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Maamar Vata Titzave 1981 #17 - Why is the Rebbe the Nasi, leader of our generation? RC Dalfin
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Yeah, go ahead is sir. What is your
question or comment
>> say
>> loud
>> that that this
moshen
this like the Mosha of our generation
and then he he names his father-in-law
now he said this mime in 1981
his father-in-law passed away 1955
>> 1950 1950
>> 1950 so this is a good 31 years later
and then he distributed the mimemer 10
years later 10 years after that.
>> Uh 11 11 years later. Yeah.
>> How do we define our generation? Because
he said this mimemer over there were
people who were not even alive at the
time of the
so general question of when we say the
Moshe of our door. What's our door? How
do we define the gdarim of the door?
>> Okay, it's a very valid good question.
I'll I'll answer the question like aid
of the Reb and I'll answer the question
like of the previous rebi.
The Reb the Reb saw himself
outwardly. If you ask a person on the
street is not a lab. It's not a
when the said
the the the leader of generation, who
did he mean? He meant his father-in-law
because as far as he was concerned, he
was a what's called a mamal mockim. And
he said this many times, I'm step I'm
filling his place. I'm basically, you
know, the my father-in-law, the previous
Reb passed on. So he he needed and wants
someone to continue the work. So I
stepped in because wanted me to step in
and do the work. All I am is just a a um
in in the language of
baseball, a pinch hitter and a good
pinch hitter.
So throughout his 42 years of speaking
and if you you know from 1950 to 1992
when the Reb spoke about the the leader
of the generation in Hebrew do reu
he meant his father-in-law
that's if you're not a labure a cart
carrying labature of the Reb a of the
Reb the last you know from 199 1950 to
1992.
Is that part clear? Is sir is that
clear? Any questions and arguments on
that?
It goes
to to to drill down perhaps is it how do
we define our generation?
>> Okay. So it's not
>> generation because I was alive at the
time but there are people who were never
alive at that time
>> and the the answer right
>> generation
>> right the answer is it DOESN'T GO ON OUR
CLOCK it goes on the reb's clock
and then the rebba's clock the previous
rebba is the labba
and his generation continues whether you
agree whether you disagree whether it
makes sense That is a constant pattern
of 42 years in the Reb's talks. He was
consistent. He never changed from that.
So did I answer your question? Now
in other words, irrelevant. If if people
that were alive are not and are now not
alive like you're asking, it's
irrelevant. It goes by the the Reb was
the one who made the statement. No,
>> a hundred years could go by if if what
you're saying a hundred years could go
by and he would still be
>> That's right. That is exactly right.
Now before the previous Reb's
argument would be as far as the way I
understand the way I see it that the was
the
do you you understand? So it's not a 100
years. It's from when my father-in-law
became the leader of Kabadavich.
He becomes the nu for that time.
And that time doesn't finish just
because he passed on. So now you're
probably going to ask me if so why
doesn't the alterba who's the first why
doesn't he continue after he passes on?
Right? And the answer is be the answer
is because the rebba and the rabbim have
said that there's
six rebas and each have there six reb
there was a reb after the alterba the
mitlerba and he is the ni so a stronger
question there's a stronger question if
the reb was saying that the niu
my father is my father-in-law and I'm
aass of the rebu
is the rebay
>> right so that is why because of that
question and others
of the of the current rebba
they believe that the rebba that the reb
is the
real nidenu is the living reb
but he says Not.
>> HE SAYS HE SAYS NOT BECAUSE OF HUMILITY.
I mean
that that we find throughout and and
throughout the stories but even that
they they they humili they they they
humbled themselves and they never would
say I am the thing and this and there
are stories with with and I've told you
some but people who are alive today who
challenged the reb on this point are you
the labavba Elliot Laski 1973 January on
the steps of 770. He told me this
himself. Besides that, it's on a gem
video, but he told me this and he went
up to the Reb and he said, "Are you a
little Baba Rebba?" The Reb didn't
answer it. And then he was very upset.
