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Maamar Zochor 1934 #14-Creative vs Analytical people - Figure out your type of brain
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so on page 147 the maya mazaka
and uh that ever here is explaining to
us
why amolek
requires complete
annihilation destruction
and that ebba says that
the way to do it is through revealing
what's called the ayur atsumi the
essential light now what does that mean
so he talks about the difference between
coming to a relationship with hashem
through comprehension
only through hasaga understanding
or through a muna
that permeates understanding
and
the this we discussed yesterday at
length
is one of the main differences or maybe
the main difference
between uh the sheet of uh
and and the plus blessed
versus
and we're not going to repeat that i
think it's an important class for anyone
that wants to understand more about
wrestling
you know how they differ in shita should
listen to what i i said yesterday but
anyway
we continue now on 147
um we're on now the third line
who it's the middle of the line 147.
you know that in our
in our brain
we have different compartments
one is called the kayak the the the
power
of creativity
i'm using the words to define the hebrew
terms as explained in habakkuk
you see if the same line was in in let's
say in
levy or in
order shalom it doesn't have the same
meaning as it has in chabad it has
another meaning
in khabad
it based on the altareb is tanya
where he delineates clearly what
is in chapter three of tanya
all my muram follow that or most my
modern follow
those teachings of tanya because tanya
is the the bible of habakku siddhas
it's the magnum opus of habakkuk
so when they're obeying the seven that
obey him
the sixth rabbi especially after the
altar ebba elaborate
to
elucidate
the the kudus points that are brought in
tanya
they follow the teachings of tanya
right otherwise
anyone can say anything there's a system
here to this excuse the expression to
this madness
and the system is
the system is tanya and you all have
learned tanya and you learned tanya
right
so when here for example when the frida
kahler in 1934 so many years later
talks about
a concept of amalek
and he starts
and he wants us to understand it better
and he starts off saying
this is the difference between kayak
right away you have you have to you have
to say to yourself right when you read
those words and you think about him that
he's making a difference to hawkman
now
ask someone any ben taylor litvis
siddish svardic makes no difference
did they say
what says
someone who's wise and bright a wise man
and being there's a maven
uh you know and a maven is an expert
without going into delta
delta in tanya says no
we're talking about
within a wise man himself or within a
expert himself
each of them has three compartments
you hear that
oh boy boy boy you're splitting hairs
this is
this is to to analyze and understand
where is the thought coming from what
aspect of the brain is the thought
touching
and this is a very i want to say
complicate this a very analytical study
that
that when you when you master it
you have a better understanding of of
how you how the brain works how you work
and how you see other people
and you don't just put everyone in oh
he's a hachem and he's a and he's a
maven
that's a very superficial
way of approaching life
and again
there are people that overall are
stronger in creativity they come up with
great ideas
when it comes to
implementation a disaster
there are others that are great at
implementing
but when it come but they can't create
the idea they can hear from someone else
an idea and then implement it and
there's a third type of person who
analyzes the idea okay i heard your idea
i'm not ready yet to implement it
because the idea needs details
we call that a a maven of being at the
power of analysis
and english understanding another word
understanding
i've mentioned to you there is a book
from rabbi matthews cantor
um
called the 10 keys to understanding when
we were in kailu uh we had some of those
suaren there it's very worthwhile
reading this book because
he takes the ten spheros
and he and he and he explains it in very
human psychological terms
in a very bright rich way and based on
torah is
a tremendous talmud
in in in gemara in
in history exidus
and probably has an awesome kabbalah and
it's a very world worthwhile read it's a
slow read it's not a read that you can
read just you know what i call the couch
potato reading not that type of reading
it's learning but it will really help
you understand
in western
way of thinking and words which we grew
up with you know in our schooling and
universities and all that to understand
how what the out that ever
uh
the bank title i think is a guide for
the entangled
no but no no no you're mixing up two
books stop okay
okay
exactly what i was asking no no no no
no maybe he's right
it used to wait a minute i think i think
this is it hillary it used to be call
tanki a guy to the un untangled
okay it's either i don't i don't
remember you know it's years it's either
two separate books hillel
or it used to be called a guide to the
untangled and and when they reprinted it
in hardcover and did it nicely i think
it's available today from us it's called
10 keys to understanding
if you if you happen to walk in my shirt
maybe to the show next door maybe
there's still a copy of of ours that's
lying there
yes
i have it i have it oh you do have it i
haven't okay so later let us know if
it's um
read the introduction is it is it is
it's the same volume as uh as a guide
for the untangled or something else i
think it's something else anyway
so that's let's go back to the text so
what are the alternatives say here
