Maamar Zochor 1934 #13- Breslov and Chabad Difference - Abolishing Amalek Spiritually

um afraid of competing as they say around here it's peter it's pirim it's pinum time it's put in time and um it's true shampoo i'm sorry it's pure cotton so we're exempt from um what else do we do on purim cotton we we celebrate by being frey love and and and preparing ourselves for the real put him in 30 days and we're going to learn the continue learning the mimer because we have to we have to finish the mimer let's go is it amy awesome to have a pseudo right really some people do yeah some people do but uh in khabad i don't think there was an indian a mockbit to wash i didn't see that the rabbit made of a brain and not every year but uh quite a few times but yeah down the table he had wine and missingness he didn't have but there's nothing wrong to to do that okay let's go bottom of page uh 1 46. so now he begins begins coming down the plane starts coming down he begins concluding the mimer brazil zachary at the end of yesterday's year and he said it also in the beginning that how do you get destroyed this amolek and he mentioned remember four different types of amoled the two the two types the uh pericoil the pericoil and yesterday we learned about apathy the sense of apathy so how do you how do you how do you deal with all of it so that episode at the end of yesterday's year the previous episode through gilroy what does this mean guillermo this is what he starts explaining now the buddha the clipper symbolic is by revealing the rep the revelation of er osmi of the essential light it's not meaning your light if we have to reveal our light we're in trouble the light that god puts into us the energy there is what we call an expansive energy an energy that's based on the situation as it is in this world and then there is an energy the way it's from god's perspective ask me or ask me so when we can reveal the way the energy is the way god in when god sees his energy if we reveal that it's so powerful it doesn't measure itself by the recipient by the issue on hand rather it's it's it's overwhelmingly god and therefore it can abolish completely the problem the problem will dissipate completely let's see how he how he explains the further mashable sm so right away that ever taps into the idea this is the essence that transcends comprehension what is that a simple english there is going about a problem logically trying to figure it out how am i going to deal with it what am i going to do i have someone something someone that that wants me to put me down that wants to hurt me well you're going to protect yourself are you going to do that that's all logic say sequel then there is above and beyond logic you're going to completely immerse yourself somehow in hashem as hashem it's your issue you take care of it but not in in in a you know defeatist um fatalistic type of attitude i'm not i'm gonna sit back and continue playing golf and then you can help me no i'm gonna do whatever it is but at the end of the day i don't have the kayak to overcome the problem in the enemy innocent so what do i would do what do we say what does that mean until him we sing it in the in the in the kiss live in part of the show and he will sustain you there is a cough sustainment that comes from us what does that mean kick it back to god the who and he from god's perspective then the sustainment and the accomplishment of the results are way beyo beyond anything and the truth is the more we we we think this way and we live this way um we experience it we experience it this way let's continue well your day next page top of page 1747 yes nephesh and right away says something that you know we don't like hearing but he says it you gotta work very hard hard yakiya atsuma mighty uh effort be agias bossa through the effort of soul and the effort of flesh you see it comes also into logic this is the difference between the khabar approach and let's say breslif which is a very important nakuda to talk about for a moment in breslif and their teachings pretty much talk about the that should permeate the mind as well so and and i'm not saying that breslau doesn't have mind i'm not saying that but i'm saying the inca emphasis the main emphasis of the shita of the mahalak the approach is so now they they're talking about you know everyone the state department says leave ukraine they they vacated the government from from what's it called from uh keeve i bet you and i think i read it the people in new man are not leaving and we'll never talk so on one hand is that right or wrong is that smart or stupid is that what god wants or not right that's a question that's a valid question for everyone to ask themselves in a way like how why is it relevant to us but we're talking about an indian a concept from the breslin perspective that's right if you live with that ambulance there's nowhere to go and i just for the record i don't know if you remember but my should probably you remember you saw the video when there was a hurricane i think was 1991 no it was 93 or 92 or 93 a famous hurricane in florida in miami and um they warned everyone to vacate right and the rebel wasn't well he wasn't able to speak he already had a stroke so robert groener went to the river and said that the the khasid and are asking what to do should they leave and there ever went and then groener asked him what he used to do he used to ask him in both ways should you or should you not or or he did both of that and then he said so so they shouldn't so he said they shouldn't leave he went like this this is what rabbi label shapiro is a very victimized hulk i'm a serious man the