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Practical Chasidus w Rabbi Chaim Dalfin - Maamar Vata 1934 #4
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Early Philosophers belief vs. Rambam's belief of G-d
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okay so now I want to go back just to
because we want a little fast towards
the end so I want to go back to page 159
and explain a little bit maybe even we
learn a little bit inside because we
kind of rushed we're at a point here
where we have finished with the opening
statement quoting daniil in his prayer
of goes and which we say Monday and
Thursday starting next week and I really
want young I'm serious take out a sitter
at some time please become familiar with
what you're saying
I'm Monday and Thursdays and you'll see
a lot of these took him there and an
underline them and focus on them and
understand that this is not you know
we're learning about by trying to choose
my marring discourses that are relevant
to our daily life you know when I choose
our mind my try as much as possible so
it says here the Neil says listen us and
see our desolation see the desolation of
the base our meekness of yerushalayim
see see her bait hooray a so when you
say when you when you talk to a Shem and
you ask a shame to see it begs
interpretation does God see does God
have eyes does God have ears and I'm
sure everyone has thought about this as
you whether you look if she was a boy a
teenager an older adult a younger adult
you know what does me God seasoned years
and the Rumba in the mo Rehanna for him
and the guide for the perplexed which is
not an easy safer it's a safer you know
the same in yeshiva I don't know if the
only you heard this when you were in
your Shiva but be careful in learning
the motohama who him in the Damona you
could call it with one
the more read the guide you know why
because you might go to sleep with a
solid question with no answer and wake
up on Appa chorus a heretic because you
don't have an answer you know what yeah
okay but what's the idea that the
questions are straightforward where is
God who is God how is God the questions
are easy it's like chewing gum back
together you put these add up that you
can chew and it's no big deal but to
come out with a clear answer that makes
sense
that is much more difficult so if you go
to sleep with a question you might wake
up there's no answer but on the contrary
a non-believer hospital so therefore
before you go to sleep talk the motoharu
him learn that during the game day where
you have time to try to give yourself an
answer the the the the saying is is is a
an eye-opener to understand verses in
the Torah and tanaga that talk about
God's omnipotence God's existence God's
reality this is what the miner is
getting into now so we're really getting
into a very philosophical issue but it's
very relevant to our Emunah and daily
behavior and that ever says to
understand this we have to look at the
the idea of see because daniel says
habayit order a look and see so he says
what does that mean and therefore he
brings you ready Moshe - mad Russian
which contradict each other seemingly
can't contradict each other
one Methodist says
godsey's with one eye quoting the verse
another man and then it says God sees
with two eyes which is it how many eyes
as God has how many eyes shouldn't have
and with how many I see looking boroughs
so the magic says I have an answer for
you when the Jews when we do it a sham
once he's looking at us with two eyes
were all tsadikim or o holy and
righteous real holy rollers that slow
Makarova food saying holy holy holy
but when we goof up and we take it
hiatus and we take a little dope and we
smoke up then we haka SHINee can we play
around you know just having a little fun
Hashem says hey guy there's time for fun
and just kind of fun and you know okay
to take a legalized marijuana maybe to
get away with it but let's look at other
things in your life it ain't that great
ah what i io knee look at you with one
eye because you ain't cutting it
you ain't doing it that's the way the
measure is resolves if the contradiction
in verses between one and two eyes then
that that's one measure shishi gashira
then he brings a medicine in in the
brain racist braces which speaks about a
from a venal and it says a mush an alien
a of the eye of the eye one eye of a
Sammis to his fearful one zav remove
either wait a minute
he just told me that when the verse uses
one eye or the first to a time when one
is not doing the will of God how can a
form of people's not to be the will of
God when the Torah itself the tone of
not matter says I'll kill you die T now
I know kid it came out that you're a
god-fearing person that was after test
number 10 because motion until test
number 10 where he was willing to bring
his only son heats up as a as a carbon
until until then every other test could
have been interpreted as self
aggrandizement jumping into a fire
taking your own life is an act of
courage and self-sacrifice but it could
be explained
you know how the kamikazes they gave
their life for the day they prepared for
their country will have them those
terrible terrorists and moms angry all