this is it's known being a doer remember
what i told you many times when you see
a siddhis when a rabbit says you do
it doesn't just mean
like you and i how we speak hey this is
a known fact
it means that too but it implies
this is something that is very important
in the in the in the study of hasidis
and what is that
and because it's so important it is a
known it's your dua
it's known the difference between the
power of kokuma the power of bina
the koi
what is the particular strength of hogma
it's haskola now i'm going to translate
haskala as creativity haskallah comes
with the root word seiko
means intellect it's a very general word
but what in particular we're talking
about again based on the way the altered
in tanya understands khakma it refers to
the power of creativity the idea
who asks
he says
this is the kernel the essence
of
intellect of the brain
the the the very core
issue of motion
is haskell
to took us to understand
to to to intellectualize
what is the
power of bina
this is
not to
um to create an idea but to comprehend
to understand the idea
says that ever here who
cares
in comparison to kakomo who responds to
somebody
it's an extension of moah
you hear that
now right now now let's understand what
he's saying here yes
there is
three components
that ebba says that's true
but when you break it down further
there is the essence of mayak
and there is what he calls the
hispashtut
the extension of mayakh and he says that
bina
is only the
samba
versus
which is the essence
the
where the essence of the idea
is is is experienced
in the kuda
the point of the haskalah of the idea
it is
the very core
essence of that idea
so
in other words like this what he's
saying is in the creativity in the idea
that's where you that's where you have
the that's that's cycle that's pure sale
everything else is watered down
or or it's a watered down in the sense
that it's already
explaining
stripping
the purity from the psycho
and and and and and and
finding ways of understanding it which
is important but he says you need to
know that that's already an espacies
an extension that isn't the person
himself the another muscle that's given
not about this about bubba that ever
said is it in the sikhs many times
you have a person the way a person walks
outside how do you walk outside well a
normal person whenever he's dressed
properly you know and
cold hot right
goes back into his house he could take
off his clothes he could he could he
could you know he could do
it
that's it
that
the state i don't want to go into this
right now the state of nakedness is the
state of edison
that's why we were born naked and that's
why after 120 we return naked that
that's not a concern that's not a
deficiency
that's the truth
the state of nakedness is the truth
there you can't fool anybody
you can't fool yourself you can't fool
others because you're all exposed
and that's why when we when we're born
we're born pure
naked
when we pass away we go into hash we go
to hashem in a naked way pure i
understand we put on the tahrir and all
that what we're talking about
that's
also because
the white shroud represents the color
white and white is truva so when we go
into shamayim we want we want that the
the hashem should we
remember our pure side and and and
receive us favorably but really
everyone knows that
you're not supposed to have any clothing
on them when you when you bury a person
except for the
so why am i saying this i'm saying this
because
is the pure state
so but i don't want i don't want you to
make a mistake oh this person's a
husband he's pure this person is a a
maven he's not he's impure the fact is
the fact is
that many times it's that way the
the genius professor who comes up with
the genius idea of
in a way is more is more
uh
sincere
than the person who was able to analyze
because once you start analyzing
there's some of the self that goes into
the analysis
i'll put it another way i've said it
before but it's important to remember
this remember what i'm telling you now
is the way the idea
swallows you
being is the way you
swallow the idea
and and and this is a this is not just
a difference of degree
it's a difference of of of meaning
and purpose and ideology
when you're in the when you're one
second relationship
here when you hear an idea you have to
let it process the brain so it goes in
don't jump yet
so the genius professor right
who comes up with this idea and then you
ask it could you explain it because i
can't i don't have the words to explain
it yet
nevertheless the the the state of
of genius that he comes up with there's
the truth
there is the truth
why
the truth has no ego
bina has more ego than
in the
footnote on the side over there
he brings he says well i heard me mori
he means the market of miss rich
that the koyakov itself the power of the
infinite god's infinite power ain't self
where does it find itself doubt that
ever says
give a look and that's why
why doesn't it say it's found in bee
in das no
because in bean and das the ego has a
place
an important place a justified place but
nevertheless there's already the self
that has mixed some of its own
understanding into the idea so that's
why it's not pure anymore and this is
what that ever means over here
that
that the exam i like the exam scholars
the very core essence of the idea
you will find the huffman maisha what
did you want
i want to just ask a question i find it
uh this is something that i think about
a lot when you mention the different
types of people the idea person
the person let's say who's gonna
analyze it the person who's gonna
implement it
i i that's something that in my work and
also in terms of sure work and in many
aspects of life i deal with that a lot
these three different
elements
