was like best friends with ramosa and and every year when rab nachman would come to new york for tishrei for to the rabbit for tishrei he would visit and they spent time they were very very close you know and and all this contributed to the moisture had a tremendous yeah i don't know if you read it but i've written a lot about it and writing more about it and i hope one day maybe they have an exclusive book on ramosha and the rebbe but the the the he had a great derek harris for the rebel and they ever had great their hurts for him he had a wonderful relationship but nevertheless you know the the people around ramosa didn't feel that way many times and he took positions that they were upset about i mean they you know wrote they were upset about and and some even wanted to oust him from his leadership as the head of akudis in new york because they felt he doesn't have the backbone in various issues not just with lubavitch to stand up and and and you know say a different opinion they felt he was you know more you know more soft and he was soft he was soft okay so there was a lot of politics all around but he did not pay attention to that if he felt something is right he said it and ramos and and with with lubavitch and that he sided with the rep almost in every issue he sided with the rebel at least publicly okay and this was something that many of his contemporaries who worked with him were not happy about i mean i know this from the inside from his secretary who's a laboratory he was a clone destinative and he was hired in 69 and he he worked with her moisture till i think 1980 and and he lives in there to throw i'll give you that hint and you i don't think you guys know him uh and he's a gold a gold mine of information and i've been getting information from him and you could write a whole book about the behind the scenes of their abundant and it it's it's a whole discussion i really don't want to discuss not at least on facebook you know so so what's my point i'm making a long point the point is i guess that that although the so so so for for litvishira abundant to come to 770 from the 70s and on was not was not a daily occurrence it wasn't a monthly occurrence either it was a very exception to the rule right so here in 2009 in 2013 for uh david feinstein who were talking about passed away and and his brother approving to come to the wedding at 770 you know is is a statement it's a statement that um you know they're not just coming because of the familiar connection with um my you know my son-in-law's mother but also because you know at the end of the day they knew what lubavitch and that ebba represented and they knew it because of their father did you did did you guys know that in 1942 there was a serious consideration for that measure to become the russia shiva of 770. that i didn't know 1942 and if not for a family member he would have been the russian shiva the the previous rebel of joseph yitzhak and and and the staff of schmuler victor bisel jacobson the rabbit mentally the the like the board you could say they wanted him that major feinstein would have been i think about it you imagine a bunch of fights they would have been known as the as the shiva of the babits i think they would have put lubavitch in in the orthodox kharadi american world on a whole different plateau but it was uh stopped because of a relative who not going to go into the details but you can hear it online from rabbi greenblatt who's like 95 years old and he was a student in the yeshiva and he says i remember when so-and-so came daily to talk to ramosa and discourage him from taking the job so the point i'm making is that rabbisha had a you know a good feeling because he was an isha emis and his son this rep david seems to me the little i knew about him that he had the same humility and the same emma's kite the same truthfulness you know there are amongst the litvision russia shivers and and possibly you know and whatever they there's the more of the sense of you spoke about hillel the eye the ego the self you know that's that's part of a certain culture okay it's not just uh an individual there's a culture you know and um the feinsteins at least and abduvid were not that way and i think that is a uh a tremendous um a tremendous uh stress that such a yid you know gave to the jewish world for 91 years you know for 91 years he gave that he was also very careful not to kind of deviate from his father's pisces denim rulings just last night i heard a little short clip about cessation of life at what point you considered one to be dead and shrita was he he argued and believed at the point of you when he stopped breathing so the interviewer a few of them they were talking to him they said well robert tendler argues it's not that and rabbit handler is his brother-in-law avi retender moshe tender is the brother-in-law to the david feinstein mercia tender married and racist daughter so i i i was i paid attention to the way he answered the question he said i cannot tell you what my brother-in-law said nor what he knows now he's a biologist moshe tendler was a phd i believe in biology you know if he if he argues that otherwise you know i maybe he's right i can't tell you all i can tell you is what my father said and and and and the interviewer is like probing him from the right and the left and inside and outside so what what do you see i i really appreciate it and this is this i think is also you know associated with humility you know if you're going to say over if you're going to repeat something in the name of arof in the day especially when it comes to an issue of deciding what moment is death here there's no room for uh you know fantasies it's this or not you know you know what i'm saying right it's very serious and he was very careful just to repeat and you should listen to it it's online it's not a long clip and i think if you see the way he answers the question tells you about him that's the point i'm making moshe asked to tell you a little bit about him so i'm just sharing what i just what i saw and it tells you what type of person there are people who are very flippant and even in when they repeat things in this one's