russia shiva maya mikhail yeshiva tells over the rabbi groener told him and and and label shapiro this is online he says they stayed in the house and the rain was good fair enough and nothing well so that's osamunda right that's faith i bet you all his neighbors left [Music] so what's the difference between the ammuna of alabama of a breast level so the rabbit i would say alludes to it over here we're here he speaks about the oil asks me but and but then he says to experience the it asks me you have to put a lot of effort into the situation effort of soul effort of flesh so that gamba it also impacts the mind that the mind understands why this approach is right you see and in those three words moshe bhagamba saw the that is the crux of the chabad shita if it wouldn't say bog then you would say this is the breast of the prabhat is that the must also impact the hasoga and if it doesn't impact also the understanding the logic it's not derek that in a nutshell i would say is the difference and both are holy drachim and both are valid and everyone should choose their path but what i'm saying is if you if you want to know the overall difference between the breslau approach and the khabar approach is the in these three words does my mind need to come to the same determination and understanding as my faith or no if my mind does not understand it and in fact disagrees with it what do i choose the what the mind says you anderson or what faith says let's continue let's see how he develops it vahu the yakaya and this is to be diligent look at the words to become logic if you want logic to come along for the ride you need logic to understand and to and to work on its logic to understand that god transcends logic logic itself should should say i understand that god transcends logic so who am i following the transcend the transcendental god the faith god that that's the earth's me but who has to come to that determination the sacred shepherd because if the secretary if the person's mind is not with the program guess what there'll be a time when there's a breakdown and the person will say i follow my dictates of the mind which contradict my faith but if the mind is also excited because it understands that it's important and what it doesn't understand it realizes that's its shortcoming and the truth is the faith then then the logic supports the faith in other words you want logic cycle to support faith you don't want logic to disagree with faith well rebbe what comes first what comes first um that's also a a difference between brussels and khabad for example in breslau would say faith comes first kabad would say seiju comes first meaning to have it's a good question you asked a very good question and the answer is briefly like this to have true and munna the way khabad sees it you must have seiko why because if not your your your logic could your set your faith could be a very uh excuse the expression foolish one or silly one or shallow one and not strong and you could convince yourself that it's faith and really it's frankly stupidity or ridiculousness i'm not saying it has to be that way but it's more act whereas if you if you've worked it out with seiko and the sacral itself says i can only go so far and i see that we need lodge we need faith to solidify the situation that that faith has more permanence than a faith that doesn't have logic to sustain it but that what i just gave you is a chabad answer i'm sure bressler would give you a different answer which would be no no brussel would say that you know that that faith itself and the sadducees and uh whatever else of the media when the market teach they say that's adequate and this is a an age-old uh you know different sashita this this it's not it's not one's better one's worse this is a difference in shita right what's the possibility [Music] he will make you live in other words that that sadik's faith brings highest into you and helps you live so now there's two ways of interpreting that i go to the tsadik i get a broker [Music] i look at that sadiq and the polish hungarian hasidim say that is adequate for the closet you don't need more you do not need more this whole idea of learning to see this every day a half an hour 45 minutes and racking your brains and trying to understand hashem a little better is unnecessary on the contrary on the contrary the early students of the market opposed it as we've spoken about was the father figure of the slender mercedes they opposed vehemently dalton eva's way you know we don't like talking about it today but 200 years ago this was common and they believed that it's harmful because the average person could barely read olive base and and and and and sidder they were ignorant and they knew very little and here you're going to share with them these ideas they're going to they're going to fry out they're going to say you know they were very scared fearful of hasidic ideas which they saw as kabbalistic idea which it isn't kabbalistic ideas unless you make it at the kabbalistic ideas they saw it as a deterrent for the average jew the altar said the way you see it i understand why because you're teaching you you think we're teaching kabbalah i'm not teaching i'm teaching this is everything we're learning with michelle and i'm you know that's right up the alley of the thinking mind because i'm not a person as a mind god gave them my mind so what what i'm doing down to the episode is i'm working with the mind and and and and although that's that's crucial so that the mind is also excited about hashem and about tata so so the the the altar ever said to his contemporaries this is the the the most important way