and i find it extremely difficult to try
to go back and forth between the between
the three and i
i
often ask myself
um
well let's put this way the the areas
that i'm
feel that i'm lacking in i'm often very
um
jealous or envious of a person let's say
who who possesses those these different
elements maybe that i'm not as strong in
so my i guess
my question is is the red bar here
i know that we're speaking about
the terms concepts but is the ready here
at all
insinuating
that
really these different elements exist
or abilities exist in each in every
person
or or is or is he saying or is he not
going there
meaning is he acknowledging
that people listen people i'm sure he is
acknowledging that people are different
but like i guess my question is that's
my question is is he insinuating that
we have the ability to
to be able to perform
these different functions okay and the
answer is he's not only insinuating he's
saying that every person has
an element of
however what he didn't say yet or might
not say is that
people are different in the emphasis of
what they are what is their strength one
person is
and and that's an answer probably to why
you're struggling going from one to the
other you know why because just
just you're
you're more one of the three then the
other and i'm more one of those three
so therefore let's let's say you're a
creative person
okay which you are but if
you know
if that's really
who you are in other words and i i would
as much as you're an artist and creative
and me too the writing
you know um i don't consider myself
okay i i've seen some real
you know
creative people's ideas that's a whole
different level i think what you and i
probably are experiencing is
uh within das the within das
you see this is why
i just don't jump and say what you're
saying you know and i remember we i
don't know if we learned this here but
maybe we did i know i've learned it in
previous
huge grasp of information
but anova is the person who can take
information and be creative and be and
and and take it to a different level can
can
it's it's it's a different yeah okay so
so novon is bina for the word beena
right
okay okay
but but the
the way you said you said a hakam is the
grasp information
that that's not what was no that's i
don't know if if you mean
he comes up with the idea then you're
correct but if if not it's not the right
chabad the definition of the way dalton
embassy's hawker is not grasp of
information it's to create the idea
that's very different than grasping
information so i i always taught it
i'm trying to remember where i where i
was taught this
that
that is the first that person is the
null phone
yeah
that is the novel that's yes
that is but even that i don't know if i
would say grasping it's it's it's
analyzing the information
you know the word grasp is a very uh
interesting word and i i i don't i don't
believe again you know we're playing
between hebrew
lingo and english so it's a very
delicate balance and that's why this
book he does an excellent job but anyway
i want to go back to your question
because it is have a very good point so
we're not just you know going off on a
tangent here i think it's relevant to
what we're learning i should have a good
point that is
the reason why
one has a difficulty
going from one area to another is
because
every one of us is strong in a certain
element and when you have to switch it's
very hard i can tell you for myself okay
i can tell you for myself
the type of the type of mind that that
i've experienced the last 40 50 years of
my life
is is not in you know in
in in um
in being able to go deep and deep and
deep into an issue to split hairs and
understand the nuances and the
differences
i have a difficulty in that area what am
i in other words i can go so far and
then i can't go further my brain doesn't
go further
and believe me i've spent a lot of time
doing brain work okay
thinking and thinking and thinking when
you're learning over the years
and it's clear to me that that's not my
strength
you see
so it's it's it's it's a very good
what you're saying maisha is very
important especially the work that
you're doing because when you realize
what your
um strengths are
and your shortcomings and again it's not
at the shortcoming you just that's not
how your brain works then you're able to
be more successful in the type of work
that you do and
nevertheless wait nevertheless
a a person who understands these things
is able to guide
a person to someone else who does
master that other area who can really be
helpful
and that ebb himself did this i saw
there were several people in the chabad
community over the years
that that ever sent people to them
and one in particular he lived in
montreal
uh his his brother was the one of the
rabbanim of chronic rabbi
he was a rebbe of mine so he had an
older brother
uh of isaac shrey who was a rosh yeshiva
in montreal khabad and he he was really
besides a massive talmud hochum he was
pika he was sharp as a wit and he had
practical advice and that ever sent many
people
to talk to
him why
because in that area
the advice that such a person gives you
is is
is priceless
it's priceless
most rabbis didn't have it most others
didn't have it you know it's a specialty
you know they you know you know today
you pay uh expert witnesses why not just
because in certain areas
their opinion and their way of
understanding things is the correct way
and that's why when you have to
deal with people of all kinds
yes you will encounter
um
you you were counted difficulties as you
said yourself and that's because
based on who you are
some of the others don't fit into that
box and therefore you have a hard time
now
there is a story that is worth knowing
it's with the mitchell river it's not
really a story it's it's just an
