Maamar Zochor 1934 #20 - Seeing it all vs hearing only partially - Keep Momentum Going

we're still in the mimer zachary page 148 bottom of the page yesterday we learned a beautiful muscle of a robin automata teacher and his student and what the proper way of being a student is and that is that the idea that your teacher teaches you becomes one with you in hebrew the word used as saying siddhis those that went to upon should know this nifal right you know it has become part of you there is etsy it's you nita sem something made it become part of you and what is it in this case that you're completely subservient to listening to the teacher to hearing what the teacher has to say not thinking at the time when you hear your teacher speak what is my teacher saying how do i filter it all that is a contradiction to the first step of being a macabre and there as i said in the future earlier there are different steps three or four steps in in in the proper uh procedure and progress in receiving information for the information to come in properly to be filtered properly to be digested properly and to be used properly now let's go how the to the bottom of the to the last few lines where it explains how this is relevant to the discussion on hand here about or within the two aspects of hasaga haska so we are now um the zell won the four four lines in the bottom the third word the zelda seijo the saga protest this idea is found in a specific idea in misasimi love are does one become one with the idea or not oh come on for example welcome circle mccain just that this is true regarding a specific idea juventus or indian house we mentioned earlier there's two concepts there is the comprehension of the mind and there's the mind's eye which we call the ear it's so clear to you that the mind's eyes it's like you see it in front of you so we made a difference between the depth of via of seeing something vis-a-vis the mind's eye or just understanding it so the epic says that what we said earlier about nisa so clarify for us the virtue of riya over hasaga and he says grasps the essence when you look at something even if you don't understand it you know what you just saw the entire thing now now what does it mean you saw the entire thing is there something behind this thing that you saw yes but it's all encapsulated in what you saw so the first moment of from the first moment of seeing it you saw it all now the question is whether you understand it all but you saw it all next line fahasoga comparatively speaking conversely when it comes to understanding something what you understand is only the extension of the issue and not the essence of the issue because in understanding it's my mind with my opinion that intervenes and interprets what i'm understanding whereas in seeing something eve and even the seeing of the mind's eye over there it's not an interpretation i see it so true my when you see something you have less understanding than when you understand something but what you see is the entire thing i.e the essence whereas when you understand you only understand the extension or what he calls here the hispashtut and this is the virtue which the ear has over hasaga in other words now in many my muram you we talk about the virtue of understanding over just seeing in other words we have two things right we have eyes that see and ears that hear we identify seeing with the eyes we identify hearing with the ears each has to have a virtue over the other and that's why both complement each other and make a healthy person and and hashem says i want both to be functioning in the human being because through both you get everything okay so we need to understand what's the difference between seeing something and understanding something so that ebb explains here albeit briefly but the rev explains here that the virtue of seeing is you get the entire thing i see it that's it in other words i mean let me say it this way say what you see you also understand will you see any more of what you see even even even if you understand it no it's not changing i see your face you see my face that's it yesterday a conservative rabbi said i look like a santa claus i said i'm proud i like my beard she said maybe you come here to prep during the holidays i don't want to tell her i don't celebrate that rabbi wearing a little yarmulke okay fine yes and we're gonna make her we're gonna make them more interested in the jewish experience through abba and akhtus but what's my point she sees me and she saw the picture behind me of the river and before i went on to the zoo for this meeting i said to myself they're going to see the picture should i take it away i said no this is who i am this is my this is my rebel you want to ask me go ahead and then yeah and they asked me am i a magicist am like this i'm like that and then we were best friends a half an hour later when you see a picture you see all of the all of the person you don't understand she saw the picture that but she saw my my face hey wait a minute we're talking about doing some programs that may be using a facility a social hall i'm gonna let you with your big beard come into my social hall so then i spoke and spoke and explained and she asked and the president was on and at the end you know this is not a bad idea let's see if we can make it work that came from dialogue but what she saw is what she's gonna get she's getting this beard and she's getting that rabbi that ain't changing it doesn't mean i'm pushing it into her face and doesn't mean i'm gone um you know but in other words if they if they agree to this idea they know what they're getting and and and we were very open that's the virtue of seeing understanding is in a sense secondary i should in other words it's true in this scenario if all she would have gotten is the seeing she would have said i don't want this big beard in this rabbi and forget it we're not doing business together once she saw what she's getting and i explained what she's getting and that that i'm not a threat to them and she was able they were able to dialogue and question and now they're going to think about it and then you know and see if it could work itself out either it can or again the point being the point being that the dialogue is the hassaga what she saw is that the ear so the ears you get all of it yes phillip so we said that her saga was a um was a function of bina if i'm remembering correctly right yes so perhaps another way of saying this uh this this idea is that uh just as the fazal define bina as lahavin davar mitokdabar we understand one thing from with from another from within another so that we could say hasaga is like understanding something in its context or in perspective to to what it is so if you