name and that one's name and they add a nuance here and a twist here and up and it down you have to be very careful especially when it comes to piscoden but not only when it comes to rulings in halakha the mishnah says that whoever repeats something in someone's name you bring redemption to the world what do we understand from that ghazal how careful you have to be when you repeat it in other words if you don't repeat it properly you're not bringing to the world on the contrary god forbid you're bringing destruction to the world why because you're destroying that person and by the way that's one reason you understand why in chabad and in some other communities we we know it's a big issue we don't you we don't eulogize someone we don't make a hespet why not why not because we we're afraid that the person who will eulogize the person will say something that isn't exactly the case and true because the nature is that when you talk about a person and here he's just passed on and here are all these good mourners and people you want to make them feel good that's not you know is it appropriate to say a lie about a person at that time so in the bavish is not to eulogize someone i'll tell you as a story in 1964 a rove in tel aviv his name was rabbi bear sisling it was a a great time with him it was and he learned in the babbage in the original shiva in the early 1900s 1900s so when even yeshiva was founded he was from the first students there and he was a very very uh muslim we call such a he was good in gemara go goodness good and singing good and organizing like he had all the traits right all the traits and this raphael bear sisling passed away in ello of 1964. now he was a rav in a in a local school in tel aviv i forget now the name i wrote it down in israel unknown true big shul hundreds of people no you know we're saying uh sure who knows if it was a prob might have been fired asking us whatever and he had a lot to do with making mikveh's kosher in the city in tel aviv and because of his knowledge he was looked at and respected and he and he was part of the respected rabboni miners his role in those years i'm talking now about in the 40s in the 50s so he knew and he came from russia so he knew it upon them and people from russia okay and like i've told you many times the issue of khasid and ms not them and lit fox in russia those years was not a big issue it wasn't a big issue yeah purim you you know you'd make a joke about each other you know what i'm saying but they intermarried with each other and i can give you names of families to that even that come from such inter marriages okay between see them if it's not them and it wasn't an issue because the culture was the same you know how does a lit a real little from russia speak yeah there's like a lubavitcher the the the accent is mom is like a chabad like at least we don't speak like they don't speak like hungarians or galaxy honors or polish people they speak like russia and lithuania okay so there was a there's a commonality it was a very strong commonality okay so so rabbi zieslin was part of that uh environment anyway in 64 he passes on and there's a yeshiva that you've heard of today it's called slobodka and it was known then heaven yeshiva right one of the russians was a yid by the name of did you hear his name okay and he came from slovakia in in in europe he was a big talmud and he knew rabbi ziesland after levia he shows up it's on tel aviv and i think he lived in jerusalem or right with the yoshi was the heaven yeshiva and he goes over to rabbi yaakov landau right rob the landowners have been the reborn name of bernay brock and rabbi landau was a was a friend of are of of of rabbi zeisling they were both lubavitchers right and they both weren't so he was conducting the leviathan so he goes over to him and he says uh um in yiddish you know he said um if if you don't mind i'd like to be maspid i'd like to eulogize this one i prepared a eulogy so revelando turns to him and he says with all the respect it's so wonderful that you would like to say a few words for for bears islam but the meaning in lebanese we don't make us pay them we take the person from the from the the tahara straight to the cavern say a kaddish and do the rituals and we go back that's it yes can i ask you a question about that i've always been puzzled by that what that meant that we don't make is fading because i've heard you and other people if what i would consider is the distinction that you're making that normally the circumstances in which hispania are made before somebody's buried yes in in the in the in in either in the uh in the funeral home you know or okay some yeah also yeah sure sure like in the in the funeral of god yeah or or in the yeshiva or in the show where the person was a rav or rasha shiva or or of course okay and by the way it's not just for us the the by the littoring the lead fox uh they they make us pay them regularly yeah um okay and and also hilo you see in halal regarding not saying making his bait and doing the listen so you do see this in your firm making has paid them right because it's real okay anyway the bottom line is rabbi sarna couldn't swallow this he couldn't swallow it in other words and now i'm paraphrasing okay he came from your lion in 1964 you didn't get into you know a a jet car or or uh or or a plane you had to slept on a bus and buses and those you know it's a big deal and he takes away time from teaching and being a yeshiva little tita he's doing it for and he comes there and rabbi landa tells him i'm not letting you make a husband i mean that was like very shocking to him and he stands over there and he sees that another a student of of uh of rabbi zeisslin goes over to his casket and this was a flemingham castleman the mashbiya in kwarkabad who i've told you about many times my father's mashpeer and he says i don't have sure how however he addressed this rebbe he's mashipia he says when you go to heaven this is something that you see them do you know notify the rebel notify our debtor that uh that you know that you're there and we're here and it's like give give regard give regards to the rabbit it's very you know uh very