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Misleading Arguments
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Kuntres U'Maayan #24
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today is your dal with kislev the rebels
anniversary in the rebecca so we say
mazatov not just to them but ourselves
because at sadiq and zadekis
are part of the jewish people
the inspiration for the jewish people
and if it's their
money in it has a relevance to us
so muscle tough to each and every one of
you for your anniversary
now we're on page 193 we'll read the kit
sir
they're our shop yesterday really what
what i'm sorry we're in page 189 in the
kitchen
what
we started yesterday the mimer the third
oh you're right
you're right i'm sorry oh i'm sorry wait
a minute wait a minute
oh so actually we we finished the mimer
yesterday i'm sorry
okay okay so on page 189
thank you i could we can always rely on
moshe to give us the right place
beautiful anyway
i like that i like how my students are
sharp
and they they catch their teacher by
mistakes it's good
alcopon in yesterday gave us a heavy
dose
at least i think it's a heavy dose of
musser and we needed to hear it
and hopefully we will walk away and
learn something from it so let's see
what he says in the kitchen
how he recaps it
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yesterday
enough a man by nature
is fearful that his friend
that another person should not know
about his
matters
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including in that is his
bad behavior yaakov i made a mistake
we're starting now
with the 13th mimer i apologize i gave
you the wrong information in a moment
but read right now we're reading the
kinser
at the end of the twelfth mimer okay
maida shramayam commander boss of adam
the rabbit brought the rasha brought the
kamura
at least one should have as as much fear
as one has for a human being
for hashem
man through his speech and his movements
to us of his movements
megala he reveals a boy
the deep evil and bad that he has within
him if he has that within him
your speech and your and your
body movements be speak
that ugly behavior that ugly condition
is you want to hide you think you're
doing it in private i'm going to
publicize it your herp or your shonda
publicly
the yetzer hara through his
his quickness his alertness is his
rushing
mecabul
he receives the stusm of the yetzer
horror
um and
he convinces man that no one will find
out and you could do whatever you want
let's go now to 191
mimer you'd gimmel paid it off
the rabbit continues that shop has not
finished his psychological analysis of
this condition
more so another ill
evil of of a sickness that a malady that
one has
mashua
very familiar we're always right in
hebrew we call that
whatever i do i no it
it can't be a syndicate it's ex come on
i'll explain it to you
man by nature whatever the matter is
good or bad
pain initial deus whether it be um
opinions bain in your shell medicine
whether it be in character issues and
conduct
beijing
whether it's matters between men and
another person like they know
unlocks me whether they're matters
between one and one self
image he knew who taylor me actually
likes me
if the issue is a good thing he says i
get credit for it
it's because of me i'm the big i'm the
greatest gift to mankind since the slice
of cheese
but if it is something that is evil in
bed
he knew it taylor and the yakuza gossip
it's my fault my fault
it's my friend's fault it's my parents
fault
it's my rabbi's fault it's my
grandmother's fault
it's everyone else's fault except me
says that ever the condition is
self-indulgence
self-love self-pity
because by nature we love ourselves who
comes first without
refining ourselves the self i want
what's best for me i want to pleasure
myself
i want to feel good everyone else take a
take takes a second
seat second opinion second idea anyway
so therefore so he says
one's
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he doesn't feel at all that he is guilty
of this act
elohim he says i'm actually right for
doing it
i'm actually right now am i not guilty i
need to do it this way and he explains
why
next paragraph
harbor yoga's immaturity within him
causes him to do certain things
it's also true that bad friends
cause him to do things and that evidence
says look most
when they come together his immaturity
and his bad friends that this is so
interesting because we have this today
with a lot of the youth
either if the friends influence them or
they're immature
or if you get a if you get a good two
punch you get to both about
the best of both worlds where it's both
together and then you're really in
trouble
because they don't have the cycle they
don't have the maturity
just to realize what's going on here is
so so bad and detrimental for oneself
so i decide they're like babies like
they're immature right
and by the way it could be an old man of
being mature in a certain issue
so the immaturity aspect and
