Priority to give charity to Tzaddikim & especially those in Eretz Yisrael -Igeres HaKodesh 9b- RCD

so the day we're learning I'm sorry the fourth section of on page KU it's chapter nine yesterday the AL taught us the importance of not living in a dream in the dream being the sense of doing things including giving and doing wonderful things for your own family yourself and your family but there's a selfish motive there it's self family self kids are F self wife is f self and the AL who seemingly dropped their donations either completely or lessen their donations to who made Aliah 1788 at with 300 I believe and um there was a uh in the beginning people were excited in Russia and others were excited to support them and as time went on which is the nature you know it dwindles so the AL some of these letters clearly is addressing this issue in various ways this a chapter we didn't get to it yet get KES 14 will be the same idea with but with a different one second with a different I nuance give me a few minutes please and um over here this is the background of this letter you see each of these letters remember what I told you yesterday they're not in chronological order they're from different years and um the there's a background to each of them sometimes we know we know what that background is sometimes we don't or maybe maybe there's someone that knows but I don't know and I try to find out as much as I can and I don't have a certain safe that I that RAB sh munen the F who lived in and he was a a great historian at the Israeli you know not the museum the the library there in jush and uh he wrote a he wrote a sa for like a bibliography kind of a sa for an and he brings a lot of sources and um I don't have that but over there maybe he maybe he does give a source for each of the letters you know the background who who is a who is a targeting you know it's not just another letter about s cuz you can easily just say and most people who learn to get ases don't know the background don't take the time to discern it's about s about s ask any kabik any kabik in any of your communi 99.9 will tell you born and breed laage is about Seda well that's that's the way until I started to prepare the that's the way I would I would answer cuz we didn't have like I said said lectures by and teachers on because like I said yesterday if you in the in the world of Yeshiva if you learn and in the Yesa you're considered a loser you're considered a lightweight you got to learn you know we spoke about that yesterday so so the the background in history and and and and not just the background history but what Al wants and and and and what he uses the wording that he uses in the different is also fascinating in other words in this letter he he he he basically says you're asleep you're at slumber wake up and he and and he uses like some very sharp language in another letter in let's say 14 he doesn't use that language right so a study would be why does he use certain language in certain of his letters and why does he use other language in other of his letters and that that's a study to be studied if anyone cares to study it you know if if you if you if you consider if you hold if you say that the words of the AL are precise as we say because it took him six weeks to decide whether to write a v chapter 41 and right but I'm right so the second V I think one of those VES he told his brother he pondered six weeks whether he should write that V now if that is not precise I don't know what is precise and that's the same for so the the taught the and the taught their students including my teachers taught me how precise every letter in Tanya is and hence by for it's called the of the written of which you know not everyone agrees with of course but K has that tradition that belief and it's because of this story and similar ones that the AL was m and he was particular about every letter in the Tanya now if you if you if you if you believe that and you and you understand it and you buy into that then when it comes to getes which are his holy letters okay that he himself wrote These not these were not written by his sons they were collected by his sons and organized in the in the way that we have them right the 32 letters but they're his words every word here is his words so we believe that every word is precise so then you ask a question why and what is why and what is the meaning of certain Sedaka letters he uses this language and certain ones he doesn't and that's a study and God willing one day someone will uh think like I'm thinking and will have the time and take the research and and write um a thesis on it you know so so before I get to your questiona just to conclude the thought here says that the living in in in in in a slumber state is when you when you justify not giving the to the people in especially theim because you need it for your family that's a very hard pill to swallow because we all know we have kids and grandkids and family and we have which we're going to talk about soon the poor people in your son come in your city come first if someone comes with s from America and says I have a yes he comes to you inally you you if if indeed the money that you have allocated for Seda you're giving to your local institution you're allowed to and you don't give him if if you don't have because right today is going to say AES that's going to that I haven't found anywhere I've asked a few people it's what what of a Kind novelty and that is that what comes even before family are sadik and especially sikim in it gives no Source that's what he writes and that's his approach that's why you guys on Russia you have to fund first halar could you imagine because theic issue of says has an exception the within Russia and particularly sadim within but that is not the E of the letter the E of the letter is a the question that he want wants us to think about is why am I giving s what is the mindset when you give s that that is the issue and and we all know and especially if you'll take a little time and think about it both ourselves and we see in the community many times I don't want to say much of the time but many times the SED giving is not what it says here in thises the Seda giving is has a condition has an attachment has a um a self orientation associated with it so not necessarily you know I need my picture in the paper or plas it all over the internet that I gave this amount of s and I gave this Yesa okay you're not that course you're a little more refined but just recently I'm writing