He was a you know a hippie into rock and
roll and then he was appearance were
Holocaust survivors and he had questions
on God and you know and and then then he
said AGAIN WITH A STERN FACE WITH more
with voice being louder ARE YOU THE LAB
looking into the Reb's eyeballs
and the Reb you know f you know picked
his head up you know and said yes Yes.
Now that's the you probably you're
asking about
inabad
in theb's
and
are one and the same.
So that's the answer. That's the answer
for you know and and um I I would say
that probably most groups don't agree
with this.
That's all you know the bubba passes
away. I mean the whole concept of
nidorenu you do not find in any groups
as far as I know
it is unique to kabad lab
and I would say and I've written about
this I would say that it's even more
unique to the reb although the rashab
spoke a little bit about it and there
are yachts but the way the rebba took it
took it you know to to you know to to
the to the market he took it none of the
rebas before did it And this is one of
the tightness, one of the complaints
that especially
had on on the reb like you know we
coming up with this new concept the
princess the nim are finished I mean
until we have the bas mikdash we don't
have the princes bringing sacrifices all
of a sudden you're coming up with a
concept of a ni that was a major major
issue and I would say maybe was the most
the issue that that that touched and
made the disag agreement between certain
Rabonim and and Labavich was this but
the Reb didn't backtrack. This is the
way he felt about his father-in-law and
this the way he saw the world. So
the second point and which I said is
that that the Reb is the Nu
but he's not going to say that. So the
so you're quoting we're going to learn
right now the mimemer where it talks
about his father-in-law being denied
but it does answer your question that
irrelevant of people who are alive or
have passed on that's not part of the
equation is is that clear?
That's not part of the equation. In
other words, if you're coming at it a
generation is this amount of time and
some have passed. So how do you you know
that's not that's not where they're
coming from where the Reb is coming
from. He's talking about
>> it's not a literal not a literal
understanding of generation.
>> Correct. That's correct.
Okay.
Do you have anything to say on this
discussion?
>> No. No. I I it's it's it's tough to
understand but I tried to do it.
>> Yeah. Well, look,
these are things these and know when you
grow up in in in in in a certain culture
and you go to the yeshivas and you're
indoctrinated and so even later when you
you know your your mind expands,
you know, cuz I I I've thought about
these things for hours and days and
weeks and then I've written about it. it
it you know I I really understand where
you're coming from. I really do. This is
not the way you were raised. And when
I'm saying it's not the WAY AID was
raised, a kidic Jew in Poland was not
raised this way or in Hungary.
And I said EVEN FURTHER, EVEN A OF 150
YEARS AGO, I don't think was raised this
way.
But the Reb did raise us this way. And I
believe I understand why the world needs
this. AND AND WE SEE BESIDES KABAT
HOUSES, YOU KNOW, KABAT HOUSES and
outreach is is is is Hashem himself. I'M
NOT TALKING I'M TALKING ABOUT NOW THE
INNER CIRCLE, not the outer circle, you
know, us from yeden living in in a from
communities.
the the nidto reo concept
for nonreligious people who become
religious and you know or or not
religious yet and all of that they don't
have a problem with it they don't know
about the whole thing but as thiser
questioned
he does know he's he's in in the inner
circle so it's it's it's
this inner circle goes back many years
and I don't believe that it was really
this way
15 100 years ago 150 years ago but the
world today needs it the leadership uh
the the approach the style that the
rebba gave the world and I specifically
say that he gave the world not his
father-in-law his father-in-law came to
America he was a broken person when he
was in Poland he had challenges from
other Polish rebies and kasid before
that he was in Russia he had to deal
with Stalinism
So the reu of the previous rebba the 30
years that he was reba from 1920 to 1950
was limited outwardly
but the reba was a reb here in America
free society democratic society openness
and the refugees come refugees come and
the youth start coming back and he has
the soldiers to work with. He sees this
as a opportunity of
of expansion.
