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Pesach Maamar Matza Zu 1944 #6 Is Global Warming a Torah View?
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yes
we're on page 221 in the my
mata zoo that the previous rabbit
has said or had written for 1944 in the
middle of the holocaust
and here is the hasidis who went through
the holocaust
went through stalin and he has
the wherewithal even though his
his health was not well at all
and to to give over such a mimer and
in the point we're at now where
the rabbit is brought a lush
zayar
the heavens will tell a story what story
will they be
up bear quite kale the glory of akades
boroho
so we have the target unison that he
brings on 221 in the middle of page
quote the mistaklin bismaya
gays gazing on the heaven
yokota i'm staying little miss playing
with
you cut it hashem the dearness
the yokota yokar the preciousness of god
now obviously the tartan janison isn't
just giving us a
literal translation but the target
yellowstone
is hinting to a deeper idea as the rebbe
explains in
the idea that to gaze into heaven
he says it's similar to the idea of sue
mari menehem
lift your eyes to heaven and see
me butter ela who created
everything in front of one's eyes
quoting the muscle martial argument
i like the muscle a mighty fellow very
strong
a bodybuilder goes into a country
and no one knows who he is
so it took some shrewd
we see we pay attention to the stones
the rocks that he touches and he plays
with and he
handles and from that
you know that this guy is really really
strong
i just wrote just the other day
i reminded myself when i was a boy a boy
when i was a teenager
13 14 15 years old my place
at the rebels fabregans was behind the
rubber
you see we all had places
and before you became a regular
you had to be there on time to show that
you really committed to this
so you came before the fabregan an hour
half an hour an hour and
you got your place and you you stood
fast
and you didn't let anyone shove you to
the right or the left left this is your
place because
there was a guy next to you at his place
and a guy before and after you and you
were all surrounded by guys that has
their places
so as a boy i wanted to hear the rabbit
not just see him so i got myself a place
behind his backs although i couldn't see
his face unless he turned around which
was only during
the intervals when they said
but i compromised that it was worth for
me to hear better what i'm saying than
to see him because
i couldn't do both because i was a young
boy a young teenager
who am i after all
well lo and behold at the larger
fabregas this is 1974-75 i'm talking
about
at the larger fabregas the the shul
the fabregan took more of the shul right
shabbos the fabrega was still relatively
smaller but during the weekdays people
were able to drive from other parts of
new york etc
so the fabregans were larger one of the
guests that came
for the larger fabregas was mayor abuser
and mayor alba i didn't know who mayor
adversary is
well i saw that standing a person or two
near me on the bench behind the rubber
was a man
with a large hat with a nice face
with a nice beard and i noticed
that the river from time to time youth
based tamils yucha
purim would turn around and go like this
to him to whistle
during the during the night and
he became known in lubavitch in khabad
the rebels
whistler he had a yeshidas with the rep
in 1971
he was missing another i didn't
understand that he
whistled but the rebbe the rebber
uh summoned showed him to like this
the rabbit didn't whistle the rabbit did
not whistle
but he showed him mayor you lead
us in whistling okay
okay and and and
and mayor started to whistle and the
whole crowd whoever who had whistle
whistled and there was neg and the
simpha
was beyond words and this wasn't on
every every brain occurrence you know
i would say it was several times a year
when when
andereb explained once what justified
whistling because
whistling is it's not a jewish thing
but he brought the what it says in
tanakh that when david melech returned
the urine
from the pleasure to him right there in
betshemish in the valley over there
right it says in tanakh
maharaj david whistled
so the rapper said well dog was a lot of
whistle and we're not the answer is
david whistled because the symbol was so
great
so the rabbit said that at a time when
we're battling the yates and there's
some idea of simcha that will shatter
the yetzera
it's appropriate to whistle now only a
rabbit could say that and feel that you
know we don't know the difference
so whenever they're instructed the
whistle that was done and who was the
one who he usually
told to whistle if he was at the
fabregan
mayor abuser i even remember there were
times that ebber turned around and he
wanted to tell mayor to
start whistling and he wasn't at the
vibranium he didn't come there before
brengan
so so i reminded myself that's that's