and i i i i researched and wrote it in my book on khabar and breslif that rav nelson after he came back from meredith's role you know he went there just role i think was 1810 or so and he came back and he was sent by about from of khalis to the altar rebel and to go from where he was um to to to uh to lead lead with the alternative was was a very far distance 400 miles it was very far and you imagine travel in those days it says that he had stopped i think he stopped for a little bit a very short time in his house and he went on because he had a schmidt who am i talking no no yeah right right nelson had a schlitz no sorry but take it after he went to stroll and he had herself from the room of kalisk to give to the altar but basically stop teaching it doesn't say this clearly but from what i can determine after the alternative spoke to him he understood why it's important and not only did didn't he tell the altitude to stop teaching firstly he wasn't going to tell he was 28 years 27 years younger than the altar emma you know that i'm knocking 27 years younger than he was going to tell donald trump what to do besides that the alternate was not just one second not just i mean be as they say in hebrew right beyond but what i i what i concluded i wrote it in the book is that he he basically rejected it what he heard from again it doesn't say this written anywhere but if i if i put the pieces together i believe that's the case because because of it and i'm sorry about what i'm calling sent in to convince the alternate to stop teaching and what happens he leaves the altar and and alternate continues and alternate but did meet with him and he goes away lording deltarep and even the and all the presidents see them for 200 years will admit and they've written in their books the great there are harris that that they have nothing had for the altered ever so that tells me that the alternate did a job on him intellectually he sat down with him and he said what is what is above rooms uh uh what is he concerned about olive based game of dialect and he would probably refute it and explain refuted them and and and and the basic the basic concern was i told you that the average person might become not religious saltador probably said well let's look around all the all the questions here all the simple jews in liardi and does anyone is anyone fry has anyone left torah mitzvos because of khabad and no okay and then he went on to explain to him what what is the importance of incorporating it that didn't change at nachman's which is you know in in the world of hasidism i don't know if it's correct but you know they want to believe and academics have been written about it that their abnormal approach is kind of a bridge between the polish hungarian approach and the khabar approach have you ever heard that they say it differently they say that khabad is kabad and we're kessar we're the crown on the head which is fine i mean all jokes have some truth that why because kessler's associated with that munna since abnochma's approach is that munna and sim can be talking and all that so it's the crown on the head and you guys are the head yes you're the head but we're even great because with the crown on the head but the way the academics and other serious writers look at it i believe is that breast lift is like a bridge between chabad and the emotional sorry for the long uh explanation now i don't know if i overwhelmed you but go ahead as i was gonna just ask didn't also remember olivia remember member ditchev have some involvement with aldoraba in terms of making some sort of uh shalom between um different altera and maybe other hasidic yes i i i'm just curious yes yes yes that's that's i mean this is a whole share for itself but uh rebellic who again wasn't a chabad rabbi was a hagas rapper but he sided with the alter ebba very much so against the kawasaki against rabbi from although again although he wasn't teaching and you look into um his safer which is printed you will see that it's not pure chabad it's more on the chagas you know a question an answer and an emotional thought that an inspirational thought which is wonderful but it's not a my mother called the territory or a piece of tonya far from it you know what i'm saying but he did stand up for the altered effort now you know one can argue and i'm sure some do that's because he was his makutan you know the faith they became for that matter for that matter you know that the the nakamura breast lifts um grand i think graham daughter grandson married um one of the the mitchell rappers one of the barbecue they they became also like distant but that's later but yes the answer is that the blade is um did uh come out and write letters in support of the al-taraba to refute the arguments of rabbavram of kaliskh there's there's a there's a safe called uh um uh that that has really uh called together many letters from all of these different sadiq and uh they have been the uh the uh food for thought for many academics who have studied these letters and and come to different positions but let us go on so i i just you know i know yay you know has spoken many times about the breast lift and going to mind and things like that so i think it's important to understand you know um what the mahalak is and hopefully when you're new york i can get you the book somehow i'd like you to read the book on habanero breslift okay okay okay that ever says and when a person is inspired with their mind the mind should also understand that and one's brain should come to that determination and you know the idea is actually we're going to stop here because here starts a whole new