Pesach Maamar Matza Zu 1944 #8 Living in Harmony - Opposites need Direction

so we're in the matza zoo of the previous slab of 1944 on page 222 three lines from the bottom um i mentioned yesterday that the previous level here introduces a teaching from his uh great grandfather that's a mercedes parenthetically something hit me about three weeks ago which i put into a footnote in the upcoming book semester's father's name was rafalem out schuler daughter what should have been the samarth sadik's name rebecca mendel out schuler what did he call himself and a banaca mendel schneiderson anyone have an explanation no one had an explanation no one knows but you know all these years here i am so many years immersed in in khabar teachings and and history and it just dawned on me and when i asked a few people who are knowledgeable they they they didn't they didn't even think about it so um i'm just mentioning since i mentioned it's amazing you know it's interesting now it's not a question and it is a question because in those days people took different names you know the whole saga of family names uh became uh relevant during the period in the of the semester years as rebbe 1840 50 60 i don't know exactly what year you know for example the mithila river the second bhavatram is called rep was called the rabbi dove bear shnay or ori shnay ori because his father's first name was schneider schneider's almond but what what was that what was dr rebbe's last name though wasn't he he was called alan barakovich because his father's name was baruch it was it was before russia gave family it was before that period both right it was during the semester this i don't have the exact date but this is public knowledge you could look it up i'm sure and find out when the tsar instituted family names i believe there was some time in 30 18 30 40 50 sometime then and and uh he chose the name schneerson now we do know that uh the the because of what the altar ever went through and the mithla rabbit both they had a very uh good uh name in the governmental office offices and so it's logical makes sense that he would choose a more prominent name that was known in russia schneerson versus outshuller and because the the the chemical like his predecessors and successors wanted to and did help jewish people throughout russia and and the region by opening uh factories you know giving people parnosa people think that um we're just sitting at home and writing by maram and teaching hasidis and giving this it's it's a big mistake a very big mistake specifically the laboratory is from the altar through hour was very much involved in in helping yeden throughout those areas for example the the the land of um of the denver denmark uh forget now certain lit sections were actually given to the tsa mercedes to open agriculture opportunities for eden and he did that and you're talking now and and and thousands and thousands of jews had panosa for many years later because of that and and why did he get it who was he because he was a schneerson there's an expression in russian that they would call rabbina something you know rabbi of notoriety so it makes sense to me that he chose the name um you know schneiderlin versus his own father's family name outschuler because of of the prominence that the schneerson name had in in in russia but again i haven't seen it documented yes motivation in those days did he himself gravitate on his own to the to the i mean i want to call it but in those days it wasn't exactly called probably but did he or did he come from his was his father already somehow connected to the mittler oh so first of all first of all it's incorrect at that time was known and called khabar and actually it goes back the name chabad goes back to the alter episteme there's a the academics and others have a disagreement one what particular year we could we could point to as the founding of the chabad movement because the altered you know was appointed by rep mendel of vitepsk and above realm of kalisk when they left in 1788 eretz isro so he was appointed as a rebber for that entire region which was called then white russia right and he wasn't appointed as a khabad rabbi he was appointed as a hasidic rebel he replaced them and they were appointed by the maggit right so now the question is when and but yet but yet we see with the story with um who wanted to come in he was being you know pursued and and bothered by the miss not them so he had to get out of town right uh from lita from the from carleen which is in in the litter region and he asked permission of the altered who was the one in charge of ricin the area was called rice and white russia whether he can park himself there he needed permission they were this wasn't things were organized because from color care and and and and mendel victor said that he and everyone knew he is the one in charge so if wanna come into his territory you need permission and he asked and the altar ever told him three conditions two of which he was able he was agreeable but the third he wasn't which was that he wanted to teach hasidis in the style of polish hasidis and in meaning also you rely on on the tsadik and the altar said in this area we don't follow that approach we use chabad well that's that that tells us an interesting point that the alternative though officially not being called the chabad rebbe at that time was seemingly teaching the people and people that decide this approach of tradition is not the approach that i want for this region so some say that points to the fact that that's when chabad started even though it wasn't officially called okay and others argue although that's true it doesn't still mean that the chabad ethos was the only way to learn hasidis and etc but one thing's for sure what i said now is during the outdoor episodes but during the semester times it was uh definitely chabad i mean let's go let's go let's go 10 years later i was talking about 1788 1780s in 1798 1799 of avraham kalaskar from who lived at the time at ferrier you know he opposed the altered style of chabad and he sent rav nachman of bresliv 450 