just see something um this happens to me often you know i'll see some shape or something like that at a distance i won't know what it is and then uh and then all of a sudden i'll figure it out in context um it's a park bench it's a it's a box it's whatever and that's a function of a saga that's a function of a saga correct but but but i i want to mention to you that here we were talking about the aspect of hasag as it exists in overall hassagas bina but we learned earlier in the mimer that there's also two aspects to but overall yes let's leave it for the simple the simple more simple way that has been maisha you following yeah thank you okay avrom you with me yeah the way i would understand it right by dolphin is that uh saga is the initial part of bina it's like transitioning from hakama into bena the ability to find that aspect even more so come to you understand it i didn't hear the last last part of your sentence what after the transitioning it leads into bina but then once it's interpreted it gets more defined like a yeah you get it right okay but but all of that's called hasaga comprehension development okay but i i want to know if you all follow the virtue of seeing even the mind's eye seeing that you get the whole picture although you don't understand the picture and that and that's a very that's a very important yeah what i mean you say see the whole picture if you don't you don't understand so meaning you see the car you see the entire car that you know that's on the street or parked in the parking lot but you don't know you know it's a car and you know that it drives and takes you from point a to point b but you don't know how the engine works you don't know how the internal combustion works you don't know how the transmission exactly works right powertrain axle correct different components right but but moisture after say you're a mechanic or you went or you read up about it then now you know has that changed any of has what you saw before been expanded no the picture's not getting any bigger the same car you will see after you understand it or before you understand it why because go ahead i mean yes it's the same car it's the same car it's the same paint job same hubcaps tires yeah i mean you but you you perhaps you appreciate it that's that's that's that's a different vert appreciation comes from hasaga you're right when you understand something better you appreciate it more but but but listen to this appreciation goes along with compromise i appreciate them more because i for me i understand it give me an example like that's a very something just came into my mind we have a certain way of ours okay there are some people that they're not interested in this they want to just learn text and and heavy stuff uh a cabal exit is and and and and make with the finger this way and the piece you know and and the talmud and all that they're not interested in stories and psychology and character issues and dialogue it doesn't talk to them so so in other words in other words the the dialogue and understanding is subjective it's subjective it's not objective maybe that's the good word seeing is more objective and understanding is more subjective how does that sound right we'll take it no no but do you know you does it make sense what i'm saying that when you in addition i'd say one of the um my understanding of the neurophysiology of the eyes are that each uh each eye is controlled by the opposite hemisphere of the brain and feeds into the opposite hemisphere of the brain so the brain that has to put together the images uh and make sense of it so that's another function of riya and hasaga my understanding is that that when the way the eyes work we see everything upside the initial perception is everything's upside down and the brain reverses it so that it looks up right side up to us that's very interesting okay let's continue inside when we talk about haskallah intellectualization which is associated with hillary not with her saga rather by share with with not with being able to neem its impacts it it influences it to the distance it has a much larger impact hasaga as like moisture use the good word appreciative but it's it's limited to your appreciation seeing something it doesn't depend that's why i use the word objective it's more objective so it doesn't depend on the subjectivity so therefore it can go on and on and on it's not um created by the comprehension it is it is that's it it is it is what it is that's why it says haskallah which is associate creativity which is associated with the element of america a creative idea a creative idea goes from its point of inception when the idea is comes to you all the way until the the beautiful piece of art is drawn months later years later etc etc or the person who was a scientist dabbling in the stock for years he told me this and a game stock or something i forget now it was um in the early dot com and it took off and became finally a very wealthy person from his idea that he started 20 years ago the idea travels very very far and we don't know when the idea will come to fruition you could say that was that because idea of mashiach being the reality of of of our time and you know here it is in hassagan comprehension where's mashiach we don't get it that's the that that so we have to flip back to the uh to the mode of creativity and say it has what do they call that long shelf life yeah as long as so from that vantage point there hasn't been a degradation in the quality of the mashiach creativity creative idea just because the idea has not come yet to fruition it doesn't lessen the idea the ideas in its potency the entire time and there'll be a certain time when the idea will come to fruition so i'm sure moshe in your work you've had ideas for different things that are brewing in your head for 20 years for whatever reason that it hasn't yet come where it's come to the come out yet but the idea is still fresh i see this in writing many times things come to me okay like i'll give you an example years ago i was walking shabbos walking you know and and a name for a book that i that i one day would like to write was walking between the drops life is about drops coming down sometimes they're good drops and sometimes they look like bear drops and you have to know how to walk in between and i i thought that that's i i love that idea and i haven't written a book with that title and but it's still perking and percolating in my mind walking between the drops walking between the drops walking between the drops the idea is fresh the idea has not lost any of its freshness because it's five ten years later and i haven't done anything about that idea and and so yes hilo isn't is there's there's a hebrew idiom like that