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Rabbi Moshe Yosef Engel, shliach 54 yrs, Long Beach, CA - Yechidus for 10yrs - RC Dalfin #3
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okay I'm here interviewing the third
part
with in Long Beach California for 54
years since 1970 and he's telling us now
about his with the Reb from 1960 to 1970
had 10 years
of almost all the were the same
basically went in
as and said you surely keep him and hug
him with the letters
once saying to
me
and to give s before
before and I remember asking said before
and before
or don't ask me
why and never said to me like
this this is on
shabas and shabas you can't give
this how you
answer but you could give s by having by
having AR
over and how that went into and answered
before Shak I don't remember how the
connection was but I do remember for
years when I was married at the
beginning we never went without a
guess re said that shabas right you can
still do s by having guests that's very
interesting that's and
that's something that lasted for many
many
years always careful to
um anything else you remember did you
asked you know you
were probably asked about
and I believe two things
that one is
that that I should take different parts
of Ding and concentrate on it like the
this part and that should be the
concentration of this day and the next
part that should be the concentration I
remember exact me how that fit in with
the question I'm not sure but I do
remember the tell that
I also
remember let's go into a whole different
period I was born as a 2-year-old
boy was discovered as a 2-year-old Bo I
was born with a little hole in my heart
when you were two they they they found
that you had a little it was a murmur
yeah it was called an a sepal
defect so the doctors told my mother
have to operate on this but not now when
he'll be in his teens that's what we
operate I was 2 years
old now I'm 16 years
old and I'm going into the
re and I remember I don't remember if
was 16 or 17 you remember bringing the
Reel a whole bunch of pictures
ex
interest that I got from the doctor to
ask advice ask I don't remember exact
probably for
ADV they want they know they wanted to
do an operation yeah ready to do it
right
on ready to do it when I was 17 okay I'm
not sure when this was 16 or I
understand and
I remember going into the and asking
for and saying to the that I'm going to
go
in to the hospital I
forgot the
day I think it was
high but it
was so yeah so the said to me PES so
close to
PES so I said never look waited so many
years to make to left
face picked up his hand said
ah
up why should you push off other
is but in the beginning he seemed to
imply like it's close too close it's too
close to PES it's close to PES imply
oh oh oh one second and then when I said
to I could push it off after the only
reason I forgot that the only reason why
we were doing it then was that's where
our insurance kicked in on March 1st or
whatever the day was that's when our
insurance so that so close to PES right
so the re said close to P so so who said
so and then he said it's up his no I I
said I can have an after P yeah so re
said ah why push it off to to
S whatever and you had and you had the
operation and was successful and I came
out
on from the hospital uhuh I went in
on and uh a three three three weeks
something like that right and and and uh
it was successful it was successful and
actually I believe I was one of the
first 100 patients in Canada or in
Montreal to have this operation now
it's of them are done done right then it
was what is it called that what aortic
no what I had was a
seum septic
no se I remember
you said before
a I always knew that second
SE okay okay it had a very clear name
wasn't SE atrial sepal atrial defect
sepal atrial
defect okay so that was another that you
had with the re
okay right that one well I was 17 years
old then
right and the other K I don't remember
too much in other words they were like a
regular K went into the Reb give Reb
paper read it never responded
and but the first time you almost for
your yeah now you didn't go to a faban
before right but since then I went twice
a year I
went and I went
s well you said you went once with your
your y the group the group went on uhhuh
but we had a bus we had two
buses you went
already the group went in for and you
you were
part yeah and when did you have
had groups and then they had uh for
individuals yeah let's let's say I don't
remember let's say
on right they had individual right right
okay and and and uh that's when I went
in for my right and what about what was
simp stud no then afterwards I started
going twice a year oh yeah but not for
not that you
had you mean the so
only went twice a twice a
year I went I think the shabas when the
war 67 War
started and I was oh we had we had a
girl yeah I was the B that wanted to go
that that
shabas I remember coming back from and
from foran it was marh that there
wouldn't be a war to me that's this m i
remember coming back on a train and I
met mayor
flin and he said war just broke out this
was Sunday night or early mon Monday
morning all right I'm just saying this
okay now when you
Yesa u i loved my
ears you you you became a big
mmid I'm saying you were Around the
Clock you enjoyed it I I loved my years
Ina and I went to camp this very this
very important Montreal Montreal yeah my
I think it was R green Hood not sure
green Hood was a
laer green Hood I don't know who he is
green
h he had he never had children I think
he was
def
okay and ask me what I'm doing this
yeah I was Ed to go to a non from Camp
that was for special people that
couldn't afford camps there was two
camps Camp Wood neighbors and camp
neighor both work by the Federation and
both work for the same purpose right and
I was registered C with
as a camper or counsel a camp a camp
