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Maamar Vkibel 1927 #9 Two Perspectives are both right Is your faith true?
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a deep opinion of siddhis uh
real see this you know real everything's
real but this is uh
intricacies we're saying yeah there's
there's an expression
of cup which literally means you have to
hold your head
you got to pay attention and focus so
what are we talking about
the river said over here that has
they both refer to the two types of
bitter humility subservience that we're
talking about in this mimer
at this point which is called das el
yang and das
the supernal das the supernal knowledge
the supernal perspective
the das is the lower perspective the
human perspective
and not just the human perspective
rather the perspective of hashem
as god already accepts
and wants humans and the
and the universe okay so everything
everything is included in that and and
it's worthwhile
getting these terms while we're learning
him here because they are
scattered throughout this left and right
so once you get it you get it so again
we're talking about come down what and
up and down
yeah so das
el yang means from god's perspective
as hashem is is is yet
a pre universe in other words what is
his interest his interest
is in himself in the godhead in hakodesh
he doesn't yet take seriously
i'm using i'm using the best words i
could use are the best
words that come to mind to express the
idea
he doesn't take seriously the world the
universe you know why
because in that perspective there is no
world
there's only god
what's what is hashem's perspective
known as das the lower
perspective it's when hashem already
concedes
and wants and already a universe to be
even if it hasn't yet been formed but in
notion an
idea he's already accepted the idea
it's like before you make the investment
you come to a place to say i am ready to
make the investment whatever it is
right even before you make the
investment and guess what
then it when it comes to payable mama's
when it comes in actuality to make the
investment
you might change your mind because
something comes up
but before you can even think about
making the investment
it had the idea you hear this listen to
the idea of investment has to sit well
with you
so in english we translated many times
you know ego and existence but
i i want to really give you what the way
hasidis understands the idea
yes means the beginning the formation of
reality
is not the beginning of reality the
notion of reality
and there's a difference between the
notion of reality and the beginning of
reality
and i'm using the muscle of investment
to explain both
to do the investment bipole in actuality
that's like the yesh to
before that you need to have the
mitsiyut the existence
that there is such an idea called
investment
that that in its own right in its own
right
that is an entity so
maybe can be translated in english as
the entity
i mean i like the word notion but entity
notion
so from the
perspective the yes already
has some place from the das
one second one second from the das el
young perspective
the yes doesn't have a place all that
has a place
is the mathias yes yoni
so maybe what you talk maybe just the
more modern day
english kind of like brainstorming
before you actually
you know go through with the idea you
brainstorm
i mean again in in a certain scenario
that probably be right but again
brainstorming is already part of uh
uh of an existence of a yes
but yeah if you compare i guess
brainstorming to what comes late
later you could use that mushroom so
so so so this is one one introduction
that you need to know what's when we're
learning the
what we're learning now number two we
look at the word yes
words that are thrown around by the way
it didn't begin at hasidis almost says
that he's ignorant
yeshuaian began much before that before
in early jewish writings of philosophy
you'll find the term yeshmiah
not just philosophy and maybe even
we could say that the way kabbalah
understood yeshmiah
is the opposite of the way the
philosophers understood that but that's
another shear
and another discussion i don't want to
go into that now but the way
hasidis understands yeshumiyan is based
on the kabbalistic tradition of the
arizo
and what does he teach what does he
teach
he teaches that there is a force and we
call this force
ayan what's the hebrew meaning of the
word iron nothing
garnished
this iron although we
we identify it as nothing is everything
why is it everything because without the
iron there would never be a yes
yes may i in the yes coming
from the iron so sit this asks the
question how could that be
you're telling me it's nothing and yet
you're telling me that without the iron
may i in the yes wouldn't be and the
only reason why the yes is there
is because it comes mayan in english ex
nila which really is a misnomer be like
what does that mean you know greek
greek words yes so
yes something may i
so this is what see this
the uh from the out to that but they
also speak about how are we to
understand the iron and just for a
moment i want to
i want to just say a few more things
about this because it's relevant to
to all of siddhas and that is
that when we talk about yeshumiyan there
is
two aspects to yeshmiah there is the way
the ion
is because of bakirov to the yesh
close and attracted to the esh
and at the very same time there is the
iron the way the iron is
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distant from the yesh and this is in a
way
an oxymoron this is a a steeda mineo bay
is the ion interested in the ash or the
ion is not interesting yes make up your
mind comes
about citizen says both are true