the friend and the friends you have the
influences
and i want to go into this but sometimes
you have people who end up
in bad relationships breaking
relationships and it's because of
friends
you have to be very careful with what
you share with friends even people who
are your real good friends
but if they have a certain sheet that's
a certain opinion
about a certain area that's not torah
not
and and they're going to they're going
to tell you
you know you shouldn't be in this
relationship but you should be and on
and on
you have to be very careful to discern
even with a friend what you tell them
and especially and not only what you
tell them if you even if you share it
with them which not only should you
share everything
to follow what they say not just because
they're a friend or frankly even if
they're your rabbi
or teacher it has to be looked at very
carefully
now you'll say what i mean if here's
rabbi if the rabbi says so and so isn't
he basing it on tata
that's i don't want to go into that that
discussion because it's a whole
it opens up a whole discussion you know
someone went by the rebel once the
rebels spoke about making mushpm you
know i say look
rav never came out with a campaign i
think in 1986 everyone should get
themselves mashipia
but someone went by the rebel for
dollars
and he said something to the rebel the
episode like you know who told you to do
this
he said my mashpier the rabbi said get
yourself another spear
so you know you're going to say oh
they'll bother you up in those batteries
i like to take it at face value
sometimes you must be it gives you bad
advice
it's not the advice for you it's the
advice of someone else
and because he doesn't take the time or
doesn't have the time to discern
and really look careful at your
situation he gives us
advice that he gave to someone else and
it's not it's not for you
so every situation has to be taken
carefully so why do i say this because
we learn here in the mind
about bad friends bad influence so it
brought them
to mind this idea what is a bad friend
mean only someone who
who says bad things is no it could be
someone who's really a good genuine
friend of yours but nevertheless
they they either don't know you that
well or they don't know the situation
that well
and therefore their advice and this
situation doesn't apply
and one shouldn't feel i can't be the
friend afterwards
you know the feed the cadaver writes his
famous mimer which i think we learned
once ibrahimovic
1924 where he speaks about the three
steps
for giving criticism very important
reminder
1924 and one of the things that he says
this is
there is if a person who gives criticism
and the person
is upset that the person who the
criticism was given to
even a spouse even a friend etc
they don't listen to what the what you
say what you say
and you it bothers you then you are not
genuinely giving criticism and you
shouldn't give the criticism
because it shows that that it shows that
you have an agenda and if you have an
agenda you're in no position of giving
criticism
and this is a very very important thing
that when you when when we give
criticism we should be genuine
how you genuine you should be a
genderless it
needs to be the mango indian le mano
not because it touches me a certain way
or touches my kids a certain way
or touches my community you know the
famous argument don't go outside this
way because everyone is going to
speak about us now
i i'm not i'm not of those that you know
poo poo that completely
i don't because there is a concept
called minigame the
customs of the place and one needs to be
respectful at the same time
we need to explain that we don't do it
because of others
we do it because of hashem because
what's right and what's wrong in
hashem's eyes
now notwithstanding that there is a
community
and and and we should be respectful of
the community so they don't have to be
mutually exclusive in fact they can go
well hand in hand the rebber for example
they say that when he went into his room
his room his little room there in 770
where he died where he learned and you
know there all day working
and learning and answering people's
letters and having
this there when he had yojitas and all
that he would take his kapot and his hat
off right away after minha he would go
into me
mint was 3 15 3 30 minutes of finish he
would go right back into his office
and he was like take us take it off
right when he came out he came out with
a hat and a jacket
there was a certain way that that he
that he that he felt that he needs to
appear before
people so you know
i'm just saying i'm just saying there is
a sensitivity that ever spoke once a
fabrega i remember about
the korean god the garments of the
korean goddamo and he made the point
that the coin godu
had garments specifically for the way he
appeared in in public
because he's the korean god the job
warrants and requires a certain type of
dress
when you're not on the job meaning when
you're in your own chambers