around us there it's our play - whether
it be the Virgin's that they dream about
or the money that the family is going to
get or their hatred there's a reason for
their craziness for their terror in
other words it doesn't prove that
they're doing it for God they're doing
it for themselves and the Medra says and
the Torah says only test number 10 when
Hashem says bring your son as a carbon
that one cannot be explained as I'm
doing it for myself because no normal
person would bring their son as a
sacrifice
no it's an oxymoron in Hebrew austere I
mean a obey it's a contradiction
yourself you could do both logically but
with someone else and your son and your
only son as Bigfoot as in people lives
look now I know a toe
that's why it says after now I know
Rajee says so the rebus says if we're
talking about an individual like like
this Avram the holy of the Holies and
nevertheless the medicines pain Hashem
the eye
Euler not eyes tell you they ah've is
upon the fearful one referring to a from
so how can you tell me that when the
when the Torah old Otonashi uses the
word I in the singular it's referring to
a situation where we're going up that's
that's what the river brought here as a
contradictory to the earlier is what I
said clear understand if not that's
right that's right and it's even a third
one it's even a third one which I was
quoting Hebei Torah a if you look
further in your sitter you'll see I
think it's the beginning of a paragraph
with a large word how bait or a do you
see that or not hold on bet a bet look
at that look right so so he's jumping
between you know three and maybe even
another one yeah but the whole section
the whole section is is it's the trailer
of the Neal so right okay
stand why you will get in computer did
you follow did you follow that you
follow what I just explained about the
mid Russian and what the issue is over
here well what are you gonna confuse
Aki's now cocktail is your ear you know
Benjy emotional look bender here and how
babies look it's three different words
and in the first the first chapter or
two we spoke about the were the first
chapter we spoke about the words that
actor why does he use the words that uh
and now and heartache he didn't really
he just mentioned it but he didn't
really focus on it and now he's focusing
on the word hih bait see and look and he
wants to understand what the scene is
once mostly motion once he introduced
the idea of how bait
see he asks the question what does it
mean God sees and now is going to in
turn so he brings these contradictory
met Russian which is going to lead us
into the Rambam explanation of what it
means that God sees and from here and
from here hi hello and from here and
from here is going to go and explain the
overall issue of God seemed understand
so so again because the deal I'm glad
you bring you this up Moshe this isn't
just for you this is for everyone to
understand the systematic continuation
over here in the minor it starts off
with the tail of the meal and he looks
like you say he looks closely at the
wording and then he finds the
middle of the trailer the lil says God
look hih bet Tibet and Hillel asked the
other day the difference could we're not
getting into Hobart or a/c look what
does it mean God sees so from there he
brings a mad rush 'ok source for seeing
and he says well sometimes it says god
sees with one eye and sometimes with two
eyes what's the difference and he says
how can it be that you know because i've
rama v nose and from so I just was
explaining at length why I've run was so
special and therefore if if according to
the other Madras it God will it set us
mcs with two eyes it means it's perfect
that's good so it should have said about
a from God sees him with two eyes not
with one eye so therefore he says to
answer this and to understand this we
need to clarify what it means that God
sees where does he bring this
clarification from he brings it from the
Rambam aura and devotion let us now go
into the text page 159 and learn and
actually read what the Rambam says okay
oh beta rambha it's four lines from the
bottom towards the the fourth words from
the end of the path of the line obey
Rambam the mariner who sends kala give
up 82 tests the Rambam comes along and
he explains not in his book of laws
which is known as yada kazakh but in the
guide Mora means a guy navoo him for
those that are doubting or an English a
guide for the perplexed in Hebrew we
usually called them Tamura if you
suddenly hear someone say what does the
mother say what is the word lower
referred to the guide for the perplexed
so beta Rama that I'm gonna explains
there she
snowman I feel so firmly say there were
early philosophers FINA Sufian hurry
shown him say hey my men and women si si
Matias butterface Allah they believed in
the existence of a tree blessed and
virtuous creator
they believed the God in simple English
ella ella Shalem him they say que haya
dear salam ila that the knowledge of
heaven God's knowledge he wrapped you
dear citrusville a Moses it's only an
intellectual knowledge and not an actual
movies comes from the word burrows new
Haas tangible it's not tangible its