just a background to what i wanted to
tell you
i reminded myself that mayor had
these large hands like twice the size of
my hand
and when he would touch because usually
it wasn't whistling was clapping
what he would patch with his hands i
relate to what it says here
in the
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the hands here it says the hands that
take the stone
you know you could see from the might of
his hands
how he how he dealt with a stone that's
what it says over here
so it reminded me of mayor abuser's
large hand standing next to this young
little shrimpy
uh teenager who's like you know
and mayor is fainting away with his
large hands
that's all i wanted to say let's go back
to the migrant
so what's the point what's the point of
the message
the point is hashem i miss
tale if you understand
gays if you gaze at the heavens
then you can really be messed up quite
kale
if you just look at the heavens say god
oh god created the heavens oh yeah
you won't have the message which by the
way we're coming up to
cypriots betrayal you want to get your
people
and your children grandchildren excited
you you need to be messed up
not only stories you need to you need to
really
be in the story in the seaport if they
see that you're living with the seaport
they're going to live with the seaport
if you're just repeating and you're
tired or you have
a half on the couch believe me it ain't
going to be much of a seat for it
they're going to say go to sleep
tired old man okay so let's continue
and you've been we're holding give a
human
do you have the place it's one two three
four five six
seven lines from the bottom and middle
of the page the you've one
yeah i have a place thank you good
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you've been beyonce
from the heavens and the hosts of the
heavens
on the dim we know espinas
we can relate to the infinity of hashem
habit
bhagava that that's beyond limitations
shalom is that transcends all created
worlds
this is what was what we could we could
have
an understanding of the the infinity of
god
the transcendence of god
shall say oh my
who created all that's before you
the numbers of of hosts
isla neda there is no lack
of ish of man in other words species
any and all species come from god
behind mashallah yes
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the fact that there is no
change and no have said no interruption
in the influence of hashem to humanity
and to all creation
that who is the one that sustains their
moshe
it is a force of god that's infinite why
what's the logic present if the force of
hashem
is limited shamu then you can't say isla
nega
there's going to be an end to the
species just as the argument goes now
with
global warming there will be a time when
there'll be an end
and the answer is what's the answer even
if we accept
the scientific argument the answer is
that's the
that's the perception of teva of gw
so from that perception maybe there will
be a cessation
but since i got this border was
transcendent
so even though in teva in nature it
looks there'll be a cessation
god whose transcendence says
it will never stop the species will
continue
the sun will be eternal hashem may the
sun and moon
government all the constellation
everything it's an eternity of
ms and they'll never cease to be
because that's because hashem is the
force behind it that's what he says here
mizuo
from the fact that they're lying that
are they that never cease to be
this proves that the force that anna
makes them
is infinite
who leads them and
if you were only to look at the vitality
and energy
that's invested in them cavins
whom mugball since that itself is
limited
should the goof mug bow with it a body
a body the entity of a body is mukbal
within it that's guilty next page 222
bilti mukbal that's infinite
how can a finite being
and goof receive an energy that's
limitless infinity motion can't be
kian rather
you must say
that the highest itself that's animating
we're talking about the highest the
force
the force that's animating the force
itself
is a limited kayak we call this
what the
the power of within god
and the rabbit says
if this were to be the case then the
goof
the limited golf if the energy is
only one that's limited it would become
weaker um and be be
and change the hefstech machinima
that also means that there would be some
interruption
in the flow um
and the fact is the sun comes out every
day and the moon comes out
and it don't look like they're tired and
it doesn't look like they have an
interruption
from doing what hashem wants
they all exist in species
always
what do we mean to say that
even by creatures of below and earth
shaheem they saw them you could say
certain
species are extinct right
right nevertheless
that means so you could say that certain
grace
hippopotamus or buffaloes great
fish certain ones you are extinct you
