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Practical Chasidus w Rabbi Chaim Dalfin - Maaamar Vata 1934 #7
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Idea and you are one vs. just understanding subject matter
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but afternoon please mute your mute your
screams or whatever it's making some
noise page 162 in in the minor
so just to recap learning here about the
concept of ill overall cause and effect
and how how it works the the the
association between the illa and the OO
and he used the words earlier 161 the
ascaris the closeness is the the
affection that the ELA shows to the owl
and the other shows to the ELA
puts them together yesterday we learned
that not only is it a general connection
but it really becomes part of who you
are and that's what I was just reading
to moshe asked me to repeat those few
lines which I did but basically the last
few words if you take a look at the
previous paragraph on page 162 he says
Kim shall say hoo ha hoo migaila those
words give us a description of what he
means there is a person who understands
very well with their mind the subject
matter however however it's not relevant
to him it's not only is so he
understands that he can philosophize and
he can teach and he can expound and give
a good russia but it's not who he is it
ever says that the proper the healthiest
olavo is when the say who leads to a
Amida and the metre is so much part of
you that it is you as he says you give
this business vet sign aza it's
you own it it's no longer an accent to
who you are but rather it is you it is
who you are and that's the best and most
correct ela Vogel situation when we talk
about safe limits let's continue now 162
than okay if and when we get there today
which will probably I'll have to do that
but my my camera now is is recording
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it to the group as we learn do it now
and as we learned this way we'll have
one 603 thank you there that was there
to further elaborate on this idea my
Sean O'Reilly in the Mukesh we see this
episode see the cadaver says in
actuality the Li mode via dear sateda
when we learn and we have knowledge of
theta cos shared effort leymah days ER
so give the eora when some individual
learns of su via a section in taylor the
even derive with great concentration of
focus called eel depth analysis the data
called proteins on their sojourn and he
knows all the details in the sugar in
time may have sports
he knows the reasoning for Oishi why
Rashi says his app is opinion he knows
my places disagrees with Rashi he
understands how place was approach is
different than Rashi and why traceless
doesn't say look Rashi why Roger doesn't
say that tasteless stasis so this means
that tiny ice waters
he understands he has the logic and
reasoning to each one's approach govern
the governed of hood I finally each
thing artists matter
he um he understands each individual
piece of logic that he studied that a
piece of information he studied your
daily eating a booty early again that
was just using verbage to make his point
clear
and he knows the subject matter our
board again means clear thorough or mad
a bit about some gear or without the boy
and he speaks about the Soviet about the
section that he's learning or Mahfoud
whoa boy
and he's simple he engages in extensive
conversation and back to forth and
upwards of downwards with the grub of
finger with this finger back of course
facerig marks his body moves have you
ever seen the way there's a YouTube you
guys should see of to tell me cuz I come
in with the surest receivers sitting at
a wedding
and they add a table and they start
talking about some sugah
and you can't believe love a wedding
it's sitting at dinner and they're
tearing each other apart
I need a learning their entire body that
you know they forgot the dad wedding and
the screen each other its size it's very
cute
to see but it's called by the way this
was a cheetah in the literature world in
Europe especially certain you see this
within certain literacy achievers
because it was medium there was classic
and it was then and then a button you
know tells sews not all have this sheet
navarre dick but some had the sheet that
weirds called this could that I sir
I heard this from someone who you know
came from mere his family and he was all
into Mir and Thomas Holcomb is and he
told me that in in their model if you
don't
tried to tell the other kind of party
learning you're a nobody and he said
that's why their style was that in
public has here if you felt that the
mothers here saying something foolish
you were supposed to voice your
objection in public and sometimes they
used insulting terms but what you're
saying this is foolish and stupid and
embarrassing
like that I mean it's it's hard food you
know for me coming from Alabama to
background and learning you know we
never never never did that there never
were taught to do that but he told me
that this was a cheetah cheetah
so when you'll see this video if you
ever look it up it's rabbi bear mountain