intellectual so in other words Hillel
when we say a seven knows what we mean
that Shem knows God knows God knows
intellectually but not that God's
intellectual knowledge has any kind of
reality to it here that that was the
understanding yoni of the early of some
early philosophers Visio and this is how
they explained the verse viagra and they
said lo único the lay oven he God does
not see that bloody yoga and he doesn't
understand yes I thought I don't know I
I was searching I don't know at this
point if someone has a crooked that's
here handy please look it up but it
could be Hillel it could be that it's in
the craftsmen of Monday to Thursday
night something rings a bell but I will
continue and if I find that I'll let you
know and if you find that please let me
know ok so he says but they they they
use that they use that verse to explain
and justify
their understanding of us said that when
it says lo ye Raqqah below you of
emotion God does not see and God does
not hear it means that practically
doesn't even see intellectually does but
the Mojave in a tangible way low Erica
and they didn't find that here this they
didn't find that as a contradiction to
belief in God because their
understanding of God is an intellect the
God is an intellectual experience so I
believe fully there is a creator but if
you asked me what is the creator all
about an intellectual experience K who
is but if and this is all from the Rumba
next page 169 K who is but if not even
is God
Mamie sue K have Bemis gay have Hussein
and they argued motion that God is way
above the notions of tangibility because
hip nail development and Ibrahim
associated with human talent and
experience in other words they looked
and they said it's a downgrade it's an
embarrassment for Hashem to have to do
with him with tangibility that's our
Chevy
are you out of your mind that's God we
need a god to deal with taking the
garbage out in the morning like I just
did a few minutes ago
and making sure everything was dumped
out of the dumpster come on come on
what's with you he God is for the
intelligence that was their argument
falseta who hit her first cause she says
the rhumba this was the response and and
kind of the mustardy the hocus-pocus our
custody
friend to lover that man who he calls
the Rambam calls the fussing cavernosa
l dubba that Malala mashallah the RAM
bombs intent with the words Kabbalah
Takako psycho Sid if Apophis accosted
the proof of the fossil first adopted by
her chorus my physically using
recognition of intellectual prowess be
hombre by saying Moshe hears the words
have no time
owes them the the ozan the bending of
the year and yo sir I am the creation of
the I the rambam quotes those verses on
the via her in young man notices say
this memories and he explains those
ideas in an a tangible way and how it
doesn't contradict Hashem and he
explains what's the ROM bombs
explanation the whole pile Kleem in a
tailored take someone who makes clear
vessel mimicking him amongst other
vessels in a Malaysia oil her NASA ru de
ecclesia whoo-hoo masu 8/8 of miss races
are clearly if the poem the creator of
the vessel would not put his style C or
into the vessel la joya colossus of the
ke ugly he would not be able to make the
vessel if you know this isn't pushing up
Bucky and having a machine makes
something when you are the poet and
you're making a piece of art and you're
forming a cleanly your heart and soul is
in that creation is this clear so far
okay okay if it's not the data table if
it's not
creation this was CUDA about about the
kaylee and we put inside it we learned a
different liner about this about
allocate out this concept okay thank you
and any cool but I'm glad that you know
but okay
the huh muscle but then he I believe
this the first time and all of our
learning we're actually learning a piece
of boring you lose him and it's home and
it's a citation from the motor but if I
see this yes I said this you're right
there's a lot of lot of it talk about
the scaly idea but look at the way the
Rambam you know the ROM bombs wording of
style and the motor is very
philosophical that's why the language
here is very different than the normal
language of our cities it's a
philosophical style it goes along with
the early writings at the time of that
period if you look at others
contemporaries furring who wrote there
are sog and and others you know it's a
certain very philosophical language and
you could say that the rom bombs
language countered the Philip the
philosophers of the time so if you want
to talk to someone who's into philosophy
you gotta talk the language if you gotta
talk down what the philosophers
it means nothing to them so that's why
in the guide in the motor he uses a very
different language than in the yogic
azúcar in the anyway maja muscle buzz
buoy and the muscle in her nap Oklahoma
saya ingin uh treated but mostly if the
designer of a needle would not bring the
image of a needle to his mind and to his
heart who maybe nasal attack Lisa and he
would not have a good understanding
Hillier of what a needle Ultima should
look like and be and its purpose well
the needle would never be the needle
that comes to be I said to slow myself