that the interest is for the to be
a yes but at the very same time
god wants that the yes should know that
it comes may i
in you're nothing what i mean you're
nothing rabbi i have run towards you all
of a sudden it's still in the slating
i mentioned the word they accept him how
many books did you
write rabbi twersky 90 books 60 books at
the time when he said this i think
so he said no i didn't write 60 books
this and they said wow you wrote 60
books
he said i wrote one book in 60 different
ways
what is the book that he wrote i'm
telling you from reading some of his
books and probably you guys
you all read some of his books it's
wonderful that he has
self-esteem everything that he did
and everything he speaks about from out
from from alcohol isn't the 12-step
program and abuse and all the issues
that he covered throughout his life
which were
tremendous a tremendous amount they all
stem from one that could
self-esteem what is self-esteem
so you look into his book generation to
generation and other some of his works
you see
self-esteem is god esteem at least
that's the way i understand it based on
siddhas
a healthy self-esteem is because hashem
wants you to be a
healthy person with self-esteem so your
esteem is god's esteem
yes ma'am the yesh
is not just in his formation from
ayan the yesh is ayan you hear that
there's a difference hillary saying the
yesh comes from the i
in but the yesh is a yesh or to say
since you come from the iron what are
you really
you are iron you're nothing
not nothing in a negative sense nothing
in the best scenario
what do you mean i'm nothing i'm i'm an
expression of godliness
i'm an agent of hashem
so therefore i have to get out and do
and i have to accomplish
and i have to achieve because i am
the ultimate of iron of godliness
this is part of this discussion although
you're not going to see these words in
the rhymer
but when you think and and this by the
way you know
we talk about his blunderness what i
just told you is this
is is an example of his bonanus
what i just said if you take this and
you think about it before you dive and
while you're dabbing
you are in you're in the midst of what's
called a chabad
meditation this is meditation and this
is only the beginning
you know you delve your mind deeply into
these ideas
and and you understand that at a certain
point as your mind
is under understands this and it is
immersed in this it loses
its kind of own um own recipe
own own flavor and it becomes absorbed
in the content
of the meditation and when it's a godly
meditation
the godliness and the meditation
overwhelms
and over overpowers the brain and you
become
part of that godly experience
and what's the result of that avi
as the altar ever said
and i don't want your paradise supernal
paradise
i don't want your lower paradise
all i want is you you and you
that's the ultimate and if you hear that
and that ever said this many times and
he always broke down when he said this
because there ever was a jew a yid who
lived with this
he worked on this this was his this was
his bread and butter
so for him it wasn't just like for me
saying it over repeating it
for him he lived it so when you live it
it's like how can you even talk you know
and the answer is
i want you to talk okay finish with my
sermon i hope it was helpful to you
and it's recorded so you can always
re-listen
to it so let's now learn inside page 201
um let's learn from the beginning of the
chapter we'll go we'll go over it a
little quickly because we learned that
yesterday
we say
this that we've been talking about faith
as it is
understood and none of this faith as
it's expressed through what we call the
pervading
energy or faith as it's mainly unrelated
to through the disabled calamium
is two levels of nullification
it doesn't say kale they are one
god that says they oh two opinions based
data is darcelian there's two
levels of das two levels of knowledge
what we call das el yoin
number one and number two in the lower
dos
taste in the lower level of da's who
it is the following shalom yesh
three expressions that creatures and
creations are
observable need him from the word riya
the niggling for the word god
revealed when the um and fell
in a real existence yes that's the
perspective we're here
we're not going anywhere so what how do
we perceive god's worldly cause and the
god of this that's that
that creates us we call that nothing
why i'll shame because shayna music it's
not comprehensible to us we have no idea
what it is
you know we know about a good bed and we
know about all the dash meals and all
the things in the world and a little
learning happening once in a while
but to say that we understand what the
iron is forget it
the hanive the creature the creature
ezekiel
namaste something that he doesn't
understand or he met all of
he says about that again it's nothing
because it's not in my realm of
understanding
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its meaning is not that it he he is
the vitality is an energy
other different than his and than who he
is
not like me yes me iron
i the yes work and operate in a certain
way and am i
in a certain way the force that gives me
the highest
a9 i in is very different
it's not my type of uh
lifestyle and existence
because when the energy is here from our
perspective we relate to it
since this energy is not like our
existence
and therefore he calls this is
from the perspective known as
we stop here now goes to the sec
the higher level of das we called us
yes where is the true yes yoni the myla
by hashem la mata and everything below
that's a real zero a real ion
infinite god is the true existence
yes two new two new words when they're