miles out of his way upon his return for marriage his role to the alternate but to try to convince him not to teach that's the 17 1800 in 1800 so so you're talking about so so there's no question that from i would say from 1788 1790 to 1800 sometime during that time is when chabad became known as khabad hasidis there is a safer that rabbi nahum greenwald wrote a very large 500 page safer um it's called rav rav it's in hebrew and he has a lot of discussion about what i'm telling you as i'm sharing some of that okay but the senate okay thank you thank you for that oh so that's that that was one point that i wanted to correct in your statement the second point i is an interesting question i don't have an answer i don't remember i think that if shalom the outshooler was already connected to the altar as as a chabad husset i think so he started his uh connection before the middle of heaven one of the daughters of the the midlander um yeah that's what i'm telling you new shalom shocked them married the married the daughter of the midfielder oh yeah yeah okay right yeah yeah okay um i don't know if that you know this is interesting to hillary and jonas he wasn't he he wasn't from from from regin like the regina no no no i know what you're talking about no no okay okay i know what you're talking about you're talking about a son or grandson of the of the maggid who was associated with the regina right uh his name was his name was a double chair um forget now i i think i know what you're talking about no that's that's different no okay this is okay okay out shoulder out and you know who he was named after where he came from i don't know but uh it's it's known it can be it i believe it's been written about i just never spent time on that okay but so since we're going to learn now from the the deck um regarding hashem's kayakabilty bog rule that we learned yesterday and hilo commented nicely on it that um that there's a difference between there's a difference between something that begins deteriorating from creation versus something that is not that way and only at the time when hashem says now i want it to begin being deteriorate it begins deteriorating that that's the kuda that we learned yesterday and now yo sim that ever brings another ayah from let's [Music] each one's different the sun goes one direction the moon another direction the stars the third direction each one has what we call a specific path this path unison is different than its friend the other he calls me right like their friends and buddies you know we're talking like an about a i think so i think so well let's see but i think so the ava became they are all with the same objective the coil the time of day night winter cold hot coyotes summer the height of winter zetter the cuts here planting and reaping in other words they all have one mon one objective to accomplish day night cold hot in other words although they're different they all work in unison to create the atmosphere the temperature the the distinction between night and day it all comes together it's wonderful because with one one objective mk back to the text who brings them together asks if they are [Music] separate entities semper bodies who brings them together to have one objective program who brings them together and kind of forces them work together guys don't get into a fight some don't interrupt the moon and move don't interrupt the sun [Music] is it's not the particular soul and drive within each constellation why he's only able it is only able to move based on this particular constellation's orbit and it would not be able to do something that is contrary to its modus operandi the lei she is in goggles it would not be able to bind himself and join itself to the other gal gayle the other constellation is and it would not lend itself to an organized orbit one in which it guards itself it guards siva its orbit from touching and interfering the others orbit the years shake it on the claim and that it remain diligent where it is the place that's been designated for it nishman that it should be constantly designated to what hashem wants of it on earth in the universe and every one of them individually does its job all together constantly it cannot be that ebba says that its individual orbit would not get in the way of the other's orbit i would think the logic is i don't know if he says it he doesn't why because since it's limited it has its agenda if it has its agenda it says i don't like the other's agenda right do what my way or the highway and yet we see no interference things work out exactly correctly because there's some greater kayak that makes them come together that's the point let's continue see we cannot say that what binds them and what unites them is something called the supernal gaga which is called gauguil hayomi the constellation the day constellation shaco hagar go and queen boy that all others all over gal galion that the soul of this goggle aelion who hamas out of them it makes them orbit like one man with one objective says all constellations orbit because of the general gogola me i don't know what that is hilo do you know what this general gauguin is that he's referring to i it i mean i think that that like the daily uh daily uh circulation the the uh the earth's rotation out of taxes that's what i would have meant you understand what are you saying i the think no okay so so one second so that episode 7 says that it's true he says it's true there is a goggle you meet whether it's what hilo said or what jonas has said or both together whatever me come okay nevertheless all the gauguin are not a together all the limbs make one body so the rabbit says it's not similar to limbs lois [Music] why because mostly by the limbs each limb is not an independent body each limb is part of one body and that's the difference between the the limbs of man and the gauguin and the constellations the constellations every goggle is an independent goof so therefore the rabbit says we cannot say that just as the limbs of one's body the various limbs are all controlled by one body he says it would not make sense