Rita that would complete the act of
sewing
saddest lamest Aria in its most complete
way but tassels are famous in the
ultimate best way borough you have a
needle says that the Rambam that if the
creator of the needle would not
understand the way a needle should be
and the purpose of a needle and the
ultimate excellence that a needle
provides for sewing and he would not
insert all of that in the needle the
needle will never be a proper needle in
other words the creator of the piece
being a needle be a copy at a piece of
art needs to understand I could tell you
as a writer pie in the sky relates very
much to this but before I write before I
write I need to have an understanding of
the entire idea you know many times when
I interview I was sitting yesterday and
doing interviews with someone and Sydney
Australia with someone here someone
there about a subject matter that I want
to write about and I don't begin writing
until I can hear and formulate an idea
in an opinion and I get that from
talking to people and researching and
hopefully coming to a conclusion that
I'm comfortable with
could be someone else's I'm comfortable
with or not happy with or disagrees and
that's fine every writer every artist
every creator is entitled to their
understanding but you need to have a
grasp of the entire idea and sometimes
people say oh but don't don't mention
this and don't say this and you know and
I say to them don't don't be worried
what you're telling me goes into this
ear and goes into this storage place
and it's for me to have an understanding
what I put forth in writing is of course
a whole different experience because
it's for the reader and the certain
things a reader can handle should handle
should know about and other things we
follow the gomorrah's advice Maga
Latifah you reveal a kapha all Mikasa
- hayun and at the same time you cover
up to 12 you know a good writer a good
piece of writing follows that script
that within the wrong line of
information there are two lines that are
invisible that's good writing that's a
good piece of literature you don't have
to say everything you have to say enough
to make the reader understand there's
more here you know and I've had it many
times when people call me they say so
what did you mean what tell me the
secret both like what are you hiding you
know so what why my sails because
they're amber hello could you turn down
your mute because I think it's
disturbing a little bit others the the
the Rambam saying that the the sayara
the artist the the Baha Moffitt the the
one who creates the needle or the
creator of the Kaley he puts himself
into it behind him Chavez a look at the
wording further the minstrel tomorrow
yuvan l'm a low-key moose politician who
are share a shame is butter for your
salad now I want to point out that the
Rambam uses hear the words Hillel
everyone look at the words misko riche
on these are classical words of Jewish
philosophy musk Alicia what is Muslim
reasoning so we translate less first
thought the first idea
so the Moose coalition who the first
idea that comes to mind about God is
about a sham
I shall ascend his Butterfield song that
the holy blessed of Shem showing the
tackler famous is complete throughout
beliefs from caesarian without any
deficiency the in Cain had a headed Musa
they have who say Dabney Odom who begins
the sudden believers committee the the
Rambam says if God is complete if God is
Muslim the fact that the Philosopher's
say that God is not tangible is a
deficiency in God's true slain would how
can you be complete and say that he's
here but not there he's of an
intellectual experience but not a
Moose's tangible experience that album
says that's a contradiction to God to
the slaves of God the closing in Masan
in my man and that ever stand the Rambam
says this is I'm not well so see I think
this is not their ever saying this idea
of the of the Rambam corresponds with
this saying
Aveda secreta sh a serf whose flame is
lit sorry you know there's a safer call
that way the Sakai dish and in the safer
I've way the sukhoi dish which was you
know written either during the RAM bombs
trying for after but it goes back and
that way the goddess writes that Hashem
is a serf God is infinite slay moot
shall a complete belief system without
deficiency ok saying she look look at
the next words these are beautiful words
brought if I see this yelling in many
times okay shame
look cloth mobility bag rule and just as
a sim has co-op power the bill T
boggsville
in the infinite costea slow cause
befooled so does god have power in the
end in the finite the employment and if
you're going to argue she yes will cause
the beauty bug would that God only has
power in the infinite the anal cosmic vu
and God does not have power in the end
of limit and finite says they're both
Asarco - look at the words after maja
said slim you say you are deducting from
ashens completeness you cannot argue
that God is an existence and a reality
that relates only to the infinite but
not the finite and that's what the early
philosophers were arguing they argued
that if you say Hashem identifies with
fight finite and amou cease and
tangibility it's a downgrade to a sham