put together that
have a specific meaning which means yes
true yes right we are not true yes
who is true yes true existence god
and therefore from god perspective of
das el yain
what's below is i in nothing
because everything in comparison to
hakodesh barco
killer is like nothing
don't think that these two aspects are
just the way rabbi dolphins dressed them
up before
to understand it in our life but guess
what in the godhead itself
in a locus you have two modes of
operation
both are true and he explains
in the godly and emanation and the godly
energy
which is the energy that gives
root source and and and and place
for worlds who prince das
that's what i told you the beginning
shmuel that we all call
dastak the level of the lycus of highest
of
godly energy that already concedes
that there is a world and i want a world
that's dastardly
and since this level in godliness is
already a source
for the worlds types of
so then the worlds make an impact
in this level of godliness this level of
godliness is not
bereft of the issues of the worlds
but rather the issues of the worlds
touch it
impact it and make a difference and he
brings the
the words that's brought further the
melech below um
for this level of energy we apply the
rule
a king is not a king unless he has
subjects
so when you say that join us when you
say that
you're automatically saying that the
subjects
make an impact in the king and without
the subjects
he is not a king
so what does that level of kingship
consist of that the subjects are
subordinate to the king
now if you take this muscle you bring it
back to our discussion
right the worlds the talent are
subservient to god so what's the
nimshiel
of the subjects that are
nullified to the king
someone we had here a muscle and a
nimbus
what would you say is the nimsho
to the muscle yeah the
what's what's the name so to the arm
the you mean
now he's bringing he wants to apply it
to a nimsho to what he's discussing here
what what would be the nimshu in this
case
the created worlds are like the subjects
to the king look inside he says it right
he says
the created worlds are subservient to
god
just as the subjects know that they have
a king
and they're subjected to the king
that's the nimsho the moral from the
marshal
avo who bitly
what level what what level yoni of
beetle of subservience is that
only only
obliteration of ego of self
lie by penis beethoven's you see here
so here on the line over here you see
the two words that brings
bitter yes and something called bitter
bermudsiyut
and that ebba says in that scenario of
the
question of the bit of the created
worlds to the to the
to the to the to the energy it's
not that it has complete obliteration
that the entity doesn't exist
that the idea doesn't exist no it's just
that the fact doesn't exist give me i
want to give you now
a muscle that i use outside of what it
says here i might be brought another my
muram
the king calls in the minister measures
the minister of art
schmooze the minister of accounting and
and the rest you guys are
transportation and everyone has a job
for the king
he calls us all in and he says
fellas you know you guys have been uh
really
uh fighting with each other because you
want more money for your department and
i understand
you need this transportation and
accounting and finance and
and art and culture and everyone wants
them you know
sounds familiar what's going on in the
knesset right anyway
they make up and so he says to them
you're all working for me and i am the
king
and i'm the boss and guess what i have
room for all of you so stop
bickering fighting amongst each other
and they all stand and they say yes your
honor
we will honor you and at the time
at the time they really mean it they
walk out of the door
and they're back to killing each other
and and bickering and fighting
why so siddha says
because they're bitter while they were
standing before the king was not a
bitter the macias it was only a bitter
big
it's not that they they rid themselves
of tr of tr of thinking i am
transportation
i am finance i am education no
everyone in front of the king still held
on to the
i what that that eyes associated with
and they never let go of the eye what
they let go of
is we're going to try to work it out in
a way that we can live together
that's yesh that's bitter yes so yes as
far as
they they they they'll try to work
together
but what happens when they leave the
room and the king is not there and they
don't feel the kingdom they don't see
the king
they revert back to their eye and each
one is different than the other one
transportation education
or finance because the mathias was never
bottled
why was the mathias why was the entity
the idea the notion
not not not subservient why didn't they
lose that
because the the realm of
a king of and his ministers
is such that the king endorses the
subjects
and the king wants the subjects and the
king wants
three different departments that's the
way this king set it up
so taking it back to our reminder when
we talk about
the lower level of of subservience of us
it's not just that in the results are
different the results begin
in the force in the mindset of the king
the mindset of the king determines what
will be later
before we go further did you follow my
muscle
yeah you sure
i don't want you to shake your head yeah
and and
this muscle was a muscle to to to
express the idea the difference between
bitter hayes and bitter and
number one and number two to show that
the
difference of the two types of bitter
which we i call the result
begins in in
in the in the one who sets the goal
sets the result
so in our case
hashem has two
modes simultaneous of operation