like out of the box but that's something that older siddhim and others in lubavitch again what's the source i don't know but it's a is it a feeling whatever when rabbi sarna heard that listen to what he said he said like this i see that not only do you play rebel and husset on earth but i see you play rep and close it also in heaven and i in other words like you know at the end of the day he was a lit he wasn't a hostage so to him the whole idea of a red van is like it's like a game okay you know what i'm saying he doesn't relate to it it's not his cup of tea but he so he you know but he says and even in heaven there's a rapper so why am i sharing this with you there were literature who you know they they they stayed and kept and they didn't have that humility towards another path that's the way they were raised that's the it's not as bad it's the way they their culture what i'm saying is i think it seems to me that the humility that moishe feinstein and his son ragdoll over shalom had was a much more humble towards others and particularly in with lubavitch and khabad it seems to it seems from various things including you know that the rep in the late seventies suggested to rab moisha to to restart wearing um to wear up in a tombstone so moshe wrote to the river back he used to put them on in europe but he didn't find a sulfur yellowshire mayan here to write him parshas of rabino tom so there was no problems he sent them rabbi zurkin and robert jerkin wrote the passages for hermoisha rabeno tom's film and that type of and and he started to put him on albeit maybe privately not in public in the base mattress in the shoe but we know that he he he he wore those children i've been in towns and i don't think many electricity shivers and above him would do that you know even if the laboratory represent them a pair of beno i'm not so convinced so this is a little bit more about uh rabbi but his son if you if you see him his his even his physical body and his posture he was like a moisture short he wasn't tall you know maisha married a tall lady did you know that his wife was a tall so they asked him so he says i want to have tall children but but not all of his children were tall i think some were taller but the dove it seems like he was more the the height of his father which was pretty it was pretty short liberation was really short you know so he has he has he has definitely what to look after you said no just look up to her you have to look up there right okay so uh just a little bit about the rebrush up and the see this maple continue another time but um the the reber shop was whose 160th birthday yemen lettuce was where he splits hairs and is a very analytical and truly until the rashad we called or the rebel that's another way that he was referred to until him the chabad hasidis was really even for khabad khasid more of a closed book for the average khasi it was only those gifted very knowledgeable ones who were very who were able and capable of understanding um the lots of the concepts and the reason is as we've been learning for years and at times we come to some very you know intellectual pieces and you have to be very steeped in it and then and you have to understand it and it takes a lot of mind work and time and knowledge and the average costed in lithuanian and russia and here and there didn't have that time uh because they were running around to make a living and then and making sure that uh you know they're not persecuted so it was really a a closed book and if you look really into the my muram of the tzamak zedek which maybe one day we'll learn a little bit i'd like to see that happen but you know our torah ira is um [Music] is a like a 20 25 set volume or more of the summatives in my mooring so it's right so elaborate but yet the style of the mimorum is more is not is different than the rashaba let's for what do i mean he'll bring a madras then i'll bring a piece of kabbalah and then i'll bring a piece of gemara and then i'll bring him together and it's a wonderful study and it's hasidis but you could tell that it's three separate things that he's putting together the integration of them of of everything being one where you can't tell almost that it's all being put together and the development of those ideas in an elaborate way in an analytical way began with the rashad only the rashab and rashab said about himself i think it was in 1894 it's it's printed in the talks the previous letter but he says he says i it bothers me that i didn't have the time to sit as many hours with hasidim and and listen to them relate to history and stories of hasidim of the past he writes that he said that and his son the rabbi rayats writes it so what do you mean you didn't have time what were you doing in the bavarians you know you were playing golf like what were you doing and he says that he was involved with hasidic thought and and and and to understand hasidic thought the ideas the hospital we call the haskola of hasidis takes hours and hours and days and simply it didn't allow for him to sit and have hasidis where people sit around and tell stories so so that i when i read that that put things in perspective about him he was also from very young on he was very intense in his avoidance to the point where he once started to like bleed from from his nose from the intensity of concentration this is what it says and another hustler chastised the rashbots because the rashbots was educating him in in hasidic lifestyle and also in hasidic ideology and he he put this kind of pressure a focus and concentration on him training him that way and it and he was a he took he was intense and and it started to affect his health so another hostage reps almost latipolsky was his name who was who knew them both chastised rashbots for putting this pressure on the rashad and and and the previous and the and the rebel marash his father of shmuel heard about it and he signed it with reps repsalmon zlataposky and he asked rashbach's not the pressure that but what do we see from this we also see that rashaba was a very intense person so his intensity of of of studying hasidis took all of him you know like you know there's