like uh slang lyrico de venatipota i think no i didn't know okay okay i i've heard some something like that i'm uh okay thank you that's a great idea yeah it's a great idea you know though we have to have ideas the idiom is dance dance between the raindrops right there's raindrops right i'm using the word walking between the drops right but um ideas are important very important ideas make us alive fresh and not stale that that i'm telling you and the question is what do you do with it you know if you go off on your own merry way and and you could you could mess yourself up and mess up others like this this tyrant what he's doing now he has an idea now that he has to go back to to pre-war and and conquer land and all that so he's making a mess out of all of europe and all of the world i mean crazy like in his mind he's not crazy he's calculated he knows what he wants and and probably unfortunately in enteva will get what he wants he will conquer you know ukraine throw out the old leadership put in his puppets and saying here's your country right so an idea could be could be abused too but i but this idea i'm sure has been brewing in his cup for 20 30 years already you know so so so ideas are are very very strong that's what it ever says here in the mirror merc it's drawn very far very distant the idea will have long term value don't give up on your ideas never give up on your ideas even if they haven't happened for years keep them active because at the right time and in the right place that idea will be valuable will be needed okay now hello here he says it clearly has saga which has been um that's only an extension that's not the essence the top of 149. it doesn't allow itself subjectivity doesn't allow itself to be drawn far distant it's limited to the subjective interpretation and comprehension which for at the time is very sweet and good and important but unless there is the idea backing the subject the comprehension it's going to seize and end at a certain point this is the code what's the difference so the number said this is the intellectual difference between haskala now he says what is the difference between these two concepts in regarding serving hashem they be no who is blaming this being there is contemplation reflection meditation very important when is the active time when are you called an active duty to meditate and reflect when you're darkening avoid this is called avoid the activity the service of davening that is the time of meditation when you're working when you're doing your job now is not the time to do his abundance now you got to make sure you draw properly you write properly you sing properly or you counsel properly and it's not they ain't coming back to you okay now is not the time to get holy you want to be holy be holy in the morning well you have to be always holy but i'm saying the time for active holiness of meditation reflection is during darkening what happens throughout the day from from the meditation that you do during davening there is a remnant nishar rak resham bilvat there's only a remnant that's left that ever saying this in the derogatory way compared to hofmann in a moment in other words we meditate and reflect during the morning during darkening we're all turned on and inspired and when it comes time to eating and working later on it's like you barely realize that you're diving this morning like a mensch what happened the answer is that you're dabbing engaged the hassaga the beena and bina doesn't have long shelf life so after an hour of diving and you sit down to eat the lady go to your work there's barely any barely any feeling any recognition that you're really doubting this morning and you meditated right i told you my mushpia said to me once so i said to him if that's the case why invest in doubting so much so he said imagine how you would look like if you hadn't doubted and and it's very true and very important but nevertheless we're not discussing that aspect which is the concept of intellectualization but who asks me and it's the essence behold helps you in all aspects of your life on a daily basis the calling you know that all of your matters of yourself and all of your actions you should feel in them for ignoring the divinity the godliness in them and we'll stop here and tomorrow will conclude the minor but basically that ev is saying that this difference between our scholar and our saga has its results in practicality too in the sense that if you only experience hashem with comprehension as much as moshe you quoted whoever told you that about the virtue of comprehension of bina which is true nevertheless we see that it fades away it fades away slowly whereas if you're if you if you hold on to the idea to the kokuma it stays much longer and and that's similar to when you see something in other words like this what's going to be more more uh more um more impressive um what will help a person more remembering their grandfather with their beard and yama campaigns and feeling or uh the conversations and discussions that you had with him which will make the college student or the young adult one day take out their villain and say wow i was thinking about the way my zadie my zeta looked my grandfather wow interesting you know it the tendency of understanding is it fades it it lessens it it gets less and less but an image a picture that's why pictures with a thousand words the picture tells it all well when it says your eyes will see your instructors your teachers and that's why we have pictures of sadiq and how in our houses and etc right that's the concept that's the concept i used to have here a picture of rebecca cain of russia came to krakow walking the crocodile holding a stick with his uh a sack his tallest he was older and he you know and i thought this is what i want my children to see this is the genuine jew who you know has already hunched over his elderly but he's coming from a place of holiness and goodness and and and and and this is what we are to emulate as much as possible the picture the it it goes it goes very far whereas the understanding that's what i've been saying here and you dive in and you meditate and then later on it's like you didn't do this very little why because that's the tendency of a saga that's the word hillary he's saying that hassoga in other words you didn't do anything wrong you're on the right track but the tendency of asaga is such that it becomes less and less whereas the tendency of it remains potent the entire time and we're equating khakma to ria think about it i think it's a very important kuda and uh we'll see everyone tomorrow we should have a good heidi's meanwhile and tomorrow maybe we'll we'll finish and we'll bring a little bit zagism take care bye-bye