and you're not in the public's eye you
don't have to dress that way of course
you still dress near some
and and like i mentioned all that but so
i'm just saying that when we talk about
hawaii
we must know that that um
the issue so let's go back to the text
because it's very interesting so he says
so what if he had if it's immaturity
and it's the bad friends or both that
cause them to do the
the the the bad behavior and have the
the the
the warped opinions
will be asked me ocean possession of
he is guilty of choosing such a
community and such bad friends
now here comes the argument my parents
moved here
territory when i was too young to say no
and i don't like it here and i don't
want to be part of this culture
the dilemma with the teenagers inherits
his throat and there's some truth to
that
they were too young to object to the
parents moving there
so you know but here we're talking about
a situation that's not like that
the situation is where alabama is
he is guilty of
swivel
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all he has to do the one who's doing
these things
is find some kind of fault with others
stems from one thing self-love i
must justify what i'm doing so i will
always find justification
why because i love myself so much what
do you mean i love myself so much
in other words the idea of going against
the grain
making yourself uncomfortable that it's
not the way
it's so unnatural that's what the river
says
it's so unnatural for man to do that but
yet that's what hashem wants
so the rabbit's saying here that this
condition that we're identifying here
is normal
it's teva but yet it's not an excuse
because we are guided by toyota so
that's interesting
so in other words let's say let's say
for a girl a non-jew
who doesn't have this mission there's
nothing wrong for him to justify his
existence and
and to want to you know be comfortable
at all times
for a yid it's not about self it's about
hashem
that's what he says here let's continue
says that every now in this detail
even bali chuva who've done chuva
make a mistake
although there they are with complete
regret
for the no good that they did it
previously she also should
be whether they did or they spoke or
maksha voice of
or the thoughts that they have in hurry
and the bad thoughts
and they have real regrets
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and they cry with the frustration and
bitterness of the heart
inside they're broken i you know and i
do chuva
i hate what i did i was wrong i didn't
know and that's it hashem forgive me and
you go on
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he says nevertheless what did they walk
away with
i didn't know any better so what i did
is not my fault so they're being mastic
assassinate
they're justifying and making themselves
correct
well might see comma separate
do you mind immuning yourself please
they find
all kinds of excuses
to hang their
son i was this i was that i was here i
was there
here's another excuse i'm hot-headed
i'm hot blooded by nature
what does it say i'm a type a i'm a type
b and a type c
and a type d all the excuses
so what do you want from me i was born
that way from my mother's womb
i get very excited i get very angry i
get this i get that
here's this part the argument the excuse
since i am
i'm boiling i'm by nature
i'm a moroccan the moroccans are
hot-headed
what do you want that's the culture
sorry i hope i didn't find anyone who
has a moroccan wife
if you were relatives but you know what
i'm saying
emotions overtake the person
his heart becomes on fire heat it up
and it can't stop himself from being
angry
or speaking or thinking inappropriate
thoughts
the kind of minds of boyle he can't he
can't stop himself from
doing that we did have the discussion
yesterday moshe right the charlatan not
the show the detroister
i was born into a family of schneisters
my father was a shyster my grandfather
was a shyster
go back to europe go back here i'll show
you like
i traced it so what do you want from me
it's in my blood
you know we're saying yiddish
what do you want from me loving was my
grandfather
they say what's worse than a
anar and i was a fool an
alterna an old fool
you know it's enough that i'm a fool but
an alternative that my father and
grandfather were fools
or that i became an alternate when you
were young you were now you're a fool
okay
you remained a gnar even when you're 75
my gosh
that's really work bad you know so here
we're talking about a situation where a
person will justify
so here we're talking about about truva
every one of us in our trooper
but we we look back and we say the
reason i did that is because
i was raised in such a climate i come to
such a parent to such a community such a
rabbi
such culture and such a finances says
that ebb it's all excuses
all excuses and it has to bother you to
to to come to a place where
you don't justify what you did because
of the excuses
let's continue
ever says we're talking about someone