can't
says that but it's true about the
particular uh
kind but at the overall species
the overall family always exists so yes
let's say let's say that he loves right
right
we don't know we you know i know rabbit
torski over show them and others
um today except they do know because
they found the
the blue but the way it was and the way
most i think you didn't
believe is that we don't know that he
lost no but the
was a fish what happened to this fish
the answer is that the argument is that
this fish is
is extinct you know so you're going to
say that
that fish are extinct no this even if we
accept that
this particular brand is extinct
but the overall species exists that's
what he says
it means you cannot
say that what there's any species
that's completely been nafsat lost
and forgotten and extinct
why do you have shorty i have said
it's only that it's past it's it it
it lends itself to
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the possibility of loss
the lumber ain't and have certainly gone
the
and why aren't they he's asking on
himself did it like
and what he's saying and so but why why
why must we say
that only the the men the particular
brand is lost
but not the overall species but if you
masturbate
and specifically if you look at what the
rambam says
writes that whatever is possible
has been in species
it's impossible that it will not come
so so small is he using the rambam as
a question or as an answer
this is an answer no no
i i know it sounds like an answer no i
think it's part of the question
in other words the rambam is saying
whatever is f shared possibility
a possibility can't also means that it
it could come
it also means it cannot come so
so he says that the rabbi is saying
because that
the rambam in that particular and
and is talking about the limited
energy of hashem and from that
perspective
yes there could be a seization
completely look at the next line
the reason or maybe right maybe maybe
the rambam says that
is asking on the rambam and his answer
is you know why that
says that because the rambam is
referring to not the limited force but
the
infinite force habilty balco that's
limitless
and that's why there never will be a
cessation of the mean
of the species
that ever says and we can understand
this even better
from the heaven and the heavenly hosts
now let's see what he says
the heavens and all these constellations
what's wrong
with the heavenly hosts
they're like they were created they are
today the way they have created
on the first day of creation under their
creation
says these are the offspring of the
heavens and the audits
beyond he bought them and the day they
were created
they are as mighty well
they're as forceful and strong today
as they were when hashem created them
during the six days of creation
how could you say that they are
after all creatures that
are limited and murkoff
is a different idea listen
means it's comprised har cava
when you bring two things together it's
it's comprised right
so he says the nivra migboli
a a the a i'm sorry the the
the uh the constellations and everything
else are
limited it's the sun it's the moon the
sun is not the moon
um they're comprised of two things
a soul and a body meaning there's a
force that makes them tick
and do its job and then there's the
actual fireball
there's the actual moon that's what we
call a goof
it's not a goof like ours right but it's
a goof it's an
entity so since
they have a goof and a nephesh
the f should i have said seemingly
they would be in the category that it's
possible for them to cease to be
because we know that when a person's
soul leaves their body
we know there's an end there's a
cessation to the body
finished
says the verse the verse that we quoted
on the other side at the bottom of 221
ish mayhem loner
there is no lacking nedar hillary you
asked the other day means to lacking
missing
law nedar why
believe she never has a one second
before the y without any change in
interruption whatsoever
so the question is what's how could that
be the answer is
because there is a kayak of
ainsoft of infinity that trend
that sustains them and and makes them be
so that's why i go back and say there's
no contradiction
between saying that from the perspective
of nature
or what we call siddhas the kayak vul
they would cease to be and
simultaneously they won't cease to be
because there's the built-in vuel that
wants them to be
before we continue do you have any
questions on this any
is it clear
yes hillary so we're talking about so
we're talking about it like um
one might say because the physical
phenomena would be
uh in scientific terms subject to
entropy
yes yes the the uh
what they call this the third second law
of thermodynamics that all
all things are subject to entrance these
are sometimes some kind of degradation
that's right that's right but the kayak
ability
is uh is it that's not part of that