of Mir the Russell Shiva an Ocean
Parkway he's really lame animus and
rabbi boxed bak st he was I think Osiris
receiver there I think and they go at
each other it's it's it's amazing it's
called the Lister the horizon the
passion of theta and the more passionate
you are in scolding the other one in
Taylor if you feel he's saying Stuart
you let him know so so that's I say this
because that ever says here o Madhava
Maharaja he talks about the suger on the
powerful God he has people but again
temple doesn't mean you have to
embarrass the person that you're but it
means to get involved so it's called
Gilbert just be aware and I think that
maybe a certain with disease even still
today this is considered a virtue where
if you can get you so so passionate so
excited about learning where you knock
out someone I it reminds me I heard from
some rubber salivation abusive bear
salivated the rub of university
twice a year
give a major public fear in the
labyrinth auditorium at University on
Amsterdam Avenue over there in the
Washington Heights one was for his
father was mother his father's I believe
wasn't shocked I think it was shocked
anyway there were 2,000 people in the
auditorium packed Stansbury moment and
it was like 8 hours here sometimes four
hours six hours half of it was Gomorrah
Hoffa and half was gross God and people
came from all over for sure the
tri-state area but people even came from
Boston anyone who had an appreciation or
ever salivate she was there for the ship
because it was twice a year so someone
told me that he was called by an old
comic awesome from Europe who came to
America I think he lived in Brooklyn in
the in Brownsville which was the in the
40s into the 30s for was Jerusalem was
the lion's share America was called the
Jerusalem of America was Brownsville
Brooklyn and today I was there about
three four months ago because I wanted
to check something out an old shoe my
Babbage's shoe and during the day I felt
I felt very uncomfortable although there
was his police Anila Street they said
yeah it's all right there's nothing to
worry about during during the day but
boy was it scary anyway
at night you wouldn't walk there woke up
I'd now said they have a cop out of
Brownsville so go figure you can go to
Iraq you can go to Brownsville right
anyway so he called this fellow's told
me the story he was a young man 17 18 19
he drove a car he had a letter he knew
him some analysis can you pick me up and
take me turn up its elevated Russia he
said sure absolutely and he drove any to
any brought him you know to go down at
that in that if yet in that auditorium
you go all the way down you start on top
and the slow going bald
way down you know anybody he parks
himself the front row
knowing that rabbit elevation is going
to be on the dais over there and and and
he's right in front and Robert Sullivan
chick spoke and gave up the Russian he
gave up
everyone is only listening him all the
savvy he says in Gibby's hot out
salivate chick and I don't know if he
was older than it could be resolvable
harness elevate seek mercy result is
soos what you're saying is stupidity two
thousand people are in the room yet the
pink rabbit it was so quiet and this man
and salvation they each other that looks
like every Freddy's now solve a she says
if head was you fret
this is mrs. Gibbons with rocks I hear
what you're asking but that lost my
advocate wait let me finish
you're cutting off my tongue and he
starts getting angry I forget this Rose
name and passionate and and he said he
tells him why what he's saying is
stupidity and why it makes no sense
anyway he calms down
salivating says please you gotta you
gotta hear me out why I think this funny
the ideas this way anyway he got so
angry upset then a middle he just jumped
up he took the young guy by his hand he
says come we're leaving I can't stand
this anymore and the guy told me the
shoe he said he was a young young spoke
he was embarrassed he's being walked out
forced out from all the way down in the
first truth up the you know the Smeal to
go out he said he was turning purple and
blue and black
and everyone's looking at him and and
this old man tau forces them out he will
not stand the hero by salvations
stability when they come into the
corridor outside of the auditorium doors
and he's about to leave to walk out he
sees a poor guy with a girl probably
boyfriend a girlfriend whatever
brother-sister I don't know whatever but
he sees them standing there and talking
and he hears the old man who's this
European give the speaker he hears the
boy saying to the girl oh did you hear
what J what JB said today
did you hear what JB said he called I
was elevated by his English initial
initials Joseph bear JB and it became in
the Shiva world and in the Tara world a
derogatory way of addressing him because
the right wing all the years shunts
elevates everything a lot about this all
about it in my book so and I want to get
into it now and all the details but
basically they they felt you know he's
going to the left while you and all that
Modern Orthodoxy so he said and he