it's an embarrassment to God it's it's
it's not that says their album I
disagree with you any quotes that voices
are craters and that way this better
says in it's a powerful words Hillier
did you ever see this language in any
other book of considered selling them or
anything else I don't hear you you got
to put on your mute for me to hear you
right okay but if in a bag in a box I
see this if a bad fasteners
this is this is mentioned quite often
into my mahram of the seven rebellion
this quote from void is a British
Burroughs birth
did you are you familiar with the same
bar of Gordie Howe I didn't hear your
answer
you'll remember the quote to say yes
will cause the eternal field my fish yes
yes will close the builted Volvo cast
yes close big village no no no no no
there is a safer quote avoid the circle
- I forget now who is written by but
it's a thousand years old I think you
know ok so let me just continue and
finish they serve and this is also part
of the I vote the summers my Kazan
turned it off this hill oh you're my
answer who slay Musa Dagh Philo he says
there ain't some God being infinite is a
slain would the whole of the Fela it's a
completion of everything not let explain
us in other words you could look at
infinity as a issue for itself we are
limited we're finite and if we say us
endless infinite that's enough and
that's the way most said the early
philosophers understood God God is
infinite and if we adapt God being
infinite we understand he's not like us
and that's why you hear guys that's what
they argued Hashem is only interested in
the intellectual kind of experience
because their war of is infinity can be
experienced and understood but in taking
out the garbage I don't see God's
infinity so they said let us take
another garbage have to deal with death
it doesn't that was their argued close
along that way this equation says wrong
wrong because your understanding of
infinity and God being infinite
is the limitation you have put God in a
box in a definition of infinity and
that's not Hashem Hashem is slay musa
delaila
the cultivate perfection and it is the
ultimate perfection
guess what the garbage is also important
finite is important the world we live in
that was created by a sham and desired
by a Shem is of most importance so if
you strip Hashem from us real interest
in the finite world you don't have slay
most you don't have perfection let me
continue over there he have done it her
medical of a cylinder a philosopher and
this is how David MLF showed the
philosophers that their understanding of
God is wrong so in simple in simple
words the philosophers the philosophers
argued God is of a spiritual nature and
if God is of a spiritual nature here for
what follows is Intuit
think electoral realm is a depth is a
depth for for spirituality but the
physical finite realm is not is a
contradiction it's not God that was
their argument cause I won't double that
mellow and he said God has an ear that
he bends and he listens he has an
emotion he has an eye that sees what
does that mean that means that even the
physical symbolism of an eye and
has a place in the Godhead
that's what other development of course
SM of the of course and has no ears and
has no eyes and has no pockets and has
no of course that's all metaphors but
the metaphors explain that eyes and ears
can also natural and not only can you
justify and complete consent and
therefore the eyes and ears are
important and therefore the meal
the near miss Phelan his prayer employs
this wounding why does he play this
wording because he wants to show that
here we are in girls we're suffering
it's Corona we're locked up we need help
here having help in spiritual
experiences is not enough and the
cookies were in the situation so he
cries out to Hashem and there's a Shem
listen listen see a bait see what's
going down
I need because Dad you are about
flameless completion and perfection
which includes the physical as well yes
whether you want to say something no no
no you know I said he said he's
referring to go with a melon Festus I
see okay everyone yoni yoni did you find
it's a very you know it's a it's a
philosophical piece you got to use your
cup you know and I shan't benched us but
you understand that a thousand years ago
this this was a real
real debate among philosophers this girl
today you know we're interested in pizza
and pizza and soda you know or what you
think I'm saying I mean who's thinking
about these things but a thousand years
ago this was a you know what is God so
and and and and and the Rambam and to
try to prove because never they were
even who were losing their mother and
they were giving up and they were saying
that if Sam doesn't hear me and and and
and and if I had to say it's important
today to especially going through such a
trying time you know I I'm sure they're
people some people are saying where are
you I said what are you doing
if you're god how can you let this
happen so when you learn about this it
strengthens your a muna and there's much
more to say and to see how the rebel now
develops this idea in facility words in
terms everyone have a great day be
Marcia and we'll see everybody