equation
and that's what the rambam means
yeah um
have you ever have you ever learned
about this in the rambam
or in uh have you ever heard shiora
about this when you're in yeshiva
anything at all about this concept oh no
not on this not on this topic
i'm not really
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but but but but do you understand the
okay
small ones maybe small has some words to
clarify yes
you mentioned in every part of existence
every item of existence is a physicality
there's also a energy that keeps it in
existence
so it they they both are true
but the physicality is what might be you
know
temporary but the godly existence that's
there
giving it existence is permanent yes but
but
but but small that what the rambam says
and what the fruit of the crab brings
here deposit says
that even the physicality of the species
will
will see won't will always exist
the the the moon and the sun will always
exist because they
have created them it's not just the look
near
him the look of
him is why they will physically exist
that there's a non-seasoning in the
gospels as well
absolutely the the helmet is
that doesn't mean that that the actual
physical
sun will cease to be uh or the moon
no so in other words you could tell me
what you could say is that the
particular brand of fish or
animal within the species
that won't exist that can end
but but but the overall species will
exist so
so you know i i don't know but let's say
the the sun
does three four different things you
could technically argue i'm just
thinking out loud that one of the three
might cease to be but not the sun ball
the sun bowl will always remain
yes yes they talk about different
you know different different sizes of
stunts
they think war and there's uh full spine
and eventually they die out you know but
it takes a
few a few million years
but but but they did they didn't protect
sudden that collapse upon themselves and
they
make black holes and all this stuff
so so you can't say it maybe
you do destroy themselves but the
overall
challenge of your sons will always be
there you'll always
a body of fire in heaven
no i'm gonna weigh you off okay so so
beau i see sun outside now i'm sure you
do too
are we always gonna have sun
uh yeah because because the sun will be
going for a few million years it's
better
a life force because so
so one second so technically if i was
alive at the end of those few million
years
i would not see sun is that what you're
saying
technically yes because there have been
sons
that have collapsed upon themselves and
produced
uh i i i i don't i don't think that's
the
shot in the i i don't think that
that's a tighter view according to what
it says here
ish neda nega
i don't know i'm not a scientist and i
and there's books that written by the
orthodox scientists how to reconcile
this and that
so i i don't i can't speak for the
reconciliation yes
maybe you could say that the fact that
the sun will not
extinguish for several million years is
as good as infinity
it it'll be just as good as infinity
what what what's the
what's the logic's rule to that it's
it's a few million years it's still cool
it's still
liberty it's still hot bala yeah but
well way away before then the ship will
be here
but that's that so it's a nice thought
but it's not the
cycle i don't see the argument the
logical if it's a few million years
it's gr anyway um i think the
i don't know i like the previous and not
only his answer but it says
see this this idea this isn't his
that that from the perspective of the
fool of hashem
it it's it's limited but from the
perspective of the bleakful
that force of hashem which ultimately is
the force that
created and creates the sun and the moon
it'll always be i don't know i think i
think that that that's the that's
that's see this way of reconciling it if
i understand it correctly
so misha what what is it that you're not
following like what are you lost with
i i think that i'm not really you know i
i
in the previous page
when we when we have
the um
so you mentioned about
the person gazing right the lashing is
gazing
yeah he's stackless right
which is a couple lines up now
i think from there i lost the connection
to
how what we're speaking about now oh oh
that's a good question
and the answer is
he says that if you don't gaze which
means
if you just look at the situation from
the outside
we have a problem the world the the moon
the sun and the moon and everything will
end
it should end because the force
that gives it vitality is a limited one
so when the force ends the result of the
force ends
you hear that so how can we
go ahead okay how can we end up the
force if
if the moon the moon
the the sun if the sun receives its
vitality i
see it after the sun because son of you
i guess just think of the sun as a more
observant
active entity okay close to the moon
okay it just feels more static okay
but if we know that