wasn't this big savage this guy out
there but he said yeah I guess that's
the way he was used to hearing JB JB JB
this little man I he told me he was a
little short guy disrobe from from from
Brownsville and it was a rough maybe
just about a bus but he was such a good
be going he went over to him and he said
and he looks up to this tall guy he says
what did you say force us to gives up
that English Yiddish and he says I said
that JB said so and so he took us yeah
and he gave him a slap in his face in
front of his girlfriend a slap in his
face
this little shorty and he says that
hurts
their offense you know what kind of line
you're talking about kind of a genius
he took the bed guy by the hand and he
went back into the auditorium and he
went all the way back down and except
somehow next to him the lecture finished
shortly thereafter and he went up to
every cell eventually said I doubt
salivate check their men's this person
her fashion advice given he embarrassed
you and he needs to ask my ceiling needs
to ask for forgiveness of a celibate she
was calm and he understood already how
he embarrassed him and he said it's all
right that's all right that's all right
that's the story great story great story
but I bring out the point of the wrister
there I said in front of 2,000 people to
say that what you're saying is stupidity
terrible elevate sick is unheard of but
in their world that's the accepted norm
so I just want I think the story really
highlights in other words he didn't need
to embarrass elevates it he had a duty
and obligation from where he was coming
from from his Whitlock view and and
upbringing and everything else this is
the way later
yes motion what's the connection between
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if we're talking about what we're
speaking about something should permeate
to us the position it should permeate to
us it should permeate how we act so help
us maybe just understand
no no no no the connection was there
says here it's not connection not
connected to ela vole
he says over here that you should learn
the subject managed so well speak about
the subject that you know that this
figure over Fargo bar form I found Oba
do people in it so I was giving you just
a story an example of various different
forms of pimple that that's that's the
only reason I mentioned it and maybe it
should have not been mentioned but I
thought it would be worthwhile anyways
is that you would not you would not in
front the two thousand people
embarrassed about embarrass anyone but
even one-on-one you know it's not the
style to to scream at at the other
person in public even a learning it's
it's the whole the whole Mahalo you know
comedy approach is a very different one
and it's not just by the way I want to
make the clips not just kebab love
Babbage's it's really most other styles
of learning whether it being the Pope
let's take let's say the gehrer the
gerotor are big tell me there's a from
them and learn the Gareth I see them and
you know and bells this is not as far as
I know and tell me from if anyone knows
otherwise but this is not their style of
public humiliation within within
learning it's just not it's not done so
the pimple is you and I are sitting at a
fastener or a bar mitzvah or whatever
and and you know we talked idea and we
are animated but you know it's not a mid
fat an obligation the if I scream at you
more and call you more of an idiot or
Satan that you're in saying is stupid
I don't get any more credit for learning
plainer whereas in
in this particular lippisch model you do
that's that's a hitch to meet the finish
and it's a style that they use again
they meant well they didn't mean like
how can you say such a foolish thing and
I want to tell you something
girl calm atmosphere told us a story
always in yeshiva that I think it was I
think it was late with going back to the
50s or 60s there was a situation where a
buzzer he didn't want America sidess but
he was you felt he was very strong he
was like the Erie of the achieve of the
genius and he enjoyed talking with
you're cognizant of genius so they would
chat before an answer after the sheer
but he didn't attend this year and one
guy making this very brief one day he
went to that safety set that up Yardley
it's an issue he wants to speak to the
Rebbe about it and basically the rebel
showed him that unless he starts
learning her scissors and which will
bring humility to him he's gonna have
issues and he said he got very upset he
walked out of 77 he slammed the door you
want to talk to anybody because they're
ever put him into a corner
intellectually they never proved to him
that only through Gemara
his issue which was guided properly he
felt you know ego cuz he was and whoever
set him demons you're gonna go back to
the yeshiva you're gonna say a pillow
for my father but you're gonna say it
dissertation you gonna say what works
and you're the genius of the achiever
and it's gonna be terrible terrible
cities everyone's gonna laugh for you
and it was the how could you have said
such a stupidity you know so don't think