one perspective is i give the idea
existence it's a i and i've kind of
entrapped
myself into that because that's what i
want to do
the world needs and their reasons for it
so that's called that
is that what we would call practice
is an everything on i'm both
we're talking about the or the highest
what type of highest is it
is it a highest is it is it a highest of
god an
energy of god that lends itself
to existence and therefore existence
makes
an impact on it as he says the loss of
the mimer
hare oil
the created worlds take up room
in the godhead from this perspective
or do we say no
let's let's try another muscle another
muscle i like
i'm standing on fifth avenue 47th street
i'm 17 16 70 years old i'm putting on
i'm trying to put on film with eden
it's 1976-77 the rebbe says
go out so on friday when we had you know
some time not during the learning
we would go out and i was a young a
younger bachelor i would get onto a
mitzvah tank with the older buffering
and they went into manhattan they had
permission to park
thousands of people are walking and most
of them are jewish of course
and here is the open field to put on
film with eden
excuse me sir would you like to put on
film or are you jewish whatever we said
at the time
and one person looks at me and says
i can't i'd love to i can't because i
i'm rushing to a meeting
you know and he go and he goes further
i ask another person the same question
and what does he do
he doesn't even acknowledge me he just
walks further
which of these two pers people
are closer
to putting on filling the one who
totally ignores me
or the one who engages and says i can't
the guy that stopped the guy that
stopped
well yes and though
because the guy that stopped could be
he's being polite but he really ain't
interested in feeling
and the guy that didn't stop is scared
he's uncomfortable so he ignores
and if i could get that the one who
ignored
to stop he would put on phil and quicker
than the guy that smiled at me and
and i sit him down and he'll say that's
a bunch of nonsense
so what do i see from the muscle but
again i'm not saying it's always this
way but if we
if it is this way sometimes that we
think about it this way
in this in this scenario as a muscle
the elikus the godliness
that already gives a
a place for a world for created worlds
is already impacted even though it's
still you know a reflection in the
language of the mimer or nomination of
god
let's go back to the text anyway you
guys will think about it you have
shoppers to meditate
i've just given you so much food for
meditation with shabbos that you could
stay
down for three hours shabbos and you
still want to be finished
what don't we usually dive in three
hours in travis
how have i i don't mean just saying the
words of sitting your shoe while the
rabbi sermonizes
i mean diving with your talos over your
head going to two o'clock
and you tell your wife and you and your
guests that we start the miele too
because from twelve to two i'm dominique
that's what we mean hillary
you tell i don't mean you tell you have
such a wife that appreciates that you
come home two o'clock
because you've been the school diving
into hashem pouring out your heart
okay ah the kid that comes afterwards
to my great uncle that mental foot of us
would say like this
boils itself over into i'm sorry
learning when you learn like a gossip
it boils itself over it results in a
hasidic davening
and boils itself over in a hasidic of a
bring him
but you only if you go at 12 o'clock
right away for the booze in the church
it ain't a hasidic for brengan you have
to first learn to see this for a few
hours in the morning
and then you have to dive in for another
few hours and then you start for
bringing oh
then it's a different fabregan it's a
whole different
um attitude anyway
hallelujah we would do this hell of ai
this is why he didn't get shiva in the
good days
anyway don't worry what do you think
we'll see if we'll do what do you think
we see is going to come we're going to
play more golf when she
comes we're going to learn to see this
for several hours we're going to dub him
for several hours we're going to
meditate
and then we're going to prank and we're
going to have such wives children of
friends that will say
i want to be part of it let's go up
and he says
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from the perspective of faith the
government
and also from the perspective of
knowledge and comprehension
how to embattling the i know the key
those created beings
are subservient to the godly force
avoid
although they're subservient they still
are an entity
and all that they are the vatican
themselves all that they
give give up of themselves is just the
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here it's the force of god that
transcends the world's behind nobody
so i say me and next phase two will do
this
is referring to the other itself to the
infinite aspect of god
as god is savage called omen
the sham
is not only that the yesh is subservient
but the the the
the entity the notion the idea
is also nullified to god they could come
because all are nullified and like
nothing before god
what do we mean all not just all of yes
all of mathias all of entity and idea
is
they are before him
and they're considered killokame as
though they're not before him
we talk about the hashems
already is um
designated and defined by the the
subject
though illumination meaning he repeats
what he said before
the created worlds have an impact raksha
but only that they are subservient like
in the muscle that i gave you in front
of the king to say we'll make peace and
we won't fight with each other
moving there munna hubito it's