not you see we're talking about someone
who knows better
motion not someone who doesn't know he
knows it's forbidden to do a and bc
whatever it is
he destroys his soul and does it anyway
and that ever says that sometimes his
behavior weakens his body he's talking
about all kinds of
probably sexual indulgences and things
like that
or even eating whatever whatever
whatever the issue is
eating drink unhealthy food grace
fast foods
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so why doesn't he stop himself if you
know you're getting sick why don't you
stop yourself because
he can't control the heat of his body
the passion
the boiling anger well upon me next page
in a
193 who taylor colleen you know russia
lay brazil
here's another excuse the rashtraba is
is is is like
creeping into our mind and giving us you
know what people use as excuses
what's the next excuse that he says
he says share my friend it's my friend
kiploini
veto my friend convinced me
my friend who i like it's so bright he
convinced me
and he taught me and he this and he that
over asked me but i myself
well i also can't i wouldn't do it but
because i have such a good friend who's
so smart
and so good and so genuine and he told
me that this is a good investment
and and you just have to sign and just
have to lie a little bit and do this and
that
and no one will know therefore i did it
so what
so so so this is an interesting
paragraph that
starts off saying it speaks in the
beginning
here in other words he's talking he's
talking about
people who've done trouble for whatever
the the issue is
nevertheless they they they look back at
what they did and they said i was
justifying doing it
says that ashab that's a mistake
even if you you've done truth fine but
the justification that what you did then
that you say is right and good that's
your mistake
and he tells us why that was that was
the emphasis in this paragraph next
paragraph
the ms
is not sure means his excuses
with he repeats it's really only because
of one thing he fools himself
self-love
this is the cause why he
he he he he justifies himself it boils
down to one thing
i love myself it's all about me me
me and me that's what it's about
well what about the argument that we
mentioned that it's my boiling blood
and it's my nature and i was born that
way ain't a tiny bahamas
it's not really a truthful argument
why
is where does it come from from the
animal drive
that's full of passion
which can overpower the natural soul
the zettacles and that's why you we were
created by allah i mean on this
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and have it overpower the the natural
soul you'll notice
it's interchangeable here yaakov between
the words nephesh activists
and nepheshabami's
okay because the nefesh habamis
is the teva other
when we say that a jew is never shall
the kiss is the shama that we mean that
the exam and his essence
but outside of his essence what drives
man the nephesh obama is the nephew
shativis
if not for this avodah
to subjugate the natural derives the
natural
soul we would not
be created at all hashem
doesn't need mr einstein
guess what he doesn't need us
he wants us for one perspective he has
enough smart angels and souls and
celestial beings
if he wants smart he can get him over
there
that's why by the way the altered rep in
chapter 36 in tanya when he talks about
why was the world created and it gives
the reason to make a deer but
an abode for hashem on earth so the
rabbit
this rabbit in his mind of rosh hashanah
of 19
of um 1905
which in hebrews tophra islam above
known in khabad as the famous
series of my murderer known as hemsheikh
samarva so in the first mimer there
he discusses what the ariza brings in
is brought the idea of taimei habria
reasons for creation
and he brings three reasons and one of
the reasons this begins
he brings this what says begin
why did god create the world because he
wants us to know him
and the reason on this reason is this
really the reason why god created
the world to know him who who knows god
better
us or the angels the angels
who knows us hashem better us or the
souls as they are
on high who knows hashem better the
celestial beings who are
who are pure compared to what we go
through of course they
so how can desire say that the reason
why
hashem created the world is we should
know him
so that ashab is mosby in that mind a
very important reminder
rashaab says that it is a reason but
it's not the ultimate reason you're
innocent you remember learning this
you're eating some baits baits you
remember learning the reasons
hello um
no i
that it is a reason because the zoya
says it's a reason right
hello but it's not the ultimate reason
what is the ultimate reason
islamic chapter 36 in tanya god wants to
have a home here
get get started get working why
it's a taivo it's a spiritual lust
and as the language of the altar is
nick kanekasha
when it comes to a sp an infatuation
you can't ask why why are you infatuated