It would be a very interesting study to
write. Maybe one day I will but cuz I
it's a fascinating topic. You should
know touched upon. I I'm very passionate
about this topic. Yes, sir. very
passionate
to tr to to to to find within the human
logic says you know I hear it but you
know kind of I I don't it's hard to to
rationalize and and explain logically
and and that is something that I believe
can be done and you need a lot of
support uh and at the end of the day you
either believe it you either get it or
you don't get it you believe it or you
know you like it or you don't like it
but I see from my um 60 uh years 60 with
a plus with the Reb, I see how this has
made Kabad Labavich
what it is today. If the Reb would have
NOT TAKEN THIS APPROACH WHICH SOME WOULD
CALL WOULD be elitism and the Reb was
accused of elitism even though he was
such a humble person in his walk in his
dress in his speech and all that but
OUTWARDLY AN ELITISM WHO ARE YOU TO SAY
THAT YOUR FATHER-IN-LAW is the the
leader of the generation and if you mean
yourself you're even even you know like
a bigger bulga right so he's accused of
elitism he didn't care just like Rabbi
Salvich in his world of modern orthodoxy
in Yeshua University didn't care and he
stood up and he got criticized and be
and use a very heavy word now like
beheaded you know by the right-wing
orthodox kared world the rashivas the
literature they basically
cut him out you know that if you bring
in one of rabbik's
uh into a right-wing lit yeshiva they'll
they'll THROW IT OUT IF NOT BURN IT.
OKAY, today it's a little easier. But
the the sentiment that's gone on for 50,
60 years is he left a good to he's
modern. Blah blah blah blah blah. He
made all these 2,000 yu rabbis who are
all modern, you know. Well, the Reb
couldn't be accused of of that level of
modernity, but he was accused of being,
you know, elitist. He doesn't consider
anyone else. HE'S THE HIS FATHER-IN-LAW
IS THE LEADER OF GENERATION.
And you should know that I heard this
from the son of a kidic rebark.
One morning I was governing in in the
and we knew each other and agreed each
other and he and he and he lashed out at
me about who is the rep to say that the
the seven
are correspond to the seven
that we have during um
you know this and and and I saw anger in
his eyes and GUESS WHAT WHERE DID IT
COME FROM IT CAME FROM HIS FATHER AND I
KNEW HIS FATHER.
OKAY. And and and his grandfather was a
Polish rebby in Poland AND HE WAS TYPED
WITH THE PREVIOUS REBI BUT THE PREVIOUS
REBI NEVER DIDN'T speak that way. So it
was you know you put on the spadic you
looked like another kidic rebi you're in
Poland you're a subordinate you're not
king is g king is Alexander reb isidim
you're the l man of the too. SO OKAY
WE'LL PUT UP WITH YOU TOO. SO YOU'RE
ACCEPTED. COMES HERE BABA GOES WOW OPENS
UP EVERYTHING speaks for hours meets
millions of people his right like hey
where does this kid come from?
So the and the saw that this generation
needs that it definitely needs it to be
proud not only of the yiddishkite but of
their kite and also to reach out and to
share. So that was a calculated move and
a very smart move, a visionary move, an
iconic move that that is that still ver
reverberates today in in in in all parts
of the world. And I say again not just
in Kabad House for non-religious people
but also for religious people all over.