occurrence when he
would have gerhidas
he would come out sweating
and and they asked
you know was it such a hard job to talk
to someone
you know you had good air and good
conversation
and yet you're sweating you have to
change your shirt
so that ever said
when you have your hedis you have to
enclose yourself invest yourself
in the other person's issue
and i have to
go into one and come out and go on to
another one and each one warrants a
different investment
that makes you really
sweaty
and much i think that's exactly what
you're describing if i understood you
correctly and it's
a hard job
that's why not many people are evidence
but
you don't have to be at ever for that
i say that as long as you're able to
as long as you realize what your
strengths are and you know how to guide
a person
then you then you
then
you do you could do so
you'll do fine so the answer to your
question short is do each of us have
these three elements we do
but
they are subordinate to the main element
in us
here
so now that's why i said earlier my
shirt there is
and there is
a lot of talk you see this about this in
more hasidic terms but if you break it
down
that's that's the idea
right
so for example das what's das
what is
focus and concentration
but you have to focus on something
you have to concentrate on something if
you
focus on the sky right
you need information to focus on
so someone comes to motion says
uh
my i have this in this issue uh
somebody says let's sit down and think
about it right let's focus on it
if you don't give him the data
his focus
won't help you because you didn't give
him all the data
so in other words in order for focus to
work you have to have the data and the
real proper data without fooling
yourself that's been a grasp as he said
the word grasping the information if you
haven't grasped the information the
focus is not on the full information
hence the result is erroneous
or not helpful
yes i just want to click one one thing
what i said i just make sure it was
this was clear the differentiation was
let's say between a person
who let's
knows a huge amount of vast amount of
torah
he has allah at his fingertips
but he but
it's again this was explained to me he's
he's the
again that the person though who's the
navon
is the one who could take that knowledge
though
and can be
more um
i don't want to use it
maybe
okay okay yeah yeah
yeah yeah but in other words
the person you could have a person who
has a huge amount of
knowledge but he's like a tape recorder
right he just he just he just
but then but then you have a person who
can take that knowledge and can and can
be
wise in how he is able to apply it
and be
think that's already dos that's already
dos that third stage application
actually don't even dash but it comes
from das when you concentrate and focus
on information it leads to application
i i want to just say i i okay
you know another another like this my
shirt what i'm hearing now i heard it
before but now it's clear
whoever told you will taught you this
they taught you right but they weren't
they weren't
they weren't doing what we're doing here
that they weren't
they weren't going into a study of
chakrabinidas in detail they gave your
overall picture so their picture of what
kabad says kakuma is wrong what the
picture they said about bina is wrong in
in wrong
detailed analysis it's right in the
general
way the way we live in the world and
understand torah in a general way i just
want to make it clear you have you have
to know that there's very different
ideas well yeah i i think probably when
we're discussing it i think i'm trying
to remember who it was i think i knew
who it was but i'll i'll
yeah but but i'm saying it it could even
be a la barbage it makes no difference
if if he's not teaching you that part of
tanyo is not teaching you this mime or
or where there that he's just speaking
overall he's not getting into the
details you know what i'm saying i think
no
it could be it could be
so so it's not so it's not a
contradiction but
here we're going much you know much
deeper and and more analytical
um
so
i would say that here and this type of
discussion
is is more of not the truth more more
correct in the kebab ideology that's
what i'm saying
what time is it i don't have a watch
what time is it
three three sixteen
what do you say about what we learned
today
well i i just wanted to comment that one
one of the ideas
that i associate with kog'maw and i
think it was originally from the safety
etc but i certainly associate it
throughout all hasidas
is the idea that
it's compared to lightning
that that it's a that it's a flash that
it has a short duration it kind of uh
and do something with it
right okay okay
yes
that lightning
is brought down in this forum as the
idea
i i i i still think that the english
word creativity is is the best word to
define the altarebe's idea of hakma
the cree
you know
and and and bina is you know i've told
you that i have this deceased i am sorry
the ccc
creativity
comprehension
and concentration
c c c
is creativity being is comprehension c
and das is concentration c yes malaysia
tcc is creativity comprehension and
concentration right
and and creativity the first c refers to
create a comprehension the second c
refers to
and the third one concentration refers
to das
comprehension is the second yes beena
bina well i just
what hillel said it's very interesting
because one of the things that i've had
the tools i've had to make for myself
over time is that
i maybe i shared this book is when i
have an idea for a piece or a project or
something
i don't usually have hours and hours
just to really start to work on it that
inspiration so i had to figure out a
tool how i could take that inspiration
inspiration