understood that emunah is
subservience humility bitter where moon
never based moderates
and having the faith in both expressions
of god of mammals
the beetle
if the elliot that transcends
the worlds the created beings
he says very nice but in general
peripheral it's in it it's it's makif
only brings the
thief on the threshold of the tunnel
he calls god god help me
break it and steal
how can that be only he's calling god
and he's asking god you you believe in
god you don't believe you know god
doesn't want you to steal
behind in this cools he believes in the
general way nearly close to who he is
that god sustains it gives by muscle to
all of his creatures
and he gives bread to allah
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what does he ask of god there should be
matzolia successful in his thievery big
name
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is distant it's not inside you it's
outside of you
i believe i believe i believe
you believe well show me that you
believe
and if you do something that's contrary
to god
you don't really believe you believe
externally superficially
but deep inside you don't believe
you can't and this is so important let
me just finish the paragraph
and he says
for if his faith would shine and
illuminate
in an inner way in an eternal way
how can he do contrary to god's will
to desecrate the words of god blessed be
he
and the answer is
because
it could be an oxymoron that can be
two opposites and this is the way life
is we believe we believe believe
you believe if you believe in something
you
act based on that belief and you do or
you don't do it depends on the situation
but if you say you believe and then you
do country
you don't really believe you're a munna
is makif
so the thief asks hashem
hashem i i need to survive i have a
family i need money i don't have it
i'm gonna rob and steal now i know that
you can make everything happen so i want
you i want you to do me a favor
please make sure no one catches me
so do you dismiss that or
do you say it's true so siddhis khabad
says
that both are true from the external
perspective
it's true both can coexist
from a premium perspective both cannot
coexist
yes so isn't there i don't know if it's
a gemara that i learned
going back 25 years but it talks about
basically it says that hashem will grant
his his request even though
even though it's against the torah
because every person
every person that asks will get
according to his word so no
it's so i forgot it took me 25 years ago
but i remember something
so no something like that i i i don't i
don't recall the rest of the gomorrah so
i can't tell you if it's the same gemara
but it's it sounds
it sounds like like that's it because i
mean this this
gamba nakari is brought into gomorrah
whether and it says retina
that language i don't recall
you know and uh we we're concluding now
but i'm saying it's um
this isn't you know we always try to
bring it home
you know it this is real life what we
just learned here
it's so real is our moon
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and and that is why you know see them i
saw i saw elders see them and and i
heard them and if i blame with them and
i ah not i i was there to be macabre
and this was a constant assessment that
they did
and the conclusion was always
if you heard a real husset not i'm not
there yet
i'm not there yet because
to to to really you know
live this way is like the bene
the benign of tanya and it's an avoider
constantly
but but but don't despair
delta is not saying this
to make us feel how distant we are from
being a bane in the
but how close we are right contrary to
my
pediatrician friend in california
who i was learning tanya with and after
12 broke him he stopped coming
and he said to him i asked him why he
said i'll never be obeying any so this
this study is a waste of time
and the answer is it's not that way
you won't be mr banany maybe
but in in for a moment
for a minute for a week for a day
there'll be times when you will express
benny-like attitudes if you
have come to that place in your life and
then you're a minute bane in the
yes jonasson
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listen you don't have yeah steal get a
letter from some
bunny get a driver
or drive and collect money and you don't
have money
so what are you trying to say that that
the rabbi gave you
i'm not following what's your point yeah
the point is
that i had the gospel but i could have
gone around stealing
but but i thought to have him in her
show
that there's another way of getting
money you get a letter from the lab
right you still drive and you go
there and you're just not ready let us
just
steal uh that that's for sure but
there's also a third way if you would
have asked this rabbi here
there's a third way make a kaylee you
know do something and
and and david will send the broker but
anyway
you know what i'm saying so hashem the
in the good days everyone listen
tonight
what's the famous taj mythnas
you gotta go in and if nikhnas
then you'll have simcha if you stand
like this as a spectator and a fabrengan
a spectator sport you ain't having
simcha
you're having yesh you're having
yourself
say in a moment
from our children and grandchildren that
we should have good health
real yiddish good health and davises
should take away this terrible
epidemic and gomarnu finished and we'll
all return to
our normal situation and even better yo
tertov
better and we'll dance at everyone's
simchas with only good health and
happiness
and nakas and we will continue with
hashem learning sunday morning
same time same channel have a great
shabbos bye-bye
thank you thank you thank you hold the
stuff to everybody