I'm convinced that for example when
Yeshiva University on night will have
lectures all night and over the last 10
15 20 years many times they have
lectures on mashiach I believe that's
clearly because of the clearly BUT
YOU'LL SAY WHY it's
the 13 PRINCIPLES OF FAITH THANK YOU
VERY much when salvation WAS ALIVE THERE
WERE 13 PRINCIPLES OF FAITH AND WHY YOU
DIDN'T HAVE THAT THOSE TYPE OF lectures
what changed the rabbis push
for Mashiach and Mashiach fever as as
you know if you want to use those words
made an impact on everyone. I remember
once in Los Angeles um
uh Yong Israel century city rabbi was a
wonderful person right
also a long a lecture
>> muskin
>> yeah yeah yeah muskin
>> good very good GUY
>> VERY GOOD GUY VERY SPECIAL person love
the man GOOD MAN LECTURE AT NIGHT amiach
a lit you know he comes from the again a
litfuck world not maybe right you know
heavy cord Litat but still in a young
Israel. It's young Israel. It's not THE
PANOVICH, NOT LAKEWOOD. BUT
NEVERTHELESS,
this is a result of the Reb's
you want to use the word fanaticism with
Mashiach passion passion with Msiah. It
spilled over and it's made a positive
impact on many things. If the Reb would
have been to tiptoeing is you know about
the Midoro and stuff things like that,
it wouldn't go anywhere. It wouldn't go
anywhere. he would be another one on the
map like anyone else. And you know, you
know, it sounds a little
elitist, you know,
but it's not the Reb had to take a
stand. If if HE WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH
WHAT HE SAW THE JEWISH world needs,
other rebasidic rebas don't they're not
concerned about the outside. They're
concerned about themselves. So there's
tremendous and tremendous help with with
the food in hospitals. tremendous
tremendous mishid
by the by especially the Hungarian
people around here is is tremendous and
in that in that area they're probably
not probably they're bigger than Kabad
but it's insular it's insular it's
insular you know when you come into a
regular sh here in borrow park or
Williamsburg and my all these maybe it's
inadmish if you look like a a religious
orthodox rightwing Jew, they'll give you
seduct. They'll give you more. You look
like someone who's from THE OUTSIDE.
I'VE NOTICED THIS. I'VE I TOOK THE TIME
TO OBSERVE THIS.
They're not giving you and not giving
you as much and not giving you as often.
Unfortunately,
right, our own, they focus on our own.
Kabat focuses on everyone else on the
outside. Now,
I know some of you had issues over the
years with certain Kabad rabbis and
situations. That's the individual.
That's the individual. If you talk to
the right, you'll see what I'm saying is
100% true. If you if you if you're
experiencing someone that has a big ego
or is not trained and even if he comes
from a kabat family, but his ego is, you
know, very large and he's not refined.
Sure, he's not going to, you know,
consider you as as as his own as his own
self, but by and large theim and theim
are this way because it comes from the
my piece of bread is yours, it's mine.
As we said, I want to finish this now.
So, please let's get to the text now on
page 413.
The simple meaning of
that is the one that should command the
Jewish people to bring oil to him who
it's that Moshe to should command the
Jews
they should bring the oil. In other
words, it took Moshe to make to
communicate the commandment
moving
says this explains also the inner
dynamics over here.
The fact that commands and binds the Jew
with the Jewish people who in such a
manner and style
our teacher gives us the Jew the yeet
and the Jews the ability and THE POWER
TO BE ABLE TO BRING HIM THE OIL.
In other words, if not for
being the one to command instead of
Hashem, you know, command
the emphasis on the word the and you
which is unique in the Torah and it's
this right here. The Reb says the reason
for that is so that the bringing of the
oil, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING THE
OIL. OTHERWISE, WE WOULDN'T bring the
right oil. We wouldn't bring ourselves
in the oil and on and on.
This is what Isa was I believe alluding
to before speaking about that says in
with with
the greatest
uh clarity and so too is regarding the
Moshe of our generation.
My saintly father-in-law referring to
the previous
Right? That's a term that that as I said
that the Reb really coined and used and
it's become part of the lexicon.
Today many people when they write to
theb to the right for
they write
okay and they write it that way because
the reb writes it that way and they
emulate what the rebb did whether it's
right way not the right way that's
already a feeling if you feel he's neno
if you don't feel he's neno and you
write that
you know whatever you know so I'm not
please don't I'm not saying
sometimes we're do we do something like
this and it helps us brings us closer
but again this is not uh a mandate that
you must write to the rebu I want to
make that very clear you know when when
uh
there were few of the rebab
who didn't write to the Rebi in the
early 1950s when he became reb. So the
Reb writes to one or two of them. The
Reb writes, "If you didn't if you're not
writing me a letter because you have a
problem, the way to address me, it's not
a problem. You you can you don't have
you can address me any way you want. I'm
not insulted,
but I want you to communicate." So we
can, you know, we can communicate as you
know, you come from a different a
different time, a different place. you
saw the rebab,
right? So, I would like to hear and by
you not communicating because how you
going TO WRITE THE TITLE to me, you
know, you know, let's cut it out and and
and the Reb was that way. And I know
this because and who were really his,
you know, they were THE SAME WAY. CUT
OUT the the nonsense, you know, title,
not title. Like, get over it. Let's go
on.