something and someone says to me you know I said you know I might want to put you list you in in in in in the credits and things like that and and the person who initially said you know it's not necessary said I would appreciate it and I understand it cuz I'm that way too cuz I'm a human I'm not a b yet Hali we say Hal B right Hali one day but but the truth is that's Eagle that's eagle and and and this is a this issue is something that's only between you and Hashem not between you and your wife not between you and your Rabbi not between you and your re it's between you and Hashem you know we know whether we're doing it for the legitimate reason of pure for God or there's a little a little is a little self-interest there and that's the it doesn't make us a bad person doesn't make a person a bad person but it means that you need an upgrade so someone says oh you DAV and you learn you go to sh but you know yourself like I know I do these things and it's good but come on I I know that I could really you know be more alteristic and more pure and and more genuine Etc and this is what the AL is getting at in this chapter so this is his advice to those that diminished their giving to the sikim in rem and and and and the his answer is you're telling me that you don't have cuz you need for your own family well guess what they come before your own family now that's why this is a very very uh big statement you know and ask yourself a question you've been around Reb you've been aroundon you've been around G you know did you ever hear that from anyone I never have so D here has a a heavy message but it's a true message it's a true message because if you're one second y because if you're doing it LMA it doesn't make a difference it doesn't make a difference yes Hally you need to feed your wife and kids if not you're a you're a you're a russer we know that but the question is why are you feeding your wife and kids is it because you have a vested interest or because God wants you to feed your wife and kids so it's also goes back to the and this is the this is the by the way the connection to which the connection to the of it's all about if it's about then even when you when you when you when you support your wife and children and your community it's not about my own you know self decision to do that it's about that wants that let me take's question then your cuz he's waiting first go ahead go ahead no you're muted Misha you're muted I can't hear you thank you I'm sorry this this part about that I have this version the Hebrew English yes so in the English in the English it says what you just mentioned about the priority about also what takes precedence and then sadik you know taking precedence but I see that in the in the in the Hebrew the actual I can't find oh Nowa is a great student you're a real student I'm proud of you I'm serious I'm not saying that you know you're exactly right and I already told iser to put his finger on page 382 in the where where you're G to see that there had originally written it but it was taken out so you're very good so just hold on hold on okay that was your question that's it that was the first thing the second thing I just want to say is everybody should be aware that if you go to a place called Pantry Packers that's the colloquial name of it in t right near the same area where the the it Yesa is that is the main uh Hub in for kabad for the food distribution center and if you go there they have in like a visitor center a whole display cases full of letters and uh per historical documents and so forth all about K going back to Al Al thank you I I I I app I appreciate to think I wouldn't know that I I know about Pantry Packers that they do but what you told me now you know so so in a future time I would like to see that uh y got lost when he comes back we'll get to him let's learn inside now page kuid a a is it clear a you're too quiet I never hear from you is it clear yes it's clear thank you no questions no no no you could do it you could do what the alter says here you think you could do it this this this something you have to really internalize that's right that's right okay let's continue so now we're on page um right so now I want you to turn so we learned yesterday at the beginning of that don't be like the the that they do it for themselves right and don't and and they do it for only to support their their wives and their children Etc right so now if you can you have a it's is is it page 382 in in the Tanya that you and MOA have as well iser you're you're on mute yeah at the top page it says 382 okay at the bottom of the page is Page 691 okay so and those that have the large T I think that M and is have it's yeah it's um it's that's the we call that the whatever so so it's 681 page 681 691 at the bottom 691 okay the top number is 382 okay what Tanya do you okay what type of Tanya do you have AB what are you using lessons in Tanya oh the same one excellent okay excellent so look look at the last entry on the on the right hand column it says you all have that I'm okay right so it right the the next with the words the and it and n it says yeah so now look at the last column the left hand column on top it says in other words this is the ti this is to cor that really this is the word should it should be it should say quote not which is the idolators but it should say like all we spoke about that that the reason why it was changed because of the the censor you know the the censorship in Russia they would make trouble this answers your question M this was omitted but it should it originally had said except what sikim within the generation they have priority to your own children stop then he says and now and especially not just anywhere but within have priority in giving over the in outside of one second except if that there wasn't anyone of left in so that's that's another interesting if I understand the correctly twist so he says like this the first goes the sikim I'm sorry not the first there sikim anywhere in the world they take precedence over family the next thing is the then the next thing he says is that's only if there there aren't any any such s how do you understand this go ahead he's saying he's saying that if you don't have like bigger then it's not talking it's only talking about if there bigger I guess I guess that that was probably at one point when there was more well then is is writing it during his time I I don't know so one second so the last line you're saying you need that the AL is saying that if they