indian so this we will mr sham continue i just want to say a vert for putting cotton and that is and the mimer i did it in my clip i hope you had a chance to listen if not please do so i made this week that there have been 1927 defeat the cadet said a mimer uh i think was like last night in moscow and there's a famous show called the hero synagogue i don't know if much if you got to that to that you got the moscow when you went there when you did the safety torah no we're only in the ukraine oh moscow has has a lot of things to be seen and a lot of history so one of the things you speak about moscow you're speaking about petersburg moscow moscow moscow yeah there's a big shul in petersburg too the gigantic yeah but but there's a one like that in moscow called the hero synagogue and that's so in back in the in in the turn of the century and probably tens and twenties there was a separate building that kind of attached to the main shul and that was called the shula of the hasidim i'm not even sure if it was called the shul of the laboratory the shul of so because the main sure was ashkenaz it was inspired so who dabbing there naturally you know no you know breslin but definitely probably was the you know the main the main main amount of hasidim and um later later they annexed that building together with the big shul so today you don't have to separate but it's rebuilt as so someone hashem who did research on this took me around the different parts of the building the the steps these see the previous in the previous rapid series it says it alludes to where he said the mimer the famous mimer of of the qibla yehuda sin of 1927 where he spoke openly about sending the children to haider and their kgb agents all over and in and he wasn't scared that and that's the moment the rebbe handed out ata sabha the last mime of the rebels based on that mimer and two weeks before the rapper had a stroke he gave out that mimer in 1992. so it has for us specific uh special significance so he said that mimer that night in moscow in that show so where did he say it i was just curious i'd like to be there you know so we figured you know we figured out the base that he figured out based on what he thinks and what it says that i think today it's a social call actually which wasn't there at the time in 1927 but today it is there he thinks that was the place of the buildings that was standing there you understand today it's a social hall in the building but in 27 the building didn't go that far out and and um it was another uh building adjacent so that was um something very very special the other thing is it took me to the mick area i don't know if you heard the clip but just briefly that's where uh rubio khan's grandfather in 1929 i think he came in with a few other people and because the government said you could you have to close the khadarim and the mikvehs but in this show there was a midfield and they didn't and you know they kind of let it go but but the regular shoot people were scared so they locked the mikvah so the lubavitchers and of yo khan's they didn't have shalom khan was his name either one of the young tavern they went to the iron claddish when they were supposed to take out the safety and they blocked her and kurdish and they said we're not letting you take out the tight until you promise you're going to open the mikvah and there was a fight and chairs were flying it was really and the show them didn't budge and he wasn't scared of chairs and guess what he got his way and then after yamcha they opened up the and this is told by uh rabb emmanuel michelin who was in moscow from 1922 to 1972 50 years this is a must read i read this book i i have to reread it 10 times there is so much information primary source and it's in hebrew it's not hard hebrew it's like you know easy hebrew it's called i believe in yerushalayim there's talkashiv brothers and and you they probably know where you can still get this book if not i made copies i got it from a library uh intro library i borrowed the book and i made copies of the whole thing at 200 200 pages you know it's not a lot it's phenomenal it is such a it gives you details no one knows and this is a story that i took out of there because it's such a rich story you know he was there this writer was there in the show when this took place and he was a young man he remembered it so clearly so and there's such other things in there and he talks about the rabbis and because he probably saw two or three or four different rabbis from 1922 to 1972 and then he came to the red and by the way the rebel paid for him to print the book what happened is the rabbit told them to get the the organizations or the russian organizations to pay for it and they were they were crossing you know because they didn't write they were the way he wrote it and this and that whatever and he wrote back to the rebel and they ever said okay i don't need their favors you can say that and he took out money i think four thousand dollars and he got the book printed and um hashem so what i'm saying is all this happened in that show so when i when when this person took me down to the mikvah i didn't go into the midfield but he said this here inside is with a mig for that they that they had closed and that their borough khan was made a big vayatsaku this is the mikveh this this is where i'm sure they fixed it up by now but this was the the mikveh so it was very very interesting to to follow that i'd love to talk more but it's uh i have another shirt so zygozoont and we'll see everyone tomorrow okay take care everyone nice to see you nice drive safely zaikazu bye bye thank you thank you bench