And it's an important point because
there are people who tell you otherwise.
And and I just want to make it clear
that uh that's they're pushing their own
horn because you know I sat with and
heard from that were plugged in and I
heard this for them. So anyone that says
you MUST WRITE IT THIS WAY, YOU MUST
write no you must write what you feel in
your heart.
Okay?
If you want to write
or another title that will help you come
to that place that's your decision.
Let's go on. So he says
my father-in-law's job is that his
service
was to arouse and to reveal the faith
that's that every Jew has. He was there
to help arouse and reveal
YOUR FAITH THAT YOU HAVE.
I say that these words is the last will
and testament to the Reb. What is the
job of he says the previous rabb to
arouse the the Jew
to serve Hashem?
I want you to look at those words means
with your own ability.
This is the last mimema the Reb gave
before he had his stroke or he didn't
speak anymore. So what's the and the
last paragraph mish the last paragraph
of the discourse and what's the message?
We have to do it on our own and NOT
DEPEND ON ANYONE INCLUDING ON THE REB.
So look at this interesting kind of
oxymoron. On one hand, manasha, he's in
a rau. He's calling his father-in-law
the leader generation. And at THE SAME
TIME, HE SAYS, "DON'T USE THAT AS AN
EXCUSE NOT TO DO IT YOURSELF. GET OFF
YOUR LOINS AND DO IT YOURSELF. You need
a bra, you go to the
you need advice, you can go to the
somehow, right? But at the end of the
day,
is about
there. no one can do it for you. And
that was another another difference
between the Polish Hungarian Rebbas and
Kabad when it came to Polish Hungarian
Rebba.
They would give you a braha and and and
you know um it's like they have the
amikim
you didn't necessarily work on your own
to that level of but that you didn't
have to
the famous of
the with his will enliven you. You don't
need that level of amuna. The sadic has
that level and by you attaching yourself
to the sadic that's good enough says nob
says no
means that the sadic shows you how you
are to use your and and elevate yourself
and if you don't do it it's NOT GOING TO
HELP THAT you're attached to me
and the rebba said this in the first m
bosani 1951 he said, "Fellas,
don't convince yourself and think in his
language." He said
in English, there's no equivalent that I
know of. That's a good one. Don't
convince yourself birds in your bosom,
which means uh kind of STOP FANTASIZING
AND WISHFUL thinking that I'm going to
do it for you. I'm not going to do it
for you. I will help you do it. I will
instruct you and help you and guide you
but at the end you have to do it. So all
this is alluded to in the words. Let's
continue.
Your work and and your your effort will
be such that you will you will reach a
constant light a constant candle
which is so constant that the idea of
change isn't applicable to it.
Not only from the soul and perspective
and the faith perspective but also the
mind perspective that your mind and your
heart will resonate with this ine
through this we merit very speedily
the true redemption
page 415 then when Msiah will come
there'll be godly revelation from also
from our perspective which we call below
m
the
hashmen and then we will actually bring
the oil vloas and in light and ignite
the the candles in the tabernacle in the
mikdash and the beta mikdash in the holy
temple which is alluded to in the words
this won't be any just
is a physical one.
This will be done in the third temple
third.
These were classical of the Reb's words
and many fabans and etc with the
ultimate true and complete redemption
the righteous Messiah because of Mameish
very speedily in our day.
That is it. We will continue mashem
tomorrow.
>> Yes.
>> One word. One word. Wow. Wow.
>> Heavy. Yeah. Good stuff.
>> Very very very Yes.
>> NOW, NOW, NOW, NOW YI, you know what?