and record it with a minute within a
minimum amount of time and put it up on
my board or my a book in my art room
and then i could come back to it a later
date
so you know and i gave my i sort of made
devised a way to do that
and i gave myself a limit like a time
limitation of let's say an hour between
an hour to two hours maximum
to take the idea to write it out to
think sketches brief
but the point is to be able to capture
the inspiration right because
that's all as i understand it yeah
that process that follows your idea
moisture is the beena that that
and and i can tell you it's the same way
in writing the same way i had come up
with an idea
and i
i also jot it down and i use the outline
which becomes usually the table of
contents later more or less
as the being a process to what you
described
that
and and then i come and then i start you
know basing you know so for me that
works you know um and again different
minds were very very differently so
um but again it doesn't take away
the fact that each and every one of us
is strong in one of these three elements
and nuances within the elements
um
and and that's why some people are very
not practical
they they don't their brain doesn't
relate to practic their brain thrives in
the world of ideas
it could have nothing to do with
practicality they don't they don't care
that's not who they are in fact
practicality turns them off
okay
and then you have people who are only
great and
in practicality but when it comes to
ideas
you know they they're you know you have
you have a dozen like so many ideas get
away you know let's see what you're
doing about it
that that's that's what we're
encountering and and you you know you're
right when you're in a position or a
counselor hillel you know meeting
different people
that type of work or or the rabbinics
it it's it's like i told you the middle
arena became he sweat he sweat he it's
very hard it's it's it's it's a it's a
last night that there was a uh someone
who sent me a link to a tousle touch
looking to having a podcast or talking
about uh
secret this week
and then they got into the whole topic
of shlichis
and this
is from the 70s so he's from the oldest
looking rabbi darren out from
connecticut
and he said very
very well and
articulated well he said
you know
the whole the idea of making about the
shiva
it is
the hardest thing
but yet that's the mission that
the the rabbit wanted of ishmael is to
bring people back to the fold
to make bali trouba not to put up
buildings
a building is wonderful but it's they're
ever gonna say you know make me a
building make me about to shoot them
and and you know that's the hardest
thing i can tell you especially now you
know but even in my younger years when i
was immersed in that that's the hardest
thing
you know
not
not only is it hard because
you know every person has a way of
thinking of feeling and you have to
convince them otherwise or point them to
another direction
but you
have to yourself
be
interested in investing so much time of
yourself
into this process
and that's a great that's a great
sacrifice
it's a great sacrifice
and uh so i found it very fascinating
that here is this kind of you know
schliere from 50 years ago who's talking
to this whole new world group of
today these young young
and then you know even into the 30s and
he's telling him hey guys i know it's
very very uh excuse the expression hot
you know it's very hot to think about oh
a new building a new habat house uh you
know uh getting a million dollar
donation
you know bringing 500 people to crown
heights with territory
and making the news and your and your
your pictures there and all that he says
my friends let's not lose the plot let
it you know
and and that's a lot of work
so i i i think it it also touches upon
what we're learning now
is
the
focus
on on on what your strength is and
that's why
every organization a regular school
should have
someone a rabbi a god by another person
who's strong in this area another person
strong in that area and if they have a
combined group of people that are strong
in certain areas that organization
and that shoe
and and that the chabad house will grow
exponentially and will be very
successful
because you won't mix up the roles it's
when we start mixing up the roles that
we have at disasters yes hilo
this is uh this is often a cloud and
team building that you look for people
with you know specific
these specific qualities
and uh
as part of forming a team
right
and and
the smart ceo the smart boss
it
recognizes what it's good me what is not
good in any and team building and he
delegates and and again and i think that
you could say probably the difference
between the successful companies not
successful companies successful schools
not just individuals incessant
organization nothing
is that team building and that's what we
learned with pasha's israeli with myself
he says to my champion of my
you're gonna get burned down and guess
what it happens every day good people
powerful people burn out
midlife crisis
right because they didn't from the
beginning set up a system where they
hired and took other people that's what
history told moshe you need to delegate
authority and really delegate authority
not you know uh uh you're a figurehead
but i'm gonna tell you what to do
no
i'm gonna give you authority i'll
discuss it with you i might even debate
you but in the end if you if i believe
that you are the right man for this
particular area
it's your approach that that i'm going
to go with otherwise why are you hiring
him
just to be your your pawn
and you know this this is um common
everything okay kevin we spoke
beautifully we had a good share we'll
see everyone tomorrow same time safe
place have a great day zyga's on
bye bye