to say that here because every single goggle has its own body and since it has his own body it's independent and if it's independent why should it be to get why should it listen and follow order and cohesiveness yes you want to say something youngest and glad yeah there are nine nine or eight planets around the solar system and they each go around according to their own orbit [Music] and they are completely independent of each other and it's quite amazing the way the way they do that have you have you studied unison astronomy yeah not in detail but i've done it very nice good good i'm glad we so thank you for sharing that so let's see what that happens is further there is a one limb is one part of a body the dublin and that limb is attached and connected to the other limbs conversely of all gal galim ano kane the constellations are not so king him rather like johannes said every single goggle has its own independent goof the proof to this is it says you see that in their orbit they're all very different you know anything could you comment on that what does that mean that in their orbit they're all very different yeah they go at a different speed around the sun and and because because one is small and the other one is big jupiter and saturn are huge compared to earth and mars and fenders so so they go around and they they but the orbits never interfere with each other so that's what it means for rael said the proof is the fact that the golem are different in their orbit but as as we say they don't interfere with [Music] orbit from west to east side of him and there are some that orbit from east to west here ends the language that we see regarding the seven what what's the translation of the trajectory no uh orbit i think is the best word okay freelancers yes is this what he mentions i don't know i don't know but it looks like it's a safer that's a so that has explains um the gold golem and things like that maybe we can do a google later you know anyway that we see in the orbit and the trajectory of each of these seven that they have a particular path and um it's it's it's designated for each to their own and he says this trajectory moshe of what each of these seven stars kind of is different than the other the in kane if so yes you can't say he says that it's one body remember this is this is the difference you're making between the limbs of a man in one body versus each of the golem which has its own body because because it has a different trajectory that's what he says and it's it's it's it's approach it's trajectory it's orbit is not similar to the other one liam kane he has to say because if you were to say that they're all part of one goof how can you say some will uh orbit this a little bit this way and some will orbit a little bit that way will behave examines that going in different directions sam and miserable milo if this one's orbiting from east to west the zen makes no sense if it's the same thing that proves that it's not the same thing that each one has its own goof and its own approach it orbits from east to west [Music] orbit um within themselves kind of of israel from has a very uh a philosophical rule it is impossible to have one golf have two opposing uh two opposing forces to be experienced at once make up your mind right to left left to right east to west west east which way are you going it's a two-way street you can't do both at the same time that's all points to to the fact yes moshe except for that example you guys gave us i forgot the name of the hustle that he cried out of one eye and he smiled out of the other eye repair parents of chernikov a.k.a reparats the they would see tears from one eye and low and smiling from the other eye but you know they looked at him as not normal how could that be but he was very normal but he was on a very high level but they were talking about badassness in the world of the constellations we must conclude that they are different separate bodies and we also must say and this is the point the punch line that defeated cadaba wants to explain that there's a higher force that's greater than the force within the constellations and and and the heavenly hosts that force is limitless now if science agrees or doesn't i don't know how science would explain this but that happened you know the the semester and the rambam and tyra believes that there is this force is the force that brings everyone together so if you look at it from a table perspective from each body's uh celestial bodies dna they couldn't live together and this is why i mentioned yesterday why that we had a problem with the the the the pharisees it says he created worlds and they destroyed each other you're right if you only look at and understand hashem as being a power of finite there's going to be destruction because everyone gets in the way of the other one and they can't live together can't orbit together but here you see that it's not that way the sun comes out and the moon goes to sleep the moon comes out the sun goes who who tells it who tells it what it it what is it in in each of these entities that makes them go aside so peacefully and calmly and in a harmonious way for the other the answer is the koyaka guilty balcony yesterday that has nothing and a group yes and the netherlands of the planet is connected to to the greater someone [Music] yes but but if i understand what what's being said here is that the nephesh of that planet is still glow yes it is it is but right good so at the end of the day it's the higher force and power the built-in that makes it behave itself let's learn the kit sir your violin explains in a logic and comprehension and a meditation that's specific for the third media called beauty charisma this is the greatness meditating on the greatness of god that it creates and sustains infinite worlds that are created and infinite he also mentioned that misappropriated when we look at the heaven we see the glory of god mitzvah mayam on the adam from the heavenly hosts we know ayurvesa built a glue a bleak wool that god has an infinite power swara earthly hosts exist bemin meaning the sp not