Alabatur, YOU KNOW WHAT THE REB SAYS IS
>> DON'T DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WHAT YOU
SEE in here.
you know this is this is the script this
what we just learned today and what I
explained is the script so and that's it
that's it you know people you know go
off on tangents and it's not just about
the mashiaism and it's not just about
the pushing in 770 is all this stuff is
man-made manmade
and men are fallible
a rebadic
is you know lives godliness
is not God
and sadik whoever the rebba is that is
the truth so if YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT
the the basidas at the end of the day
you have to look at the bbas
they are what we call the holy people
and they establish now AGAIN IF A PERSON
SAYS IT'S NOT FOR ME or I don't want TO
GO THAT THERE NO problem but
>> you know but But but in labage in kabad
this is you know more of an issue
breast live but kabadat probably even
more than breast live because it's so
much larger in a way you know whatever
and and EVERYONE GOES OFF AND DOES THEIR
you know you know especially you know 31
years after gimmel tamas we're soon
coming up to gimlas a month from today
gimmel seven today a month FROM TODAY IS
GIMMEL TAMAS THE REB'S YARD SITE
RIGHT. So every everyone you know is
like you know uh positioning you know do
this and do that try this try that. So I
understand those efforts but but if you
want to really you know what is the
Rebba's
opinion you have to look into his far
his
that's where you find the Reb Rabiel
once said
that during the lifetime of the Reb if
you wanted TO KNOW HIS PUBLIC OPINION it
was at the Fabrans but he said in his
room to private people that's private
but the if you WANT TO KNOW HIS PUBLIC
STANCE LISTEN TO THE fabra cuz then he
spoke for everybody in public. Yes, sir.
I see something is on your mind. I could
see it in your forehead.
I was just I was looking up in in one of
my uh breast of sedurim. They they have
they have a text that they uh that they
say before uh you know specific mitzvah
or things that they do which um it uh
it's not quite
but they they say they attach them uh
attach themselves to all the sadikim of
Who's the foundation of the world?
or who is the source of they're a so
they also have this kind of uh
>> yes
>> I want to say mantra
he but it's a a statement of uh he of
attachment
>> yes yes I I I that's why I said you know
breast is also in that in that mode um
although
Again because breastliff between Rebn
and today
there were no breast of a reb was a man.
You don't have the writings
to to look at in kabad. You have 200
years of thousands of of writings and
then hundreds of swarim. I mean on in
other words if imagine a scholar a
scholar who's going to write a thesis on
on this topic the right way to do it
tell me if I'm wrong you know you're
more educated uh in western society and
education
you got you have to look into the books
what do the of what those people wrote
with breastlive you have basically just
you know rebnen communicating
It's limited. I I I I believe it's
limited. It's kaval, but it's limited.
You you don't need to listen to Rabbi
Dolphin or Khan. They got this forum
FROM THE AND LOOK HOW theic deals with
the mitzvah of oris or
and you're you'll see that the the um
logic the rationale and the aftermath of
a of a culture living that way is like
today. But again, the samatic lived in
in white Russia at a certain time during
the zar on and on and on. So the
language and and particular style is is
not what what he what we do today. But
the is so deep the foundational point is
the same. Al all I'm saying is that it
when you read to me that of of of Rabb
Nosen of uh you know breastliff that
didn't come from Nakman
didn't write it about himself I don't
think am I right I don't believe so I
believe that was either written by
>> somewhere he does refer to himself
somewhere um and and it's been a while
since I've opened my burst of books but
he does refer to himself as in in a
unique manner.
>> Yes. Yes. That that that I'm aware of.
That I'm aware of. But
>> that my fire will burn until the coming
of Messiah. And
>> yeah. Yeah. Anyway,
there are I wrote a book Kabad and
Breastlift. There are definitely some
similarities, but then there definitely
some very big differences.
But th this what we learn now Yi
should give us the the knowledge and
tools to understand that not everything
that you see is the way IT'S NOT IT'S
NOT NECESSARILY THE WAY IT SHOULD THE
WAY IT IS that it doesn't mean it's bad
just it's different okay
that that that's all you know if the Reb
says
and there's lababer who just relies on
on the reb and doesn't work on on his
own. He's not doing what the Rebel left
in the last m in the last paragraph as a
last little testament.
Okay,
bring tomorrow.
Have everyone a great day. Byebye. Take
care.