that this it has different forms in
other words has different forms of
expression that's what I'm saying but
blend open attention let's get back to
the text but
but practically in in in the about
policy you see this they don't learn
that way and even in I'm saying they
don't they don't engage in in in yeah
okay so it's a good good source they
quote their smooth you're right but
practically we don't do that you know in
most receivers but there is such a
Mahalo
even today probably in most literacy
shiva's they're more more careful to
going them you know they're to go and
embarrass her another person that's it's
probably not not done but the old-style
in Europe this is what he was telling me
this mirror grandson and this is what
you see between these old mirrors by the
bast and rather barren bomb were old
mirrors from Europe and this was a
certain style okay como claim a nearly
abuse if we survive that ever says
nevertheless although what although you
know the subject matters so well that
you talk about it and you're again
you're passionate about it nevertheless
it's only intellectual knowledge avocado
iya now who watched when they gallery
that ever says however if it leaves the
full of the domain of intellectualism
and becomes you become a cursor to what
you become bound to it through
concentration and focus then it becomes
who you are and it's Magali us who
believe in Allah domine then the
knowledge that you know very well is
it's not it's not knowledge it's you
it's real life it's not I have a lot of
knowledge in me this is who I am
the how people shall labor you know home
so that when he speak
about the knowledge that he has the
highest have with tremendous vitality
fires
Kamiya the depakote this is beautiful
Nitish the hearts red the heart speaks
here it's not the cup speaking it's not
the mind burrow it's not the mind that
have speaking but your heart is speaking
though though your mouth is speaking and
your and you're speaking with you
understand but you're so one with it
that it's it's who you are it's your
heart that you're passionate you mean
that now that it's muscles take for
example misha layman tough so here
someone who learns a sugar a section
that made the may said Sade o mas mas
penis he sells his feel due to his he's
consumed and he's forced oh my said of
my guru Bickler smooth you know what
this key butters talked about this this
example correct right correct
it's called Mason made up with a they
are called Proteus tsukete he knows all
the details in her anus for you beside
establish at the zoo was this
transaction that he was forced into
wasn't a regular field or was this any
field or it was this particular one
/ - couple of summers and how was the
transaction of the of the money the fame
buddy finally me sit aside my book and
then there are details how did he
notified in bout there how did he make
his Mossad his protest did he do it
orally a bit South the whole broadcasts
what is your daily Simba kinda and he
knows all the arguments and reasoning in
great
/ followed by hand by her monk at the
day look and he he engages in pupil with
great depth Kaffee Hamas corner
ha'la'tha coming to a conclusion borrow
and the Halawa right the Gemara game he
has this were and that swara and then
he's my foul ball and he says this is
the way Hillel we should pasta the
shorter dinner commercial who Mithila
Dina came atonal a compromise is Dina
its did is like a sail and Mithila and
when you pardon and you forgive Dina
came eternal is been is like a gift of
my father's a cause of all her anus no
fussing delicate a gift
let's get that's written as Christ
the caution which means I think doesn't
mean swarthy the mortgage mortgage
properties is that pathways right okay
these are committed that's also the law
its business like the same with the site
it's a solid as a sale but I'm sure
they're it disorders eats just examples
but Garcia dad calling young the abrupt
in Chiapas there although he knows all
that all the details without book and he
gets involved and engaged in the details
of the count of the sugar coma family
icicles there nevertheless after all
said and done
Angelia dears it was revived it's only
intellectual logic and knowledge that he
has I will be fanatical a nominee who
conversely it is totally
friend kasi who ice moly mr. D's
learning in I hope and again Leila my
sir that he knows that this subject
matter that I'm studying is relevant
motion to my bottom line my view in
other words it's not just intellectual
idea and engaging in the pupil and the
arguments but the information that I'm
learning and discussing thoroughly will
be relevant to how I behave and how I
act and what's going to be with my
properties and finances so it's not just
yoni theoretical it's practical we're on
top of 163 oz he may house for a saw a
low ice mom hang Exley because now when
you know that the subject matter you're
learning will is relevant to your
behavior the learning of it is much more
animated but we were sinners if it's
just about knowledge okay I hear you but
if we understand how the details of what