because i'm crazy i don't have a reason
i'm just infatuated
hashtag i'm at a spiritual infatuation
to create the world and say
right here he wants us to do mixes he
wants us to make up a place for him
why the whole question
why doesn't begin in the world of
infatuation
the whole question why begins in the
world of reasoning
including in the in the world of the
reasoning that what god wanted this
world so we should appreciate him
so they're out there ashab says so in
the world of reasoning
the reason that the eight's higher gives
that god created the world for the
purpose that we should know him here
is a good reason but that's already the
world of reason
when you go beyond you transcend the
world of reason
that's not a reason because reasoning
doesn't make sense there so
so what what is it he had a tiger yes
yaakov
says if we weren't busy with all that um
uh billion and and making this world and
we be
falling into a virus that's what keeps
us out of trouble
oh yeah to respond to that would take
another half hour that
that is not but briefly
hashem didn't make a world to keep us
out of a virus
he had that already with the angels what
he needs us for
if that's the reason he had it already
again and first of all it does in the
eighth highest it doesn't mention that
at all
that's not one of the reasons given the
it's high-end there's three three
reasons that's not
one of them but even if we were to argue
that
uh some race we could find the source
for that and and maybe we can
but that's not the old that's not the
ultimate reason because the same
question that ashab
asks on the zohar on the beginning
that ashab would ask on this too
and then there's another section another
another there's more to elaborate to
answer your question but i don't want to
do it right now let's continue
so the shop says is
i i got off on this tangent because he
says here look at the line the lulu
is
it were not for the avodah that were
charged
to subjugate our natural self
avi we wouldn't be created at all
la jolla never cloud no one needs us
god doesn't need us to just
be a flute and tootin intellectual and
and you know he wants us to work and to
change ourselves
to change the way you know that there's
a famous is a famous um
var to the previous rebel and the
obeying that the whole purpose of
hasidis is
is to change your natural needles
there's two things
there's me this tivium there's there's
there's uh natural middles and there's
the nature of needles
it's two separate things natural middles
are like the the behavior that is
that is not refined then there is
refined hate behavior but if you're
accustomed to it and you're
and it's your norm you have to change
that itself
and that's why dalton ever says in the
chapters give me a second abby one
second
that's why dalton ever says in chapter
15 and tanya
according to gemara that if you learn
only a hundred times the section of the
gomura
you review it but you don't hazard it
one hundred and one times as they alter
that but the gemara quotes it
you're a vivid you're not an avid hashem
you're not a servant you're a loyal
why because in those days dr deb
explains the custom wants to learn
everything a hundred times
so learning the things of a hundred
times you didn't break your nature
that's that's normal
one more time just one time more
but it's breaking your nature oh
then you consider the servant yes avi
yeah so i hear that we have self-love we
justify
and we have to with gabe overcome
our animal nature and uh
and cling to our uh holy nature
but this the the it doesn't seem to be a
delineation
of the steps of the house to mid gabe
you know like good person wants to lose
weight he has
to walk a half hour a day three times a
week it's just a how
okay so a we have to read we have to
continue seeing what the rashop says
maybe he'll tell us and if not we'll
we'll we never talk about it because
this is full of what of you're full of
many many pages answering your question
but
you're right in your observation let's
continue
so he says
you see that this is what i told you
earlier
there are plenty of angels that serve
god with loving god and fearing god
willing to be bitter then they're
constantly in a subservience to hashem
so why was man created ella the answer
is
and what if the person is so hot-headed
and so passionate so hot-blooded
that the person even this argument that
we just used
to subdue the person's nephesha bombings
doesn't work this doesn't work
says you know what my friends if you
really are in touch with your nephew's
yellow kiss
it has stronger clothes to overpower the
mesh
and it has the ability to control your
natural
based on the camel's strength is
its load
all right it's heavy it's heavy but this
is the truth
hashem gives each and every one of us an
avoider and sometimes
it's so heavy it's so hard we have to be
much hazard
ourselves and knowledge hashem
says you have something that no one else
has
and you can do it and the other person