okay I was probably 11 years old
yeah asked what I'm doing this summer I
knew
that I just knew
that I said I don't know yet I start
crying to my mother for hours I'm not
going through I don't care what you say
I'm not
then coule came into my
life came and said to me you know
there's a
campership
at but your mother wouldn't have to
pay I said she go tell my mother that so
he went told she said
sure and she didn't have to pay years
later
collected money to send me to Camp how
would you say a few years later I found
that out a few years later and I well I
was in the camp there I
was two years of
camper 5 years a counselor of the sixy
olds one year a counselor of the 4y olds
the pioneers and one year I was
assistant
much and then the next year I moved to
California and they called me they said
wanted me to come back as a head
counselor I told you know
now and because of that I opened my own
Camp the next year day but a day camp
and it's still running so you're the one
that opened up the day
camp a very successful
at this point 50 something years later
my son runs it my son and
daughter I want to go back for a second
what were you more interested in Yesa
with in
learning
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nigus what was your like what did you
feel in Affinity to should I tell you
the truth yes I was not a big
learner I was not a big learner I just I
love the Yesa atmosphere and I I learned
you know like every B I wasn't a very
big
learner and but I
Lova and and I remember at 18 years old
deciding that I have to learn
12 my
heart learned it and then I remember
coming in there standing around and said
just finish the 12
TR well to do that you need to be you
have to have
you patience right right I mean I loved
the Yesa I loved the Yesa life and I L
part to say I was a
bigw to say
I I heard once and tell me if it's true
I heard that you your attendance was
excellent that you kept what they
call that you came on time to all
classes is that
true true so then obviously you were a
good
St give me to say you weren't from the
the Big
M year that I remember in Montreal let
me tell you who
wasel this was that was a year
that must be my B when I became 18 there
was a year that you always used to talk
every night in kiss for every
night who would P who they
for either way was for I just remember
coming because I slept at home I oh you
never slept in dormatory I slept in
dormatory when we moved to New York
right what
moved to York when I was 17 Oh I
thought I thought your mother moved to
farak 20 years ago no I'm have
a show uh oh when you were 17 she moved
to so that time you were in the
dormatory in the dormatory uhhuh and who
is in charge of the
dormatory who's my wife is d
oh okay she was married to
right
right so so do you remember let's say
the the the the Satan brothers did you
have any connection with them yes of
course and it was for Vance and I just
remember we used to go to their house
and next empty out the kitchen that I
remember and fing took you know
I'll tell you the thing I remember most
about
the you came out of
Russia I
canet cut across for
who you
mean oh he came no he came to visit M oh
oh from Brooklyn and and the reab told
him when you're going to be there you
should you should
foring
then they should they should get the
lesson right bashet bki
that's so in two and a half days he for
five
times one that I remember was
marit's
basement and he was
foring then about 2 in the morning
somebody came
in so hepped very L very L he was still
under the the Communist c yeah know we
told him don't worry he's all right one
of us okay but then this how he finished
the
forra said when we were in Russia and we
were forbrain no matter till what time
the forbing lasted the next day we knew
we had to be my Sor in
time this about 3:00 in the
morning tomorrow morning s starts I
don't remember it was 7 or 7:30 I think
it was
7:30 I'll be there and I expect you be
there and who was there only you no no
everyone was there the place just pack
but I know what I did we all went on
Satan's truck a bunch of guys and he
took us to yiva and I was afraid of over
sleeping I didn't know about the other
guys so I went to sleep in the b in the
show where they got ah knew they would
come and get angry and make
up I was with a few guys we we lay down
on those benches and W us up and and we
were in time
uhuh um and and he was
there I mean that's something I'll never
find what about R Maro you remember him
yeah R Mar I remember him just
as he me
looking I
think he he always came with a bunch of
little girls to sure and they he always
they were always eating
bananas another is healthy stuff
right later I had married his
niece right and he was very sick in
last I very sick me
no communication for good few years I
remember how many years
whatever but the girls those little
girls grew up and I knew
that was there
um over the years I heard there was like
a some kind
of Unwritten Schism between
theal and the Russ did you detect any of
that truth told no I did not detect any
of that although I used to hear once in
a while talk about R and and
po right that wasn't part of your wasn't
part of my life right right right okay
also remember goad go I also remember he
had one of the teachers in Shiva was
silver yeah he he was a a
and he was the I mean really respect his
savior I remember like giving him my
phone to check was probably 16 17 and he
says you should have
fil zilberman oh zilberman right zilin
someone else right Z his brother is the
one that WR the
silver oh I didn't know that and his
brother or his Rel anyway and I heard
that he he didn't use it because where
it
says
by that there six six children born at
once his relative FR moving that
his an
exaggeration really this this what I
heard he didn't it was a brother sister
just a relative you don't know one okay
second