some people you can do a few you know they do a few things at the same time there's some people that when they immerse themselves in something there's nothing else there it seems to me that ashab was that way from that comment that i didn't really have much time to hang out and listen to stories and and history from sydney of of your because i was involved in learning to see this and understanding see this so when he became the the rabbi when he and he taught hasidis and especially when he opened up his yeshiva in 1897 and the students the first students like i told you about absolute bear zeselen were gifted and and talented and knowledgeable they all came in already very highly knowing lots of gemura and all that and and they they um they identified with him in a way and he introduced to them the whole concept of learning cities deeply and darvening with yucasides and that was a kiddush but the style that he used was the analytical style so you look when you learn his my marim and let's let's take even the countries of mayan that we're learning now avi which countries of mayan like i told you was written for who for balabata okay let's let's step back for a moment right we are learning now we're holding i think at the eighth mimer we've learned quite a bit and you do you see how he takes this idea of privileges and and he doesn't stop he goes further and further and each time he he repeats and he adds he repeats in the end he goes back it's like he's he's going you know he's he's analyzing he's he's tear he's tearing open he's he he's splitting hairs and and and this nuance and that nuance that's what i mean and this is a mimer for bella batman this isn't a mimer for yeshiva bakarim this style lent itself to what was happening in russia at the turn of the century which was the the ism the ism fad communism zionism intellectualism humanism all this was happening then and that ashab did an amazing thing that he was criticized for what did he do during the shreva breathless of the previous rabbit that previously had been married you'd gibble ello 1897 during the brokers he announces that the father announces to the people and the guests that came we are opening alabama to yeshiva 1897 when slobodki i'm sorry when uh when vladimir the famous yeshiva that started in 1802 i think in velojin closed its doors in 1892. you know why they closed its doors i'll tell you the truth because many in many books they tell you not nonsense that why they close the yeshiva is because haskula crept into the yeshiva and the students who became radicalized with a scholar basically threatened the russia shiva and that if you don't let us stay in the issue because the the the hon hola the administration wants them out you want to be uh you want to follow haskallah not in the yeshiva and they caused an uproar where one they pitted one russia shiva against the other this is facts this is not made up stories you can look at academic books there you'll see the truth of writers okay with sources there's a fact and the government also put pressure and close them down so the government closing them down because of legal issues of not studying russian and the yeshiva and other such issues together with the the the map the coup and that the scholars students who were radicalized with a scholar caused 1892 velojin closes its doors almost a hundred years 90 years of yeshiva or whatever and and and the top rashiva came out of it and tambien and here only five years later in 1897 comes along de la baby who knew of all this because it's the same region right and he opens up a yeshiva and he opens up yeshua for students so the criticism that he got from elder laboratory who came to the wedding was what are you doing you're basically opening uh a study hall you're giving a place for haskala to creep in now to your hasidic to students who coming from hasidic homes or other homes that wanna be them they wanna learn not only well the lit fox not only the lit were were impacted by a scholar now your hasidis your guys are gonna be impacted and they were against it and he said to them you have two choices either you could support me or not but the yeshiva is opening and what what so now ask yourself a question what was he thinking the answer is the famous talk that he gave since tata 1899 that he said that the students that learned in this laboratory of shiver he quoted that the mother caller muhammad based of it whoever goes out to the davidic wars kratos kaiser and get crisis you have to write a get to your wife because in case you get killed in war your wife shouldn't remain in naguna right that's the halacha cited that and he explained you are going out you students who are learning this yeshiva going out to fight a war what's the war the war against secularism against communism against those later but against humanism against all the isms against haskallah yes you're fighting a war and you should know you are in in in david's and david mello's army and you have to you want to succeed you have to do one thing get crisis you have to cut yourself off from kashmiris if you will separate yourself from gusmius in the sense of indulgence and all that you will succeed and these students accepted it 1899 sinclair state 1899 and they became known as the nato isla the lamplighters which we call today in kabada lamplighters that land player sikha started in 1899 and they became the lamplighters and they tuck a lead away and you should know that in the babbage it was like living there's a famous saying someone said that in lubavitch the world was back like 20 30 years so another class had said no no no a hundred years not 20 years 100 years i mean they literally were just separated and totally involved in avoidance hashem it's another discussion of ibrahimovic hashem one day to describe a little bit the atmosphere of what there was in the babbage at the turn of the century it was phenomenal but the kitser the kitzer this this was this was what the shop created and the previous letter and his and his staff he had great machines who was a great grandfather of remember foot of us who was a genuine heartfelt jew he was from the first p.m he brought