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Mossad #2- Former Mossad head, Yossi Cohen, childhood, education & more- RC Dalfin
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So you were in the six day war also in
you were fighting. Of course
you you
fought but the six day war you were
fighting in Jerusalem by the cotel.
Yeah. Tella,
you were the youngest soldier.
You knew uh Natanya's brother uh not
Bibby you knew his brother who died in
NBI was
killed
me Jonathan
Netanyahu. Yeah. Betalia. A for
betalia. Katam.
You were a teacher.
You became a banker.
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He was a banker in in bank of uh bank of
Misrai and over there you made other
branches.
Yes. And uh how many children did you
have? Two children.
Yi. And who else?
was named after your grandfather. No, my
grandfather was named. Yeah. So, you
named your your son after that
grandfather?
Okay. And Yoshi was named after the
other one. My father. After your father?
My father was Yoshi.
When did your father
Yseph Mayor. Ysef Mayor, right? I saw
Mayor was Mina's brother. Her name is
Mina. Mina.
Mina's brother was Mayor Mayor.
He He was killed
when in a in a in a train accident. Yes.
He in here in Arisro.
Uhhuh. What year? What year? 19 1955.
Okay, whatever. She doesn't hear. Okay.
Oh, when was your son Yosi born? Yseph,
when was he born? He's asking.
Uhhuh. And he was named after your
brother. He says Yseph. Yosi. Ysef.
Mayor. Mayor. Mayor. Mayor was your
brother. Ysef was his father. Yes. Yes.
And Mayor was your brother. And he was
killed in a in a train accident. He said
we're here in Israel. Yeah. Military.
A mil. What year? A car with a train.
Oh, like this. Terrible.
He was
20. Almost
22. At 22. Yeah. What? Which in which
city was this? Where did this happen?
Where? Where?
There is a a big train station
and the car went into the train. Okay.
Well, he has someone who's named after
him that's doing a lot of important did
a lot good things for Israel, your son.
Yes. He was born three days after died.
He was he was cafe.
Right.
Right. So how do you feel about your son
having such a position that he had? How
do you feel?
[Laughter]
Okay. I'm a cloud. Did you did you think
he would reach this level when he was a
a young a boy when he was a teenager?
No. Was he a good student?
Very good. He was a very good student.
Yes. Both both of them. Both of them
were good students. She was a teacher.
But he learned only only what he want.
Only what he wanted. Only what was
interesting. aha those those subjects
that he didn't like he didn't he didn't
like he didn't was in the class even
right
he always choose what he liked
I read I don't know if it's true but I
read that Bib Nao
said this is what it says on the
internet that after when he retires he
wants Yoshi to take over his place then
people is that true is that ZT can but
but After baby said it, people opened
their mouth and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
This is jealousy. Jealousy.
You you you started a a Misrai branch, a
bank in in London. Yes. Bank Muhammadi.
Bankra. Yes. And what do you mean they
came with you? What do you mean they
helped you make it? Oh, the children.
Yeah.
Mhm. Come
to come to
Wow. of all the branches.
Not all the but many branches. Many
branches. That's about
17 18
18 or it's 80 18 18
and I opened a
school to Oh, for to to improve the
imported what? To improve
the the banking. Banking. Yes. Oh, you
opened a school a banking school? Yes.
Mhm.
Now tell me um were you did you have did
you ever have
issues threats because of your son's
work? Did they anyone like threat? Were
you had to be protected or never? No. At
first we didn't know exactly that he's
there. You didn't know? No. Nobody know.
Nobody knows. Well, what what what did
he tell you he's doing when you asked
him? What are you doing? He doesn't want
to. He works.
Yeah. But Mustamba, you understood that
he's working for the Mossad.
Yes. I asked
him, tell me, how did they come to you?
Right. What made them come to you? Come
to
you
said you
because of you. Because of me. Is that
true?
Yeah.
Whereon
in London. You had a a Madon. Okay.
What's a MON? Madon is a club. A club of
all people from from Israel, managers of
banks,
important uh business. Yeah. Thanks. And
I asked somebody
there, do you have a work for my son?
Hi was a
teacher and he he learned I
sent and his wife he was very very
young and
uh I I wanted to
give let him work
something. I paid them everything the
tuition. Yes.
But so I I think I'm not sure. The man
that I asked for, he said, "What can he
do?" I said, "I can do everything. What
do you want? Whatever you need, he can
do." He can do even
security.
Okay. And I think so. I'm not sure.
Right. This is what you you think this
is how it happened. Anyway, they called
them.
recording and
then it was a
right. It was
in in all Europe.
Very nice.
But you but again at what point did you
find out that he's working for the
Mossad? At what point?
I I didn't know exactly what it was. He
didn't say right. Nobody knows about
it. But all the friends
in you see will be the master his his
friends his friends. They knew that that
the the type of person he is and type of
mind and everything else that he will
one day be the head. Yes. So was
now such a person has security around
him the whole time, right? Yes. He has
bodyguards. He has people that all the
time. All the time. Even today or or
today already? No. Today? No. No. Today?
No. He's He was retired. Retired.
Retired. Yes. And it seems like he did
an excellent job. Yes. From what I read,
I don't think that another one was like
him. Yeah. I from what I could read I
think he was
like clean clean and very respected.
What does he do today? So what does he
do today? He's young. He's my age. He's
young. He's young. Yes. He's
doing business. A business. Many
business on the world. Every week is
another place in the world.
So he's what? He lives in near you. No.
Mad. Mad. Right. Right. And is so good
son. He wants me Mina and me. We have
nobody here in
Jerusalem. All the families out of
Jerusalem. Right. So he wants to move
you.
Yes. That we will come to him to come
live by him. To him to stay with him.
All the shabases. All the Shabbases. He
wants you to come to stay by him. But
you can couldn't do it. We did a lot of
time. Yeah. But it's too hard every
time. I understand. Yes. Um but but but
my what I was asking before is did once
it became known that he's the head of
the Mossad, did did you get protection?
You and your wife? No. No.
You never had any issues? No. We didn't
say anyone. Right. Nobody knows. No one
know. Yeah. today. Today from when he
became it became
public, but you never had any you see.
You want to show me something? Be
careful. Careful. Careful.
Careful. Please.
Yeah.
One second. One second.
What are you showing me?
until it's