just in the kind right that's why the kind dies can die but swash of heavenly hosts the constellations and and and the and everything else is they exist of species the yasbi and he explained that that the constellations have individuals bodies one has a specific trajectory nevertheless each one goes towards the oval or the overall objective the actually a slave inside there for chicago and that overall objective cannot be all cannot happen if it were to only be from the perspective of the soul of the goggle and even not even based on the overall goggle whether you call the sun or whatever the gala ella now i wouldn't be surprised that you know not everyone agrees with this amongst the jewish philosophers i simply don't know enough you know we would have to know what the rasa if sanji going says i would think that this is open for a lot of discussion in the writings of jewish philosophers you know this is part of kakira jewish philosophy [Music] okay meaning what what rubber dolphin what what would you think would be a counter argument a counter argument would be for example that the golgo guymi the overall goggle is powerful enough to keep things uh peaceful and together now as we have three things here what we learned now is three things there is the gal go protein there is the specific individual goggle right the the moon the sun that right the each of the planets etc then there is a general gal goggle which is called gal glyomy jonathan says that's a reference to the sun i don't know enough to say what it is or whatever that is and then there is something he says a force that's beyond the goggles so i see three things here i'm not i i i don't know how how uh the other philosophers um see it i i just don't know enough what let me ask you a question i was going to ask i was just going to comment that it seems to me that what this is an argument is kind of the whole fundamental philosophical question did hashem set the universe in motion uh and you know kind of let it run by natural law or is there hush pratius and this is a you know very robust touchdown argument okay i could see that yeah i could see your point based on on what the rep is saying i could see that maisha what are you saying well i was gonna ask something slightly different i mean i you know we're talking about astronomy here uh and one of the things that i seem to remember coming across and i i don't i never confirmed this but is it possible that the rabbit held that the earth is going to sound very bizarre maybe but is it possible that the rabbit held that the earth um that the earth is that the sun the sun revolved around the earth yes yes it's a good model go ahead as anybody i mean if either of you have any of you ever heard that the rabbit held this way well i i do know that the rebbe uh there's in one of the books i've read he describes sort of uh he sort of uh defends that idea or promotes that idea that the sun revolves around the earth from the perspective of you know when you have bodies in motion depending on where your your perspective that's uh that's you can view it from that way um i have seen that i think that there's a discussion of that in the goodness it begins with a gemara you know before the rapper 2000 years before there is a gomorrah and what does the gemara say you you know that the gemara speaks about this right i think it's above basu yeah yeah what is the gomorrah's i mean the gemara's gamora's perspective is that the sun revolves around the earth thank you so much begins with a gemura the rebber and and others grapple with that and how do you explain that but it's a gemara and was there is is there any definitive um is there any is anything that definitive that says or is there is it do we know how the rabbit held definitively or i i i there's numerous letters that are published on this and talks that have been given by about oriented scientists uh i i cannot talk intelligently about this i tried over the years as a younger man you know you have to really you have to know science you have to really know and um i just couldn't wrap my head around it it was i just couldn't so i can't answer that definitively i can't tell you but that the gemara says that is definite but but you know you you know take out you must have at home some of these books science and torah and see what they say and i i know that there are disagreements amongst the orthodox scientists on this issue and uh i think that many of them or some of them did not accept the rebbe's arguments so this was you know discussed and there was an or there was or maybe is an organization called orthodox scientists you ever hear of that organization it was out it started in here in new york years ago the 50s and 60s this was a very big topic and they naturally discussed things with the rapper because he was so studied in addition to knowing torah so he was a man who couldn't deal with it feinstein that wasn't his field or a byron cutler that wasn't their field you know i'm talking about someone who studied the sciences and knew it i mean salvation was the rapper was you know so they uh there are letters from the rabbit to the orthodox scientists and back and forth and they had yahidis so this you're identifying moisha um a part of history that has that was dealt with but i i cannot say in good faith i i i can say definitively there was there is a book when i was a booker i remember reading and trying to understand that called how he say science mother mother and moon or something that they collected all of the rebbe's scientific letters in one place and um you know oh you know in english it's a or a torah journal from professor branover and maybe it's online today maybe you can find this online there there was a lot of discussion about this i have to go to another share we'll see everyone tomorrow we will learn i'll let you know bring the letter the letter let's start learning the letter from 1934 i assume you still have it on your computers right that we we we learned from purim there's a section there from pesach yeah yeah okay zeitgeist everyone thank you have a good day bye bye