and here's another thing just remind myself that i wanted to share with you this rabbi graham esterman he was there like main teacher of hasidis okay he was a hostage of the rashab's father he never tried really transitioned to become a hostage of the of the rashad now i'm asking you you're all either businessman former businessman you know you we you know i'm asking you if you would hire someone to be a teacher for your students or someone to market your product if they didn't believe in you would you hire them you got to be cuckoo you gotta be crazy it doesn't make sense the rashab hired rabshmu granam esterman who was a hustler of his father and never made the transition to become a cuss of his and he becomes the lead masjid he he was hired as the lead mashbeer for the resharps new yeshiva it makes no sense and every time i think about this because it blows my mind it shows what kind of jew that ashab was and what is that he didn't do this for his own self-aggrandizement he did it for the bakarim he wanted to create soldiers and leaders and people who will fight haskola and and and fight assimilation he felt they need to know about the culture of chabad as it was for the last 50 years before his yeshiva began and who was able to share that all of those four mashpeem they all were from the semester's time and such an important lesson for us and and and the end is he was right you know he's right the fact that he's not my husband and he's not learning he's learning my father and grandfather's hasidis and really that's his allegiance so what so he and i will one day have he'll take two shot glasses and and we'll argue it out if if it's important which it isn't but as far as the students why should they be deprived of knowing where they come from and what this movement and what this culture is about and i think this is such an important lesson for us today you know in education don't you have to choose the right educator if to whoever the right educator is that's the one don't look at is he with me or is he against me he's not gonna eat of course if if he if he openly goes against you that's a problem but we're not talking about that we're talking about someone who says listen uh you know i i uh my heart is elsewhere because when i was a student i was a hustler of this rebbe of this roof and now i become older and and there's a situation and you you want me to inspire and to teach i'll do that but you can't expect me to all of a sudden change what i have in my heart it doesn't work that way and this is this is a very sensitive issue but a very important issue and that ashab saw this and that's why he was such a visionary and that's why that's why he felt that even though vladimir closed in 1892 and he opens in 1897 with haskulla rampant he says these four gentlemen who come from the previous generation with the guidance of my son and myself we will give them such power and such teaching and so and we will create an environment which excludes the kashmiris that they will they will succeed and he was right because this rapture albert zizlin and others became rabbonim later in 1908 1909 in this town in that town and they made yeshivas and they made khadorim and and and they and and they built up yiddish kite so this is a little bit about the the rashad the sholem bear and uh maynard who who brought and this type and ever and ever since avi ever since he introduced his my muram to labage the average lubavitch student in yeshiva if if you want to know if he really understands khasidas must learn the rashfasidas can't get around it to appreciate our rabbis my moral you must learn the reshaps because the analytical style and the elaborate style is so helpful for understanding lines in lakota torah lines and other rebels my murmuring yes i wanted some for another time if you could uh develop that idea in connection with the ma of the rayats that we did for a couple years yeah right i will i will like this is only the beginning of our brain we still have to look at the other abbayem and like you said there are yachts but since it was there are shops i i wanted to uh you know talk more i appreciate it i just uh that came up as you said yeah anyone else have a question yes given us a comment yes yes very much surely the fact that itself how he started how he got born the little mother had a dream about providing a safer tower three people came to her and told her to write a statement and she wasn't sure about it and then a week later it happened again it went to her husband's river [Applause] and later some aesthetic confirmed that the three people in the dream were turned out to be able to [Music] the woman who had the baby right right and then what happened was they went to the symbolic civic and the sympathetic told them that they should broaden right in the case of turtles right away right right they hired a um behind the facial and they started writing a year later the favorite color was finished and um and under the baby the river of my life was born and they wanted to have that say for cover so so they went to the stomach and the semester said no not now so so one o'clock in the morning the sympathetic wakes up and instead now we have to do nothing visible and someone said it goes out holding the safer terror the river my life is holding the candle and they get the goodbye and to kill the cooper it's at two o'clock in the morning in the town and there was a there was a town uh chica and he's lying in the gut he wakes up and he sees the love of my heart telling the secretary uh somebody trying to take the turtle and he's wondering whether whether you'd be drinking too much so he goes back to sleep and he and and then the next morning he wakes up and then and then he tells everybody and everybody thought he was doing it but then there's [Music] so i heard this from jesse parker from apartheid and she told everyone have a great day we'll see everyone tomorrow tomorrow we're going to read we'll start yeah let's learn the mimer so have you my morim and mr sham will continue if i bring in the you know sooner than later but uh avi you want to say something no okay zeitgeist take care guys have a good day bye