can't do it
and that's why you have it and i have it
and the other person doesn't have it
that ever writes that i've explained in
when the soldiers that were that were
injured in the yom kippur war
came to new york to tour and they made a
stop
they wanted to be in 7-7 they meet the
rebel they ever spoke to them
the rabbit said that you shouldn't be
called
um what's the word
injured um
the injured in the influence of israel
thereby said
you are mitsuya israel you're the most
excellent of israel and the rabbit did
not just say it to make them feel good
he went around to explain
i'll be kabula mamas you have to see the
sikha
how in fact this is the mitsuyuu and
what is it
based on his grandfather's great
grandfather
writes and therefore and you could learn
it yourself and check it out
with the tsam it says someone who was in
it was invalid to be a cohen in the
basement because he had a blemish
really comes from a higher place
but the r is so high that it cannot find
comfort in this world so it comes out in
a blemish
what do we understand from this
that that whether we ourselves are
blemished you know we have a we have an
injury
or whether we have a child with an issue
or whether we have a friend with an
issue
and all that etc that's a slikhaas it's
a mission
it's an opportunity again
to wish for these things it's against
the toyota but
if from on high hashem gives it to you
then it's for you to work with in a
positive way
and not like some people out here say
get rid of the kid why should you
suffocate at the whole family because of
this one
child islam there's a shita
from rebels from rebels i don't want to
go into it now because it
really irks me in a bad way
where they'll advise parents to
institutionalize their
their child because it's going to be a
shame when they have to go for
for shidduchim on and on i'm not saying
you know sometimes sometimes there is
validity
for institutionalization you know i
understand
but that's the reason that's the reason
yes are you talking about situations
like if you have a down syndrome
yes sort of thing i've heard about cases
yes yes
yes and not just babies hillel
teenagers
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yeah it's uh it's uh it's it seems to be
an astonishing inconsistent
i i i i i you know it it's it goes so
deep that you know i don't want to talk
about it
it's too emotional um
it's interesting that i've used the word
rashford very interesting
look what he says look what he says here
yoni
and since one was born with this
passion and hot bloodedness and anger
that he's able to overcome i i it's very
interesting to me this i just
this language is tama before he brings
the gemara reform
goblet based on the the the donkey
the load is based on the donkey's back
the ability to carry
implying that this is the way it is why
does he why does he use the word the
stamina here i don't know but that's
what he uses here
but one thing's for sure from what we
learned now we'll finish with this
is that a yid must know that whatever
challenges you have
in our life it's it's an opportunity
it's an opportunity that that's it okay
and those that and i'm telling you those
that are able to that take that and and
work with it
succeed it doesn't mean to say you know
the illness is going away and the
problem's going away
no okay let's not be you know
i mean neighbors that can do everything
and we'll do everything but
but the question is how do you go
through life
how do you deal with it with a loss
hospital
how do you deal with a covet we've been
speaking about this for months
how do you deal with this issue
you know i mean you know i'm reminding
myself now this week
last year i told you i was in warsaw and
then i went on to moscow
and today i was communicating with some
people from moscow about something that
i need to know about whatever from
something i'm writing and i'm reflecting
on it
wow what a year
i just was standing over there in varsha
and then i went to my mother's where she
was born in makov
and then to my grandmother's uh school
that she had her
wedding in and the rabbi and i know the
rabbis family out here in borough park
great grandchildren and all that and and
what
and here we are a year later
i walked down 13th avenue i'm sure you
have it all over
it's sad it's so breaks to heart
businesses are closed
for sale signs for rent signs it's a
mess
so the fun game
and if you orient yourself to that
you'll be happier
you you you'll be more successful and
you will do things maybe including
reorienting your business practices
and and you know and adjusting
sometimes we get stuck in a certain rut
you know and you need to excuse the
expression a kick in the pants
well hashem gave us a very big kick in
the pants this year with the
pandemic okay and now take that kick
and and turn it around to be an aide
for us kevin have a great day
lehigh to everyone we should only have
simchas we'll see everyone tomorrow
zagrez andre
layman to your father
bye