are in it's bigger sikim they have a priority over the is that what you're saying yeah because you you just said you said right you mentioned the right it depends on where your city is so you you take care of the in your city why would this be any different no no that's the no here is he doesn't say it with all the words that even though the poor people mean the that I understand what he's saying is there are no like there are in Isel I think so I think that's theot I think what you said the question I had is in what sense here is he using the term sadik is he using the term sadik like we learned in no no no no no he's talking so he's using it in a more conventional yeah yeah he means I would say he he means and and that's what he but the way that I understand what he's saying here is that there are no in like there are inel okay I'm going to GED shabas I want I talk to someone about this but anyway mha this this is the reason why the text now so you probably ask you're asking probably so why is it not the text why is it have to be the right again I don't have the but I could say two things one is either the one who brought to Tanya to print and he was literate he didn't like what it said and and and he had a question which is y's question what's your source and the first thing I asked when I saw this in preparing the shear is what is the mocker and I spoke to a few people and then I heard on a tape someone asked him this a big and he says I don't know and this is a I'm still I still really want to so someone said there's a letter from that maybe addresses it by the way this this piece that we just learned is the source in for sure and maybe even other kic movements for giving money to a called mid you've heard about mid supporting right the reban his household inab I believe that this is a mocker this is a source for it the whole idea of mimid the whole idea of of my I mean my mothers starts from the b m they were my mothers you know but we're talking about inic terms inab terms mid I don't know do you have a concept of mid in other yes sir have you ever heard of yes yes yes yes yes I've been doing my mothers for years and years okay okay M yes I just want to say that I don't know what it's what it's just in the only Hebrew version but in the English we have you know these footnotes at the bottom okay after this this in English when it makes when it talks to us about theim of Eric take precedence over there's a note that says says see see the and then and then says it cites the cites the the uh the Simon and then it says see also I know P CH okay well um I don't think that that I mean I haven't looked it and I'm glad you bring to my attention so I have that in the shoe I'll take out that Tanya and try to look up whatever I could find on that but I I'm not convinced that that says the exact thing in other words in other words I'm not convinced that those sources will say exactly what the yeah go ahead what are you saying and then there's another note immediately after that says while the previous seems to be a general statement these latter words appear to refer specifically to theic leaders and in parentheses it says including the author's master and colleague right who was sended Holy Land accompanied by their families and numerous followers exactly right right so you know in other words I think if you look into those sources it doesn't address sikim and you understand is is I think is making a big stretch okay and he has a right he's aad he's a you know but it has to be looked at up so it's good that we're having this discussion very good that you brought that to attention but M that's the answer oh no so so I wanted to say two things one thing is it could be that the person bringing the Tanya who went over the galys as he's about to print them right he saw this and he said this is wrong I'm not printing it by the way such things did happen during the last 400 years of printing and he didn't put it in it could be now if it was someone who was a he wouldn't do that a of the AL would definitely not do that but it could be that it was done with the intent that people won't understand it and will relate to it in a bad way and maybe who knows maybe he got permission from the AL to omit it and keep put it in the back there are certain things that said over the years that the himself bring in public and then when it came to put in a writing he said do not print it m I'm not just talking about a story with a you know Freud and in 1962 where he spoke about it then he said it shouldn't be printed you know or or I'm talking about even in in one second and and mentioned over there that with the Mir that even though they spit inu's faceu you know so cannot include them because they spit in his face and the explained it and when it came to printing theb wrote because they prepared what the Reb said they were going to print it theb said put an X over it don't you dare print it he didn't want to have him printed to say thatu couldn't include the Jews who spit at him so you know I don't know it's an unknown yes is what do you want to say I I saw in many years ago in SOS in English that they write in the introduction there that they did not translate all of the the that are printed inish because people had to be familiar with the concepts in the original I think it was a nice way of saying certain things are for certain audiences that's right that's right that's right right and as a writer I could tell you that's very true you know you have to you know there are families and things and you know you have to be very careful what you say what you don't say certain times I write certain things I go back and I just take it out I said God forbid that a family member in a 100 years will read what I wrote and I I just intimated something negative you know why why am I causing pain you know why why you know okay but on the other hand I want to be truthful well this is not the place to be Truth for you know see it's it's a it's a sensitive issue so this issue over here is a sensitive issue but but we have the did say this and the overall message of this section in Tanya supports that because again like mha said from the note that he read this is written to in Russia to support and in ER Ro the time has come I think even though we didn't learn any much inside but it was a very important discussion and there's no we're not rushing so we'll M Shem continue tomorrow have a good day everyone great thank you for getting involved in the discussion Z byebye byebye take care