we're learning will make a difference in
our behavior this way that way our
learnings very different why because
it's bottom line it's my son's behavior
telephone behind know the violation
dictates them acts lady bees for his
Bahama so is caduceus in addition to the
fact that when you learn knowing that
will be relevant that adds a multitude
of of Rd of Soares vomits be him being
so is caduceus creative ideas come to
you when you know it's relevant right
mushers draw
he's he knows that someone commissioned
him and he only knows is gonna be in an
art gallery it's a whole different way
of looking at her what would I write if
I write to myself I just jot down some
notes well like what I know that I'm
gonna publish this it's a whole
different writing it's a whole different
understanding of a subject matter that's
the point before up they have Suki ahi
so in addition to him finding new
innovative and creative ideas in this
subject matter that he didn't have
before
what he didn't realize it was going to
be relevant but now that he realizes
what it's gonna be relevant so he has so
much so much more creativity and
understanding
he'll advisors in addition to that being
true howdy miss a durable woven deeply
tightness of - beep boop beep oh
sauce that's money he arouses in his
heart
many kindness are complaints or - - OH -
you've read that expression right - I
now with I am is a complaint mine now
was an iron as an answer so it arouses
many complaints Pro and and answers pro
and con back-and-forth be he precisely
what does be precisely mean people to
turn over to to change to doesn't mean
school here besides me that he finds it
to be beneficial for his position or
just the opposite
oh so so the hippo is going on himself
is that it
so be hippo suicides money although it's
against his position but he sees the
truth the argument proves to him sorry
you are wrong and he's honest enough to
say that the holes they who live cook
why because it's relevant if that's the
clothes they loo if you say a neither
gay i lo hee it's because it's relevant
to him
so here most is a concrete example of
just learning for the sake of learning
and understanding it well and being able
to discuss it and all that but you
wouldn't come to a point where you could
say I'm wrong to say the I'm wrong it
has to be legal early enough you know
those have to be so honest that I want
to be honest but I want to be honest and
to be honest the argument is against me
I'm wrong
what time is it now I don't have the
watch but I'm okay okay I should be a
mercy they be goofy accent you dear sub
scholars are eating you know who the
truth is knowing the subject matter with
its details
a shrimp fritters Dublin are mushy your
tequila there's no real widows to what
he knew earlier the gods healer yarders
have shook your body even before he knew
the Sookie reception very well fed out
his conscious who the only novelty was
bizarre the Tina Yothers of sick leave
about initially only knew the logic the
God should give advice to the appeal but
I was de llano though he spoke about the
Silvia
great people and great South kite the
sharpness and you know clarity the
spineless and emotional he was he was a
passion and excited about it of who dock
his spine was a sample of odd that ever
says that excitement was only an
intellectual excitement it was driven by
the cup by the mind actor but now
kahshanna in you know gaya Louie when
the subject matter is relevant to
himself to him in those customers who by
being in his connection to the subject
pour of the gorram it causes his sainted
is with lovely permissible if it's not
just an intellectual passion and
excitement it awakens the heart the
neither should live with an emotion in
the heart if you feel bicycle ie
based on the intellectual obligation of
what he understands he feels that's the
ill of all emotion that's the elbow
right the same hole he understands very
well so and it's and it's not just the
understand it goes from from just
understanding very well to it becoming
who he is and the result is am either so
I just point out when does it become
yoni who he is in the heart or the mind
anyone when when at what position does
it become yours know in in das in dust
and thus is an element in the mind focus
and concentration that's if that's where
it becomes yours and it results itself
in the heart okay
the proof is in the pudding the pudding
is
the heart is the expression the
leadership a left but at what point does
it become who you are does like we've
discussed many times the important of
das
what's kebab does I don't care who you
are when you are kebab ethos is dust
like LF I am Karl Barth told me and I
repeated it many times you either got
das you don't have to us and the worst
thing in the Babbage was when you
stepped into the Babbage not to be a
fool
toss toss toss and it's not you got a
working gas you could be brilliant and
we've seen geniuses but there's missing
does having the only common sense
sometimes but the these cashless it's a
very different position but it's part I
point out you it's part of the cup it's
the huffman Pina dance