obviously has been um
providing every entity with its with
this koa
to continue to operate
for example the sun so
why would it you know
you say we know we know because we live
in a world where we look god up every
day and we see a sun in the moon
but what what are you saying i'm
thinking more i'm thinking just more of
the lines that we know that obviously a
person
a goof a goof is going to live into no
a goof a good friend
no you know so why won't the sun why
won't why won't the sun end it's a goof
so that's so that's that's that's a good
question
and meaning that's and that's what we're
addressing here and that's what we're
addressing
and what are we that's what the plastic
said and the posix says ish lo
it the and the rep and the river says
the species won't end in other words one
second
the one section the fact that a person
passes on does that mean that humanity
dies
no no no and that's it
so the same way is the same way
there can be a detail within the sun and
the moon and and the constellations that
ends
it's not an end to the overall species
and and and why is that so that ever
adds and that's what he means lestakel
understand that's this is the answer to
your question what's the connection
between this and before
gaze and realize that we're talking
about the kayak
the infinity of god that makes it still
be
if it wasn't the infinity of god there
will be an
there would be an end just like there's
an end to the body
but because just as the body is
associated with atmos essence
and so too the the constellations and
the heavens there and all these all the
things the hosts are are connected to
the
aims of so if god is infinite
ain't soft his results are ain't soft as
well
ish lo nedar
anyway what i suggest about we have a
few minutes
um take out the rambam with an english
translation see what the rambam says
for yourself take out the
the verse is a reference look it up and
see what the commentary say
and this way you'll maybe become a
little more comfortable with
with that whole discussion okay
uh schmoe you wanted to say something
i'm sorry
no what you said because that mankind
was existing but even
beyond that when you look up at this is
what does it mean it means don't take it
for granted
the precision and all the complexity
of physicality how it all fits together
how the sun is exactly where it is
and not closer or further away it it
shows
a infinite intelligence it's amazing
right right
yeah yeah yeah okay
we'll continue tomorrow um uh i felt we
needed to dial up this and
talk it out you know just to rush to say
words this is important to to
to go back and forth hila yes
yeah i just wanted to say that i think
that this whole subject is really sort
of a
for just a discussion all of its own
because it really uh buck truce is a
sort of a a place where the torah
and scientific method really um
sometimes they understand they really
can
converge and can dialogue
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yeah i mean but you know it's
i know that when i was yeshiva was
always you know if we had a real
scientist who was from who could talk
about this and explain
it was it was fascinating because you
know yeah
just like moises you know saying and
like he's not aware of this whole he
never learned it you know when
we also really never learned it you know
this is uh
we're amateurs i'm an amateur you know
you need to really be
uh seasoned and uh and there are
select people i mean the rapper part of
his genius was that he was
he knew science and he was able to
dialogue and frankly not everyone agreed
with his answers
i i once spoke to dr abraham ben abraham
who i don't know if i hope he's still
alive and there's his role
i i met him and and i spoke to him and
then there's the one from barry long
very nice professor phd i forget his
name now
spoke to him too you know they they said
they respected the rebel but they
disagreed with some of his uh
his conclusions and approaches so i'm
just saying that
you know it it lends itself for for a
wide discussion like you were saying
hilo you know
but you you really need did you ever
have go ahead what did you ever have a
chance to
um to follow up i told you that uh that
um
story of the rapper uh and this
scientist that my friend andy goldfinger
told me um i did i mean
i think i think uh i reached out then
when he reached out to me yeah i think
so
okay you did okay great because he's one
of those people who's able uh
in the subjects that he's um familiar
with particularly uh
quantum physics and uh he's a he works
for
for uh for nasa jet propulsion lab
and his name is andy goldfinger andy
goldfinger
yeah yeah and he's out in baltimore he's
in baltimore right
right yeah he's in baltimore yeah okay
bellinette that we have to follow up
maybe one day he can give us the
lectures
i guess everyone have a great day
everyone tomorrow
bye bye thank you thank you bye-bye