it's the focus and concentration to the
point this is who you are and of course
everyone knows the good mother supports
that regarding you know relations
intimacy know that and kiss really das
you must have doubts you don't have das
you have nothing you could have
entertainment you have an excitement you
can have many other things but you don't
got a result of us you know it section
let's go further
hey who Gandhi inna saw this l ET's so
to regarding understanding how colors
vertical godliness Ryan but movies we
see in actuality catch Elena Daisy in
you know Medina if he played when you
learn a subject matter and you
understand it well the open up here with
all the details on who with all those
details miles billiards million and you
explain to yourself Hillel and and and
and and
and Boris alerting over this Villa same
an instant Venice and they explain to
each other debut in the diabetic
lifetime and they talk about it before
the smack in a good way and the spoiled
brats money and the person learning is
miss Farley's impact that is easy geeky
gets excited of the emails I'm muscular
ho-oh that logic that idea is so sweet
it's spread flavors sweetness it's sweet
shove a sweet it's the greatest into
what an idea of smooth out to be an idea
the other day what what a mighty
abortion nicole monkey nevertheless it
was divine intellectual idea yes it
turns you on intellectually and you're
excited about it but it's knowledge
still the eczema in your name you get
annoyed and the thing itself outside of
the intellectual excitement does not
touch you sure you filet is visibly
brain that it should arouse some emotion
in the heart in other words what's
triggering the excitement my
understanding strip the understanding I
have broken no no issue is that I don't
care for it but when we're talking about
something becoming who who you are even
if you were to strip the intellectual
seasoning you know of supporting the
feeling even if you were to remove that
you still be just as excited and and
they'll be meaningful to you because
it's now in your heart
it's a meter or have you said earlier
those beautiful sweet words
that's design that as I it's yours it's
not just your heads it's yours God's yes
with high opinion and although who's
still saying he's still poking about if
someone
only has it but in his mind although you
have much say who moon isn't damn true
part another beautiful Yiddish word to
means to cook to cockneys how
do you say to God in this in this in
this instance it means and you're all
excited about it
you're all cooked up what yeah right -
cost of a Brent right and but this yeah
usually they say for Brent but but this
took off from cooking it soaked it's
cooked so well and what how does that
express itself be his by gustave with
great emotion so you would think that
this guy who's so into it and easy
he's easy fiver it's him says that ever
he knew that it's not to selectively odd
that ever says still not his heart
it's a rebound or a response to an
intellectual excitement but yeah what
was saying here you know saying here
this is so this is classic Habad in its
purity you can see a person who's all
electrified and that ever says it's
still not who he is the famous story was
recycle that Raikou me don't forget his
last game with the out with the red swim
it was down to that but hosted at the
altar never went for shoppers to
Woodmere and he saw the chef michael
governing and he came back and he and he
said to the Hasidim out to the outer
never see them maybe she will remember
the details that I remember exactly we
said it but he said it
wow I was their sharpest it was fired
the suckling industry
and the subject was unbelievable and the
response was there Brent you said the
word Brent who's on fire and he I'm
sorry and disgusted got so turned on
that he started to beat Scott and and
and Arvin and he was shaking and baking
and the fiery face new breasts or heiko
versus India Brent are you on fire or is
the cycle been transformed into you
transferred into you there's a piece of
haiku it's you that's causing you to be
on fire but it's not who you are it's
it's an old line that's been shared to
survive for 200 years but it's a it's a
powerful one I heard this refugio many
times it's a brain it's a cycle ship
indeed was Brent yeah the subject is on
fire you're a hostage
are you a fire because he's he's tough
to link to you and he's helping you go
on fire which by the way cover fire
however or the Chabad model in avoidance
of shame is you have to be on fire and
if you're not on fire I don't care if
the Hyksos I'm firing you but it's not
you and and I conclude this that ever
you know before give all Thomas what did
he say if to outsource it can't to bring
to bring atmosphere what does that mean
to me it means guys I've done a full
year for 42 years
your big boys now beat yourself put
yourself
I'll give you breakfast I'll give you
eight says I'll help you got a Do It
Yourself no one can do it for you and I
think this is part of this message have
a great day everyone see everyone
tomorrow as I presumed by yes